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September 7, 2010
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Time Magazine cover for September 13th, 2010

   

  

In a piece that is creating a bit of controversy in Israel and abroad our colleagues at Time magazine filed a cover story titled "Why Israel Doesn't Care About Peace". Jerusalem bureau chief Karl Vick writes of an Israeli population largely unconcerned with issues of war and peace with Palestinians and more focused on enjoying the country's thriving economy and improving social conditions. 

"...the truth is, Israelis are no longer preoccupied with the matter. They’re otherwise engaged; they’re making money; they’re enjoying the rays of late summer. A watching world may still define their country by the blood feud with the Arabs whose families used to live on this land and whether that conflict can be negotiated away, but Israelis say they have moved on.”  

"...But wait. Deep down (you can almost hear the outside world ask), don’t Israelis know that finding peace with the Palestinians is the only way to guarantee their happiness and prosperity? Well, not exactly. Asked in a March poll to name the “most urgent problem” facing Israel, just 8% of Israeli Jews cited the conflict with Palestinians, putting it fifth behind education, crime, national security and poverty. Israeli Arabs placed peace first, but among Jews here, the issue that President Obama calls “critical for the world” just doesn’t seem—critical." 

While  Israelis themselves will speak about their fellow countrymen who live in the "Tel Aviv bubble" divorced from some of the realities of the conflict, many Jewish Israeli will tell you it is impossible for them to escape or ignore the conflict when their sons and daughters are forced to serve in the military and it's not that they don't want peace, but that they are tired, they say, of offering concessions and getting nothing from the Palestinians in return. But as Vick writes, many have lost hope in any sort of peace process making "the Palestinian question distant from the minds of many Israelis" 

Analysis of the conflict between Israelis  and Palestinians is always subject to heated and emotional debate so it is no surprise that the article  has caused a stir among some supporters of Israel. 

Arutz Sheva,  a news service serving Israeli settlers in the occupied West Bank published an opinion piece on the Time story calling it a "blood libel" against Israel and evidence that the magazine and "countless other media in the Western world, can no longer be trusted to tell the truth." 

Pro-Israel media watchdog group HonestReporting charges the story "glosses over any legitimate reasons why Israelis may have lost interest in the details of the peace process" and laments that "Time Magazine doesn't care about Israel" 

Vick, who was recently assigned to Jerusalem says the cover headline for the story was "meant to be provocative and intrigue" but defended the reporting.  "There is always debate and criticism of anything that challenges conventional wisdom"  he said.  

"It was apparent to me that life here is really good and when security is good there is no urgency" 

   

 

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danish   September 7th, 2010 8:49 am ET

Oh, come on. Did he bother to look at the city of Ramallah or at the northern parts of Gaza – where people who are relatively wealthy don't occupy themselves with the peace precess 24-7. It is easy just to throw mud at Israel's face. Live in a conflicted area for a week and we will see how much you can talk, live and breath the conflict. Pure provocation – Nothing journalistic

miriam   September 7th, 2010 8:59 am ET

Vick, being recently assigned to Jerusalem, has obviously not been there long enough.

He's probably not moved from American Colony Hotel, gleaning his innaccurate observations from other journalists.

Of course Israelis want to have peace and are continually immersed in media discussions and realities on the ground. But with years of experience, they have also learned to balance their daily concerns and live as normal a life as is possible under the circumstances.

This is a way of life that journalists who pass through on temporary assignments cannot possibly grasp.

p. junke   September 7th, 2010 1:20 pm ET

I cancelled my subscription years ago because Time was written for Junior Highschoolers.

If I had a subscription today, I would cancel because of the uninformed biased articles like the one featured on Times cover.

Having lived in Israel..NOTHING could be further from the truth !

Israelis desire peace more than most because they live in a constant state of war...a war that is not of their doing.

Ariely   September 7th, 2010 1:30 pm ET

Lessons of blood paid by Israeli people!!!!

Lessons that the west start to learn only lately and still don’t understand the threat.
Israel is learning that the march to the so much desired peace will be a very long a dangerous journey.
Israelis learned that to maintain a level of normal life under the nonstop destruction pressures they have to concentrate on the daily normal life routine of people worldwide.

What lead to this Israelis approach?

1: Endless Arabs wars.
2: Endles Arab terror to conventional wars and a mixture of all types of wars.
3: Endless hate preaching and teaching by Arabs in schools, media, mosques.
4 : Endless attacks and fouls blame by media, UN and the so called human rights groups will continue whatever the defending Israel will do or not do.
5: Endless Arab boycotts attempts
6: Endsless refusal by Arab leaders refusal to accept a Jewish. Started 85 years ago and still in full force volume today.
7: Endless Arab leader's declarations that the political negotiations are only tactics that will lead to Israel destruction.

