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October 24, 2010
Posted: 1116 GMT

Human rights activists hope a new film will raise international awareness about stoning.

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miriam   October 24th, 2010 12:30 pm ET

It"s good to see that human right's activists are hoping to raise awareness of these Iranian/Sharia endorsed customs.

However it appears to contradict with the fact that so-called human rights activists can host Iranian government controlled TV shows and convert to Islam, thereby adopting those laws, after brief visits to the Islamic Republic.

John A   October 25th, 2010 6:17 am ET

Stoning is hideous to all in the west.

Observations. Interesting that the USA wants to bomb Iran, so they make a film which gives shocking publicity to this barbaric custom.

At the same time, the USA makes multi billion arms deals with Saudi Arabia which also stones citizens to death.

Interesting the USA also has the death sentence, but for some reason feels strangulation through hanging is more tasteful than death via stoning.

Finally, why does America feel it is responsible for policing the world? Especially when corruption, brutal murder, drugs and human trafficking are rife in America. Some policeman?

In summary, it would be nice to think this film has been produced to make the world a better place. But unfortunately it seems more like an attempt to smear Iran, as it focuses on Iran and not all countries which practice stoning.

And as for the world being a better place, statistics show that during the time needed to write this blog there will have been another brutal rape or murder in the USA. Statistics also indicate that within the same time frame a rape or murder was not committed in Iran.

Conclusion, the world could be a better place and we should aim to make all improvements possible. But in this film America attempts to remove a spec of dust from Iran's eye, before removing the plank from its own. We all know more people are brutally killed in America through execution or murder. Funny how people see American crime films as entertainment, but Iranian stoning films are supposed to be hard hitting and focus on social justice.

Being sent to the bottom of an ocean in concrete boots by John a Joseph Gotti type family is more common than stoning. America should first police itself better, before attempting to apply its hypocrisy to the world.

miriam   October 25th, 2010 5:32 pm ET

John A,

The film was made by an Iranian-American, based on a non-fiction book by an Iranian-French journalist.

The US government doesn't have to approve every film made by its citizens or on its territory.

Perhaps you are unfamiliar with freedom of speech and expression, unless it involves brain-washing gullible readers.

John A   October 26th, 2010 2:07 pm ET

Miriam, you & freedom of speech don't really reconcile very well. Thats why every day you appear on this blog to attack the words of other bloggers.

Do you have any thing interesting to say, or is it just about b$tching down alternative views at every opportunity??

Filipe   October 26th, 2010 9:06 pm ET

John A,

I must agree with you !!!! It would be better if this film were to really tell it like is instead singling out Iran for stoning.................. Stoning is a Muslim thing...........not just Iranian !!!! It happens wherever Sharia law is enforced!!!

jayne   October 27th, 2010 8:28 am ET

It is just as Mariam has said,about the production and origin of this film.This is not about painting any country bad. No. It's about telling the truth as it is.We all have specks in our eyes but it takes discipline and honesty to acknowledge the existence of this speck.

chukwuma   October 28th, 2010 9:38 pm ET

I was shocked when I heard iran executed a woman by stoning, why should this barbaric law be practiced in todays world in d name of religion. Those dat partake in d stoning are they holy people?

Bea   October 29th, 2010 7:04 am ET

Are Mexicans Muslims? I have read reports that in September 2010 2 stonings took place in Mexico. One victim was reported to be a town mayor. This was reported by several different sources, one being aol news.

Naiomi   November 1st, 2010 7:21 pm ET

I beg to differ! You should get your facts straight before raising fingers. Like the old saying point one finger to others and the rest are pointing toward you.

Stoning is arguably the world's oldest form of execution. It is as old as written literature, and the most common death penalty described in the Bible (prompting Jesus' famous anti-death penalty statement in John 8.7: "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"). Although it has never been a legal form of execution in the United States, it is practiced elsewhere in the world, primarily in the Middle East and sub-Saharan Africa.

Haris   November 2nd, 2010 12:10 am ET

SORRY BUT BOTH JUDAISM AND CHRISTIANITY ALLOW STONING ACCORDING TO THEIR LAWS!! DON'T DEMONIZE ISLAM AND THEN GLORIFY YOUR RELIGION .... PEOPLE OF THE BOOK NEED TO UNITE ONCE THE 2ND COMING OF CHRIST HAPPENS OR ANY SIGN OF THE RELIGION OF ABRAHAM!

Haris   November 2nd, 2010 12:12 am ET

stoning is a Christian and Jewish thing as well .... Not just Islam.

miriam   November 2nd, 2010 12:59 pm ET

Haris,

Judaism has moved on and their laws have evolved with social modernization.

Judaism essentially rejected capital punishment 2000 years ago even though theoretical discussions continued until later.

John A   November 3rd, 2010 7:15 pm ET

Miriam, Was the flotilla and gaza war 2000 years ago already?

John A   November 3rd, 2010 7:18 pm ET

Thats write Miriam. Israel has evolved beyond stoning. Now it uses industrial scale phosphorous bombs and drone attacks to kill the men, women and children it dislikes.
Stoning would take too much time and effort.

John A   November 3rd, 2010 7:21 pm ET

PS 2000 years ago there was no such land called Israel and the minority religion of Judaism did not control any state or tribunal.

But around 2000 years ago the Jews all cried out crucify, crucify!!

Miriam. do you have any idea how ill informed you are. Its truly pitiful.

miriam   November 4th, 2010 10:21 am ET

John A,

You are so predictable!

Israeli law is based on Jewish law, just like most Western countries.

However, (to re-emphasize) Israel is a secular state, ie, her laws are not dictated by Jewish religious laws, unlike many other states in the world whose law is religious, eg Sharia.

