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Inside the Middle East
April 7, 2011
Posted: 806 GMT

"This is our happy-land," said Hamad Awidat standing next to a minefield in Majdal Shams, a village in the Israeli-controlled northern Golan Heights, as he points at the Syrian side of the disengagement line.

Nestled on a hillside with an Israeli Army base situated at its center this Druze village is a mere stone's throw away from Syrian-controlled land, but because of the minefields separating its residents from their families on the other side, it might as well be a world away.

"I would rather live under a Syrian dictatorship, than under an Israeli democracy," said the 26 year-old television producer who harbors no illusions about the economic benefits of living on what he calls the "wrong side of the minefield."

"Economically I can tell you the situation here is not perfect but very good. You can see, it's very good. We live in a nice situation. We are working, making money. It's nice. But because of the pressure of the political situation, we cannot enjoy much with our money. This is the problem," he said, taking another drag on his cigarette.

The political no man's land of people living in Majdal Shams and the villages of Buqata, Mas'ada and Ein Kuniya puts them in a unique situation in the Middle East, a region where the unusual, strange and sometimes downright bizarre meet on a daily basis.

The Druze are a secretive monotheistic religious sect that trace their origins to 11th Century Egypt. They number about a quarter of a million with most concentrated in Syria, Israel and Lebanon.

While many of the Druze living inside Israel today have Israeli nationality and are staunchly loyal to the Jewish State, their counterparts in the northern Golan rejected Israeli nationality in 1981 and have remained loyal to Syria until this day.

This situation has left its residents living in a state of political limbo for several decades. During the 1967 war Israel occupied the Golan heights. Later, 1981, this area was annexed by the Jewish state. This annexation has never been internationally recognized.

Some residents of these villages still retain a Syrian passport, but most merely hold a travel document issued by the Israeli authorities, leaving them yearning for an identity they believe would be defined if control of this part of the Golan Heights reverted to Syria.

"Somebody born in the Golan Heights, with a travel document, has no identity, "says Hamad.

Like the rest of the region, the pro-Syrian residents of the four Druze villages have been watching events unfold in Syria with great interest, and this past weekend took to the streets in a peaceful demonstration of their loyalty to the Syrian president Bashar Assad.

"We support Bashar Assad, we like this system, we like this government and he will be our president forever and we are happy with this, "said Hamad , who has the unusual distinction of having earned a Masters at Tel Aviv University after studying for his Bachelor's degree in Damascus.

Waving Syrian flags and carrying large posters of the Syrian leader, clergymen, women and children marched through Buqata village chanting slogans and singing Syrian songs .

"Today we went to the streets to send our word to the Syrian people and to the world. We wanted to show that we are Syrian and belong to the Syrian Republic. We are all under the Syrian leader, Bashar Assad. This man, this is our leader. We love Bashar Assad," said Ata Farhat a journalist for the Golan Times and a correspondent for Syrian State television who lives in Buqata.

Young men on horseback led the march through the center of Buqata village followed by children some of whom were dressed in Syrian officers uniforms, and local men who chanted slogans and songs, while the women lined the sides of the road throwing rice and flowers at the procession.

"Our enemy is not Bashar Assad. Especially in our situation. Our enemy is Israel. We are in an occupied area," said Hamad.

On deeper questioning the complexity of the situation becomes more apparent. Asked about the present situation in Syria and the unrest that has left some anti-government protesters dead, Hamad said the government's violent response was necessary to maintain the status quo.

"If I was a president and I had a country with 20 million people and I know that my system or my chair was in trouble because of some 100 or 200 guys moving around and making problems, so I don't have a problem killing them. It's a way of keeping this government or this system strong, " he said.

Echoing arguments made by the Syrian president, Hamad claims the unrest in Syria is being caused by outside forces trying to destabilize the region.

"To control a group you should part all of them, you know. And I think Israel and America are trying to do this in the whole of the Arab world. People here know these things and they do not want Syria to be divided. This unrest is only positive for the American and Israeli program in the Middle East and they know if they succeed in destroying Bashar Assad's system, they control all of the Middle East," he said.