8: On the other hand:
8.1 Israel attempts to reach a comprehensive peace lead only to more blood shade
8.2: Understanding that the world is ready to pay for the Arabs petrol supply with their moral values and Israel blood coin.
8.3 : Understanding that the defending Israel is the only country worldwide phasing daily threats to be destroyed by powers 150 times larger and fabulous rich
8.4: Understanding that Israel has to relay on its own defense and on the same time to keep its interior living spirit of normal life.

Ariely   September 7th, 2010 3:14 pm ET

Lessons of blood paid by Israeli people!!!!

Lessons that the west start to learn only lately and still don’t understand the threat.
Israel is learning that the march to the so much desired peace will be a very long a dangerous journey.
Israelis learned that to maintain a level of normal life under the nonstop destruction pressures they have to concentrate on the daily normal life routine of people worldwide.

What lead to this Israelis approach?

1: Endless Arabs wars.
2: Endles Arab terror to conventional wars and a mixture of all types of wars.
3: Endless hate preaching and teaching by Arabs in schools, media, mosques.
4 : Endless attacks and fouls blame by media, UN and the so called human rights groups will continue whatever the defending Israel will do or not do.
5: Endless Arab boycotts attempts
6: Endsless refusal by Arab leaders refusal to accept a Jewish. Started 85 years ago and still in full force volume today.
7: Endless Arab leader's declarations that the political negotiations are only tactics that will lead to Israel destruction.

8: On the other hand:
8.1 Israel attempts to reach a comprehensive peace lead only to more blood shade
8.2: Understanding that the world is ready to pay for the Arabs petrol supply with their moral values and Israel blood coin.
8.3 : Understanding that the defending Israel is the only country worldwide phasing daily threats to be destroyed by powers 150 times larger and fabulous rich
8.4: Understanding that Israel has to relay on its own defense and on the same time to keep its interior living spirit of normal life.

Joe   September 7th, 2010 4:11 pm ET

I have long stoped even glancing at your POS magazine. After reading of your recent issue in the Wall Street Journal, I will be demanding that all my health care providers stop their subscriptions to Time. I look forward to learning of the demise of your soit disant "news" publication. The sooner you stop publishing, the better.

betty bosnick   September 7th, 2010 5:39 pm ET

a totally senseless article ..are there any people in the world who do not want to live in peace...who do not want their lives threatend daily (pregnant woman and unborn child killed .palestinians happy about it) Come on whats your point....Israel would be more interested in peace if they were starving ...how ridiculous11
REALL BAD JOURNALISM!!!

Smith in Oregon   September 7th, 2010 6:06 pm ET

The people of Israel and America sincerely want Israel to roll up their sleeves and make the difficult concessions, find the courage and honestly craft a lasting peace treaty with the Palestinian people and with each of their Arabic neighbors in the Middle East.

The Mossad assassination teams, the CIA, America's Shadow government agency's and the U.S. Military Complex does not want Israel to sign a peace treaty with the Palestinian people and with Israel's Arabic neighbors. That would result in cuts in their funding, layoff's and cut-backs on each of their organizations. Those few but very vocal nay-sayers are going to try to torpedo, block and obstruct the courage and will of the Israeli people to craft and sign a peace treaty.

What comes out of this latest Middle East Peace treaty effort is going to be very telling. Is the Will of the Israeli people going to win out, or are they like American citizens, mere hostages to the military complexes and their nefarious designs for endless wars?

Michele Chabin   September 7th, 2010 7:46 pm ET

Of course Israeli's care about peace. Their children are drafted. The title should have read "Why Israelis don't Care about the PEACE PROCESS." The reason: they know it won't lead to peace.

Sara   September 7th, 2010 7:49 pm ET

As an American Jew I do not always agree with Israel's political agenda. However, to put an article such as the most recent TIME cover is shocking and will only continue to promote antisemitism. It's a shame that TIME chose to feature images of Israelis with tattoos laying on the beach smoking hookah. It is as if the magazine is trying to say to Americans that Israelis are dirty people who relax all day and make the Palestinians lives hell without a care in the world. Americans are not the most educated and well traveled bunch. Why create controversy to sell magazines while also instigating further ignorance and hate? It's disgusting.

Chut Pata   September 7th, 2010 7:57 pm ET

The day Israelies would decide that they have robbed enough land from the Palestinians, killed enough Palestinian children, and destroyed enough of Palestinian lives, they will offer real peace. This is not going to happen. There is no limit to the land they can rob, not enough Palestinians they can kill, and not enough destruction they can enjoy.

Israeli Woman   September 7th, 2010 8:08 pm ET

How dare this author speak for us or about us Israelis. Peace always was and always is the number one priority here and the response that his article has gotten just goes to prove it.
Western liberal leftists have no idea what its like to live in this country with the constant threat of terror and psychotic neighbors like Iran.
Yes we go on living normal lives, but so did Americans after 9/11. If we don't – then they win. But how dare he say such a blatant lie on the cover of a magazine that has now lost all credibility with me.

