Inside the Middle East
November 25, 2010
Posted: 1027 GMT

A Christian protester was killed and dozens others were wounded Wednesday in violent clashes with police that erupted over permission to build a church here.

Egyptian police fired tear gas. The 150 demonstrators answered with Molotov cocktails.

In the aftermath of the melee, the ground in front of a government building in suburban Giza was littered with rocks and knocked-over potted plants.

An Interior Ministry spokesman said 93 people were arrested.

Tensions have been running high between Egypt's Muslim majority and minority Christians who make up about 9 percent of the people.

Copts, who are adherents of an Egyptian sect of Christianity, complain of discrimination, including the lack of freedom to build houses of worship. The government denies those accusations.

However, the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom has expressed concern that the Egyptian government and media have deliberately promoted sectarian friction ahead of parliamentary elections scheduled for December.

"We've seen a clear uptick in recent weeks of incitement coming from media outlets and clerics espousing sectarian hatred and violence," said Leonard Leo, chairman of the independent, bi-partisan commission. "This kind of rhetoric goes too far and stokes the fire of extremists looking for ammunition to justify violent acts against religious minorities." Read more...

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Ariely   November 25th, 2010 1:42 pm ET

President Obama has never required the 58 Muslim countries to end the racist and apartheid practice against all non Muslim religions.

President Obama delivered well done charismatic speeches offering the Muslim countries support without requiring any reciprocity from the 58 Muslim countries.

Facts rarely reported in the West:
A: 10 million Cops Christian live in Egypt. The Cops are Egypt indigenous peoples ahead Arab conquest and colonization.
Practically it is almost impossible to guild a church:
Ministry of Interior regulations specify 10 conditions to build a church
Not within 100 meters of a mosque.
Approved by neighboring Muslim.

BBC TV has reported a similar case in Indonesia

B:In 14 Muslim countries Christians are not allowed to proselytize.
In 12 Muslims are restricted from converting to Christianity.
In 11 countries, Christians attending public schools are required to take Islam courses.
Governments bar Arabic-language versions of the bible.
Saudi Arabia banned any non-Islamic religious public literature.

Nahla   November 25th, 2010 4:28 pm ET

There are at least 6 christians been killed to jailed in egypt everyday because the go to their church and pray and get attacked by muslims. The government in order to release them, they have to report that THEY (the christians) who started the fight. they kidnap, kill and convert christians by force.. Why there's nothing done about this. I worry everyday what will happen to my family and all the christians who get INJUSTICE in this country. There are new all over the arab countries about these killing.. THE TRUTH not the fake, or what the EGYPTIAN government want the world to know. I could provide the truth and evidence IF there's any help will be accomplished.

John A   November 25th, 2010 4:54 pm ET

President Obama has never required the 58 Muslim countries to end the racist and apartheid practice against all non Muslim religions.

Because he's only the president of the USA and Obama's dictates only apply to America. Even in America, he is a lame duck . In short, get a life.

President Obama delivered well done charismatic speeches offering the Muslim countries support without requiring any reciprocity from the 58 Muslim countries.

All Obama has ever done is offer charismatic speeches, without action or substance. As he's never offered the Muslims anything real, he cant ask for anything in return. In short, get a life.

Ministry of Interior regulations specify 10 conditions to build a church
Not within 100 meters of a mosque.
Approved by neighboring Muslim.

So what, in most European countries you can park your car outside a synagogue without having it towed. Thanks Jewish lobby. But there is no problem parking outside a church. In short, get a life.

Saudi Arabia banned any non-Islamic religious public literature.

Israel does not give building licenses to Palestinians and has made millions homeless in the country they were born. In short get a life.

Is Ariely a waste of useful oxygen


miriam   November 28th, 2010 12:59 pm ET

John A,

Prohibitions against building churches in Egypt is a result of Islamic law.

Prohibitions against parking outside synagogues in Europe and many other places in the world is a result of Islamic law too.

In one case, the law realizes the superiority of Islam and in the other the law justifies attacks on Jews.

Israel is not responsible for giving building licenses to most Palestinians since they are ruled by their own government and are subject to the rules of their own municipalities.
Arabs living under Israeli rule are subject to the same laws as everyone else.
Israelis and Arabs who build illegally have to move out, usually after lengthy legal battles.

Hend   November 29th, 2010 7:42 am ET

John A !!! THANK YOU ! lol .. i read those comments and think WTF are these ppl for real ???? they know nothing !! and never bothered to reply !!! you said everything i wanted to say lol !! you cracked me up !!! AND YES as john said GET A LIFE !! man they dont know how ignorant they sound when they type these comments !! Ariel OBAMA Is the presedent of the united states of America Not Presedent of the WORLD ???!!!