With families of their Druze community still residing in Syria it is fair to assume the Golan Druze might be reluctant to speak out against the regime. Also they may want to make sure they are sitting on the right side of the fence should their villages one day revert to Syrian control under a regional peace plan that, for now, seems little more than a distant hope..

Syria and Israel have been in a state of de-facto war since 1967, and while the border has been quiet for decades now, neither side has stopped eyeing the other with unease.

The confusing geographic complexity of the region seems to rub off on people like Hamad, who while speaking only for himself, says he supports Assad in one sentence, but in the next says he really doesn't care as long as the Golan Heights is freed from Israeli control.

"I care about my issues and my business here. I am in an occupied area an I am looking for my freedom. I don't care who is in power, whether it is Hassan Nasrallah, Bashar Assad, Ahmedinejad, or somebody else. All he should know is the first issue he must work on is the Golan Heights issue. We have been occupied for over 40 years, the people can't wait any longer," said Hamad.

More importantly its seems, like anyone else in the world Hamad is yearning for his identity, one he and others like him believe Israel cannot give him but a Syrian passport can.

"I am fighting for my identity now, I want my identity. To get my identity and put it in my pocket. To be able to go to any airport in the world and move in freestyle. I want to be able to go inside the duty free and take all of my time, you know and not to be caught up in security. I'd like to buy whiskey. Why don't I have this chance?" he said.

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John A   April 7th, 2011 9:01 am ET

All people should be allowed to manage their homes and their country without foreign intervention.

Unfortunately for everyone in the middle east, their natural resources have attracted foreign intervention.

Unfortunately for everyone in the middle east, the definition of Israel is foreign intervention.

Israel was created by the foreign intervention of the UN in 1947.

Israel has been populated by foreign immigrants largely form Eastern Europe.

Israel is funded by foreign money largely from the United States.

If foreign intervention in the region ended, there would be no middle east crisis. Or at least not a crisis that would be of a concern to the rest of the world.

John A   April 7th, 2011 9:02 am ET

All people should be allowed to manage their homes and their country without foreign intervention.

Unfortunately for everyone in the middle east, their natural resources have attracted foreign intervention.

Unfortunately for everyone in the middle east, the definition of Israel is foreign intervention.

Israel was created by the foreign intervention of the UN in 1947.

Israel has been populated by foreign immigrants largely form Eastern Europe.

Israel is funded by foreign money largely from the United States.

If foreign intervention in the region ended, there would be no middle east crisis. Or at least not a crisis that would be of a concern to the rest of the world...

fonseka   April 7th, 2011 9:41 am ET

Druze have always shifted their alliances, like in Lebanon.

proud zionist   April 7th, 2011 11:58 am ET

John nazi A

your pespective of history is warped by your refusal to consider facts

you have been proven wrong so many times, nobody takes you serious any more

let's remember, how many civilians were killed in gaza?

Ido   April 7th, 2011 12:25 pm ET

Hello Jonh A,

why do you miss guide the readers and yourself?

Israel is jewish homeland for 3000 years
jews were banished from Israel by several empire
and ALWAYS came back to their home.

alot of current Israel population are made of Arab countries jews immegrants that couldn't continue living there due to constant harrasment by the Arab goverments.

so maybe you just don't like Jews and cannot admit it?

Maor   April 7th, 2011 1:24 pm ET

I beg to differ. Israel was not created by forign intervention in 1947. Israel's right to exist and the Jewish people׳s right for self determination is really not the subject. The issue here is the Druz feeling of belonging. Unfortunately, Israel has failed to create such a common identity with th Druz and this is the outcome.

arnons   April 7th, 2011 2:45 pm ET

Dear readers, as an Israeli, I tell you the truth, contrary to tendentious and most of the time CNN is false:
The Druze are drafted as the Israeli Defense Forces Israeli Jewish citizen, are very good and loyal to Israel. Their loyalty is everything, always serve paid for the sovereign state in which they live, even if their own people across the border. Loyalty to growing.

