CNN TV
SCHEDULE ANCHORS REPORTERS CONTACT US
Inside the Middle East
January 21, 2009
Posted: 1642 GMT

WASHINGTON (CNN) - President Barack Obama placed several calls to leaders across the Middle East Wednesday morning, a senior administration official said, hitting the ground running in an unstable region of the world that has consumed several past U.S. administrations.

In his first calls to world leaders since becoming president, Obama phoned Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, Jordan's King Abdullah, Egyptian President Hosni Mubarack, and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert.

The president is expected by many political observers to appoint a special Middle East envoy within the next few days or weeks.

Filed under: Obama


Share this on:
Fawad Ali   January 21st, 2009 4:53 pm ET

Let's hope for the best

CS   January 21st, 2009 4:56 pm ET

It will take the president some time to fix the mess that previous leaders have made, but it seems that he has good intentions. I like that he said he would extend a hand to other nations if they were willing to unclech their fist. I also like what he said about terrorists. He did not specify any group. He simply said "terrorists" in general.
Hopefully, he can order media organizations to stop reporting propaganda, and start reporting fair, unbiased news. Whishfull thinking, but there's still hope for FOX.

Solomon   January 21st, 2009 4:57 pm ET

I am not optimistic about the Obama administration.
probably the Zionist Lobby in the US already have things against him to threaten him in the future.
obama is not going to be a war monger like bush that is about it.

Fawad Ali   January 21st, 2009 4:59 pm ET

We need strategy to win, not to give up......Iran is a threat......Gaza is completely ruined ......Iraq is dangerous, Saudi Arabia is rich and Israel is powerful......It's time to act intelligently

Fawad Ali   January 21st, 2009 5:02 pm ET

Obama is different, try him before reject him......But again, Arabs should expect from their own leaders, not from others........

CS   January 21st, 2009 5:06 pm ET

Hala. I am happy to see getting straight to work. A different approach than past ones, is necessary to mend the problems of the Middle East. If we win the people, they will turn against these secular groups, in return for better conditions, and better lives. A helping hand with infrastructure, education, economic, and agricultural growth would surely keep moral high, and the likelihood of agression to at least subcide.

Saudi   January 21st, 2009 5:11 pm ET

Obama, Our president, the president of the world!
1. Mr. President, you promised you will put an end to the lobbyists influence in the way the US is run.

2. Mr. President, we outside the US are also hoping for the changes you promised.

3. Mr. President, the Middle East policy is the first crying for the change, unless your promises exclude the Jewish lobbyists.

4. Mr. President, the cost is high and the human suffering and miseries are unbearable and only getting worse and worse.

5. Mr. President, we want you to see closely for us also and not just seeing us through the Israeli binoculars.

6. Mr. President, make the USA to be good at EARNING FRIENDS and not as it was good at making enemies.

7. Mr. President, the key to your success on this is being Just and fair and TREATING ALL AS HUMAN WITH THE SAME FEELINGS AND SPECIAL NEEDS.

8. Mr. President, U.S. successes and failure effect us outside the US too, US discoveries and inventions helped us too, and we feel the admiration and gratefulness to America, Our Islam teachings tell us " whom they don’t thank people don't thank Allah".

9. Thank you America for the good things you gave to us and the world.

10. America, think of the suffering put-upon us by supporting the continuing Israelis occupation and settlements buildup.

CS   January 21st, 2009 5:13 pm ET

Fawad. I really like what you said. All of it. I just think (or hope) that Iran will not need to war monger if they don't feel threatened all the time by the U.S. I believe Obama is smarter than are. And I think he has a better way to approach these issues than the stubborness that some exhibit. I am often reminded that some people are like crabs in a barrel. They don't want things to go well. They even root for them to go poorly, so they can have something to comlain about.

CS   January 21st, 2009 5:16 pm ET

Saudi. I see you're in a thankful mood. Since you want to "thank" us for what we have done. Maybe we should "thank" you for sending those hijackers to committ the crime of 9/11. I'm sure the people of Iraq/Afghanistan are "thanking" you right now.

CS   January 21st, 2009 5:18 pm ET

And I'm so sick of people trying to put all the troubles of the world onto Obama, when he just got to office yesterday.
Maybe some of these whiners should ask their own leaders to stop pocketing the funds we give them, and start acting like leaders themselves. I would not sit home all day, then beg my neighbor for food for my children. I would get off my behind, be a man, and provide for my own.

Hunk   January 21st, 2009 5:29 pm ET

Mr. President why you chose to start with the most corrupted leader Abbas ? and ending with Ehud Olmert.the murder ? ? or is it because both of them are corrupted !!! and you will start with them first .... its toooooooo much .

benyemen   January 21st, 2009 5:31 pm ET

CS

FIRST I AM POSITIVELY SURE THE SAUDI GOVERNMENT DID NOT SEND THOSE GUYS TO BLOW UP THE TWIN TOWERS 9/11

SECOND YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE BEGING IT SHOULD STOP INCLUDING THE 15MIL MONTHLY TO THE ZIONISTS.

Saudi   January 21st, 2009 5:31 pm ET

cs,

We are thnakfull for the good things not for sending the israelis to occupay lands and bulding of setelemtns, put blockades on Gaza and finish that by killing our children and women and destroy homes and mosques.

benyemen   January 21st, 2009 5:34 pm ET

HUNK

YOU FORGOT SE HOSNI AND KING ABDULLAH THE 2ND WHAT ARE THEY?

benyemen   January 21st, 2009 5:36 pm ET

FAWAD ALI

WHY IRAN THREATENS YOU?

Hunk   January 21st, 2009 5:37 pm ET

Messio Benyemen

Dont shout, I want to hear you and listen to you ... yes I am listening

M Ariely   January 21st, 2009 5:39 pm ET

Ms Obama the chnage president pls find the way
A; TO UNITE WORLD CULTURES AND MUSLIM PEOPLE TO STAND FIRMALY AGAINST THS ISLAMIST WORLD CONQUEST DOCTRINE
and not only against :
TERROR WITCH IS A TACTICAL TOOL

1:Doctors know that diagnosing a disease by treating the symptoms(terror) is wrong
They are looking for the root cause (doctrines) and later treat it ending the disease and the symptoms
Hopefully enlighten world leaders in line with the CHANGE trend will find the way to united countries and Muslim people willing to resist the terror groups and supporting countries to act openly,nonstop until the doctrines will be defeated

2:Example of root causes doctrine

Muslim Brotherhood Website:Jihad Against Non-Muslims Is Obligatory Octr 7 2008
Posted articles by Dr. Ahmad 'Abd Al-Khaleq about Al-Walaa Wa'l-Baraa,

an Islamic doctrine which stipulates total rejection of non-Muslims and of Muslims who have strayed from the path of Islam
A Muslim can come closer to Allah by hating all non-Muslims – Christians, Jews, atheists, or polytheists – and by waging jihad against them in every possible manner

3:Example of symptom terror

Our Proposal for Tahdiah(Calm) Is Tactical

Hamas Leader Khaled Mash'al:
Al-Jazeera TV on April 25, 2008

Hamas and the will use the calm to grow stronger, in weapons and training, and the people will recover and prepare for the next round, because we are talking about a tactical (calm) tahdiah

benyemen   January 21st, 2009 5:40 pm ET

SAUDI

THE USA DIDN'T SEND THE ZIONISTS ITS THE UN AND BRITISH AND WHAT YOU THANK THEM OF THE GOOD THINGS WHAT ???CADDILACS --YOU PAY THEIR DOUBLE THE COST WITH YOUR OIL.

Chernor Jalloh   January 21st, 2009 5:42 pm ET

President Barack Hussein Obama's first telephone call to Middle East leaders are good,but he should have called any Hamas leader because they too are part and parcel of the Palestinians to see really if they can change the stance towards the Israelis.

In his inaugural speech on Tuesday President Obama never mentioned the Israelo-Palestine issue really raised some eyebrows,but thanks he made a call to day.I hope peace will come soon.Where his predecessor has failed may be he is going to achieve positive things as the days go by.

PS.Ladies and gentle men on this blog whether you agree with someone or not I wouldnot want to see people insulting eachother.We are all one family and harsh words shouldnot be used.Thanks everyone and I will be away for some time and hope you will discuss imporatant things while Iam away.My Beny Keep up the dialoque and never discourage.I hope to talk to you soon and goodbye for now.

benyemen   January 21st, 2009 5:45 pm ET

HUNK

CAPS LOCK FOR ME IS NOT SHOUTING, THATS THE WAY I WRITE SO IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN WITH THIS LETTERS OK, OTHERWISE SORRY FOR DISTURBING YOU.

benyemen   January 21st, 2009 5:51 pm ET

M ARIETY

EXAMPLE OF A ROOT CAUSES DOCTRINE:

OCCUPATION.......STUPID

benyemen   January 21st, 2009 5:55 pm ET

CHERNON JALLOH

I AM IN ACCEPTANCE WITH YOUR COMMENT

RIIING RIIING WHY NO CALL TO HAMAS LEADERS IF THERE IS CHANGE TO COME?

AND YOUR COMMENT TO BENY TOO IS PERFECT.

Hunk   January 21st, 2009 5:57 pm ET

benyemen, Yes, all are corrupted, I think thats whats the meaning of being in the middle east , I wish this thing really change.

I just heard on France 24 Arabic TV, that the white house started a blog as i means of communication, and part of the change as promised by Obama.

benyemen   January 21st, 2009 6:16 pm ET

HUNK

LETS NOT PUT SO HIGH LEVELS OF EXPECTATIONS, FROM THIS NEW USA ADMINISTRATION WHICH PROMISES CHANGE EVERYWHERE, BECAUSE LOOKING AT THE TEAM INCLUDING (HILLARY, RAHM EMANUEL, THE SAME WARMONGER) WE MIGHT BREAK OUR NECKS DOING THAT!!!!

benyemen   January 21st, 2009 6:27 pm ET

GUYS DO YOU THINK OBAMA MIGHT TAKE SOME ADVICE FROM MR. NELSON MANDELA ABOUT THE ZIONISTS/PALESTINIAN ARABS ISSUES:

“We consider ourselves to be comrades in arms to the Palestinian Arabs in their struggle for the liberation of Palestine. There is not a single citizen in South Africa who is not ready to stand by his Palestinian brothers in their legitimate fight against the Zionist racists.” — Nelson Mandela

Hunk   January 21st, 2009 6:39 pm ET

benyemen,

No one worse than Bush, who at least believed that its god wish and gods provides to help Israel that will be there as the strongest man on the world at least for the coming four years.

His call to Abbas may summarize that he is putting some kind of priority to the Arab central issue .

Obama addressing the Muslim World and looking forward to mutual benefit and respect also signifies some change... u may say that Bush was the first to talk of a two sate solution .... but later on he changed and talked of " who with us and who is not with us" .