Ariely   September 7th, 2010 8:24 pm ET

Smith in Oregon commented:' "Is the Will of the Israeli people going to win out, or are they, mere hostages to the military complexes and their nefarious designs for endless wars?'
-
Ones again they march ___T ypical Arab lying statement:
Telling lies to infidels masking their planes
Attack the infidels and later blame them in case they manage to defend succesffuly

Reality
A: Arab narratives leading to world wide endless wars:
1:Qur'an 8:12–I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them
2:Qur'an 9:14Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace
3:Qur'an 9:123 O you who believe!fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness
4: Muslims are fighting up to the end of times to impose by sward worldwide

ONE RELIGION –ISLAM
ONE LEADER- THE CHALIF
ONE LAW-THE SHARIA

Leading to the Islamist harvest of:
15.981 Islamist attacks since 9/11
Islamist worldwide kill attacks summary
811-Aug
1060-Jul
556-Jun
742-May
Have you seen any Muslim demonstrating against this ideology?

zz   September 7th, 2010 10:19 pm ET

CNN defending TIME? surprise, surprise

Nolan   September 7th, 2010 10:22 pm ET

A biased, ignorant of the present or past history and anti Semitic essay. Perhaps the author should do his next article on the many Palestinian groups who clamor for peace such as those who recently launched several murderous attacks on Israel citizens. At my latest count there are four dead and six wounded in the past few days. Don't fail to mention the continuous rocket attacks. There were more than 351 launched against Israel since January this year. A closing paragraph should include the Palestinian refusal to live in peace since the 1937 Peel Commission Report. Four more recent attempts at peace have failed due to Palestinian intransigence. So much for Israel not wanting peace.

karen avrech   September 8th, 2010 12:02 am ET

Your insidious article claiming that the man on the street in Israel is oblivious to peace efforts is obscene. The majority of Israeli culture revolves around the yearning for "Shalom." Do you think these Jewish mothers are excited about sending their 18 year old sons to face possible death? Military service is obligatory in Israel. Take a tour of the rehab hospitals where the prime of youth have been maimed by suicide bombers, take a gas mask home, devote one room in your house as "safe room," face the threat of total annihilation by a madman with his finger on a nuclear trigger. Peace would be on hand in a moment if the Palestinians stopped the violence.

Shai   September 8th, 2010 5:10 am ET

Smells like a desperate gimmick to sell copies of a magazine that is rapidly heading to oblivion.

Juan batch   September 8th, 2010 6:41 am ET

I don't believe for a second that the people in Isreal are only concerned about money at the expense of security. Security in Isreal is to be achieved only by having a strong capable military. The governments surrounding Isreal have only one thing on their mind, the distruction of Isreal. Anyone who thinks the residense of Isreal only care about money and are ignoring the Palistinians has a crippled mind.

Jacqueline Ancess   September 8th, 2010 2:09 pm ET

Time Magazine has a long history of anti-semitism and the obscene distortion on this issue's cover is yet another manifestation of it. But this cover says more about the current climate in our nation, where it is ok to attack minorities, whether they be Muslems, gays, or Jews. Shame on Time magazine. All people of good will need to speak out.

NB   September 8th, 2010 2:58 pm ET

Golda Meir is credited with many notable quotes that still hold true today, the most true among them: "Peace will come to the Middle East when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us." In other words, as long as Arab nations prefer to fund terrorism rather than provide meaningful help to Palestinians, as long as the Palestinian leaders siphon aid money to their foreign bank accounts rather than help their own people, as long as young Palestinians strap bombs onto themselves and their parents praise their martyrdom, and as long as Hamas uses Palestinian children as human shields in battle, the prospects of peace remain dim. Still... despite all of that, anyone who has ever met an Israeli knows that they desperately want the fighting to stop. But peace cannot be declared unilaterally. So we wait for the Palestinians (and the rest of the Arab world) to love their children more than they hate Jews... As Golda Meir also said, "Pessimism is a luxury that a Jew can never allow himself."

valkyrie22   September 8th, 2010 3:59 pm ET

Just 100 million people boycotting (at $5 per person/day) the Apartheid Regime in Israel is costing them $500 million/day or $15 billion/mo. or $180 billion/year. Just do it today. Get healthier and save the world!

valkyrie22   September 8th, 2010 4:08 pm ET

Boycott/Divest/Sanction Israel; best companies to boycott; Starbucks; Nestle; Sarah Lee; Dead Sea Products; Coca Cola; Sprite; Nokia ; Jarrow dietary supplements ; Banana Republic; Teva Pharma(generic drugs); Dannon yogurt; Cadbury's chocolate; Do it today. bring our troops home!

valkyrie22   September 8th, 2010 4:14 pm ET

It is quite shocking to read the level of outright ignorance and chutzpah on this blog trying to defend the Israeli Propaganda machine by/ through false criticism of Time-Warner, a well known Zionist Propaganda tool. Not very cool.