This network's tendentious, self-hatred which is pro-Arab and pro, is radically out of proportion, do not believe a word article!

Syria has long poverty and dictatorship which does not live who visits that the government through the media.

No one wants to cross the border, they interviewed someone who represents 1% of the population, a false picture. I know many Druze, with whom I served in the military. Most of them serve in combat units.

All tendentious and false.

Cember   April 7th, 2011 8:24 pm ET

I'm perplexed at the attitudes depicted. I would understand it better if Syria were a Druze state. But it isn't. Syrian Druze are subjected to the same political impotence as the rest of the Syrian population. The economy of Syria is weak. So, politically and economically, the Druze of the Golan Heights are far better off than their Syrian coreligionists.

If what is missing is a sense of "identity", it is only the fault of those who refused Israeli citizenship when it was offered, and who continue to refuse Israeli citizenship.

The Druze in Israel are a respected minority; not second class citizens. There have been Druze MPs and cabinet ministers and deputy-ministers. Israeli Druze serve with distinction (and many with high rank) in all branches of the IDF and police.

Israeli Druze are a well-integrated minority in a democratic country. In Syria, they are a targeted minority in a totalitarian and autocratic failed state. So what's Hamad's problem? How can he possibly conclude that: "Our enemy is not Bashar Assad. .. Our enemy is Israel. "?

BTW, Syria and Israel have been in a state of de jure war since 1948; not de facto and not since 1967.

Marc C   April 7th, 2011 10:31 pm ET

John A. states that all problems in the Middle East are created by the fact that the State of Israel exists which John implies is an artificially created country.

Now, John, isn't Jordan also an artificially created country? And didn't King Hussein kill more Palestinians in 1 month than Israel has wounded (mostly in self-defense) in 40 years?

And is the upheaval throughout the Arab world a result of Israel's existance as you want to imply? Would it cross your mind that maybe their own people can't bear the brutal tyrannies that rule most of those countries?

It must be that those brutal tyrannies wouldn't be in place if Israel didn't exist. If there would be no Jewish state you are sure Syria, Egypt, Iran and Saudi Arabia would be flourishing democracies with tolerance for all cultures. It's just that since Israel is there and wants to conquer them all, they have to have those brutal tyrannies in place ti protect their own people, right?

Oh, and btw, kill whoever opposes them, for the public benefit, of course, as Hamad (in the story) suggested.

Hey, the same way that Hamad demonstrated in Israel in support of Assad, why don't you, John, try demonstrating in Syria in support of Netanyahu?

Zak   April 9th, 2011 11:15 am ET

I'm sorry but i thought that muslims are not allowed alocohol and so are druze (??)

Anyway, it's a pity that Druze such as Hamad don't feel they belong in Israel.
Israel offered Israeli citizenship to all arabs/druze living in the golan height.
Other Druze living in the rest of israel have aligned themselves with Israel even before it was created in 48
and now they are reaping the fruits, being one of the most appreciated and well respected ethnicities in Israel.

They even fill the ranks of right wing parties like Likud and Lieberman's party

American   April 10th, 2011 8:13 am ET

John A, Many Israelis came from Arab countries where they were forced out and had to flee due to violence. Lebanon, Iraq and most of the other Arab countries were also created by Europe. Why not talk about them as well?

John A   April 10th, 2011 3:59 pm ET

A simple answer to all the history deniers and Zionist BS artists.

Yes boarders of all countries have changed over history. Yes all peoples have at some time suffered at the hands of others.

That's why human evolution invented safe guards like the Geneva convention, which Israel breaks every day. For safe guards, the founding fathers of America drafted a constitution, which Obama broke when ordering United State forces to war without asking congress.

Yes Jewish history is not deniable and there were Jews in the region of Palestine 2000 years ago. But why do you deny the existence of all other groups 2000 years ago? Jews were and always have been the minority, which does not automatically give them a claim to the land.

Personally I think the creation of Israel was one of the greatest crimes perpetrated in modern history. I can think that way because I would not like to be kicked out of my ancestral home on the base of a non factual biblical book. Would you give up your home because a non factual book claimed it wasn't your home 2000 years ago? Go on be honest, you might like honesty if you try it.

