(CNN)Before classes had even begun, a judge stood in front of Justin's law school class to tell them about the parts of their life that would be examined to determine if they were qualified to become lawyers. Along with questions about speeding tickets, academic history, and violations of law, he told them, prospective lawyers would need to open up about their mental health, including any diagnosed conditions.
Law students say they don't get mental health treatment for fear it will keep them from becoming lawyers. Some states are trying to change that
Justin, the first person in his family to attend college, had always dreamed of going to law school and becoming a public defender.
So when law school stress ran high and support was low, he remembered the judge's words and decided that seeking out mental health resources wasn't worth the risk to his dream.
"I want to do everything I can to limit my exposure," said Justin, who did not want to use his last name to protect his chance of bar admission.
He is not alone.
For decades, nearly every state has required law students to answer questions about their mental health treatment as part of the requirements before they can practice law. As a result of the practice, according to one study, 45% of law students said they
would be discouraged from seeking mental health treatment for fear that it would negatively affect bar admission.
A wave of support has been building to remove questions about mental health from what's known as the character and fitness reviews of bar applicants. Several states, including Washington and Louisiana, have already done away with them. And now New York is deciding whether it will, too.
"[Students] should absolutely get the help they need and not worry about being asked a question that they have to answer and then reveal their medical history," said New York State Bar President Hank Greenberg. "We don't do that with any other physiological condition, and that we still do that for mental health is no longer acceptable in 2020."
A New York court is weighing whether to drop the question from the state's bar application after a working group within the New York State Bar Association issued a report in August calling for the removal of any questions about "mental history, diagnoses, or treatment."
Such questions are "unnecessary and ineffective in identifying applicants who are unfit and are likely to deter individuals from seeking mental health counseling and treatment," the report said.
"These kinds of questions are counterproductive to the goal of ensuring fitness to practice; unnecessarily invade applicants' privacy; and impermissibly tend to screen out persons with disabilities based on stereotypes and assumptions about their disabilities, rather than focusing on their conduct or behavior that impairs their ability to practice law in a competent, ethical, and professional manner."
The questions are a relic of a past time, Greenberg said, adding that treatment for mental health conditions should be regarded like any other physiological condition.
"Tragically there are people that don't recognize it as a physiological condition that can be treated, but somehow view it some form of weakness," Greenberg said.
Deans of 14 of New York's 15 law school have written to the Chief Justice of the New York Supreme Court in support of the removal. The 15th recused herself because of former involvement as a judge, Greenberg said.
Greenberg said removing the question would "go an enormous way" toward eliminating the "institutional stigma" that accompanies it.
The question about mental health comes after law school graduation as part of a long questionnaire and an interview to determine a prospective lawyer's character and fitness to represent clients. Changes to the questionnaire are approved by the highest court of the state and can be proposed by the state legislature.
The current New York bar exam questionnaire asks applicants if they have any "mental, emotional, psychiatric, nervous or behavioral disorder or condition" that might impair or limit their ability to practice law.
Currently 38 other states also have questions regarding mental health on their character and fitness evaluations, according to the latest data from the American Bar Association Commission on Disability Rights.
Historically, states have said that questions about mental health are necessary to identify applicants who could pose a future problem. Colorado, a state that includes a question on mental health, argues that a significant number of attorneys who have received ethical complaints are suffering from mental health conditions or substance abuse.
But critics say the question only dissuades students from seeking help when they need it most.
"Suffering in Silence," a survey of 3,300 law students published in 2016 in the Journal of Legal Education, found that 45% of respondents believed seeking help would threaten their ability to be admitted to the bar and 63% said threats to the bar exam would deter them from seeking help for substance abuse.
The study surveyed students at 15 law schools and was administered with grant funding from the American Bar Association Enterprise Fund.
There is no comprehensive data to suggest that students are denied entry to the bar because they sought help; but David Jaffe, a co-author of the study, says it is perception that matters more than the reality.
"Perception is everything. We can do our best and we try to do our best to say to students 'look, the smartest thing you can do is to get help," said Jaffe, the associate dean of student affairs at the American University Washington College of Law.
"If students even have that belief or perception that raising the specter at all is going to be problematic, they are just going to dive down. They're not going to even entertain or explore it."
That's what Justin did.
He didn't seek help although the first year of law school brought anxiety, as he faced a world where classes consisted of stomach-churning "cold calls," grades came largely from the final exam, and students were weighted against their peers, giving a feeling that you couldn't go to classmates for support because if you do better, they do worse.
"Finals stress gets to the point where you feel like you can't even move," he said.
To relieve that stress, students on his campus got together for a weekly "bar review," where they gathered with the intention of getting drunk.
Now advocates for mental health in law are pushing for change.
They have been met with some success.
Connecticut removed mental health questions from its bar application last year.
The change "signifies a shift in our understanding of mental health and wellness, and will help further reduce the stigma," said Karen DeMeola, assistant dean of the University of Connecticut School of Law. "Students can now focus on academics and not constantly worry about their efforts being futile given their diagnosis."
In Louisiana, the question was eliminated after the Department of