Moshe   September 8th, 2010 4:15 pm ET

Israel is a great example of how the U.S. is able to configure villages in the middle of blazing storms such as Iraq. It is the obvious model or choice to use for the "Green Zone" – the little city built in the middle of hell just for the fun of it. As long as Israel is anchored by the biggest, baddest and most corrupt nation and military in the world, we can do what we please. Why should we make any excuses for wanting to get rid of the troublemakers. Once they are gone, we will own the southern tip of Asia. Though this may not happen this century, and we can limit the number of power based religions to two. That should be the focus of all those who love this expression of "democracy," the way Bush and Obama planned it.

Moshe   September 8th, 2010 4:16 pm ET

Israeli Woman September 7th, 2010 8:08 pm ET

"How dare this author speak for us or about us Israelis"

Actually, if you read the piece, he is simply quoting from Israelis?

Moshe   September 8th, 2010 4:22 pm ET

Though I have yet to have the pleasure of meeting anyone willing to be actually honest about this, from the diaspora I mean, many of us Israelis actually favor being forthright with our feelings about the settlements and treatment of the people we are displacing. We are the victors, we retain the spoils. There is no reason to look back or to placate Hillary. Sure Obama is putting pressure on her, but we bought and paid for her years ago. You think they end up with hundreds of millions since they left the White House without us? Soon, we will all be gifted with the right to call ourselves the keeper of the land and Jerusalem too. Now quit trying to re-write things and cancel those Holocaust cards and shows. We don't need them anymore. We have learned from the West. Be proud of this genocide and quit with the Western guilt.

Moshe   September 8th, 2010 4:24 pm ET

Juan batch September 8th, 2010 6:41 am ET

" Anyone who thinks the residense of Isreal only care about money and are ignoring the Palistinians has a crippled mind."

That's a pretty racist statement even for CNN?

Smith in Oregon   September 8th, 2010 10:48 pm ET

Israel's IDF (defense forces) reminds me of a puffed up bully, flushed with success and operating on the illusion of unlimited conquests, further one-sided victories and absolutely no reason to even consider the consequences of stopping.

That thinking of such pride comes before the sudden realization of a very large fall. Israel's present hyper-expensive military weapons and hardware is largely built on the backs of the American people who are becoming ever more reluctant to give any further Billions of free American taxpayer cash to Israel whatsoever.

Israel is largely lacking any natural resources whereas it's Arabic neighbors who they treat like utter trash have far more natural resources which they could use to greatly build up their Arabic nations via a arm's buildup across the Middle East region, further isolating Israel as China and Russia makes ever greater inroads thru-out the Middle Eastern Arabic nations.

Perhaps when the people of Israel including the Israeli IDF realizes they have built a fragile house of cards, they'll actively engage in peace talks in a callous self-serving effort to salvage the little they have and the little they'll ever have in the future.

Ariely   September 9th, 2010 7:39 am ET

!!!! Some commentators claim – Israeli Apartheid ???

Part 1: Compare Israel and Arabs/Iran by apartheid definition
Part 2: Compare Jewish and Arab contribution to anti apartheid
--
Definition:
Apartheid is a policy that institutionalized separation and differential status of racially defined
-–
PART 1
In Israel
– Despite being under nonstop Arabs and recently Iran attacks for over 80 years (Unprecedented in modern history):
Israel doesn’t treat their Arab citizens similar to UK and USA: Remember what UK has done with UK citizens of German origin and USA with Americans citizens of Japanese origin on WW2
Status in Israel:

All citizens are:
- Equal by low–Full political rights – Universal Human rights –Protect religious freedom –Citizens express freely –Women equality–Social rights equality–Share equally all public infrastructures

Status in Arab countries and Iran

*Iran- more than 200 gays have been executed

*Syria- Based on the Arab dhimma low Syria imposed -red marked ' Jew" identity cards-word JEW to be displayed on shops-could not obtain driver's license, telephone, sell or buy property-( what historical memrories are asociated to those lows?)