And why do you all ignore law and facts. International law clearly states it is illegal to resettle inhabitants from land captured in war and relocate foreign citizens into that captured area.

For the mentally challenged Americans (of which there seem to be many) I will give you a clue. After world war two, Germany remained overwhelmingly populated by Germans. Germans were not relocated into refugee camps while their land was redeveloped and populated by French, British, Americans and Russians "settlers". That's why Germany exists today, because the law wasn't broken.

Why is such a law important. History has shown that all countries like to expand and take from their neighbors. If war made this legal, countries would make excuses to go to war all the time. In fact that is exactly what Israel has done since its creation. Always pointing the finger, always going on a supposed counter offensive, always grabbing more land and always breaking the law. And you wonder why there is always trouble in the middle east.

So it is not important how many Zionist American sheep come to this blog to bleat their ignorance and dishonesty. Israel breaks the law and has done since the moment it was created in 1947. Israel also started terrorism in the middle east. Israel has no chance to claim the higher ground and have sympathy, when Israel commits the first sin and continues to do so.

But Americans return to your hamburgers, your bling bling ambitions, your food stamps and your illiteracy. Your support for the criminal state of Israel has brought you near bankruptcy. When the dollar has gone, Israel will be gone. And so much for 2000 years of Jewish fairy tales.

proud zionist   April 10th, 2011 7:54 pm ET

stop asking John A questions. He needs to check with his Hamas masters before he can answer, and all of them are in the bunkers in Gaza right now. So give John A a break, will you?

John A   April 11th, 2011 8:43 am ET

Porud Zionist says, "stop asking John A questions"
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Yes, the Zionist mind does not want Americans to be exposed to the truth. Zionism is Bernie Madoff style politics.
America, Good luck with that! Hope you can get out of the big mess it has made of your country.

John A   April 11th, 2011 8:50 am ET

American says many Israelis came from Arab countries where they were forced out and had to flee due to violence.
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America represents all nations. All of which journeyed to America to escape something.

How many bombs have foreign states dropped on America? Non ever.
How many bombs has America dropped on other countries? Countless amounts.

If you have escaped to America to flee violence, you certainly ended up in the belly of the beast.

Reagan   April 11th, 2011 9:05 am ET

John A, Just want to say you are the smartest one on this blog.

Proud Zionist is a racist mudslinger, who wants America to fight Israels illegal wars.

Proud Zionist Americans are waking up. The ones who are awake are sick of Israeli lobbyists and their evil desires. So don't think you will always be able to hide your Israeli crimes behind America political power. We are sick of it!!

Ron   April 11th, 2011 10:17 am ET

John A.
I'm reading your "historic epos" about Germany after WW2. There are 2 possibilities:

1. You know nothing about history.
2. You lie by purpose (most likely).

"Germans were not relocated into refugee camps while their land was redeveloped and populated by French, British, Americans and Russians "settlers". That's why Germany exists today, because the law wasn't broken" THIS IS A BIG LIE.

Here is one of examples (I have many):
Check about Kaliningrad. The historical name of the city is Kenigsberg. After WW2 all German population was totally transferred. Lost war – lost land.... Don't cry.... Be a man.

miriam   April 11th, 2011 11:10 am ET

John A,

There is not one Israeli or Jew who would claim that no other people have ever lived in the Holy Land. Although you may deny Jewish history, it is full of records of invading nations, population exchanges, exiles, expulsions, massacres,wars and changing borders.

Unfortunately, Jews have been kicked out of their homes for centuries because of The Holy Book, whether you believe it or not, and whether they believed it or not, Because the Jews are a people as well as a religion, being kicked out their homes didn't always have anything to do with the Book. Fortunately, you have not had to suffer that experience.

International law permits the capture of land in defensive war and the Geneva Conventions only forbid the forceful settlement of occupied territories. The WB is not "occupied" since it was not captured from a recognized sovereign, is not claimed by Jordan and most of the population is governed by it's own leaders. No Israeli was forced to live in the WB.