The world is going head on to a deep recession and we really needs and so desperate to have some time at least without war, economy is a very important thing otherwise my life saving and yours too will vibrate on the air in case if the American Dollar start to shake .... god forbid ... its very devastating ... this is not the forum for business buts a thought I think deserve to mention.

Mashaal on TV now... give me some time ...

Roscoe   January 21st, 2009 6:52 pm ET

Chernor Jalloh January 21st, 2009 1742 GMT

President Barack Hussein Obama’s first telephone call to Middle East leaders are good,but he should have called any Hamas leader because they too are part and parcel of the Palestinians to see really if they can change the stance towards the Israelis.

**********************************************************************

Here's why !!!!

Obama-Asked by the New York Times whether Israel should negotiate with Hamas in Gaza, he replied, “I don't think any country would find it acceptable to have missiles raining down on the heads of their citizens. The first job of any nation state is to protect its citizens. If somebody was sending rockets into my house where my two daughters sleep at night, I'm going to do everything in my power to stop that. And I would expect Israelis to do the same thing. In terms of negotiations with Hamas, it is very hard to negotiate with a group that is not representative of a nation state, does not recognize your right to exist, has consistently used terror as a weapon, and is deeply influenced by other countries. I think that Hamas leadership will have to make a decision at some point as to whether it is a serious political party seeking to represent the aspirations of the Palestinian people. And, as a consequence, willing to recognize Israel's right to exist and renounce violence as a tool to achieve its aims, Or whether it wants to continue to operate as a terrorist organization. Until that point, it's hard for Israel, to negotiate with a country that, or with a group that doesn't recognize Israel's right to exist."

Plain and simple!!

GLeigh   January 21st, 2009 6:52 pm ET

If anyone is interested in a citizen's opinion, one not really into politics but in humanity, here it is. I think people here want peace. I think they want the country of Israel to exist, not be wiped off the map or exterminated like in Darfur. I think people love the rich culture of the Muslim world and realize there are creative people who want to build and do good and destroyers who want to blow things up like during 911, Hopefully the creative people can all work together so that answers are found for a very long peace. No country existing is perfect or blameless of infractions. Finger pointing is a waste of energy. The world economy does need to be a priority, but also the citizens of Gaza and of Israel. My two cents. Taking an ironing break. Not my fav job.

GLeigh   January 21st, 2009 6:53 pm ET

Got to get back to it. Later.

benyemen   January 21st, 2009 6:57 pm ET

I AM WATCHING TOO, THANKS FOR UNDERSTANDING AND ACCEPTING MY CAPS LOCK, HUNK.

GOODNIGHT TO ALL ANTI OCCUPATION AND HORRIBLE DREAMS FOR PRO OCCUPATION OF OUR BELOVED PALESTINE.

Beny   January 21st, 2009 7:36 pm ET

Well, good luck to him. If he can achieve what so many people tried before him...

Anyway, I think Iran and the crisis are his biggest jobs now. He's US President, not a middle-east ambassador. USA's rampant capitalism and Iran's war waged on the West through terrorism are the biggest issues here, and anyway I doubt he can achieve much here until the Palestinians elect and support a cooperative, pragmatic leadership that cares about them (instead of a bunch of terroristic thugs). There is only so much even a good-willing president can do without cooperation.

I hope he has the guts to stand up to Iran.

And here's a farewell to Bush, who did some smart things in the stupidest way possible, but you still have my respect.

Hunk   January 21st, 2009 7:55 pm ET

CS,

Take it easy brother ...

I.B. Wright   January 21st, 2009 8:28 pm ET

C.S- How are ya? I know you have been fair and objective on this whole issue and I agree that Mr. Obama should be given a chance to perform. However, you have to understand that one or two bad apples don't spoil the whole box. I felt like venting many times at the comments I received from some of the supporters of the jewish side, mainly because no-mater what I said, I was a jew-hating terrorist. After trying several times to explain my that all I wanted was for innocent women and children to be left out of any war, anywhere and that I wasn't a jew hater, they still call me that. They also equate all Arabs with terrorists, with Hamas , with Al Queda, with Extremist Muslims just as Bush did with Iraq, knowing dam well wasn't true. So I decided, what the hell, I've been called a lot worse things (and it gives me a reason to lay a little smack on their asses once in a while) these people's opinions really don't matter.

Edan Stav, Israel   January 21st, 2009 8:54 pm ET

I hope that Mr. Obama, I will be very involved in the region. That he will work for peace in the region, promoting two- states solution, peace between Israel and Syria. And bring security for Israel, and better life for the Palestinians.

dan perman   January 21st, 2009 8:57 pm ET

The Israel air force demolished two key Hamas war systems in the first 4 minutes of its massive offensive on Gaza Saturday morning, Dec. 27, The bombers destroyed six mosques in Gaza City which held the terrorists' biggest weapons arsenals and scores of "beehives" containing launchers primed for the simultaneous, automatic release of hundreds of powerful rockets against Israeli cities.

These launchers were rigged for precision-targeting in Israeli town centers. They were operated by a unit of 300 special Hamas operatives trained for their mission at a Syrian military bases under the instruction of Hizballah rocket specialists.

The aerial offensive knocked out 80 percent of the rockets Hamas had prepared to launch and saved Israel's southern cities. The Palestinian Islamists were left only with inferior projectiles. Therefore, 98 percent of the hundreds of missiles they managed to fire in the 22-day war missed their targets and exploded in open ground.

Answering questions about the extreme destruction wrought in Gaza and the high number of casualties – more than 1,300 – Israel commanders described combat conditions as the most complicated they had ever faced: Every second apartment building was booby-trapped and every third building concealed arms caches. Weapons were concealed under children's beds and in basements. Inside of fighting out in the open, Hamas gunmen by and large avoided engaging Israeli troops, relying on these death traps.

Monday, Jan. 19, the second day of the ceasefire, the second-echelon of the Hamas leadership emerged from their fortified bunkers after three weeks underground, claiming they had vanquished the Israeli enemy. The top leaders remained invisible. The homeless people picking their way through the rubble for their broken possessions were not exactly welcoming

dan perman   January 21st, 2009 8:59 pm ET

what does HAMAS stand for:

H ide
A mong
M osques
A nd
S chools

Chris   January 21st, 2009 8:59 pm ET

I always wonder what the ME would be like if the roles were reversed. If there were 500 million Jews and 5 million Arabs in the Middle East (the opposite of the way it is now). The Jews would set up committees to help feed the Arabs, give them land, money and generally promote peace. The Arabs are intolerant of all men, even themselves. They hate like nobody's business.

Shame the roles are not reversed.

Bill   January 21st, 2009 9:03 pm ET

CS -

Good for you! I respect what you wrote. Now this sounds like it is coming from a Christian. Don't hate people because of where they are from. Don't hate people because they are Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddists, or whatever. Base your opinions on the content of a person's character and their actions. Don't hate because you don't know any other way. Don't hate others for what you think their forefathers did to your forefathers before you were born. There will never be peace that way. If one keeps looking backwards, one will never see the opportunities right in front of you, let alone the promises of the future.

Thanks

CS   January 21st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

I.B. Wright. You are correct. And I can be man enough to appologize to anyone who did not deserve the comments that I made. However, I have come accross some intolerant, hate filled people, from both sides, and will always be real, and true. I DO mean what I previously said to ANYone, who judges a mass, or nation, or race, or religion of people, based upon the actions of a few. We must have patients, tolerance, and humility for other people, and UNDERSTAND that the acts, of leaders, do not always relate to the hearts of the people. In, my opinion, in Obam's case, the majority of people in America chose someone who appears, and has proven to have good and noble intentions.

Bill. You and I have disagreed on many things in the past, and my position has not changed. But I agree on not hating people based on what religion they are, and thus and so. I am happy we see eye to eye on this. This blog is about moving forward. It's hard to do that if people are wishing, hoping and praying for you to fall, or miss the mark. And that's what the haters do. I could see if Obama did some of the things that got us here, but he has not. And if he does wrong by my country, I will condemn his actions just as I did Bushs' for the last 8 years. But if he does even half of what he said he would, he'll still be the best this country has seen in a long time.

I.B. Wright   January 21st, 2009 9:29 pm ET

C.S.- hey, we all need to rant once in a while. Personaly I am excited about Obama as the new president. I think his logic and intelligence will serve him well and most of the world is happy to see the change. Hopefully he will live up to the hype -I'm pretty optimistic that he will.

Solomon   January 21st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country.”
– David Ben Gurion,

Solomon   January 21st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

“There is no such thing as a Palestinian people… It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn’t exist.”
– Golda Meir, statement to The Sunday Times, 15 June, 1969.

“How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to.”
– Golda Meir, March 8, 1969.

is it any surprise that the pro Israeli here are denying facts too?

Solomon   January 21st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

“The settlement of the Land of Israel is the essence of Zionism. Without settlement, we will not fulfill Zionism. It’s that simple.”

– Yitzhak Shamir, Maariv, 02/21/1997

Professor   January 21st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Hey good fellas,

I am back.... :)

Its the occupation stupid.

Solomon   January 21st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

“If we thought that instead of 200 Palestinian fatalities, 2,000 dead would put an end to the fighting at a stroke, we would use much more force…
.”
– Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, quoted in Associated Press, November 16, 2000.

mahmoud jboor   January 21st, 2009 10:34 pm ET

president obama...well done , although we believe that us people interests come first ..its important also to clean past admin. mess by adressing hot issues around the world...we want peace, security, prosperity to all and US as the major democratic leader of the world must act as honest broker ...US support to israel should have a limits on the basis of logic , moral ,and the safety of our globe...

good luck mr. president and we want 8 years not 4 ..!!!!!!!!

mahmoud jboor   January 21st, 2009 10:47 pm ET

AJ
solomon
professor
mohommad g......

god bless and thanks for your stand ....

its the occupation stupid.......

Solomon   January 21st, 2009 10:54 pm ET

Robert Fisk: Why do they hate the West so much, we will ask

Wednesday, 7 January 2009

So once again, Israel has opened the gates of hell to the Palestinians. Forty civilian refugees dead in a United Nations school, three more in another. Not bad for a night's work in Gaza by the army that believes in "purity of arms". But why should we be surprised?

Have we forgotten the 17,500 dead – almost all civilians, most of them children and women – in Israel's 1982 invasion of Lebanon; the 1,700 Palestinian civilian dead in the Sabra-Chatila massacre; the 1996 Qana massacre of 106 Lebanese civilian refugees, more than half of them children, at a UN base; the massacre of the Marwahin refugees who were ordered from their homes by the Israelis in 2006 then slaughtered by an Israeli helicopter crew; the 1,000 dead of that same 2006 bombardment and Lebanese invasion, almost all of them civilians?

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-why-do-they-hate-the-west-so-much-we-will-ask-1230046.html

Professor   January 21st, 2009 11:15 pm ET

Mahmoud,

Its nothing to be thanked for... its our duty and the duty of any decent human being.

