B. Evidence That Contradicts the President's Civil Deposition
Testimony
Vernon Jordan testified that his conversations with the
President about Ms. Lewinsky's subpoena were, in fact, "a
continuing dialogue."(374) When asked if he had kept the President
informed about Ms. Lewinsky's status in the Jones case in
addition to her job search, Mr. Jordan responded: "The two --
absolutely."(375)
On December 19, Ms. Lewinsky phoned Mr. Jordan and told him
that she had been subpoenaed in the Jones case.(376) Following that
call, Mr. Jordan telephoned the President to inform him "that
Monica Lewinsky was coming to see me, and that she had a
subpoena"(377) -- but the President was unavailable.(378) Later that
day, at 5:01 p.m., Mr. Jordan had a seven-minute telephone
conversation with the President:(379)
I said to the President, "Monica Lewinsky called me up.
She's upset. She's gotten a subpoena. She is coming
to see me about this subpoena. I'm confident that she
needs a lawyer, and I will try to get her a lawyer."(380)
Later on December 19, after meeting with Ms. Lewinsky,
Mr. Jordan went to the White House and met with the President
alone in the Residence.(381) Mr. Jordan testified: "I told him that
Monica Lewinsky had been subpoenaed, came to me with a
subpoena."(382) According to Mr. Jordan, the President "thanked me
for my efforts to get her a job and thanked me for getting her a
lawyer."(383)
According to Mr. Jordan, on January 7, 1998, Ms. Lewinsky
showed him a copy of her signed affidavit denying any sexual
relationship with the President.(384) He testified that he told the
President about the affidavit, probably in one of his two logged
calls to the White House that day:(385)
Q: [W]alk us through what exactly you would have said
on the portion of the conversation that related to
Ms. Lewinsky and the affidavit.
VJ: Monica Lewinsky signed the affidavit.
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Q: [L]et's say if it was January 7th, or whenever it
was that you informed him that she signed the
affidavit,(386) is it accurate that based on the
conversations you had with him already, you didn't
have to explain to him what the affidavit was?
VJ: I think that's a reasonable assumption.
Q: So that it would have made sense that you would
have just said, "She signed the affidavit,"
because both you and he knew what the affidavit
was?
VJ: I think that's a reasonable assumption.
Q: All right. When you indicated to the President
that she had signed the affidavit, what, if
anything, did he tell you?
VJ: I think he -- his judgment was consistent with
mine that that was -- the signing of the affidavit
was consistent with the truth.(387)
Mr. Jordan testified that "I knew that the President was
concerned about the affidavit and whether or not it was signed.
He was, obviously."(388) When asked why he believed the President
was concerned, Mr. Jordan testified:
Here is a friend of his who is being called as a
witness in another case and with whom I had gotten a
lawyer, I told him about that, and told him I was
looking for a job for her. He knew about all of that.
And it was just a matter of course that he would be
concerned as to whether or not she had signed an
affidavit foreswearing what I told you the other day,
that there was no sexual relationship.(389)
Mr. Jordan summarized his contacts with the President about
Monica Lewinsky and her involvement in the Jones litigation as
follows:
I made arrangements for a lawyer and I told the
President that. When she signed the affidavit, I told
the President that the affidavit had been signed and
when Frank Carter told me that he had filed a motion to
quash, as I did in the course of everything else, I
said to the President that I saw Frank Carter and he
had informed me that he was filing a motion to quash.
It was as a simple information flow, absent a
substantive discussion about her defense, about which I
was not involved.(390)
The President himself testified in the grand jury that he
talked to Mr. Jordan about Ms. Lewinsky's involvement in the
case. Despite his earlier statements at the deposition, the
President testified to the grand jury that he had no reason to
doubt that he had talked to Mr. Jordan about Ms. Lewinsky's
subpoena, her lawyer, and her affidavit.(391)
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