* Christians are being persecuted not only in Iraq, but in most Arab countries, regardless of their numbers there. They are subjected to every possible kind of discrimination, as well as expulsion. Today, this problem is also rampant in Egypt, Lebanon, Algeria, and Palestine

*Arabs volunteered to Nazi army -approximately 40.000 in Balkan divisions

*Example of Iran policy to non Islamic religions:
Teachers were convicted of the crime of teaching Bahai religion and hanged up

* Jordan low of punishing by death the ones sailing land to Jew

* Sudan- tens of thousands of Cristians slaves have been set free after Christian charity organizations played $ to the slave owners

*Iran Women lows:
-Virgin women to be executed is raped by a guard ahead execution
-A husband can kill his adulterous wife without punishment while a woman is punishable by death

* Saudi Arabis gender apartheid

* Abd Al-Bari 'Atwan, interview aired on BBC Arabic TV on November 7, 2008:
In an Arab Country, OBAMA WOULD BE TOLD "YOU ARE A SALVE

- Part 2

Examples of Jewish anti apartheid actions:

*Helen Suzman a SA Jew for 13 years the only MP to condemn apartheid was twice-nominated for Nobel Peace Prize SA leaders said that they owed her an enormous debt in the struggle against apartheid

* Jews Goodman and Schwerner and a black Chaney, civil rights working to register black voters -
MURDERED IN MISSIPPI BY MEMBERS OF THE KU KUX KLAN 1964

*Rabbi Gendler of Great Barrington -JAILED 1962 IN ALABNLY WITH MARTIN LUTHER KING for protesting segregation practices

Examples of Arabs /Iran anti apartheid actions:

Sorry- I couldn't find any example!!!!!!

John A   September 9th, 2010 12:30 pm ET

A frame work for peace in the middle east has already been established.

In July 2004 the international court defined Israels occupation of Palestinian land as illegal. The settlements are illegal, the Gaza wall and blockade are illegal and Israels actions which have supported illegal settlements since 1967 can be defined as war crimes and crimes against humanity.

The panel of leading judges who sat on the international court voted and unanimously declared Israels actions as illegal. Many of those judges were Jewish and even one was a holocaust survivor. So there are no anti Semitic excuses Israel can make about the body of the court.

International law has made a clear announcement. Who defies this law? Only Israel with the support of America. Apply the law and we don't even need peace talks.

Under International law, Israels argument is not just with Palestine it is with the entire international community with the exception of America politicians.( though the American judge on the International court also declared Israels actions as illegal and against the Geneva convention)

Also under international law, no country has or must recognize Israel as a Jewish state. To claim a land is Jewish would of course be prejudice against all non Jews. Religion is a free choice not to be forced upon anyone! Actually most Israelis are not even practicing Jews. So why did Binyamin Netanyahu state that Palestinians must accept Israel as a Jewish state when no other country must do this? Because Netanyahu like all Israeli leaders before him only offer totally unrealistic peace deals, knowing that no Palestinian can accept and hence the troubles will continue and Israel can expand.

So lets just be realistic for one moment. Israel doesn't need to find a peace solution because Israel does not pay for its own military protection. Israel can provoke and break laws and America will foot the bill. America doesn't need to respect the international court, because nobody has the power at this point in history to force America to comply. Laws need to be enforced with guns and nobody wants to shake a gun at America.

Therefore the Israel/US alliance and defiance of international law goes on and no amount of peace talks will change this. The only change will occur when America awakens with moral consciousness and abandons its policy of funding Israels illegal actions. But how can America awaken to facts when its media is owned and dictated to by Zionist Jews? Americans are manipulated by their media, so how will they ever discover a moral conscious?

When Israelis need to fund their own ambitions of expanding territories through illegal settlements, then the debate will rise to correct proportions in Israel and peace will come. How many Israelis will stomach a massive tax increase to pay for illegal settlements? Not many, but at the moment they don't need to, as America subsidies Israel. Until Israel takes full financial responsibility for itself, peace talks remain merely a way for academics to pass time as nothing practical can possibly change.

For adult like peace talks to begin in Israel society, Israelis must first discuss how much of their own income they are prepared to invest in Israels current position. Such an adult like debate has not even started in Israel as Israelis know they can rely on American funds. Therefore we can say the TIME article makes a fair point as Israeli discussions on peace should be practical and not mere academic entertainment with no connection with reality.

proud zionist   September 9th, 2010 3:26 pm ET

Valkyriee 22

and don't forget to throw away you computer (centrino and pentium chips developed by Intel Israel). As for Teva, tell multiple sclerosis sufferers who are on Copaxone, or for that matter on Rebif (Merck Serono) to stop taking these medicines developed in Israel. And cancer victims taking Erbiyux should boycott the drug. And do not use your disk on key anymore, it was invented in Israel.

Stand to your words, nitwit, boycott everything developed in Israel (not to forget the important components in your cell phone).

And for your information, ignoramaus, I cancelled my Time subscription years ago, I do boycott antisemites!

Philip Honig   September 10th, 2010 12:03 am ET

I will never purchase another issue of time(note smal t) magazine again.

Ariely   September 10th, 2010 4:41 am ET

!!!! Some commentators claim – Israeli Apartheid ???