Its the occupation stupid. :)

CS   January 21st, 2009 11:23 pm ET

I agree with Mohammad J. that Obama should take a different approach to Israel. They are our allies, but it would help if he says to Israel that if they don't stop this agression against Palestine, that they will get no more tanks, jets, or any military equipment. If we plan to lead by example, then we must show Israel that just because we have strong military capabilities, that doesn't mean ruling with an iron fist is the way. If something to this affect was said, the saying it alone would be enough to make Israel straighten up. This would also get back international approval for us as well.

Professor   January 21st, 2009 11:23 pm ET

January 21, 2009
BBC News

Islam Film Dutch MP To Be Charged

A Dutch court has ordered prosecutors to put a right-wing politician on trial for making anti-Islamic statements.

Freedom Party leader Geert Wilders made a controversial film last year equating Islam with violence and has likened the Koran to Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf.

"In a democratic system, hate speech is considered so serious that it is in the general interest to... draw a clear line," the court in Amsterdam said.

Mr Wilders said the judgement was an "attack on the freedom of expression".

"Participation in the public debate has become a dangerous activity. If you give your opinion, you risk being prosecuted," he said.

Not only he, but all Dutch citizens opposed to the "Islamisation" of their country would be on trial, Mr Wilders warned.

"Who will stand up for our culture if I am silenced?" he added.

'Incitement'

The three judges said that they had weighed Mr Wilders's "one-sided generalisations" against his right to free speech, and ruled that he had gone beyond the normal leeway granted to politicians.

"The Amsterdam appeals court has ordered the prosecution of member of parliament Geert Wilders for inciting hatred and discrimination, based on comments by him in various media on Muslims and their beliefs," the court said in a statement.

"The court also considers appropriate criminal prosecution for insulting Muslim worshippers because of comparisons between Islam and Nazism made by Wilders," it added.

The court's ruling reverses a decision last year by the public prosecutor's office, which said Mr Wilders's comments had been made outside parliament as a contribution to the debate on Islam in Dutch society and that no criminal offence had been committed.

Prosecutors said on Wednesday that they could not appeal against the judgement and would open an investigation immediately.

Gerard Spong, a prominent lawyer who pushed for Mr Wilders's prosecution, welcomed the court's decision.

"This is a happy day for all followers of Islam who do not want to be tossed on the garbage dump of Nazism," he told reporters.

'Fascist book'

In March 2008, Mr Winders posted a film about the Koran on the internet, prompting angry protests across the Muslim World.

The opening scenes of Fitna – a Koranic term sometimes translated as "strife" – show a copy of the holy book followed by footage of the bomb attacks on the US in 11 September 2001, London in July 2005 and Madrid in March 2004.

Pictures appearing to show Muslim demonstrators holding up placards saying "God bless Hitler" and "Freedom go to hell" also feature.

The film ends with the statement: "Stop Islamisation. Defend our freedom."

Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende said at the time that the film wrongly equated Islam with violence and served "no purpose other than to offend".

A year earlier, Mr Wilders described the Koran as a "fascist book" and called for it to be banned in "the same way we ban Mein Kampf", in a letter published in the De Volkskrant newspaper.

Mr Wilders has had police protection since Dutch director Theo Van Gogh was killed by a radical Islamist in 2004.

Correspondents say his Freedom Party (PVV), which has nine MPs in the lower house of parliament, has built its popularity largely by tapping into the fear and resentment of Muslim immigrants.

cubfan   January 21st, 2009 11:39 pm ET

Solomon

The gates of hell were opened by Hamas. As long as Islamic extremists goals include the destruction of Israel and the US, we will always side with Israel and the IDF will always have the keys to invade the Gaza strip.

Obama is not an impartial mediator in the Middle East, in order to win the US election he needed to sell his soul to covet the Jewish voters in Florida. Obama tip to Jerusalem and his call for freedom in his inaugural speech is where his allegiance lies. George Bush could have written his inaugural speech when it came to the part on where the US stands internationally. All of the ideas expressed were exactly those expressed o four former President George Bush. Obama is a strong ally to Israel.

This is not the change the Muslim world has been waiting for, just more of the same.

Professor   January 21st, 2009 11:46 pm ET

Nazi Cubfan,

yes you are right... Obama had to sell his soul to Satan.... oh i meant Israel.

Its the occupation stupid.

CS   January 21st, 2009 11:55 pm ET

Just because small groups of angry men act hastily, the majority of the region should not be made to suffer. The real way to get Hamas, and other radical groups to be inept, is to turn it's people against them. If Palestine were given some help to financially, economically, and agriculturally grow, and prosper, the people would see a future that is without bombs and bullets, and support a new chance to prosper. Who would want to join a crazy bunch, if they had something to lose? The way things have been being done have not worked. Despite the ramblings of benyemen earlier, Palestine will need the help of other nations to get the ball rolling. Just a matter of who will step up.

CS   January 22nd, 2009 12:03 am ET

Obama has not sold anything to anybody. He just needs to approach this in a different way. Many of the war mongering angry men want Obama to do things their way, and run into Israel, guns blazing, and give hell. That is the way overzelleous groups like Hamas do things. You see how good that does. How about we try another way. In fact, since some of you are so damn smart, give a solution to the problem. Let's hear your ideas. Some of us have done an equal share of telling the truth of the past, and how we got here, AND what might help the situation. Can anybody do that, or do we need to keep whining, finger pointing, and naysaying? Taliking about what Obama can and can't do. Here's a question for all you had asses...What can you do?

mohammed gharbawi   January 22nd, 2009 12:13 am ET

zionism and islamic extremism are ywo faces of the same coin:
1-Both promote the agenda of terror to achive ideological and ultr-nationalist objectives.
2-Both constitute a threat to world peace.
3-Both believe in the premise that the end justifies the means.
4-Both use extensive and hard propaganda and a rhetoric of logical fallacy.
5-Both dont distinguish between civilians and military personnel.
6-Both think that the real issue is religious , not political.
7-Both think they are invincible because their cause is just.

mohammed gharbawi   January 22nd, 2009 12:15 am ET

Cubfan
Hamas has a problem withisrael, not the US. YOU COLONIZE THEM. DONT TRY TO ASSOCIATE YOURSELVES WITH AMERICANS.

mohammed gharbawi   January 22nd, 2009 12:18 am ET

CUBFAN
israel has become a burden for the US and the world. All human rights organizations are preparing their files to sue you. Why do you want to involve Obama in your crimes from day one. its really a shame.

mohammed gharbawi   January 22nd, 2009 12:24 am ET

As far as obama is concerned i used to sympathize with him ; i used to follow the American elections till 4a.m in CNNs situation room and all other programs, but i was shocked when i saw him wearing the kappa and saying that the first thing he will do is acknowledge jerusalem as an eternal capital of the jewish state knowing that this city is sacred for muslims too and that it was annexed in the 1967 war and that it is constantly being altered from all its axes.
The second thing that pushed me to be less optimistic is the staff he has appointed; many of them are either jews or proisraelis (eg. Hillary Clinton).
its true we should judge him by his deeds, but the two arguments i have advanced are foreshadowing and revealing.

mohammed gharbawi   January 22nd, 2009 12:37 am ET

I genuinely think that our problem as Arabs is our stupid reliance on the OTHER to solve our problems knowing that we have all the necessary means to accomplish that.We have a just cause, we have energy that keeps the whole wold alive; we have illimited natural resources; we have a large population, we have a strategic geographical location.
why will we need people to sympathize with us; this really ridiculous.
Guys, all we need is eliminate our leaders and be democratic. Be sure palestine will be free in 24 hours.
The dichotomy between arab governments and their people is the cause behind our begging of our rights.
if we were democratic, the world would be seeking our sympathy.

Lynne   January 22nd, 2009 12:40 am ET

Mohammed,

That was an astute observation you made in your post 015 GMT.

I do hope that Obama can facilitate peace between Israel and its neighbors. Unfortunate choice of Clinton and Emanuel, however. I'm hoping that these two will not be a detriment.

I think that the first thing he should do is try to get the border crossings open to humanitarian aid. The Euros are ready to monitor and are griping that they can't get enough aid in.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090121/wl_mideast_afp/mideastconflictgazaeudiplomacy;_ylt=Am6CaRMnlZq0WvuomUCpfpJvaA8F

Professor   January 22nd, 2009 12:43 am ET

CS,

I don't think anyone should hurry to pass judgement on Obama... Only idiots such as cubfan would do something like that.... Even Hamas said we are going to wait to see his actions on the ground before we pass judgement. Thats what a smart man would do. But, pull him to one side or another is too early... Even the Israeli administration is trying to be careful becuase they don't know what's his next move going to be. He is a smart man... he seems to be fair... he wants to fix the image of the US when it comes to its stand on Human Rights.... Lets hope that same Human Rights that applies to American applied to Palestinians and to all the citizens of the Human race.

Professor   January 22nd, 2009 12:48 am ET

Lynne,

What borders are they going to monitor?

mohammed gharbawi   January 22nd, 2009 12:51 am ET

CS January 21st, 2009 2355 GMT

Just because small groups of angry men act hastily, the majority of the region should not be made to suffer. The real way to get Hamas, and other radical groups to be inept, is to turn it’s people against them. If Palestine were given some help to financially, economically, and agriculturally grow, and prosper, the people would see a future that is without bombs and bullets, and support a new chance to prosper. Who would want to join a crazy bunch, if they had something to lose? The way things have been being done have not worked. Despite the ramblings of benyemen earlier, Palestine will need the help of other nations to get the ball rolling. Just a matter of who will step up.
***************************************************************************
what you say is not true; in fact, its dangerous and needs a reply.
you want to convey the message that HAMAS IS a problem for palestinans and this appalling.
First, Hamas has been elected by a majority of palestinians; it did not govern by a coup d'état.
Second, Hamas is aliberation movement. In all international conventions, you will find that once there is acolonizer, there is a resistant.
Third, what you say about the duty of providing palestinians with food, economy means that palestinians will live on humanitarian help for ever. when people are colonized , they say, "dont give me bread, give me liberty".
Fourth if you are a supporte of Abbas and co ,then you should revise yourself because these people, who think themslves presidents and ministers and have fancy cars and eat and drink with olmert on candles, are for us losing horses. we dont have astate in order to have a president.

Professor   January 22nd, 2009 12:55 am ET

People wake up... Abbas term has ended.... Israel wants to deal with a looser whos term has ended.... and not willing to deal with someone who was freely and fairly elected by the majority in a democtratic elections.

CS   January 22nd, 2009 1:03 am ET

Professor. I obviously am biased in the favor of Obama, but I do beleive he is fair. What many naysayers did not see, or hear were his childhood, life experiences, and such. Many have not seen his humility, or even heard him debate. I have closely watched every debate. I have watched, and read about him for many hours before I cast my vote for him. I beleive he is level headed, and fair. He IS only a man, and will make mistakes, but I do beleive that he has good intentions. Just be aware that he will have challenges with his own countrymen (republicans), and abroad.

mohammed gharbawi   January 22nd, 2009 1:04 am ET

Lynne
Bringing european monitors to the borders is dangerous too. the ultimate objective behind the savage war of israel is exactly to achieve this.why?
THIS WILL END THE PALESTINIAN CAUSE FOREVER. Since there will be no resistance , the israelis will not make any effort to negociate,right?
This will be the first step towrds realazing Ariel Sharon's dream to annex Ghazza to egypt and the west bank to jordan as was planned for.
this will also give a wrong signal to the world that israel is a victim ; thats why it is protected by international monitors.