Inverting the truth and ignoring the fact that the Arabs introduced terrorism into the ME in modern times and their leaders and armies as well as their and Iranian proxy terrorist groups have initiated all the wars
with Israel, is a weak and false argument, useful for hateful propaganda but devoid of any honesty.

John A   April 11th, 2011 11:38 am ET

Ron you confuse yourself.

What you address is a boarder dispute i.e. where should the line be drawn. You do not address the fact that Palestine has been completely swallowed by illegal Israeli settlers which has left no boarder and no country.

Ron you avoid the issue. Its like you want to discuss a broken finger nail instead of a broken back.

Whats your problem Ron, a little dose of truth made you choke on your Zionist breakfast today?

Reagan, thanks for your post. Its becoming clear that most of the pro Israeli comments on this blog are written by Israelis posing as Americans. Its just another one of the many ways Israelis gives Americans a very bad name.

Ariely   April 11th, 2011 1:54 pm ET

All Arab countries are new entities.After the Arab invention and colonialization they were parts of the Ottoman ,Saladine,Selejum, Califat, Sassanid , Bizantine empires.
Following WW1 and the fall of the Ottomans they were created by Britain and France:

MAROCCO 1956- ALGERIA1962—TUNI1956—LIBIA 1951.
EGYPT1922—LEBANON 1946—JORDAN 1946.
SYRIA1945-IRAQ1932- YEMEN1967.
OMAN1970—KUIET1961—RA1971.

Most Arab countries are artificial entityes.
A mixure of tribes and minoritues without any common nationality, tradition or religion>
Ask the Berbers, Cops, Kurds, Christians, Bruth, Morones and others.

Israel the only nation sharing for more tham 3500 years unchanged religion, culture tradition.
Unmacched by eny other Muslim or Christians countries.

John A   April 11th, 2011 1:58 pm ET

Miriam, you really should try reading other peoples posts, before you immediately reply with meaningless Israeli propaganda.

proud zionist   April 11th, 2011 3:05 pm ET

"that Palestine has been completely swallowed"

the well known state of palestine that existed (according to Johnny baby) even before Islam existed.

Well done Nazi, another lie

proud zionist   April 11th, 2011 3:06 pm ET

And Johnny,

how many civilians were killed during operation cast lead in Gaza?

miriam   April 11th, 2011 5:59 pm ET

John A,

The WB IS disputed territory and that is why all your claims of "occupation", "illegal settlement" and " international law violations" are false.
Moreover, the dispute was between Israel and Jordan, not Palestinian Arabs and therefore irrelevant to today since Jordan has no claim to the territory.

Nevertheless, Israel/Jews have repeatedly agreed to negotiate the borders of a Palestinian state on the territory, something that the Arabs/Palestinians have repeatedly shown that they are unable to do, whether in 1922, 1938, 1947, Oslo, Wye or Annapolis...

Tommy   April 11th, 2011 6:09 pm ET

Miriam, you sound like a thief squirming in the witness box.

Israels game of treacherous, murder and theft no longer washes.

For your own good, try focusing your energy on being a better Jew and stop your focus on lies and theft.

Ariely   April 12th, 2011 7:57 am ET

Comment:"" many Israelis came from Arab countries where they were forced out and had to flee due to violence""
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Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do anything wise in this world.– Helen Keller

Difference between Jew refugees from Arab states and Arab refugees from Palestine;
*Most of Jews were expelled by Arab governments
*Most of Arabs followed the Arab leaders advice to leave

*Refugees numbers:
1.000.000 Jews versus 650.000 Arab

*Land:
Arab governments confiscated 38650mls of Jewish property
Israel area (notconfiscated) only12750mls

*Jew refugees from Arab states are part of Israeli building society withought UN $help
UN help to Arabs refugees is 4 times higher than Marshal Aid to Europe following ww2.

*The 22 Arab/Iran states invest worldwide in hate teaching and
preaching
However,they keep the refugees as a tools to destroy the defending Israel

John A   April 12th, 2011 9:28 am ET

Miriam says, "There is not one Israeli or Jew who would claim that no other people have ever lived in the Holy Land".