Part 1: Compare Israel and Arabs/Iran by apartheid definition
Part 2: Compare Jewish and Arab contribution to anti apartheid

Definition:
Apartheid is a policy that institutionalized separation and differential status of racially defined
-–
PART 1
In Israel
– Despite being under nonstop Arabs and recently Iran attacks for over 80 years (Unprecedented in modern history):
Israel doesn’t treat their Arab citizens similar to UK and USA: Remember what UK has done with UK citizens of German origin and USA with Americans citizens of Japanese origin on WW2

Status in Israel:
All citizens are:
- Equal by low–Full political rights – Universal Human rights –Protect religious freedom –Citizens express freely –Women equality–Social rights equality–Share equally all public infrastructures

Status in Arab countries and Iran
*Iran- more than 200 gays have been executed
*Syria- Based on the Arab dhimma low Syria imposed -red marked ' Jew" identity cards-word JEW to be displayed on shops-could not obtain driver's license, telephone, sell or buy property-( what historical memrories are asociated to those lows?)
* Christians are being persecuted not only in Iraq, but in most Arab countries, regardless of their numbers there. They are subjected to every possible kind of discrimination, as well as expulsion. Today, this problem is also rampant in Egypt, Lebanon, Algeria, and Palestine
*Arabs volunteered to Nazi army -approximately 40.000 in Balkan divisions
*Example of Iran policy to non Islamic religions:
Teachers were convicted of the crime of teaching Bahai religion and hanged up
* Jordan low of punishing by death the ones sailing land to Jew
* Sudan- tens of thousands of Cristians slaves have been set free after Christian charity organizations played $ to the slave owners
*Iran Women lows:
-Virgin women to be executed is raped by a guard ahead execution
-A husband can kill his adulterous wife without punishment while a woman is punishable by death
* Saudi Arabis gender apartheid
* Abd Al-Bari 'Atwan, interview aired on BBC Arabic TV on November 7, 2008:
In an Arab Country, OBAMA WOULD BE TOLD "YOU ARE A SALVE

– Part 2
Examples of Jewish anti apartheid actions:
*Helen Suzman a SA Jew for 13 years the only MP to condemn apartheid was twice-nominated for Nobel Peace Prize SA leaders said that they owed her an enormous debt in the struggle against apartheid
* Jews Goodman and Schwerner and a black Chaney, civil rights working to register black voters -
MURDERED IN MISSIPPI BY MEMBERS OF THE KU KUX KLAN 1964
*Rabbi Gendler of Great Barrington -JAILED 1962 IN ALABNLY WITH MARTIN LUTHER KING for protesting segregation practices

Examples of Arabs /Iran anti apartheid actions:
0-0-–0--–0-–0 -(Zero examples)
Sorry- I couldn't find any example!!!!!!

Filipe   September 10th, 2010 11:20 am ET

John A:

Your continued whining and non-stop rantings about how all the Israeli policies are only possible because of US funding is quite humorous-–but really old and tired !!!

It's really amazing how you can possibly think that anyone with a brain will believe that nonsnese.

You know very well that 100% of the US aid sent to Irael is spent in the US with US companies-- Zero % of any US aid is used for subsidies to support settlement development.

Explain please-- "July 2004 the international court"-–exactly what international court???? Can you cite a link to their ruling which supports your rhetorical ranting???~

And please-–"the Gaza wall and blockade are illegal"-– ha ha ha ha ha !!!!! Who on earth do think is going to beleive that it is illegal for Israel to create a secure border around the State of Israel and control ingress and egrees ????

Yolu are simply nothing more than someone who thrives on non-stop whinning and complaining.

Get a life !!

John A   September 10th, 2010 3:46 pm ET

Filipe you are certainly dumb enough to believe yourself.

Here is a link to the International Criminal Court

http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/131/1677.pdf

This is one of many links condemning Israel.

Filipe your arrogant, uneducated, lame brain routine may be good enough for you, but you remain wrong as usual.

Will CNN be big enough to promote truth and post my reply?

John A   September 10th, 2010 4:00 pm ET

Filipe as your obviously too lazy to read and get an education, please allow me to highlight one of many chapters which the international court blasts Israels totally illegal behavior:

The Court notes that the route of the wall as fixed by the Israeli Government includes within the “Closed Area” (i.e. the part of the West Bank lying between the Green Line and the wall) some
80 per cent of the settlers living in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, and has been traced in such a way as to include within that area the great majority of the Israeli settlements in the Occupied
Palestinian Territory (including East Jerusalem). The information provided to the Court shows that, since 1977, Israel has conducted a policy and developed practices involving the establishment
of settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, contrary to the terms of Article 49, paragraph 6, of the Fourth Geneva Convention which provides: “The Occupying Power shall not
deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.” The Security Council has taken the view that such policy and practices “have no legal validity” and constitute a
“flagrant violation” of the Convention. The Court concludes that the Israeli settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (including East Jerusalem) have been established in breach of international law.

