(i) Ms. Lewinsky's Testimony
Ms. Lewinsky testified that she spoke three times to
President Clinton about the prospect of testifying in the Jones
lawsuit -- once (December 17, 1997) after she was on the witness
list and twice more (December 28, 1997, and January 5, 1998)
after she had been subpoenaed.
a. December 17, 1997, Call. Ms. Lewinsky testified that
President Clinton called her at about 2:00 a.m. on December 17,
1997. First, he told her that Ms. Currie's brother had died;
then he told Ms. Lewinsky that she was on the witness list in the
Jones case. According to Ms. Lewinsky, "[h]e told me that it
didn't necessarily mean that I would be subpoenaed, but that that
was a possibility, and if I were to be subpoenaed, that I should
contact Betty and let Betty know that I had received the
subpoena."(203) Ms. Lewinsky said that the President told her that
she might be able to sign an affidavit to avoid being deposed.(204)
According to Ms. Lewinsky, the President also told her, "You
know, you can always say you were coming to see Betty or that you
were bringing me letters."(205) Ms. Lewinsky took that statement to
be a reminder of the false "cover stories" that they had used
earlier in the relationship.(206)
b. December 28, 1997, Visit. Ms. Lewinsky was subpoenaed
on December 19. At her request, Vernon Jordan told the President
that Ms. Lewinsky had been subpoenaed.(207) She then met with
President Clinton nine days later on December 28, less than three
weeks before the President was deposed.
According to Ms. Lewinsky, she and the President discussed
the Jones lawsuit and how the Jones lawyers might have learned
about her. Ms. Lewinsky said they also discussed the subpoena's
requirement that she produce gifts she had received from the
President, including specifically a "hat pin."(208)
Because of their mutual concern about the subpoena,
Ms. Lewinsky testified that she asked the President if she should
put the gifts away somewhere.(209) The President responded "I don't
know" or "Hmm" or "Let me think about it."(210) Later that day,
according to Ms. Lewinsky, Ms. Currie called to pick up the
gifts, which she then stored under her bed in her home in
Virginia.(211) (This issue will be discussed more fully in Ground V
below.)
c. January 5, 1998, Call. Ms. Lewinsky also testified that
she spoke to the President by telephone on January 5, 1998, and
they continued to discuss her role in the Jones case. Ms.
Lewinsky expressed concern that, if she were deposed, she might
have a difficult time explaining the circumstances of her
transfer from the White House to the Pentagon. According to
Ms. Lewinsky, the President suggested that she answer by
explaining that people in the White House Legislative Affairs
office had helped her get the Pentagon job -- which Ms. Lewinsky
understood to be a misleading answer because she in fact had been
transferred as a result of her being around the Oval Office too
much.(212)
(ii) The President's Grand Jury Testimony
When the President testified to the grand jury, the
President admitted that Ms. Lewinsky visited him on December 28,
1997,(214) and that during that visit, they discussed her
involvement in the Jones case:
WJC: . . . I remember a conversation about the
possibility of her testifying. I believe it must
have occurred on the 28th.
She mentioned to me that she did not want to
testify. So, that's how it came up. Not in the
context of, I heard you have a subpoena, let's
talk about it.
She raised the issue with me in the context
of her desire to avoid testifying, which I
certainly understood; not only because there were
some embarrassing facts about our relationship
that were inappropriate, but also because a whole
lot of innocent people were being traumatized and
dragged through the mud by these Jones lawyers
with their dragnet strategy. . . .(215)
* * * *
Q: . . . Do you agree that she was upset about being
subpoenaed?
WJC: Oh, yes, sir, she was upset. She -- well, she--
we -- she didn't -- we didn't talk about a
subpoena. But she was upset. She said, I don't
want to testify; I know nothing about this; I
certainly know nothing about sexual harassment;
why do they want me to testify. And I explained
to her why they were doing this, and why all these
women were on these lists, people that they knew
good and well had nothing to do with any sexual
harassment.(216)
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