It is ethically unacceptable to come with monitors in one region and at the same time you kill people in the west bank and change the form of jerusalem on adaily basis. this will put the monitor on the same par with the colonizer.
Concerning, the place, where these monitors are going to settle? Near egypt is out of the question as they constitute a threaat to its national security; in gazza, no question too as they protect the colonizer from legitimate resistance.
So Lynne the issue is really complicated.
the solution is the end of the occupation.

mohammed gharbawi   January 22nd, 2009 1:08 am ET

CS
Ho do you know that you were the only one in the world to see his debateS? ARE YOU THE UNIQUE PERSON IN THE WORLD TO HAVE TV?

mohammed gharbawi   January 22nd, 2009 1:19 am ET

PROFESSOR
Its true that Abbas term has ended but the world sees only what they want to see and they say that there is no hypocricy in politics.

CS   January 22nd, 2009 1:20 am ET

Mohammed. If you read my posts from past cnn blogs, you would remember that I have said that I admire Hamas' determination, and unwillingness to give in. I side with their argument against Israel. I just happen to strongly disagree with the way they do things, as it achieves their objective to get attention, it also is wreckless, and kills their own countrymen, and destroys it's own infrastructure.
They have to know that lobbing rockets from wwII is not going to do much, if anything to show their strength. If after they allied with other Arab nations for some years, and tried a diplomatic approach, Israel got aggressive with violence, THEN they would have a built up military, and allies, and financing, and help. But they kill any chance of REAL resistance to opression, by waisting the few bombs and bullets they do have, (not to mention lives) on a poorly planned campaign.
To answer what you said about receiving humanitarian aid forever...I'm not talking about just sending food. I'm talking about increasing their knowledge, so that PALESTINIANS can build bridges, roads, and infrastructure. So that PALESTINIANS could have clean renewable energy (like wind, solar, or oceanic current), som they wont have to rely on Israel for ANYTHING. I'm talking about getting police, and military equipment and training so that they will be a force to be recconed with in the region, to which cowards will approach with respect.
My problem is that Hamas comes out and says every single thing on its mind, so that they bring unnecessry, and unfavorable attention to themselves. Not to mention speaking for it's citizens lives. When they say things about how they wish to fight to the last breath and other such things (don't quote me) they speak for themselves...not their innocents. People's live are not an expendature.

CS   January 22nd, 2009 1:24 am ET

MOHAMMED. AGAIN!!! YOU ARE WHINING ABOUT WHAT lYNNE, AND MYSELF ARE SAYING. CAN YOU GIVE A SOLUTION. I SEE YOU SAYING THAT THIS IS NOT THE ANSWER, AND THAT IS NOT THE ANSWER. THAN WHAT IS...OH WISE MOHAMMED?!
i'M STARTING TO THINK THAT YOU, AND SOME OTHERS JUST WANT THE FIGHTING TO CONTINUE FOREVER. LYNNE GAVE A CONSTRUCTIVE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM, AND HERE COMES A HATER, TO SAY THAT A PEACEFUL SOLUTION IS DANGEROUS. THAT MAKES SENSE. IT DOES. IT REALLY DOES.

mohammed gharbawi   January 22nd, 2009 1:28 am ET

CS
i think the issue is more complicated than that. Its about liberation my friend. Algeria has ben occupied for 130 year; if there were no one million and a half martyr, there would have never been the tterm "algeria".
Resistance and wars of liberation hace alogic of their own.
This ruthless war has brought to hamas an unprecedented support frp the world community and has revived the palestinian cause that was technically and clinically dead.
I would also be a fool to believe that israel will let hamas develop a military potential; this is impossible.

Occupation has to end; unfortunately, the only means available is palestinian courage.

CS   January 22nd, 2009 1:45 am ET

Mohammed. Do you think those 1.5 million people volounteered to die, or was it someone elses ideals.
Let me tell you. There are some things worth fighting, and dying for. But if I'm gonna volunteere to do either, it's gonna be for my ideals. I will not be brainwashed by governments or militias.

Lynne   January 22nd, 2009 1:47 am ET

Prof,

The way I read it, looked like at least the Rafah crossing.

Mohammed,

While I agree with you on the border monitors in Gaza in the long term, I fail to see the harm in the short term (and I don't mean years), if the presence of international monitors will get the borders open to aid. A lot of people have lost everything. And I don't trust the Israeli government to make good on anything, considering their disregard of every UNSCR concerning the occupied territories. The US has gone to war with Iraq twice for noncompliance.

You're right ... the situation is complicated. When you look back at the Oslo Accords, there were a lot of things left out, and haven't been addressed in the intervening (almost 20) years. A lot of people were saying that what was offered the beginning of this century (2003, or do I forget?) was a good deal. I don't think so, because the same issues that were not addressed in 1993 were still not brought up.

So what's a short-term solution, Mohammed, to get aid in right now and let folks start rebuilding their lives? I think that the best solution will come from the Arab nations, but they seem as divided as the Israelis and Palestinians. They need to get their stuff together and focus on commonalities and make the compromises necessary to help the Palestinians, instead of blowing smoke.

Solomon   January 22nd, 2009 1:53 am ET

CS.

well the fighting will continue for ever if Israel insist on occupying and building settlements on Palestinian Land.
Israel was never interested in peace all she is interested in is grabbing land and depriving the Palestinians of every thing.

read some of what Israeli leaders say about Palestinians.

"When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle."
Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983.

Professor   January 22nd, 2009 1:54 am ET

Lynne,

Well how is that going to happen if to my knowledge neither Egypt nor Hamas accepted international border monitors on their ground?

CS   January 22nd, 2009 1:59 am ET

Lynne. I like your approach. You are optomistic, and give constructive solutions to the problem...rather than offering up the lives of 1.5 million people on a guess that , since it worked for another country, at another time, for other reasons, that the same end is needed to fix this problem. Great thinking Mo.

Lynne   January 22nd, 2009 2:00 am ET

Prof,

Novel idea ... I believe that it was the Israelis that wanted international monitors. Stick 'em on the Israeli side of the gates 8)

CS   January 22nd, 2009 2:04 am ET

Solomon. I was told how to deal with adversaries from a young age. What I do know, is that I cannot MAKE another person do anything. I can only manipulate myself, and my adversary will then change their approach. To wich my reaction will be benificial to me. I agree with you that Israel occupies Palestine and opresses it's people. Most sane people can't deny that. But what is a solution. What can supporters of Palestine do. What can Palsetine herself do, to make a better future for themselves?

I.B. Wright   January 22nd, 2009 2:10 am ET

CS has a point- instead of p'ing and moaning about who did what, and why this or that won't work, let' see if we can't come up with some more constructive comments. What would be wrong with shoving the "road map" down their collective throats? That is probably as fair a resolution as either side is going to see since it was developed by several impartial countries . I know it's not perfect but nothing else has worked so far, so why not? The current situation where Israel occasionally goes in and pounds the crap out of the palestinians in an effort to break their will is making things worse, not better.

Solomon   January 22nd, 2009 2:14 am ET

CS.

the solution is there and it is the only solution
.mind you after what happened in Gaza I am not a believer in peace with Israel any more.
this is the solution.
the return of occupied Palestinian land of 1967.all of that land.
the return or compensation of refugees.
the dismantling of settlements on Palestinian Land.
this is according to UN resolutions and is accepted by all Arabs Including Hamas according to the Arab peace initiative of 2002.

Israel then will then have its security and the Palestinians will have their state and security too.

Professor   January 22nd, 2009 2:18 am ET

Lynne,

Am I missing something? Isn't Rafah on the border between Egypt and Gaza? What Israeli side of the gates are you talking about?

CS   January 22nd, 2009 2:22 am ET

Solomon. This would be justice, but is not realistic. If Palestine has designated land now, why not fortify, and build on what they have, rather than fight a loosing battle, and end up with less than what they started with. Not all Palsestians are interested in a bitter fight with Israel, even if it means until their own extinction. This absolute, "my way or the highway" approach is unlikely to work.

Solomon   January 22nd, 2009 2:23 am ET

the Guardian.

Dozens of Gazan smugglers were back on the border with Egypt today openly repairing and restarting tunnels between the two territories after three weeks of intense Israeli air strikes.

There were deep impact craters in the soil just a few hundred yards from the border, but many of the tunnels appeared to be at least partly intact. Several tents covering tunnel entrances were still standing, though most were pockmarked by shrapnel. Bulldozers were clearing away sand as men dug for the wood-reinforced wells that descend around 15 metres from the surface into the tunnels.

Israel set as one of its war aims in Gaza the destruction hundreds of tunnels that have brought goods in from Egypt for several years. Most of what arrived was food, cigarettes, fuel, even farm animals – all intended to break Israel's tough economic blockade – but some of the tunnels were used to bring in cash and weaponry for armed groups, including the Islamist movement Hamas, which runs Gaza.

Solomon   January 22nd, 2009 2:27 am ET

CS.
why is it not realistic?

if Israel want peace and if it respect international law and UN resolutions that that is the solution.
it is not up to you or to me to decide if the Palestinians want to return or get compensation for their land and homes it is for the Palestinians to decide.

Solomon   January 22nd, 2009 2:33 am ET

CS..
the Algerians did not say it is a losing battle against France when there was 2 million French settlers in Algeria they lost 1.5 million but won their country from the occupiers.
the Blacks in south Africa did not say it is a losing battle with the white settlers they fought and won their country from White settlers.

why should the Palestinians be any different?

I.B. Wright   January 22nd, 2009 2:36 am ET

CS- What's wrong with justice? All the world powers have to do is agree to it and force both of them to implement it. In almost every case it's the US's refusal to be just when comes to israel and the Palestinians. If the US really wants this thing resolved, all they have to is stand up to Israel and do what's right (i.e. just) because without their backing Israel would become a lot more motivated to choose peace. Not an easy task but it is probably the only way this thing will be resolved for the long term..

Solomon   January 22nd, 2009 2:38 am ET

I.B. Wright.
right on target.

I.B. Wright   January 22nd, 2009 2:41 am ET

Solomon- same to you. Sorry, I didn't read your post of 227 before I posted. Great minds think alike eh?

Solomon   January 22nd, 2009 2:49 am ET

I.B. Wright.
if the US want to solve this problem it will be solved in a month.but the Jewish lobby in the US controls American policy in the Middle east.
we need some one like Eisenhower in the US I dont think that Obama can do it.
be back.