ONE OF THE REASONS AMERICANS SUPPORT THE CRIMINAL STATE OF ISRAEL, IS THEY ARE TOO DUMB TO KNOW ANY BETTER. THE JOB OF THE MEDIA IS TO EDUCATE IN FACTS. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE CNN?????AMERICANS DON'T EVEN KNOW WHEN THEY SUPPORT ISRAEL; THEY SUPPORT CRIMINALS. HOW DOES THAT HELP YOUR WAR ON TERROR???????????????

Cathy Weinger   September 11th, 2010 2:18 pm ET

Time magazine and CNN should be ashamed of themselves. Since the miraculous creation of the tiny democratic nation of Israel, she has been under attacks from her huge Arab neighbors, the terroists that they fund, the United Nations and anti-semitic bigots. Since it's creation, Israel has sacrificed her most precious asset, her children, to protect her right to exist. Does the author of this shameful article think that no Israeli has the right to attempt a normal life? The people who eat at a restaurant or sit on the beach once protected their country as soldiers when they were teenagers. These same people send their teenagers into the military today. I am seriously considering refraining from watching CNN.

JakeInLA   September 11th, 2010 8:02 pm ET

It's in Time magazine and out there in World's media for years – this is as clear as it can get – still so many people in the US are refusing to see the truths about Israel.

Smith in Oregon   September 11th, 2010 9:07 pm ET

Statement by Shulamit Aloni – the former Education Minister of Israel. 'In the past, the US Jewish community leaders were quite familiar with the meaning of those conventions. For some reason, however, they are convinced that Israel is allowed to contravene them. It's OK to kill civilians, women and children, old people and parents with their children, deliberately or otherwise without accepting any responsibility. It's permissible to rob people of their lands, destroy their crops, and cage them up like animals in the zoo. From now on, Israelis and International humanitarian organisations' volunteers are prohibited from assisting a woman in labour by taking her to the hospital. [Israeli human rights group] Yesh Din volunteers cannot take a robbed and beaten-up Palestinian to the police station to lodge a complaint. (Police stations are located at the heart of the settlements.) Is there anyone who believes that this is not Apartheid?'

Yes, There is Apartheid in Israel and even the Israeli Minister of Education knows it exists, it is time for Americans to accept that fact and cut off all funding to Israel, boycott all Israeli services and business's just as Americans did to South Africa.

Joseph Ganz   September 12th, 2010 5:34 am ET

This article is truly anti-semitic. It is insenitive, and equals the stupity like the recent burning incident. This could have the same effect to create unrest, and possibly more voilence in this troubled area. This is like shoutng fire in a crowded theatre, when there is no fire. I will cancel our suscription to this magazine, and I ask all intelligent and senitive people to do the same.

thinkingprevails   September 12th, 2010 8:26 pm ET

The Author of theTime magazine article fails to take into consideration the fundalmental problems that exist if the Muslim/Arab/Islamics are successful with their impearialistic evengalistic agenda. The Arabs which have tried to exercise their Jihad against Israel from the outside with wars have expanded their terrorism throughout the world using the Palestinian oppression as their cause de jour. The Palestinians in Israel enjoy the highest standard of living compared with Palestinians living in Muslim controlled Countries. Now the Arabs thru Hamas has infiltrated tiny Israel is trying to exercise its self proclaimed destruction and annihilation but from within the very Country in which it wants its Statehood. If the Arabs and Muslims get their wish do you think they will stop with Israel? Their Jihads are being conducted in all corners of the world and all freedom loving people need to take heed. In every Muslim Controlled Country there is no Internet access and if there is, it is severly censored. Under Muslim Control by religious zealots the anti Israel posters here do not realize but they too would be forced to give up their right to voice their oppinions freely as they do here and if they did heads would role as dissidents of the religous zealots. The anti Israel posters here are risking their own unalienable basic human rights if in the future if the Arab/Muslims/Islamics are able to first convert Israel to the 46th Muslim Controlled Country as Israel is a sister country of the USA. Israel is the only pluralistic Country with 2 million practising Muslims of a population of only 7.5 million people in the Middle East. Like the USA israel has time and time again earned its Statehood. Israel is the only Country practising the same freedoms for human rights in the Middle East as we do in the United States. The USA and all freedom loving Countries must fully support Israel our last bastion of hope in such a hostile land.