And then Miriam says, "The West Bank is not occupied since it was not captured from a recognized sovereign".
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So Miriam recognizes Jews don't have a unique claim to Palestine. But she refuses to recognize that non Jews have any sovereign rights.

Oh well everything is fine then! Jews do have the right to immigrate to Palestine and throw out Palestinians from their home, because Miriam doesn't recognize the natives have a right to live freely under their own rule.

proud zionist   April 12th, 2011 1:30 pm ET

Johnny baby

how many civilians were killed during operation cast lead in Gaza?

John A   April 12th, 2011 2:16 pm ET

Ariely,

You said,"Difference between Jew refugees from Arab states and Arab refugees from Palestine;
*Most of Jews were expelled by Arab governments
*Most of Arabs followed the Arab leaders advice to leave"

Nice that you forget what happened first. The Sterngang and Irgun were the first ever terror groups. They were Jewish. The Arabs ran from Palestine because the Irgun and Sterngang had burned down their houses and massacred families. And there began the middle east crisis. The leaders of the Sterngang and Irgun (who also killed British families) went on to rule Israels politics for the next 40 years. And there continued the crisis.

Israel is terror and murder and Israel committed the first sin. No matter how much history and truth you want to edit from your memory.

Shai   April 12th, 2011 7:20 pm ET

The missing piece here that the reporter failed to surface in this article is the tribal allegiances and complexity in the region. The northern Druze sect has families that are split apart by the border between Israel and Syria. There are blood ties in place that are stronger than any political ones.

In the past, if the northern Druze accepted Israeli citizenship then under the Syrian dictatorship of Hafez Asad their relatives would be subject to imprisonment and torture. Undert the "new regime", as the west has seen given the response to democratic outbursts in Syria, the velvet glove has been a slight veneer over the same rusty iron fist. This explains not only the anti-Israeli stance taken by these Druze but also their emphatic (and at times self-contradictory) support for the Syrian regime.

John A   April 13th, 2011 10:42 am ET

proud zionist April 12th, 2011 1:30 pm ET

Johnny baby

how many civilians were killed during operation cast lead in Gaza?
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The answer is 1400.

Proud Zionist why do you boast about the number of civilians Israel killed over a two week time period. You are such a sick puppy.

John A   April 13th, 2011 10:52 am ET

Shai, you Israeli play it both ways. That's why all the world (except Yankee red necks) knows you are liars.

One minute you claim the Syrian people are forced to hate Israel by the hand of their dictators. The next minute you claim a democratic voice for the Syrian people will give rise to the Muslim brotherhood which will start wars with Israel.

You try to create a picture that is negative for Arabs, no matter what they do. This is how most of the world community knows that Israel does not want peace and how Israel provokes the middle east crisis. The crisis has always been provoked to start wars against poorly equipped Arab armies, so Israel can rob more land.

By the way, when is Israel going to give back the Golan heights to Syria?The answer is never willingly. So Israel must be very happy with the result of all middle eastern wars, as they always gain land they don't want to return. Do you have enough intelligence to see Israels motive for never ending the conflicts?

Edward   April 13th, 2011 2:36 pm ET

If you favor the return of the Golan Heights to Syria because of 4 villiages, you can understand the German demand for the return of the Polish corridor, Silesia, and the Sedten lands; the French demands for Alsace-Lorraine: Armenian demands for the return of their country; Kirdish demands for a restoration; Wales and Scotland leaving Great Britan, Get over it. Wars happen and the loser pays the price, whatever it happens to be. The moral of this is, don't lose the war.

John A   April 14th, 2011 8:43 am ET

Edward, the German government makes no claim to the Polish corridor. You make up non existent examples in other countries and then use these as an excuse to defend Israels illegal occupations.

All your examples are fake. Have you ever noticed the European Union? Or has that just been lost in your dream world?

Why does every single Israeli supporter present non factual arguments and then conclude that the world should just forget and live with Israels crimes?