CS   January 22nd, 2009 2:49 am ET

Like I said earlier. If Obama says to Israel, enough is enough, and we will not give aid to Israel if it continues to opress Palestine, than this would press Israel to act right. He has Clinton in his corner. Clinton almost had things moving toward relative peace over there, and I believe they will try again.
As far as what is realistic...I agree with the both of you, that this would be justice. I am on your side on this issue. But The way to go about it is not by force, or war. It has been done for years, decades, centuries, and has yet to work. If you think that mere brut force can fix this thing...best of luck to you.

I.B. Wright   January 22nd, 2009 3:00 am ET

CS- I think we are all on the same page on this one. Brute force can't fix the problem because only one side has it. We all agree (I think) on how this matter can be resolved, now it's just a question of whether the new President can make it happen or not. I'm kinda optimistic that he's the right guy to do it and wish him the best of luck.

Solomon   January 22nd, 2009 3:31 am ET

The Observer, Sunday 18 January 2009

Editorial

A pointless war has led to a moral defeat for Israel

In historical terms, it is impossible to separate Israel's offensive against Hamas in Gaza from the long narrative of conflict and mutual grievance in the region.

In geographic terms, the war over a tiny plot of land cannot be detached from the wider involvement and strategic interests of other countries: Syria, Egypt, the US, Iran.

All of which makes it difficult to judge where – even if a unilateral Israeli ceasefire holds – the war really begins and ends.

That fact alone explains why the operation represents a defeat for Israel, as was always likely to be the outcome. The notion that the country's security problems can be resolved by the unilateral use of extreme force is a persistent delusion among Israeli politicians. In this case, the problem was perceived to be Hamas rocket fire into southern Israel; the solution was judged to be a war against Hamas. That analysis did not allow for the vital, humane recognition that, in densely populated Gaza, an all-out war against Hamas is, by necessity, an attack on the civilian population.

Even on its own terms, the campaign has failed. Israeli authorities will insist that they have limited the ability of Hamas to launch rocket attacks. But the ostensible war aim was destroying that capability completely.

Israel will also claim that its campaign has exposed a lack of support for Hamas in many Arab capitals; that Hamas' position as the ruling authority in Gaza has been undermined; and that Hamas has been revealed as little more than a terrorist proxy acting on behalf of and armed by Syria and Iran.

But the reality is that the status of Hamas as the preferred vehicle for Palestinian resistance to Israeli occupation has been enhanced by the indiscriminate brutality of the military assault.

Meanwhile, that status guarantees the resurgence, in some form, of armed response, including rocket fire and terrorist attacks on Israeli soil. It is possible that Hamas' military capability has been drastically reduced. But even when Israel had full command of Gaza's external borders, it could not stop the trade in smuggled weapons. Sadly, Hamas will re-arm with or without a ceasefire agreement.

Meanwhile, any increased consideration of Iranian or Syrian sponsorship of terrorism will pale against global outrage at the extraordinary disregard shown by Israeli forces for the lives of Palestinian civilians. It is quite possible, as the Observer today reports, that an Israeli withdrawal will reveal evidence of actions deserving indictment as war crimes. Those allegations must be independently investigated.

Israel's allies in the west, chiefly the US, have traditionally defended the country on the grounds that it is a democracy besieged by despotic regimes and terrorists. But while Israeli citizens do enjoy immense political and social freedom, those values do not automatically prevent the state from committing atrocities.
The fact of Israeli democracy is not a reason to resist negotiations with Hamas. That was true before this pointless, brutal war and will remain so afterwards.

GLeigh   January 22nd, 2009 4:00 am ET

CS – I have felt bad and ashamed a few days now. I was really upset over the weak peace agreement. I had high hopes. Too high. And I really ranted at you. Sorry. You were an easy target maybe because you are so easy going most of the time. It was wrong. Sorry again.

I do understand that many here have deep, real reasons for their feelings. I do respect that when I can comprehend it. It's hard to go there. Despite those feelings, and I know that I will never be able to appreciate them fully, my glimmer of hope is that as higher beings, and I think we are, that we can learn. That we can work, hard, to co-exist so the world is better for the generations ahead. That sounds really corny. But my heart really is sad often.

GLeigh   January 22nd, 2009 4:04 am ET

CS – I've almost written that a few times. Just had to build up the nerve.

GLeigh   January 22nd, 2009 4:06 am ET

But, in my defense, it does show that I care. I do care a lot.

GLeigh   January 22nd, 2009 4:15 am ET

If a guy wrote something like what I just wrote – I'd be ill. Very ill. I am sorry CS. Really. Solomon – I don't judge people. We all have our pathway of learning while here. They are just very different.

GLeigh   January 22nd, 2009 4:16 am ET

I'm pooped. See you another day! Talking is good.

Fawad Ali   January 22nd, 2009 10:15 am ET

http://cnnus.blogspot.com/

Fawad Ali   January 22nd, 2009 10:35 am ET

http://cnnus.blogspot.com/
.

CS   January 22nd, 2009 11:46 am ET

Benyemen. I am an American. And despite what you, and others think, we are not all tyrants. I will never send prayers, or well wishis to a group who bombs buildings, uses their children as disposables to do their fighting. You can come with what you think is righteous if you wish. But I am fully confident that God will condemn those who do such things. His fury is more than any torture, or anything that any man can do. If these are your prayers, than so be it. We'll see whose actions, and intentions are blessed or cursed when we meet Him. There is only one God.
If scripture tells me to strap bombs to my children, or bomb the buildings of civilians, or any other cowardly acts, than I guess I have missed the mark.
You know, guys like you act all upity, but how brave, and noble is it to attack civilians. You're crying now about the civilians of Palestine being killed by Israel, but in the same breath, sending well wishes to those who do the same. HYPOCRITE.
I am one who strives to be righteous, and just. Maybe over the years, I wil live learn, and pray, and I will be. I know I have much to still learn. I am PASSIONATE about my neigbors being free, and treated equally. And when I say neigbors, this is a powerful thing, as my scripture tells us to love thy neighbor as thyself. But my mind and heart will NEVER be malleable enough to be molded into a tool for some fanatic to use at his disposal. There is a true to life movie you should take the time to watch. Called "Traitor" You should check it out.
And as for you "thinking I was respectful" Sorry, but I "thought you, and some others were without prejudice, and fighters for justice for anybody being opressed. But after I hear all the comments about Obama, and how you all look on him as an enemy, before he even extends his hand to you, I can see that you are all about ABSOLUTION.
You will only accept things if they are just the way YOU want them. And if you don't get it, you make the people around you an enemy. Even the ones trying to compromise with you.
And to the contrary; I am not manipulitive. You, and Osama, and all the others who solely want to feed the flames of hatred, and violence are manipulitive. Only those who tell teenages boys to strap on and blow yourself up in the name of whatever, are manipulitive.
By the way. Why not do it yourself? Don't send your kid, or someone elses. I'm sure another person smarter than you will be provided in your stead, to lead. All these nice things you talk about are empty. IT IS NOT NOBLE TO HIT CIVILIANS. AT LEAST JAPAN ATTACKED A MILITARY BASE IN WWII.

CS   January 22nd, 2009 12:00 pm ET

Just sad. We've got Arabs praying for Israel to be whiped off the map. We' ve got Israelis actually trying to drive out Palestinians. This whole thing is very sad. There are many Israelis who are peace loving people, who even disaprove, of it's govt's actions, but you still deal in absolution, and wish them "wiped off the map." There are many Palestinians who want nothing to do with Hamas, and in fact are angry with them for their incorrect approach..Palestinians who want peace, long life, and prosperity, but are being opressed, killed, or driven out right now. So much hate on both sides. Blind hate. Neither can MAN-UP, and admit their wrong part, and start a new beginning.
I'm still a little agravated about the comment on benyemen, "thought you were respectful." What does respectful mean? Does it mean following with you're agenda, and allowing you to trash my countrymen, and me. Sorry bro. If that's what you think of me, you got the wrong guy.

GLeigh   January 22nd, 2009 1:47 pm ET

CS – The idea of compensation caught my ear. Is that possible? I really am stupid about this issue, but trying to learn. That was a hurtful word, by the way – stupid. I would LOVE to visit this part of the world, but it is too dangerous in my opinion. I have a relative soon going to Jordon on a tour. 17 were booked. Not that many now, under half. Most cancelled. How many world leaders would agree to "compensation" and a new era of tourism, a building up instead of blowing up? Just a thought. I would love to see Egypt too. I had a friend tell me about all night parties under the Pyramids. Wow!

GLeigh   January 22nd, 2009 1:52 pm ET

I see tourism as a way of sharing. Many cultures are only "learnable" (is that a word?) by really being there. I don't think of it as a sell out personally. It's just a tool to understanding in my opinion. We all have those, like noses. It benefits everyone in the end.

CS   January 22nd, 2009 2:18 pm ET

GLeigh. I agree about building instead of destroying. I also agree with the idea of compensation very much. Will the wrongdoers admitt the errors they committed, and offer retribution? The same answer than families of former slaves getting reparations. Probably not. I agree that ANYONE wronged should be compensated for their loss. Is it realistically going to happen, probably not. So I choose to move forward with my life, and live as righteously as possible. Do the best I can for my family, for my neighbors (the ones I like, and the ones I don't like) don't whine, and live well. This is the best revenge.

GLeigh   January 22nd, 2009 2:27 pm ET

CS – You are a lot more patient than I am. I want it all – now.

CS   January 22nd, 2009 2:29 pm ET

GLeigh. I am very supportive of compensation, and building up instead fo tearing down. Just as I am very supportive that family members of former slaves, should be given reparations. I think ANYBODY should be given compensation when they experience a loss at someone elses hand. Just like I said weeks ago...If I go to a bar/club/restaurant, wherever, and bump someone, which causes that person to spill their food/drink, than I feel compelled to appologize, and pay for it. This is the right attitude. I don't say "You should'nt have been in my way," or something to this effect. So long as I was part of the reason for this person losing out, I must at least appologize, let alone offer to make it right.
Now will the U.S. or Israel do this. I doubt it. I pray they will. I just think that for FUTURE events, Obama will be fair to all sides. At least I pray he does.

GLeigh   January 22nd, 2009 2:33 pm ET

Because of this war, seemingly endless, I will probably never see the Pyramids, Gaza, or Israel. As a part of humanity, this seems a big loss to me. The cultures are rich and old. I don't really care what anyone calls God. Just as long as they call him something. Some don't. Many maybe. Well, money is not the answer. Sharing culters and being open might be. Handing people cash doesn't seem that useful, long term. But, money well used to build and open up borders to others, in the long term, might cure some of us who are ignorant of life in this part of the world.

CS   January 22nd, 2009 2:35 pm ET

GLeigh. :) Don't get me wrong. I want many things to be fixed in our world right now too. What I'm saying, that many of the nay sayers in here don't seem to grasp, is that I'm not willing to waste my life away, whining, and being angry, in exchange for the possibility for my families prosperity, and above all, safety. Imagine if Obama's family decided to be a bunch of radicals...Do you think he would have more power as a radical angry leader of a few, or the leader of this nation that he is right now? How many more lives can he affect, by possitive behavior than negative?