Anyway, fighting wars in accordance with international law and protecting innocent citizens from deliberate attack should not be confused with capital punishment, handed down to an individual after judicial process.

PS 2000 years ago, the Romans were in the process of destroying the independent, Jewish Kingdom of Judea, the Kingdom of Israel having already been destroyed and its population largely exiled or massacred. The Jew Jesus was one of many crucified by the Romans accused of sedition, resulting from attempts to prevent the Roman takeover of the Jewish kingdom.

Judaism was the only monotheist religion in the region at the time.

John A   November 4th, 2010 1:15 pm ET

How many times can Miriam be wrong in one day??

M: Israeli law is based on Jewish law, just like most Western countries.

hahahahaha
Wrong! All western countries are based on Christian principles!! Christians never had stoning.
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M: However, (to re-emphasize) Israel is a secular state, ie, her laws are not dictated by Jewish religious laws, unlike many other states in the world whose law is religious, eg Sharia.

hahahahaha

Its just if your not Jewish you will find it impossible to get a building license.

A majority Muslim states are called Muslim, because they are NOT Jewish. So what they practice should not be your concern. Try keeping your nose out of others lands.!!! You can do what you want in Israel but not in the occupied territories.
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M: Anyway, fighting wars in accordance with international law and protecting innocent citizens from deliberate attack should not be confused with capital punishment, handed down to an individual after judicial process.

hahahahahaha

Israel has repeatedly broken international law. Just ask Jewish judges at the international court. They all condemn Israel, its just you wont listen or accept the law.
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M: PS 2000 years ago, the Romans were in the process of destroying the independent, Jewish Kingdom of Judea, the Kingdom of Israel having already been destroyed and its population largely exiled or massacred. The Jew Jesus was one of many crucified by the Romans accused of sedition, resulting from attempts to prevent the Roman takeover of the Jewish kingdom.

hahahahaha

2000 years ago Israel did not exists. There is no proof that the Jews had anything more than a singular temple in a land which was predominately occupied by Babylonians, Assyrians Canaanite's, Greek, Romans etc. Get over yourself and learn history. PS religious books were the political books of there time, they are not in any way proven factual.
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Judaism was the only monotheist religion in the region at the time.

hahahaha

Judaism is the only religion to still be practiced since that time. Everyone else evolved into the modern era which was heralded by Christianity, Islam and Buddha.

miriam   November 4th, 2010 10:11 pm ET

John A,

Christian principles are based on Jewish principles.
You have told us yourself that is the reason you rejected Christianity.

Christianity was born out of Judaism just as Judaism was abandoning capital punishment, 2000 years ago.

Any non-Jew can build just like any Jew provided the land is purchased legally and they apply for permits from the relevent authorities.

There is no "occupation".
Almost all the Palestinians in the territories live under PA/Hamas control and their laws.

The ICJ is another UN body that can be hijacked by the Arab/Muslim/Non-aligned states. The Court has had to violate its own principles in order to hear cases against Israel.

Jews have always been encouraged to debate and think freely. That also applies to Jewish judges. They are also vulnerable to propaganda and indoctrination, not necessarily from Israel

The only "laws" Israel supposedly breaks are those invented by the anti-Zionists and are not applied to any other country.
These are not international laws but anti-Israel myths, rhetoric and application of double standards

The Jewish Kingdoms of Israel and Judea were repeatedly invaded by empires who deposed each other and wiped each other out, but who never made Jerusalem their capital, even the Romans who tried very hard to remove any trace of Jewish history. They failed and there is plenty of proof. Only you have fallen in their trap.

Modernity cannot erase history,
New religions cannot displace the old.
The Jews have been steadfast in their beliefs and resisted forced conversions. Massacres of Jews resulting from their strength of belief have not succeeded in annihilating them and nor will the abhorrent attempts to delegitimize their history and national identity by lies, myth, distortions and hate.

Filipe   November 5th, 2010 5:10 pm ET

For all of you who are so bent on insisting that stoning is a Christian and Jewish method of execution...... I'll say it again.......

" It would be better if this film were to really tell it like is instead singling out Iran for stoning.................. Stoning is a Muslim thing...........not just Iranian !!!! It happens wherever Sharia law is enforced!!!"

Niether the Christians nor the Jews have dune this since Biblical times........

But it's obvious that Islam, Sharia law and those who live by it are still stuck in the dark ages.

John A   November 8th, 2010 7:27 pm ET

Filipe If Sharia law is not practiced in your country, you dont need to worry. Or is it your position to judge and police everyone?

Everyone has the right to run their own country and evolve at their own speed. The real problems are when some countries try to run others i.e. USSR/Eastern Europe, USA/World or Israel/Palestine.

But what wrong with Muslims running Muslim countries??

John A   November 8th, 2010 7:30 pm ET

Miriam, long reply. All your own personal and totally non factual words again :-(

Any chance you want to join planet earth and learn some facts :-)

Filipe   November 11th, 2010 1:32 pm ET

John A,

You should follow your own advice---well said: " If Sharia law is not practiced in your country, you dont need to worry. Or is it your position to judge and police everyone?

Everyone has the right to run their own country and evolve at their own speed"
.........................................................................

Then just stfu and mind your own business. It's not your job to police everyone. Allow Israel the right to run their own country as they see fit.

And there is nothing wrong with Muslims running Muslim coutries!

Tehyu can do what they want. But that doesn't change my opinion that they are "stuck in the dark ages".

You a simply amazing !! Flip flop flip flop flip flop !!!!!

miriam   November 11th, 2010 2:36 pm ET

John A,

Does that mean you don't like the truth?


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