4. "We Just Have To Win"
Amidst the flurry of press activity on January 21, 1998, the
President's former political consultant, Dick Morris, read the
Post story and called the President.(1139) According to Mr. Morris,
he told the President, "You poor son of a bitch. I've just read
what's going on."(1140) The President responded, Mr. Morris
recalled, "Oh, God. This is just awful. . . . I didn't do what
they said I did, but I did do something. I mean, with this girl,
I didn't do what they said, but I did . . . do something(1141). . . .
And I may have done enough so that I don't know if I can prove my
innocence. . . . There may be gifts. I gave her gifts, . . . .
[a]nd there may be messages on her phone answering machine."(1142)
Mr. Morris assured the President, "[t]here's a great
capacity for forgiveness in this country and you should consider
tapping into it."(1143) The President said, "But what about the
legal thing? You know, the legal thing? You know, Starr and
perjury and all. . . . You know, ever since the election, I've
tried to shut myself down. I've tried to shut my body down,
sexually, I mean. . . . But sometimes I slipped up and with this
girl I just slipped up."(1144)
Mr. Morris suggested that he take a poll on the voters'
willingness to forgive confessed adultery. The President
agreed.(1145)
Mr. Morris telephoned the President later that evening with
the poll results, which showed that the voters were "willing to
forgive [the President] for adultery, but not for perjury or
obstruction of justice[.]"(1146) When Mr. Morris explained that the
poll results suggested that the President should not go public
with a confession or explanation, he replied, "Well, we just have
to win, then."(1147)
The President had a follow-up conversation with Mr. Morris
during the evening of January 22, 1998, when Mr. Morris was
considering holding a press conference to "blast Monica Lewinsky
'out of the water.'"(1148) The President told Mr. Morris to "be
careful". According to Mr. Morris, the President warned him not
to "be too hard on [Ms. Lewinsky] because there's some slight
chance that she may not be cooperating with Starr and we don't
want to alienate her by anything we're going to put out."(1149)
Meanwhile, in California, the President's good friend and
Hollywood producer, Harry Thomason, had seen the President's
interview with Jim Lehrer on televison.(1150) Mr. Thomason, who had
occasionally advised the President on matters relating to the
media, traveled to Washington, D.C., and met with him the next
day.(1151) Mr. Thomason told the President that "the press seemed to
be saying that [the President's comments were] weak" and that he,
Mr. Thomason, "thought his response wasn't as strong as it could
have been."(1152) Mr. Thomason recommended that the President
"should explain it so there's no doubt in anybody's mind that
nothing happened."(1153) The President agreed: "You know, you're
right. I should be more forceful than that."(1154)
In the ensuing days, the President, through his Cabinet,
issued a number of firm denials. On January 23, 1998, the
President started a Cabinet meeting by saying the allegations
were untrue.(1155) Afterward, several Cabinet members appeared
outside the White House. Madeline Albright, Secretary of State,
said: "I believe that the allegations are completely untrue."
The others agreed. "I'll second that, definitely," Commerce
Secretary William Daley said. Secretary of Education Richard
Riley and Secretary of Health and Human Services Donna Shalala
concurred.(1156)
The next day, Ann Lewis, White House Communications
Director, publicly announced that "those of us who have wanted to
go out and speak on behalf of the president" had been given the
green light by the President's legal team.(1157) She reported that
the President answered the allegations "directly" by denying any
improper relationship. She believed that, in issuing his public
denials, the President was not "splitting hairs, defining what is
a sexual relationship, talking about 'is' rather than was.(1158) You
know, I always thought, perhaps I was naive, since I've come to
Washington, when you said a sexual relationship, everybody knew
what that meant." Ms. Lewis expressly said that the term
includes "oral sex."(1159)
* * *
On Monday, January 26, 1998, in remarks in the Roosevelt
Room in the White House, President Clinton gave his last public
statement for several months on the Lewinsky matter. At an event
promoting after-school health care, the President denied the
allegations in the strongest terms: "I want to say one thing to
the American people. I want you to listen to me. I'm going to
say this again: I did not have sexual relations with that woman,
Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time.
Never. These allegations are false."(1160)
1. Lewinsky 8/6/98 GJ at 31-32, 39-40; DB Photos 0004 (photo
of dress).
2. FBI Lab Report, 8/3/98.
3. OIC letter to David Kendall, 7/31/98 (1st letter of day).
4. Kendall letter to OIC, 7/31/98; OIC letter to Kendall,
7/31/98 (2d letter of day); Kendall letter to OIC, 8/3/98; OIC
letter to Kendall, 8/3/98.
5. FBI Observation Report (White House), 8/3/98.
6. FBI Lab Reports, 8/6/98 & 8/17/98. The FBI Laboratory
performed polymerase chain reaction analysis (PCR) and
restriction fragment length polymorphisim analysis (RFLP). RFLP,
which requires a larger sample, is the more precise method.
United States v. Hicks, 103 F.3d 837, 844-847 (9th Cir. 1996).