GLeigh   January 22nd, 2009 2:37 pm ET

CS – You and I are much a like. You are a little more sympathetic to Palestine. I'm a little more sympathetic to Israel. Balance. Ying and Yang. God likes change and diversity. Look at the species. In the end, they co-exist.

GLeigh   January 22nd, 2009 2:43 pm ET

President Obama being radical. Scary thought. But he is just one person. The voice of the world will decide how it goes. He might be the most blamed or praised, and he is important, but he is just one.

CS   January 22nd, 2009 2:48 pm ET

Handing people cash..useful or not, is the right thing to do if you're the reason they're worse off than before they delt with you, because of something that is your fault. I Agree that some finness is necessary. For example, Ol' Bush handed out 2000 dollar debit cards to people who lost theri entire homes, children, parents, or whatever (Katrina). This hardly makes up for the failure to fix the levy problem when he was told of it over a year before Katrina, which caused so many to suffer. Smae with reparations. Who would'nt it help to give 13 percent of the population of the U.S. (who built this very nation with the free labored cotton industry which got this nation running?) I would benefit. My local economy would too. Now imagine all the others doing the same.
But this is not the issue. The issue to me, is helping these people stand on their own and flourish. It would take some outside financial assistance, but it can be done. They have sun for solar electricty. They have coastline for ocean current tubines for more electricity. They can do very well if engineers, and other such folks could go in and help. Just the way folks did for Israel in and leading up to 1948.
The concern just becomes...would haters destroy things before they could work? Which brings me to my next point; Why not assist THE PALESTINIAN people with impartial military mediators for security, and why not help them to build up their own security forces, and military? This way, eventually they can do their own thing independantly.

CS   January 22nd, 2009 2:51 pm ET

Gleigh. Although we differ in who we are more sympathetic to, your optimism is good. I have disagreed with many things you have said, no doubt. But you have also made some peaceful, reasonable observations too, and that is good.

GLeigh   January 22nd, 2009 2:54 pm ET

I agree with mediators and monitors. Some have been too injured and don't trust or want them. There is some old saying, Give a man a meal and he is full for a little while. Teach him how to fish and he can feed himself and be full always. That's not right, but the general idea. Well, a long term idea and dream is needed. I think President Obama is more a long term, real solution person rather than making everyone happy for a little bit. He'll be really put through the wringer for awhile probably. In the end, he might be another Abe. I hope so.

CS   January 22nd, 2009 2:59 pm ET

If the majority of Palestine West Bank and Gaza accepted this type of assistance, than they should take their country back from Hamas. If people just want peace, it wont be easy, but it can happen. Hamas can be ousted if the majority of the people stand up.
Now I don't pretend to know the hearts and minds of every Palestinian. But if they don't want death, destruction, and mysery, they cando well, if someone would step up to help. I think it should be a couple of the wealthy arab nations. This way there needs be no type of hang ups becasue it's the West helping them I just think the boiling blood between some people needs to cool for a little bit. But Godwilling, maybe we can be allies one day too.

CS   January 22nd, 2009 3:02 pm ET

Gotta run for a little bit. Nice talking with you. See ya.

Professor   January 22nd, 2009 3:03 pm ET

Hey CS,

Hey GLeigh,

Its the occupation stupid. :)

GLeigh   January 22nd, 2009 3:05 pm ET

I think God likes change and diversity. Perhaps Hamas leaders are able to adapt and will create a new vision for their people and all people of the world. Perhaps that's a stupid idea. Governments come and go. There are creators and destroyers and just watchers who do nothing. We'll see.

Professor   January 22nd, 2009 3:09 pm ET

GLeigh,

Hamas was doing good thins for its Palestinian people before it came into power. No one can deny that. Can you tell me what have changed in Hamas since then?

Hunk   January 22nd, 2009 3:11 pm ET

benyemen,

“GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH”

100 % agreed, no means of life if it in chains ..... Bravo

GLeigh   January 22nd, 2009 3:14 pm ET

Prof – I don't care what government is in what country. Likewise, I don't care what name some person calls God. There are probably thousands. I do care about solutions and peace instead of a call to blow Israel, my country, other embassies, Darfur, and anyone else up. That's not a good thing. Any other questions?

GLeigh   January 22nd, 2009 3:28 pm ET

I take that as a no. The P.C.B. thing was probably a little rude. My sense of humor is a little dry at times. Time to do my work. Peace.

Professor   January 22nd, 2009 3:40 pm ET

GLeigh,

My question to you was not a rehtorical one...

I am not asking about God's names or Darfur or Embassies.... What the hell is wrong with you? Focus please.

I do not support anyone attacking any other country.... These are criminal acts if they were done by an idividual or a group against another country or by a country against another country or by a country against an individual or a group. Its all called Terrror.

GLeigh   January 22nd, 2009 3:47 pm ET

My answer what not rhetorical. And I do focus – despite hell. You want Israel destroyed. You've admitted it, more than once. I don't know who you are, or care by the way. Glad you finally answered. Waited a long time. But I really do have to go. It's been real.

Professor   January 22nd, 2009 3:56 pm ET

GLeigh,

If your answer was rhetorical thats fine.... but it was not an answer to my question.... It was an answer to some question you have in your head.... That shows a lot of focus.

Go ahead and leave as usual. Its been very real.... I think.

Its the occupation stupid.

benyemen   January 22nd, 2009 4:10 pm ET

CS

YOU ARE AN ANGEL NOW BECAUSE YOU ARE AMERICAN, AMERICA IS EVEN WORSE THAN THE ZIONISTS.

1- WHO NUKED HORISHIMA AND NAGAZAKI – CIVILIANS AND CHILDREN – THEY SUFFER UNTIL TOMMOROW. AND FOR WHAT?
(NOTE: YOU MENTIONED THAT THEY ATTACKED ONLY MILITARY BASES) WHAT A NON SHAMEFUL PERSON YOU ARE.

2- WHO KILLED ALL THOSE VIETNAMESE – CIVILIANS AND CHILDREN AND FOR WHAT?

3- WHO KILLED ALL OF THOSE AFGHANISTANIS CIVILIANS AND CHILDREN – AND FOR WHAT?
(DON'T TELL ME ALGAEDA WHICH WAS DEFENDING ITS PEOPLE FROM YOUR ATTROCITIES IN THE BELLOW MENTIONED AREAS)

4- WHO TAUGHT AND FINANCED ALGAEDA – USA & SAUDI ARABIA AND FOR WHAT?

5- WHO BOMBED LIBYA CIVILIANS AND CHILDREN – AND FOR WHAT?

6- WHO BOMBED SOMALIA CIVILIANS AND CHILDREN – AND FOR WHAT?

7- WHO IS BOMBING AND OCCUPING PALESTINIANS CIVILIANS AND CHILDREN SINCE 1948 AND SUPPORTED BY WHOM -AND FOR WHAT?

8- WHO BOMBED AND OCCUPIED IRAQ CIVILIANS AND CHILDREN AND FOR WHAT?

9- WHO BOMBED LEBANON CIVILIANS AND CHILDREN AND FOR WHAT?

10- WHO BOMBED SYRIA CIVILIANS AND CHILDREN AND FOR WHAT?

WHO IS THE SATAN HERE ITS AMERICA AND WHAT YOU CALL ISRAEL!!!!!!!! WAKE UP AND OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!

AND WHO CAME TO OUR HELP WHEN OUR CHILDREN ABOVE WERE SHELLED...................NO ONE........SO ITS TIME TO DEFEND OURSELVES BY ANYMEANS GIVEN AND BY ANY WEAPON WE CAN PUT OUR HANDS ON, HOPEFULLY MORE POWERFUL THAN THE WAIST STRAPS ........DON'T TELL ME WHAT WEAPON OR WHICH PERSON TO FIGHT YOU .......YOU ALREADY BRANDED US TERRORISTS (HATRED) SO THEREFORE SEE THE TERRORISTS WHAT THEY CAN DO. WHO ARE THE HYPOCRITES HERE??

OUR PROPHET ASKED US TO LOOK AFTER OUR NEIGHBOURS TILL WE THOUGHT HE WOULD INCLUDE HIM IN THE INHERITANCE WILL.

DONT TELL ME ABOUT YOUR BOOK, WE HAVE OURS. AND BY THE WAY THE MOST EXTREMEST RELIGION IN THE WORLD TODAY IS CHRISTIANITY WHICH CHASTITIED THE PROPHET JESUS CHRIST TO BE A SON OF GOD OR GOD HIMSELF....................WHAT IS MORE EXTREME MORE THAN THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I WILL LEAVE HOLYWOOD MOVIES FOR YOU "TRAITOR" I AM WATCHING REAL HORROR MOVIES BY AMERICA AND BY WHAT YOU CALL ISRAEL.

OBAMA OR ANYONE WHO PRESIDES OVER USA IS AN ENEMY OF ISLAM (OTHERWISE HE WILL NOT SIT HIS ASS IN THE OVAL OFFICE) SO HE IS THE OTHER FACE OF THE SAME COIN "DUBYA".

MANIPULATIVE IS WHAT YOU ARE YOU HAVE POSTED THE COMMENT AND WAS BOASTING ABOUT IT. (SEE BELOW)

January 22nd, 2009 204 GMT

Solomon. I was told how to deal with adversaries from a young age. What I do know, is that I cannot MAKE another person do anything. I can only manipulate myself, and my adversary will then change their approach. To wich my reaction will be benificial to me.

NOW YOU ARE EVEN A LIAR.

MAN UP YOU SAY: TO ADMIT THE WRONG PART --ARE YOU BLIND TO SEE, DEAF TO HEAR.....WHAT THE WEST AND WHAT YOU CALL ISRAEL WANT..........MAN UP AND SAY IT IF YOU CAN DARE???

I WILL TELL YOU WHAT THE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS WANT: AS SAID BY OUR PROPHET: "ALMOST TRANSLATION"......

