The latest on the Trump impeachment inquiry

By Meg Wagner, Mike Hayes, Veronica Rocha and Lauren Said-Moorhouse, CNN

Updated 10:29 p.m. ET, November 6, 2019
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4:42 p.m. ET, November 6, 2019

Taylor over time understood "investigations" meant into Bidens and DNC hacks

From CNN's Marshall Cohen 


Diplomat Bill Taylor said that he understood by early July that when President Trump appointees were talking about Ukraine launching “investigations” that they were talking about the desired probes into former Vice President Joe Biden and into conspiracy theories about the Democratic email hacks in 2016.  

“I’m beginning to understand that there — that the investigations, again I’m not sure if there’s a crystal time, a specific time, but I’m beginning to understand that these investigations of Burisma and the 2016 elections are what the term ‘investigations’ refer to,” Taylor said. 

A key sticking point in the inquiry is what was meant by “investigations.”

Some of Trump’s defenders have leaned into the vagueness of this term, and Trump has said all he cares about is ending corruption in Ukraine. But testimony from Taylor and other witnesses suggests that it was widely understood that the “investigations” were tantamount to political meddling by Ukraine. 

4:26 p.m. ET, November 6, 2019

Taylor testified he didn't feel the same pressure as Yovanovitch

From CNN's Mike Warren 

Ukraine diplomat Bill Taylor testified that he was never made to feel out of line after his pushback against the Ukraine policy being pursued by Rudy Giuliani and the administration’s “three amigos.”

Citing the pressure placed on his predecessor Marie Yovanovitch by Giuliani and others, Democratic Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi asked Taylor if he was aware of “any attempts by Giuliani or anyone else” to “come back at him” after he had texted his concerns to Gordon Sondland and Kurt Volker. Taylor said “no.”

“Did anybody ever question you directly about your statements and whether you were somehow out of line in making the statements that you made?" Krishnamoorthi asked Taylor. 

“Not yet,” Taylor said.


4:13 p.m. ET, November 6, 2019

Taylor adds new details on Trump-Ukraine quid pro quo

From CNN's Marshall Cohen 

Top diplomat to Ukraine Bill Taylor gave lawmakers new information about how Trump officials pressed Ukraine to launch politically charged investigations that could help the President's re-election.  

Taylor described a call with US Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland on June 27 where they discussed the upcoming phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. 

Taylor testified that Sondland told him that “President Zelensky, needed to make clear to President Trump that he, President Zelensky, was not standing in the way of investigations.” 

Asked for specifics, Taylor said he didn’t know at the time exactly which investigations Sondland was referring to, but that he knew they were related to the probes that Rudy Giuliani was seeking.

4:17 p.m. ET, November 6, 2019

Taylor said Trump held up Ukraine aid for "domestic political gain" to cast Biden in "bad light"

From CNN's Maegan Vazquez 

Top US diplomat in Ukraine Bill Taylor clarified to members of Congress that in his opening statement, when he was referring to the administration holding up Ukraine aid for “domestic political gain” or a “political campaign,” he was specifically referring to President Trump casting former Vice President Joe Biden “in a bad light.” 

In his opening testimony, Taylor said he “told Ambassadors Sondland and Volker … ‘I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign.’” 

“I argued to both that the explanation made no sense: the Ukrainians did not ‘owe’ President Trump anything, and holding up security assistance for domestic political gain was ‘crazy,” he continued in his opening remarks. 

Taylor was asked specifically what he was referring to by New York Democratic Rep. Sean Maloney.

“As I understood the reason for investigating Burisma was to cast Vice President Biden in a bad light,” Taylor told members of Congress during the question and answer period. 

The political campaign to gain from the investigation, he said, was “a political campaign for the reelection of President Trump.” 

4:09 p.m. ET, November 6, 2019

This Republican senator objected to an unanimous resolution on whistleblower protections today

From CNN's Ali Zaslav and Ted Barrett 

Tasos Katopodis/Getty Images
Tasos Katopodis/Getty Images

Days after Republican Sen. Rand Paul called the for the Ukraine whistleblower’s identity to be made public, Senate Democrats attempted to pass an unanimous resolution to recognize the role of Congress and the Executive Branch to protect whistleblowers today. 

Paul objected saying he wanted the Senate to pass his own bill that would apply whistleblower protections to Edward Snowden and allow President Trump to face his accuser. 

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said GOP calls to name the whistleblower are “wrong” and “dangerous” and outing them would send a “chilling message to future patriots.” He urged the Senate to pass this resolution to reaffirm a longstanding tradition to protect whistleblowers. These are laws that have existed “since the founding of our republic,” Schumer added.

After Sen. Mazie Hirono, a Democrat of Hawaii, asked for unanimous consent, Paul objected. He then introduced his own bill, The Whistleblower Protection Act of 2019, which he said would provide retroactive protections for whistleblowers that could then be applied to defend Snowden, for example, and would ensure the president can have a right to address his accuser.