7. FBI Lab Report, 8/17/98, at 2.
8. Lewinsky 7/27/98 Int. During earlier negotiations with
this Office, Ms. Lewinsky provided a 10-page handwritten proffer
statement summarizing her dealings with the President and other
matters under investigation. Lewinsky 2/1/98 Statement. Ms.
Lewinsky later confirmed the accuracy of the statement in grand
jury testimony. Lewinsky 8/20/98 GJ at 62-63. The negotiations
in January and February 1998 (which produced the written proffer)
did not result in a cooperation agreement because Ms. Lewinsky
declined to submit to a face-to-face proffer interview, which the
OIC deemed essential because of her perjurious Jones affidavit,
her efforts to persuade Linda Tripp to commit perjury, her
assertion in a recorded conversation that she had been brought up
to regard lying as necessary, and her forgery of a letter while
in college. In July 1998, Ms. Lewinsky agreed to submit to a
face-to-face interview, and the parties were able to reach an
agreement.
9. Ex. ML-7 to Lewinsky 8/6/98 GJ.
10. Lewinsky 8/26/98 Depo. at 5-6; Lewinsky 8/6/98 GJ at 27-28.
11. Lewinsky 8/26/98 Depo. at 69.
12. Lewinsky 8/6/98 GJ at 59-60, 87; Lewinsky 8/20/98 GJ at
82; Lewinsky 8/24/98 Int. at 8.
13. Ms. Tripp testified that she took notes on two
occasions. Tripp 6/30/98 GJ at 141-42; Tripp 7/7/98 GJ at 153-54; Tripp 7/16/98 GJ at 112-13.
14. Kassorla 8/28/98 Int. at 2-3. Ms. Lewinsky (who
voluntarily waived therapist-patient privilege) consulted Dr.
Kassorla in person from 1992 to 1993 and by telephone thereafter.
Id. at 1. Anticipating that the White House might fire Ms.
Lewinsky in order to protect the President, Dr. Kassorla
cautioned her patient that workplace romances are generally ill-advised. Id. at 2.
15. Kassorla 8/28/98 Int. at 2, 4. Ms. Lewinsky also
consulted another counselor, Kathleen Estep, three times in
November 1996. While diagnosing Ms. Lewinsky as suffering from
depression and low self-esteem, Ms. Estep considered her self-aware, credible, insightful, introspective, relatively stable,
and not delusional. Estep 8/23/98 Int. at 1-4.
16. Catherine Davis 3/17/98 GJ at 21-22.
17. Young 6/23/98 GJ at 40. See also Catherine Davis
3/17/98 GJ at 73; Erbland 2/12/98 GJ at 25 ("I never had any
reason to think she would lie to me. I never knew of her to lie
to me before and we talked about our boyfriends and, you know,
sexual relationships throughout our friendship and I never knew
her as a liar."); Finerman 3/18/98 Depo. at 113-16
(characterizing Ms. Lewinsky as trustworthy and honest); Raines
1/29/98 GJ at 87 ("I have no reason to believe that [Ms.
Lewinsky's statements] were lies or made up."); Tripp 7/29/98 GJ
at 187 ("There were so many reasons why I believed her. She just
had way too much detail. She had detail that none of us could
really conceivably have if you had not been exposed in a
situation that she claimed to be."); Ungvari 3/19/98 GJ at 19
("[s]he's never lied to me before"); id. at 21, 61-62; Young
6/23/98 GJ at 38-40.
18. Ms. Lewinsky testified that she has "always been a date-oriented person." Lewinsky 8/6/98 GJ at 28. See also Tripp
6/30/98 GJ at 141-42 (Ms. Lewinsky "had a photographic memory for
the entire relationship").
19. Clinton 1/17/98 Depo. at 78, 204. The transcript of
this deposition testimony appears in Document Supp. A. For
reasons of privacy, the OIC has redacted the names of three women
from the transcript. The OIC will provide an unredacted
transcript if the House of Representatives so requests.
20. Clinton 1/17/98 Depo. at 57.
21. Clinton 1/17/98 Depo. at 54.
22. Clinton 1/17/98 Depo. at 204. Beyond his denial of a
sexual relationship with Ms. Lewinsky, the President testified
that he could not recall many details of their encounters. He
said he could not specifically remember whether he had ever been
alone with Ms. Lewinsky, or any of their in-person conversations,
or any notes or messages she had sent him, or an audiocassette
she had sent him, or any specific gifts he had given her. Alone
together: Clinton 1/17/98 Depo. at 52-53, 56-59. Conversations:
Id. at 59. Cards and letters: Id. at 62. Audiocassette: Id.
at 63-64. Gifts from the President to Ms. Lewinsky: Id. at 75.
When asked about their last conversation, the President referred
to a December encounter when, he said, Ms. Lewinsky had been
visiting his secretary and he had "stuck [his] head out" to say
hello. Id. at 68. He did not mention a private meeting with Ms.
Lewinsky on December 28, 1997, or a telephone conversation with
her on January 5, 1998. Lewinsky 8/6/98 GJ at 27-28 & Ex. ML-7;
Clinton 8/17/98 GJ at 34-36, 126-28.
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