"NOT THE JEWS NOR THE CHRISTIANS WILL BE HAPPY WITH YOU UNTILL YOU FOLLOW THEIR STEPS"

AND YOU ARE NOT MY BROTHER AND NEVER YOU WILL BE, SO USE THOSE MANIPULATIVE WAYS OF YOURS TO SOMEONE ELSE UNTILL HE FIGURES YOU OUT.

benyemen   January 22nd, 2009 4:22 pm ET

“We consider ourselves to be comrades in arms to the Palestinian Arabs in their struggle for the liberation of Palestine. There is not a single citizen in South Africa who is not ready to stand by his Palestinian brothers in their legitimate fight against the Zionist racists.” — Nelson Mandela

benyemen   January 22nd, 2009 4:24 pm ET

“I should much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish state. Apart from practical consideration, my awareness of the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish state with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power no matter how modest. I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain — especially from the development of a narrow nationalism within our own ranks, against which we have already had to fight strongly, even without a Jewish state.” — Albert Einstein, 1932.

benyemen   January 22nd, 2009 4:25 pm ET

“My sympathies are all with the Jews…But my sympathy does not blind me to the requirements of justice. The cry for the national home for the Jews does not make much appeal to me…Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French. It is wrong and inhuman to impose the Jews on the Arabs. What is going on in Palestine today cannot be justified by any moral code of conduct. The mandates have no sanction but that of the last war. Surely it would be a crime against humanity to reduce the proud Arabs so that Palestine can be restored to the Jews partly or wholly as their national home.” — Gandhi, 1938

benyemen   January 22nd, 2009 4:28 pm ET

A sample of UN Resolutions violated by israel:
1955-1992:
* Resolution 106: “. . . ‘condemns’ Israel for Gaza raid”
* Resolution 111: “. . . ‘condemns’ Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people”
* Resolution 127: “. . . ‘recommends’ Israel suspend its ‘no-man’s zone’ in Jerusalem”
* Resolution 162: “. . . ‘urges’ Israel to comply with UN decisions”
* Resolution 171: “. . . determines flagrant violations’ by Israel in its attack on Syria”
* Resolution 228: “. . . ‘censures’ Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control”
* Resolution 237: “. . . ‘urges’ Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees”
* Resolution 248: “. . . ‘condemns’ Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan”
* Resolution 250: “. . . ‘calls’ on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem”
* Resolution 251: “. . . ‘deeply deplores’ Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250″
* Resolution 252: “. . . ‘declares invalid’ Israel’s acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital”
* Resolution 256: “. . . ‘condemns’ Israeli raids on Jordan as ‘flagrant violation”"
* Resolution 259: “. . . ‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation”
* Resolution 262: “. . . ‘condemns’ Israel for attack on Beirut airport”
* Resolution 265: “. . . ‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan”
* Resolution 267: “. . . ‘censures’ Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem”
* Resolution 270: “. . . ‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon” * Resolution 271: “. . . ‘condemns’ Israel’s failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem”
* Resolution 279: “. . . ‘demands’ withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon”
* Resolution 280: “. . . ‘condemns’ Israeli’s attacks against Lebanon”
* Resolution 285: “. . . ‘demands’ immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon”
* Resolution 298: “. . . ‘deplores’ Israel’s changing of the status of Jerusalem”
* Resolution 313: “. . . ‘demands’ that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon”
* Resolution 316: “. . . ‘condemns’ Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon”
* Resolution 317: “. . . ‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon”
* Resolution 332: “. . . ‘condemns’ Israel’s repeated attacks against Lebanon”
* Resolution 337: “. . . ‘condemns’ Israel for violating Lebanon’s sovereignty”
* Resolution 347: “. . . ‘condemns’ Israeli attacks on Lebanon”
* Resolution 425: “. . . ‘calls’ on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon”
* Resolution 427: “. . . ‘calls’ on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon’
* Resolution 444: “. . . ‘deplores’ Israel’s lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces”
* Resolution 446: “. . . ‘determines’ that Israeli settlements are a ’serious obstruction’ to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention”
* Resolution 450: “. . . ‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon”
* Resolution 452: “. . . ‘calls’ on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories”
* Resolution 465: “. . . ‘deplores’ Israel’s settlements and asks all member states not to assist Israel’s settlements program”
* Resolution 467: “. . . ’strongly deplores’ Israel’s military intervention in Lebanon”
* Resolution 468: “. . . ‘calls’ on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return”
* Resolution 469: “. . . ’strongly deplores’ Israel’s failure to observe the council’s order not to deport Palestinians”
* Resolution 471: “. . . ‘expresses deep concern’ at Israel’s failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention”
* Resolution 476: “. . . ‘reiterates’ that Israel’s claim to Jerusalem are ‘null and void’”
* Resolution 478: “. . . ‘censures (Israel) in the strongest terms’ for its claim to Jerusalem in its ‘Basic Law’”
* Resolution 484: “. . . ‘declares it imperative’ that Israel re-admit two deported Palestinian mayors”
* Resolution 487: “. . . ’strongly condemns’ Israel for its attack on Iraq’s nuclear facility”
* Resolution 497: “. . . ‘decides’ that Israel’s annexation of Syria’s Golan Heights is ‘null and void’ and demands that Israel rescinds its decision forthwith”
* Resolution 498: “. . . ‘calls’ on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon”
* Resolution 501: “. . . ‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops”
* Resolution 509: “. . . ‘demands’ that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon”
* Resolution 515: “. . . ‘demands’ that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in”
* Resolution 517: “. . . ‘censures’ Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon”
* Resolution 518: “. . . ‘demands’ that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon”
* Resolution 520: “. . . ‘condemns’ Israel’s attack into West Beirut”
* Resolution 573: “. . . ‘condemns’ Israel ‘vigorously’ for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters
* Resolution 587: “. . . ‘takes note’ of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw”
* Resolution 592: “. . . ’strongly deplores’ the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops”
* Resolution 605: “. . . ’strongly deplores’ Israel’s policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians
* Resolution 607: “. . . ‘calls’ on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention
* Resolution 608: “. . . ‘deeply regrets’ that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians”
* Resolution 636: “. . . ‘deeply regrets’ Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians
* Resolution 641: “. . . ‘deplores’ Israel’s continuing deportation of Palestinians
* Resolution 672: “. . . ‘condemns’ Israel for violence against Palestinians at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount
* Resolution 673: “. . . ‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to cooperate with the United Nations
* Resolution 681: “. . . ‘deplores’ Israel’s resumption of the deportation of Palestinians
* Resolution 694: “. . . ‘deplores’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return
* Resolution 726: “. . . ’strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians
* Resolution 799: “. . . ’strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return.

GLeigh   January 22nd, 2009 4:29 pm ET

Prof – I knew you'd say something mean after I left. Came back to see what it was. Your question was that Hamas was doing good things before it came into power and what had changed since they had taken power. My reply was that I did not care what government was in power as long as they achieved peace for all. Sorry if you didn't get that answer the first time. Didn't realize that I needed to rewrite it. You forgot your dots again. Typical. It's the occupation......stupid.

benyemen   January 22nd, 2009 4:30 pm ET

THE FOLLOWING ARE THE RESOLUTIONS VETOED BY THE UNITED STATES DURING THE PERIOD OF SEPTEMBER, 1972, TO MAY, 1990 TO PROTECT ISRAEL FROM COUNCIL CRITICISM:
* . . . condemned Israel’s attack against Southern Lebanon and Syria…”
* . . . affirmed the rights of the Palestinian people to self-determination, statehood and equal protections. . . ”
* . . . condemned Israel’s air strikes and attacks in southern Lebanon and its murder of innocent civilians. . . ”
* . . . called for self-determination of Palestinian people. . . ”
* . . deplored Israel’s altering of the status of Jerusalem, which is recognized as an international city by most world nations and the United Nations . . . ”
* . . . affirmed the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people . . . ”
* . . . endorsed self-determination for the Palestinian people . . . ”
* . . . demanded Israel’s withdrawal from the Golan Heights . . . ”
* . . . condemned Israel’s mistreatment of Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip and its refusal to abide by the Geneva convention protocols of civilized nations.
* . . . condemned an Israeli soldier who shot eleven Moslem worshippers at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount near Al-Aqsa Mosque in the Old City of Jerusalem. . . ”
* . . . urged sanctions against Israel if it did not withdraw from its invasion of Lebanon … ”
* . . . urged sanctions against Israel if it did not withdraw from its invasion of Beirut. . . ”
* . . . urged cutoff of economic aid to Israel if it refused to withdraw from its occupation of Lebanon. . . ”
* . . . condemned continued Israeli settlements in occupied territories in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, denouncing them as an obstacle to peace. . . ”
* . . . deplores Israel’s brutal massacre of Arabs in Lebanon and urges its withdrawal. . . ”
* . . . condemned Israeli brutality in southern Lebanon and denounced the Israeli ‘Iron Fist’ policy of repression. . . ”
* . . . denounced Israel’s violation of human rights in the occupied territories. . . ”
* . . . deplored Israel’s violence in southern Lebanon. . . ”
* . . . deplored Israel’s activities in occupied Arab East Jerusalem that threatened the sanctity of Muslim holy sites. . . ”
* . . . condemned Israel’s hijacking of a Libyan passenger airplane. . . ”
* . . . deplored Israel’s attacks against Lebanon and its measures and practices against the civilian population of Lebanon. . . ”
* . . . called on Israel to abandon its policies against the Palestinian intifada that violated the rights of occupied Palestinians, to abide by the Fourth Geneva Conventions, and to formalize a leading role for the United Nations in future peace negotiations. . . ”
* . . . urged Israel to accept back deported Palestinians, condemned Israel’s shooting of civilians, called on Israel to uphold the Fourth Geneva Convention, and called for a peace settlement under UN auspices. . . ”
* . . . condemned Israel’s . . incursion into Lebanon. . . ”
* . . . deplored Israel’s . . . commando raids on Lebanon. . . ”
* . . . deplored Israel’s repression of the Palestinian intifada and called on Israel to respect the human rights of the Palestinians. . . ”
* . . . deplored Israel’s violation of the human rights of the Palestinians. . . ”
* . . . demanded that Israel return property confiscated from Palestinians during a tax protest and allow a fact-finding mission to observe Israel’s crackdown on the Palestinian intifada . . . ”
* . . . called for a fact-finding mission on abuses against Palestinians in Israeli-occupied lands. . . “

GLeigh   January 22nd, 2009 4:30 pm ET

I'm a mom with a house. It doesn't self sweep or vacuum. Laundry doesn't jump in the washer. Say something else mean after I leave. I'll read back later. Peace.