Paul said he isn’t objecting because he doesn’t support whistleblowers, but the system should be refined.

Hirono added in response that Paul is undermining whistleblower protections, which makes even just the name of his bill, The Whistleblower Protection Act, “appalling” and “laughable.” 

5:39 p.m. ET, November 6, 2019

House has withdrawn its subpoena of Charles Kupperman, according to court filing

From CNN's Katelyn Polantz

In a sign that Democrats don't want a prolonged battle for witnesses in their impeachment probe, the House of Representatives says it is retracting the subpoena for former deputy national security adviser Charles Kupperman.

"The subpoena at issue in this matter has been withdrawn and there is no current intention to reissue it," the House wrote in court documents about Kupperman's testimony this afternoon.

The House instead suggested Kupperman should abide by what is decided in a separate case that is further along, its lawsuit against Don McGahn to force the former White House counsel to testify.

The House told Kupperman's attorney yesterday it still would be interested in speaking with him in the impeachment inquiry, and that he should sit for a deposition if another federal judge knocks down the White House's blocking tactic in McGahn's case. McGahn was subpoenaed in April to discuss the President's attempts to obstruct the Russia investigation.

McGahn's case is "much closer to resolution by the court than Dr. Kupperman's flawed suit," the House wrote to Kupperman's attorneys yesterday. "Unless your lawsuit was admittedly only for purposes of delay, and without a subpoena in force, the Committees expect that your client will voluntarily dismiss the complaint ... and be guided by the decision in McGahn."

CLARIFICATION: This post has been updated to clarify that the House of Representatives is retracting its subpoena of Kupperman but still may want to question him.

3:51 p.m. ET, November 6, 2019

Taylor squarely blames Ukraine controversy on Giuliani and Trump

From CNN's Maegan Vazquez

Top US diplomat in Ukraine Bill Taylor said in newly released congressional testimony that he believes the idea of the US pressing Ukraine to investigate Burisma and 2016 came from Rudy Giuliani, who was representing the interests of President Donald Trump. 

Taylor confirmed New Jersey Democrat Tom Malinowski’s description of two Trump administration camps diverging on the Ukraine issue — those who wanted to go along with the President’s call for Ukraine to investigate and those who would not compromise their principles. 

“You (all) wanted a good relationship between the two countries. And then at a certain point, you all learned that the President was in a different place, correct?” Malinowski asked. 

“Yes,” Taylor responded. 

Taylor also agreed with the assessment that the officials were divided into two camps. 

“It is (a fair assessment), Congressman. And it was motivated, but as you said, toward a strong relationship. It was just different — they thought they had to take a different route through Giuliani to get there,” Taylor said. 

Asked if Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland was responsible for what White House national security adviser John Bolton referred to as the “drug deal” — essentially withholding Ukraine aid in exchange for the requested investigations — Taylor pointed to Giuliani as a proxy for Trump. 

“I don’t think so,” Taylor said, referring to the question of whether Sondland was responsible.

“I think the origin of the idea to get President Zelensky to say out loud he’s going to investigate Burisma and the 2016 election, I think the originator, the person who came up with that was Mr. Giuliani,” he continued.

“And he was representing whose interests in —" Malinowski asked.

“President Trump,” Taylor responded.

3:23 p.m. ET, November 6, 2019

David Hale left Capitol Hill after more than six hours of testimony

From CNN's Manu Raju 

David Hale, a high-ranking State Department official, has wrapped up more than six hours of closed door testimony before the impeachment committees. 

Hale is the third highest ranking official at the State Department and the highest ranking career State Department official.  

Three other officials were scheduled to testify but are not expected to show up.

3:25 p.m. ET, November 6, 2019

Taylor: Giuliani wanted Ukraine to meddle in US election

From CNN's Marshall Cohen 

Bill Taylor, the top US Diplomat to Ukraine, leaves Capitol Hill on Oct. 22 in Washington, DC.
Bill Taylor, the top US Diplomat to Ukraine, leaves Capitol Hill on Oct. 22 in Washington, DC. Alex Wroblewski/Getty Images

Bill Taylor, the top diplomat to Ukraine, said President Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani was pressing Ukraine “to intervene in US domestic policy or politics” by launching investigations into Trump’s political rivals, according to the transcript. 

This testimony corroborates a major allegation from the whistleblower complaint, that Giuliani and Trump were trying to solicit help from the Ukrainians to boost his re-election chances in 2020. Giuliani wanted Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and Democratic National Committee servers. 

Taylor said he saw the requests as so dangerous that he believed Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky should ignore them — even if it meant losing a one-on-one meeting with Trump. 

“If President Zelensky, in order to get that meeting (with Trump), were going to have to intervene in U.S. domestic policy or politics… by announcing an investigation on that would benefit someone in the United States, then it’s not — it wasn't clear to me that that would be worth it,” Taylor said. 

In his testimony, Taylor said it would be unacceptable for a foreign country to meddle in the US election. Other witnesses have also condemned any effort to solicit electoral help from Ukraine.