Ariely   December 3rd, 2010 5:48 pm ET

The Islamist propagandist either Shia Islamist Iran or Sunni Arabs linked to Muslim brotherhood or Al Qaida and now Erdugan Islamsit Turkey are using the:

*** Taqiyya lying to infidel's doctrine.***

Few people in the west are aware about the lying Takiyya cult.
Arab/Iran cult- Taqiyya-Lying to infidel cult was formed by Arab tribes in 7 century.

It is widely used by Muslim spoke men and propagandists while debating with infidels/

The main goal is to confuse, divide, masking Muslims intentions
While debating with infidels they are doing:
1. Deny.
2. Lie.
3. Accuse the other side of something irrelevant.
4. Accuse the other side of something from another century.
5. Blame America.
6. Blame the Jews
7. Blame the Hindus
8. You made me do it.
9. Insult.
10. Threaten.
11. Declares himself/herself the winner.

A recent example is Saudi Ambassador reply on TV while discussion the Panorama TV report unveiling that Saudi funded textbooks teaching hate are used worldwide.

John A Islamist propangandist above comment is an additional example

Pls read: Understanding Taqiyya ― Islamic Principle of Lying for the Sake of Allah

John A   December 5th, 2010 11:42 am ET

Your post is another example of your mental health. Talk about a conspiracy theorist, tin foiled hat wearing lunatic.

Paranoid Ariely.
Do you know Osama has now hijacked your shadow. Better be careful, the bogeyman gonna get you hahahahaha

Filipe   December 6th, 2010 9:21 pm ET

OT John A,

I couldn't agree with you more. In fact, I'll take it one step further !!!

Obama and company should STFU about all intrnal affairs of sovereign foreign nations. They should also pack their bags and GTFH, stay there and mind their own friggin' business.

They are not the worlds' self appointed policeman, protector, international negotiator or mediator.

So, the rest of world should simply refrain from whining and crying that Obama and the US needs to fix the world's problems !!

(You should take some of this advice too !!!!)

John A   December 7th, 2010 3:56 pm ET

Filipe, I pleased you agree.

As we agree America should mind its own business, I suppose you also agree American politicians should stop sending vast sums of American tax money to Israels. Without American financial support Israel would have been a bankrupt and forgotten experiment.

American tax payers have never been asked if they want to send money to Israel. It doesn't matter who they vote for, the same agenda is managed by whoever occupies the White House.

In principle, if America funds Israels existence, America can tell Israel what to do. Its called financial slavery, just ask Ireland and Greece.

If Israel wants to be proud, it should stand on its own two feet and refuse free handouts. Then it can make its own decisions and live with the consequence of its decisions.

But Israel will never act with honor. Israel will take American money and then tell Americans to shove it. It will bribe American politicians so the democratic will of American citizens remains castrated. Israel will want Americans to sacrifices their lives in middle east wars and then Israeli spies will rob American technology.

Obama should mind his own business and Israel should act with honor. But we know neither of these things will ever happen.

miriam   December 8th, 2010 8:46 pm ET

John A,

Why not go back to the Middle Ages with your anti-semitic conspiracies and accusations?
With your support for those who wish to send the world back in time, it should suit you just fine.

The US doesn't exist, the Jews are being massacred and expelled all over the place for crimes they are innocent of, and Islam is conquering large areas of Europe.

Meanwhile, most of us have moved on, to the present and hope that history isn't repeated.

John A   December 9th, 2010 12:21 pm ET

Expressing thoughts in your own deluded head has failed to answer my point. But then again you never do answer the point. Nice try to cover up for your pro Zion friend Filipe and all of his inadequacies. But you failed again.

Filipe   December 9th, 2010 1:27 pm ET

OT John A,

Since you not an American, I don't believe you are capable of understanding what they feel about their foreign aid policies.

Obviously they have been asked and have answered through the democratic voting process. So, their agreement has been validated.

If the Amercan people think they are being misled, it's up to them to rectfy the situation through the democratic process.

How a recipient of the aid uses the aid is conditional on the situation. I've not heard any discussions coming from the US which idicates there is any coflicts.

"Financial Slavery", Are you kidding????? You must be joking?? Israel i a slave???? How???

You're too funny-- one sentence you scream finsncial slvery--the next-- you whine and cry and moan about how Israel tells the poor old US to "shove it".

A little paraniod, or what?

Since you're not an American, why do you care so much about the US tax money, wher it goes, what it's used for....blah blah...blah????

You should take some of your own advice....... mind your own friggin' buisiness.

Exactly how is you native countr's foreign policy any different or better.

I only see you whining and crying about thr US. Must be a lot better where you live!!!

ah ha ha ha ha ha!

miriam   December 12th, 2010 1:40 pm ET

John A,

What's your point?

That the Jews run the media, run the US, steal US taxes, have a state that has to be judged by double standards and preferably disappear etc etc?

These are not your ideas but those of anti-semites for decades and based on the anti-semitism of centuries.

They deserve no response.
Only contempt.

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