Four key impeachment witnesses testify

By Veronica Rocha, Meg Wagner and Amanda Wills, CNN

Updated 8:44 p.m. ET, November 19, 2019
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4:21 p.m. ET, November 19, 2019

Volker: Giuliani raised "conspiracy theories" about Biden

From CNN's Marshall Cohen

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Kurt Volker, the former special envoy to Ukraine, said the allegations that Joe Biden acted corruptly with Ukraine while he was vice president are a “conspiracy theory.”

President Trump, Giuliani and House Republicans have repeatedly made this claim.

“At the one in-person meeting I had with Mayor Giuliani on July 19, Mayor Giuliani raised, and I rejected, the conspiracy theory that Vice President Biden would have been influenced in his duties as Vice President by money paid to his son,” Volker said. “As I testified previously, I have known Vice President Biden for 24 years. He is an honorable man and I hold him in the highest regard.”

Why this matters: This means Volker is breaking from Trump on at least one key point. Even though Trump appointed Volker to the Ukraine post, Volker doesn’t agree with Trump that Biden is guilty of wrongdoing in Ukraine.

4:23 p.m. ET, November 19, 2019

The Democrats' round of questions just started


House Intelligence Chair Adam Schiff has 45 minutes to ask Tim Morrison and Kurt Volker questions.

He can let the Democrats' lawyer, Daniel Goldman, ask questions instead.

Afterward, ranking member Devin Nunes — and the GOP lawyer, Steve Castor — will get 45 minutes of questioning time.

Following those two rounds, each member on the committee will get five minutes to ask questions.

4:10 p.m. ET, November 19, 2019

Volker: Allegations that Joe Biden acted inappropriately "did not seem at all credible to me"

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Drew Angerer/Getty Images

In his opening statement, former US special envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker went through a series of allegations about former Vice President Joe Biden that he said did not appear credible.

He said Rudy Giuliani had mentioned the allegations during a meeting and that Giuliani had "stressed that all he wanted to see was for Ukraine to investigate what happened in the past and apply its own laws."

Volker went on to say that he told Giuliani that he didn't think Biden would have been influenced in any way by financial or personal motives in carrying out his duties as vice president. 

"A different issue is whether some individual Ukrainians may have attempted to influence the 2016 election or thought they would buy influence. That is at least plausible given Ukraine's reputation for corruption. But the accusation that vice president Biden acted inappropriately did not seem at all credible to me," Volker said.
4:12 p.m. ET, November 19, 2019

Ukraine's lawmakers were "making television shows" in 2016, not interfering with the US election, Volker says

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Susan Walsh/AP

Former US special envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker said the lawmakers currently governing Ukraine had nothing to do with allegations of 2016 election interference, because "they were making television shows at the time."

Volker mentioned that Rudy Giuliani had said he wanted Ukraine to investigate allegations of interference in the 2016 election.

"Concerning the allegations, I stressed that no one in the new team governing Ukraine had anything to do with anything that may have happened in 2016. They were making television shows at the time," Volker said.

What this is about: Before he was elected president, Volodymyr Zelensky was a comedian, actor and businessman.

Prior to his bid for the presidency, Zelensky was best known for his role in the Ukrainian comedy series, "Servant of the People," where he played a destitute schoolteacher who unexpectedly becomes president of Ukraine after becoming famous for an anti-corruption rant that went viral on social media. In real life, his entertainment empire is estimated to be worth tens of millions.

4:07 p.m. ET, November 19, 2019

Inconsistencies emerge between Volker's private testimony and opening statement

From CNN's Kevin Liptak

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Susan Walsh/AP

Kurt Volker, the onetime special US envoy to Ukraine, will testify Tuesday that he heard a fellow US diplomat raise investigations during a July 10 meeting at the White House.

That’s inconsistent with what Volker testified behind closed doors. He answered “no” when questioned whether investigations were raised during that meeting, which included Gordon Sondland, the American ambassador to the EU, and other American and Ukrainian officials.

It’s one of the areas Volker is changing his earlier account of events that are being investigated by lawmakers in the impeachment inquiry.

In another, Volker said he was out of the loop when he testified that discussions about a statement from the Ukrainians about opening investigations into the Bidens ended in August.

Volker says he was “surprised” to learn there were further discussions after he thought the issue was put to rest.

“Since these events, and since I gave my testimony on October 3, a great deal of additional information and perspectives have come to light,” Volker said. “I have learned many things that I did not know at the time of the events in question.”

Democrats are likely to hone in on the inconsistencies when the questioning begins. 

Volker was the first witness to testify in the closed depositions, and subsequent witnesses have provided plenty of additional information that fleshes out — and, at times, contradicts — Volker’s remembrance of events.

Republicans requested Volker’s appearance on Tuesday, and hope he can help their case that Trump did nothing wrong. But the additional information he says he’s learned could make him less attractive to their case. 

4:05 p.m. ET, November 19, 2019

Volker: Trump had a "deeply rooted negative view" of Ukraine due to Giuliani

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Andrew Caballero-Reynolds/AFP/Getty Images

In his opening statement, former US special envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker said that he and others stressed their finding that new Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky represented the "best chance" to get the country "out of the mire of corruption" that has plagued the country for decades.

They also urged Trump to invite Zelensky to White House.

"The President was very skeptical. Given Ukraine's history of corruption, that is understandable," Volker said. "He said that Ukraine was a corrupt country, full of terrible people. He said they tried to take me down."

Volker said during that conversation Trump referenced conversations with his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani. 

"It was clear to me that despite the positive news and recommendations being conveyed by this official delegation about the new president, President Trump had a deeply rooted negative view on Ukraine rooted in the past," Volker said.

3:57 p.m. ET, November 19, 2019

Volker: I should have seen the Burisma investigation request "differently"


Former US special envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker will testify that he originally did not see an investigation into Ukrainian company Burisma as "equivalent to investigating former Vice President Biden," according to a copy of his prepared remarks.

"In hindsight, I now understand that others saw the idea of investigating possible corruption involving the Ukrainian company, 'Burisma,' as equivalent to investigating former Vice President Biden. I saw them as very different — the former being appropriate and unremarkable, the latter being unacceptable," he will say.

"In retrospect, I should have seen that connection differently, and had I done so, I would have raised my own objections," he will say.

3:59 p.m. ET, November 19, 2019

Morrison seems to warn GOP he won't trash Vindman

From CNN's Kevin Liptak

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Susan Walsh/AP

Republicans and the official White House Twitter account have already used Tim Morrison's words to undercut Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, but in his opening statement Morrison seemed to warn he wouldn't be party to those efforts.

"I have great respect for my former colleagues from the NSC and the rest of the interagency. I am not here today to question their character or integrity. My recollections and judgments are my own," he said.

Why this is notable: Republicans have appeared intent on using Morrison's private deposition to fuel questions about Vindman. Morrison testified he had questions about Vindman's judgement — though he also said Vindman was a hero who literally bled for the US in his military service.

4:09 p.m. ET, November 19, 2019

Why Morrison just said his "fears have been realized"


Tim Morrison, a former National Security Council aide, said he feared how the disclosure of the July 25 call between President Trump and the Ukrainian president would play out in Washington's climate.

"My fears have been realized. I understand the gravity of these proceedings but beg you not to lose sighted of the military conflict underway in eastern Ukraine today," he said.

Morrison went on to say that he left the NSC on his own, and felt no pressure to resign.