Edward your claims are non existent. The moral of the story is one Israeli lie always needs to be covered with another lie, until the entire political defense of Israel becomes so far from reality, only Jewish owned media can support it.

miriam   April 14th, 2011 4:20 pm ET

John A,

Your failure to grasp the fact that there has never been a Palestinian state and that the Palestinian Arabs only became a people in 1967, makes your ignorant arguments worthless.

Sovereignty over territory is only achieved by independent authority. Israel, including the WB and Gaza had never been under Palestinian Arab control and so those territories cannot be considered "occupied" Palestinian territory.
Since they were captured from Jordan and Egypt who were not recognized sovereign rulers of the territories they are not "occupied" Jordanian or Egyptian territories.

Preceding 1948, there was no Palestinian Arab nationalism, rather, there was Arab pan- nationalism which refused to recognize the rights of Jews to control their lives in a Jewish state or Christians in a Lebanese state.

The PLO, created in 1964 while the WB was under Jordanian control and Gaza under Egyptian control, was not created to form a Palestinian state, but simply to destroy the Jewish state. They specifically states that they were not interested in interfering in the control of those territories, which
was where the majority of Arabs lived.

Israel does recognize the right for the Palestinians to live in the Jewish state with full rights and also recognizes the right for Palestinians for self-determination in their own state on a large part of the territory originally proposed as the Jewish homeland.
The Palestinians Arabs who did not flee in 1947-1948 live in Israel with full rights whereas the Arabs of the WB and Gaza have repeatedly refused to accept their own state, concerned more for their efforts to see the destruction of the Jewish state.

Many of the Jews who were expelled in their entirety from the WB and Gaza in 1948 had lived in communities that were home to their families for centuries. Very few of them have been able to reclaim their land or property but have the right to purchase new homes in other communities.
The Jews who resettled in Gaza have already been expelled.
And the PA has clearly stated that there will be no room for Jews in their state, just as there is no room for them in Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Libya and a few living in dhimmitude in other neighboring states.

It's about time you stopped projecting the attitudes of the Arabs on to the Jews.

Filipe   April 15th, 2011 5:12 pm ET

John A,

The examples put forth by Edward are true and factual realities and results of past conflicts.

And the EU-– glad you brought that up. A fine example of a union of independent nations who have moved past the horrors of previous wars and conflicts and learned to live with the results.

Nations of the ME should take notice and do likewise.

Nearly all of the modern nations of the ME were born out of decisions made by either the League of Nations or the UN as a result of armed conflicts.

It's time to stop living in the past.

forest   April 15th, 2011 9:38 pm ET

jhon a ...stop wasting your time with them ...this history lesson will take for ever.we are very happy and proud of the un corrupt youth of arab countries rising up against dictators and mafia god fathers.so that is their biggest fear ...us holding them accountable in a court of law democracy style westren and american courts ..this b.s that they are the only democracy in the mid east .and dictators be aware ..where are your friends when you need them..look at mubarek and family ..ben ali ..gadafi and bashar soon..so be happy like us jhon a.....they only won because of our dictators and traitors ..we gona win by democracy its gona take time they gona try to derail it the so called only democracy in the region .but we will win .

proud zionist   April 16th, 2011 9:50 am ET

Johnny baby

Now I got you!

Here is what you wrote:

"The answer is 1400.

Proud Zionist why do you boast about the number of civilians Israel killed over a two week time period. You are such a sick puppy."

And as I have shown again and again, here is what the Hamas Interior minister said:

1. On November 1, 2010, Fathi Hamad, interior minister of the de facto Hamas administration in the Gaza Strip, was interviewed by the London-based Al-Hayat. One of the issues dealt with was the number of Hamas operatives killed in Operation Cast Lead. The interview was also published (November 1) in Hamas' Felesteen, its organ in the Gaza Strip.