Evan   September 13th, 2010 4:02 am ET

Let's see ... The far right has that hillbilly minister in Florida getting his 15 minutes of fame and and saving his church (albeit briefly) from deserved insignifigance by reckless, incendiary attacks on Muslims. And the far left has Time Magazine.

xmax   September 13th, 2010 1:48 pm ET

WOW! What an impressive figure: 8% of Israelis care of the Palestinian conflict!! When to only 4% of US citizens the war in Iraq/Afghanistan matters them!
In a recent US Poll undertook by CBS, when asked “what is the most important problem facing America?” Americans volunteered: The Economy 49% Health Care 8% Budget Deficit 4% Wars: Afghanistan and Iraq 4% Big Government 2% Immigration 1% (Apr 27, 2010: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20003551-503544.html) Following this poll, it would seem Americans are callous war mongers who care about their own jobs and health well above the wars they’re actively involved in which have been killed hundreds of thousands!.

xmax   September 13th, 2010 1:57 pm ET

"Instead of pining for peace, [Israelis are] now asking: who needs it? ... Tourism hit a 10-year high in 2008. Astonishingly, the I.M.F. projected recently that Israel’s G.D.P. will grow faster in 2010 than that of most other developed countries. In short, Israelis are enjoying a peace dividend without a peace agreement." – Thomas Friedman (27 March 2010)/// Right here is what the ADL is complaining about.
Israelis are more concerned with making accusations of anti-semitism than they are about ending their occupation and making peace. LOL!

Hadi   September 13th, 2010 10:20 pm ET

It amazing to see how organised the Israeli PR machine is. the second an article against them surfaces they attack. Most of the replies below and probably the ones still to come are very organised and systematic. the steps are simple, 1. discredit the author, 2. show Israel and the Israeli people as victims, 3. show Israel as the peace loving nation.. 4. 5. 6. etc.. the theme is easy to recognise after a while.

The good thing is that the PR Machine is failing.. the world is, slowly but surely, seeing Israel for what it is. A country based on lies. built on murders, genocide and killing of the innocent. Israel will never have peace and is doomed if it continues on its path.

John A   September 14th, 2010 7:50 am ET

Hadi, its true but only because American media is largly owned by Jews. In non Jewish owned media it actually possible to have a free and fair debate about Israel. But obviously freedoms on certain issues dont exist in America.

Also we have to cope with deluded Christians such as Cathy Weinger, who's earlier comments on this blog are inspired by biblical fables such as David and Goliath. She feels that if she supports little David she will be closer to God. But modern reality could not be further from the truth. Little David has a more powerful military than all Arab states combined thanks to Cathy & cos American taxes. At no point in Israels history has it ever been in serious danger. Yes Israel is a small land mass, what's that got to do with power? Britain is a small land mass, but once had the largest empire in history. Saying little Israel winning against all those big Arab countries is like saying little England empire surviving against all those big African states. i.e. totally stupid comment, but it does make fake and vain Christians inflate themselves with pride to think they are helping poor little David to fight Goliath. But at some point we must remember David does not have the right to illigally occupy Goliaths home. As Davids criminal actions means he has turned his back on God, only anti Christians with no honesty in their hearts will support Israel.

miriam   September 14th, 2010 7:53 am ET

Hadi,

Keep dreaming!

Desemination of hate might be louder than rational, honest discussion, but Israel and the Jews are used to that and have survived centuries of the same false claims you propagate here.

miriam   September 15th, 2010 2:42 pm ET

John A,

The ICJ, which you so much respect, was unable to call the "occupation" illegal, despite all the other innaccurate political rhetoric it was able to irresponsibly use.

Until after the 1967 war, the US did not provide aid to Israel despite the fact Israel had fought at least 3 wars against armies intent on annihilating the Jewish state.

Not to forget that all those wars were fought before any supposed "occupation" or self-declared Palestinian nation.

John A   September 17th, 2010 8:35 am ET

Miriam are you on valium? The ICJ writes in black and white the occupation is illegal and Israeli settlements in occupied land are a flagrant breach of the Geneva convention.

So Miriam whats your problem? Valium or blind arrogance?

Filipe   September 20th, 2010 1:42 pm ET

John A,

You write-- "The ICJ writes in black and white the occupation is illegal and Israeli settlements in occupied land are a flagrant breach of the Geneva convention."

Can you please show us where ????

Or do you just think we will believe because YOU say so????

But then again--when confronted and asked for evidence-– you continue to ignore and evade the questions--because you have no answers!

roy   July 7th, 2011 3:47 am ET

in the last 25 years, i have never heard of a jew, italian, greek, frenchy,scot, spaniard, –a long list it goes on and on– of walking into a house of worship, a restaurant, a plane, a crowd etc etc and blowing himsel or herslf up and killing innocent people just to "prove a point". i have heard of countless, muslims and their related brethern creating havoc all over the world not to mention putting out death threats to those who dare call their precious leader a "bum" in so many words for want of a better term. Finally, i never heard of anyone except a muslim or any of their relaed brethern treating females like property or slaves and stoning them. I must join this wonderful peaceful religion with its great holy trash book of hatred "preached" by a pervert who had an 8 year old for a wife.


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