2. Fathi Hamad responded to the allegations [of rivals] that Hamas did not play a major role in fighting the Israelis during Operation Cast Lead, and that it was the Gazans themselves who won the war and paid the price, while Israel had few losses.1

3. In response to those allegations Fathi Hamad answered, "It has been said that the [Palestinian] people were harmed by the war, but is Hamas not part of the people? It is a fact that on the first day of the war Israel struck police headquarters and killed 250 members of Hamas and the various factions, in addition to the 200-300 operatives from the [Izz al-Din] al-Qassam Brigades. In addition, 150 security personnel [i.e., members of the internal security forces] were killed, and the rest were from the people [i.e., civilians]..."

So who is the liar now? John A????

salaim syrian arab   April 17th, 2011 1:50 am ET

AMERICAN HYPOCRACY SOCALLED FOUNDING FATHERS MURDERED AMERICAN INDIANS AND STOLE THEIR LAND,MURDERED 145 THOUSAND JAPANESE 1945,THEY DROPED TWO BOMBS ON CIVILIANS BUT THEY WANT SYMPATHY FOR 9/11,THEY DID WORSE IN JAPAN.MURDERED CIVILIANS IN VIET NAM MI-LAI MASACAR,SHOT DOWN IRANIAN AIR LINE PASSENGER PLANE IN THE 80,S.TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THOUSAND CIVILIANS LOST THEIR LIVES IN IRAQ BECAUSE OF USA INVASION IN IRAQ,HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION IN GUANTANAMO WHAT KIND OF DE-MUCK.CARCY THEY BELEIVE IN?THEIR WAY OF LIFE IS STINK AND THEY ARE SCUM OF THE EARTH.BUT GOD WOULD JUDGE.THEY WILL CARRY THEIR GUILT TO THE LAST GENERATION.

John A   April 17th, 2011 10:38 am ET

Proud Zionist you keep repeating the same old text printed in Jewish news papers which are not supported by any other independent group in the world. The UN, Red Cross, European press etc.. all claim you are wrong.

Proud Zionist you look sad and desperate with the repetition of your Zionist propaganda which has been totally discredited by every single study of the Gaza war.

John A   April 17th, 2011 10:44 am ET

Miriam says, "John A,

Your failure to grasp the fact that there has never been a Palestinian state and that the Palestinian Arabs only became a people in 1967, makes your ignorant arguments worthless".
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This shows what a sick puppy Miriam is. The People referred to as Palestine lived under Ottoman invasion until 1919, then British took over after world war 2. The British then had the area to Zionists in 1947. The Palestinians have lived under three regimes, Ottoman, British and Zionist all of which came from overseas.

Miriam, if I follow the logic of your argument, the west could have invaded and resettled Eastern Europe, as many Eastern European states never had freedom under the Russians. Miriam you are a vile hater of humanity and you should crawl back to your cave in embarrassment.

University Rector   April 17th, 2011 11:44 am ET

Salaim syrian arab,

Most people I know are decent. I don’t see any reflection of American people in the way our government acts. Nothing about what is happening has anything to do with the will of the American people. Our government is run by a bunch of ruthless mobsters and the people in congress are so sold out, they don’t care as long as they get their limo and their paychecks keep coming. They are traitors.

miriam   April 20th, 2011 5:08 pm ET

John A,

It's surprising you do not read Al- Hayat or Felistin newspapers everyday.
It's too bad then that you missed Fathi Hamas's comments, direct quotes from his interviews.

The Palestinians refered to most pre-1948 literature were the Jews who lived in the Holy Land under British, Ottoman, Byzantine, Mamluk, Crusader......rule.
Arabs disliked the term, deeming it too Jewish, familiar with their own history and the history of the Jews in the land.

Unfortunately, propagandists have revised history so that some Arabs and Jews, as well as others, are deceived into believing myths,
fabrications and lies.

John A   April 21st, 2011 8:56 pm ET

Amazing when Miriam cant answer the facts, she comes up with a conspiracy theory about Arab propagandists who revise history.

Just answer the questions Miriam. I always have a good laugh at your answers and your non factual stories and conspiracy theories are always easy to expose as utter Israeli BS.

miriam   May 1st, 2011 10:42 am ET

John A,

What facts?

Psychological projection is evidence of your desperation.


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