benyemen   January 22nd, 2009 4:32 pm ET

U.S. taxpayer $$$$=Israeli bombs!!!!
Call the U.S. Congress to have them rescind
loan guarantees to Israel.
Benefits to Israel of U.S. Aid
Since 1949 (As of November 1, 1997)
Foreign Aid Grants and Loans
$74,157,600,000
Other U.S. Aid (12.2% of Foreign Aid)
$9,047,227,200
Interest to Israel from Advanced Payments
$1,650,000,000
Grand Total
$84,854,827,200
Total Benefits per Israeli
$14,630
Cost to U.S. Taxpayers of U.S.
Aid to Israel
Grand Total
$84,854,827,200
Interest Costs Borne by U.S.
$49,936,680,000
Total Cost to U.S. Taxpayers
$134,791,507,200
Total Taxpayer Cost per Israeli
$23,240

benyemen   January 22nd, 2009 4:38 pm ET

Israel did not condemn terrorism but rather awarded it.
Israel not only has been using terrorizism itself it has rewarded
the terrorizers
Menachem Begin headed Urgun and was awarded for his acts-
He was the Prime Minister of Israel from
June 21 1977 -October 10 1983
His successor was Izhak Shamir
elected Prime Minister of Israel after Begin
Headed Stern Gang-a terrorist organization
Eshkol
Prime Minister of Israel
1963-69
Haganah-a terrorist organization
Yitzhak Rabin
Prime Minister of Israel
1974-77 and 1992-95
Palmah-a terrorist organization
Moshe Dayan
Foreign Minister of Israel
1977-79
Haganah-a terrorist organization
Ariel Sharon
Foreign Minister of Israel
1998
Haganah-a terrorist organization
Just the Facts

benyemen   January 22nd, 2009 4:40 pm ET

Political Correctness in the western Media
Rule #1: In the Middle East, it is always the Palestinians that attack first, and it’s always Israel who defends itself. This is called “retaliation”.
Rule #2: The Palestinians are not allowed to kill Israelis. This is called “terrorism”.
Rule #3: Israel has the right to kill Palestinian civilians; this is called “self-defense”, or “collateral damage”.
Rule #4: When Israel kills too many Palestinian civilians, the Western world calls for restraint. This is called the “reaction of the international community”.
Rule #5: Palestinians do not have the right to capture Israeli military, not even 1 or 2.
Rule #6: Israel has the right to capture as many Palestinians as they want (around 10,000 to date being held without trial). There is no limit; there is no need for proof of guilt or trial. All that is needed is the magic word: “terrorism”.
Rule #7: When you say “Hamas”, always be sure to add “supported by Hezbo-Allah, Syria and Iran”.
Rule #8: When you say “Israel”, never say “supported by the USA, the UK, European countries and even some Arab regimes”, for people (God forbid) might believe this is not an equal conflict.
Rule #9: When it comes to Israel, don’t mention the words “occupied territories”, “UN resolutions”, “Geneva conventions”. This could distress the audience of Fox, CNN, etc.
Rule #10: Israelis speak better English than Arabs. This is why we let them speak out as much as possible, so that they can explain rules 1 through 9. This is called “neutral journalism”.
Rule #11: If you don’t agree with these rules or if you favor the Palestinian side over the Israeli side, you must be a very dangerous anti-Semite. You may even have to make a public apology if you express your honest opinion
(Isn’t democracy wonderful?)

benyemen   January 22nd, 2009 4:43 pm ET

There is a scriptural basis for the "Jews killed Jesus" claim:
"Now it was the governor's custom at the Feast to release a prisoner chosen by the crowd. At that time they had a notorious prisoner, called Barabbas. So when the crowd had gathered, Pilate asked them, "Which one do you want me to release to you: Barabbas, or Jesus who is called Christ?" For he knew it was out of envy that they had handed Jesus over to him.
While Pilate was sitting on the judge's seat, his wife sent him this message: "Don't have anything to do with that innocent man, for I have suffered a great deal today in a dream because of him."
But the chief priests and the elders persuaded the crowd to ask for Barabbas and to have Jesus executed.
"Which of the two do you want me to release to you?" asked the governor. "Barabbas," they answered.
"What shall I do, then, with Jesus who is called Christ?" Pilate asked. They all answered, "Crucify him!"
"Why? What crime has he committed?" asked Pilate. But they shouted all the louder, "Crucify him!"
When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. "I am innocent of this man's blood," he said. "It is your responsibility!"
All the people answered, "Let his blood be on us and on our children".

benyemen   January 22nd, 2009 4:45 pm ET

To those so called Christian Zionists on here:
8:42 Jesus said to the Jews, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and have come from God, for I have not even come on My own initiative, but He sent Me.”
8:43 “Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you cannot hear My word.”
8:44 “You are of your father the devil and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature; for he is a liar and the father of lies.”
8:45 “But because I speak the truth, you do not believe Me.” [JOHN 8:42-45]

Debbie   January 22nd, 2009 5:20 pm ET

All the people answered, Let his blood be on us and on our children! And it continues, still to this day. What a shame!

dan perman   January 22nd, 2009 7:23 pm ET

jenin, jenin

These same reporters mentioned that the truth that will come out is likely to be similar to what occurred in Operation Defensive Shield in Jenin. “Then, there was first talk of 1,500 deaths. But then it turned out that there were only 54, 45 of which were armed men,” the Palestinian reporters told the Italian newspaper.

dan perman   January 22nd, 2009 7:48 pm ET

The Connection between UNRWA and the Palestinian Terror Organizations in the Gaza Strip
14/01/2009

Lt. Col. (res.) Jonathan D. Halevi | Gaza

In recent years a vast amount of information has accumulated regarding the gradual takeover of UNRWA (United Nations Relief and Works Agency), the UN relief agency for the Palestinian refugees, by Hamas and other Palestinian terror organizations. Awad al-Kik, a teacher at the UNRWA school, who served simultaneously as the head of the engineering and weapons manufacture unit of Islamic Jihad serves as a prominent example.[1]

It has long been known that UNRWA and the Palestinian leadership are contributing to the perpetuation of the refugee problem and the attendant misery of the refugees. It has been noted that despite the fact that Israel in August 2005 retreated from the Gaza strip, the Palestinian Authority, and presently the Hamas government, did not lift a finger to rehabilitate the Palestinian refugee camps.

The reverse is true: the Palestinian leadership made it crystal clear that the government of the Palestinian Authority would not settle the refugees in the areas of the settlements that had been evacuated. This was done so in order to preserve their "right of return".

This argument is completely disingenuous, because an amelioration of the refugees' conditions does not weaken the demand for return or compensation in any shape or manner. It would appear that the interests of the Hamas government and UNRWA dovetail on this matter, namely preventing the dismantlement of the refugee camps, despite the severe privation existing there that promotes extremism, in order to nurture the dream of a return to Palestine, which means Israel.

In recent years a vast amount of information has accumulated regarding the gradual takeover of UNRWA by Hamas and other Palestinian terror organizations. In elections for the UNRWA employees Association on June 14, 2006, Hamas representatives won a resounding victory. Hamas took all 11 seats on the Association allotted to representatives of the 7000 teachers in UNRRA, all 9 of the seats allotted the service sector in UNRWA (physicians, engineers, pharmacists and nurses) and 3 out of the 7 seats allotted the balance of UNRWA employees.

Following the military coup during which Hamas seized power in the Gaza strip (June 2007), there were reports, including from Palestinian human rights organizations, to the effect that armed forces of the Hamas government had taken over institutions belonging to UNRWA in the Gaza Strip and had even housed forces of the Al-Qassam, Brigades, the Hamas military wing, in some of the buildings. Parents of students learning in the UNRWA schools sent a letter to a senior official in UNRWA where they claimed that thousands of teachers belonging to the Al-Qassam brigades were teaching in a UN agency's school. They demanded that an emergency investigation be conducted on the matter.

One of the striking examples illustrating that UNRWA has become a hospitable organisation for Palestinian terror organisations was unveiled during the attack by the Israeli Air Force that targeted a weapons manufacture workshop in Rafah. Among those Killed in the attack was Awad al-Kik (Abu Mohammed), a teacher, educator and UNRRA school principal in Rafah who simultaneously served as the head of Islamic Jihad's engineering and weapons manufacture unit in the southern Gaza strip.

Al-Kik was born in the Jebalya refugee camp and lived in the Rafah refugee camp. He studied at UNRWA schools and excelled in chemistry and physics. After he had completed his academic studies at Al-Azhar University, Al-Kik began a teaching career at the UNRWA schools and rapidly ascended the professional ladder. At a relatively young age he was appointed vice principal of the Ibn Sina elementary school and was subsequently chosen by UNRWA to serve as principal of junior high school "E" until he was killed in an Israeli air force attack.

Already as a high school student, al-Kik joined Islamic Jihad and was active in the high school and college Islamic Jihad student's organization (Al-Jamaa Al-Islamiyya). He subsequently joined the Jerusalem Squads, the military wing of the organization.

Al-Kik's technological training was fully exploited in the framework of his activity. Al-Kik was one of the senior operatives in charge of manufacturing and developing rockets for Islamic Jihad, preparing explosive charges and war materiel as well as training generations of "engineers" on the basis of the knowledge that he had accumulated.

In the summer of 2006 al-Kik visited China where he displayed an interest in light aircraft, possibly for the purpose of purchase/manufacture in order to commit a terror attack against Israel.

Al-Kik's activity in the realm of terror was exposed in September 2007, when he escaped an Israeli assassination attempt. Nevertheless, he continued to serve as a teacher, educator and school principal for UNRWA and involved in educating children and youths in summer camps. It is not clear why after his terror activity had been exposed UNRWA refrained from sacking him from any educational and teaching post at its institutions.

There is little justification for UNRWA's existence if the organization views its entire purpose as preserving the misery of the refugees in the camps. However beyond this the affair of the "terrorist educator" and the Hamas takeover of the UNRWA institutions and work staff should trigger a "warning light" with regard to the possibility that funds transferred to UNRWA by the donor states (including the United States and Canada) find their way to financing the salaries of Hamas and Islamic Jihad activists.

This matter requires an urgent investigation, and in any case, UNRWA would be well advised to channel hundreds of millions of dollars from its budget to clear out the refugee camps and rehabilitate their inhabitants in new and more spacious towns. The donor states should pose this as a preliminary condition to their continued assistance to UNRWA.

--------------------------–

[1] http://www.alquds.com/node/23120

Tom   January 22nd, 2009 9:04 pm ET

All efforts to make peace in the Middle East are doomed to fail. The Muslim terrorists will never accept peace with Israel. They only want to kill every last Jew from the face of the earth. They are consumed with hatred. Israel is very naive. They think by being nice to the Palestinians they can buy peace. No way! Now Obama will try and fail as all the rest. The fact is that there will not be peace there until Jesus Christ returns to kill all Israel's enemies. Then there will be peace,not before!

Solomon   January 22nd, 2009 10:38 pm ET

Ant brain.
do you know what is in that link that you provided,

in that article it only said about the racist and Murderous state of Israel. how stupid can you be ?at least have some one to translate it for you, ant brain

Hope   January 23rd, 2009 3:38 pm ET

Ahhh.. indeed hopeless and yada yada yada..you nailed it, you clever big fella!
Demonic state of Israel, blessed with an impressive military capability, prides itself in exterminating a great number of human refugees in such a short period of time...
Is this how you people feel good about yourselves?

WINNERS.......congratulations

I.B. Wright   January 23rd, 2009 7:15 pm ET

Yeah, OK Hope. I guess there wouldn't be much satisfaction gained in beating up on an unarmed child..... Although some people like it.

Hope   January 24th, 2009 2:54 am ET

Sorry I.B. Wright...got distracted by Brandon..he is one of my most challenging e.d students..

what was I saying, oh, (Big Bird, from Sesame Street) did a demo on how to Blow up a tunnel, the SOB pissed on himself.

Twice!..

Not sure why, the idiot is either overly excited, or just consumed by

F E A R

M Ariely   January 24th, 2009 8:19 am ET

IRLAND HAS WESTERN MENTHALITY

WESTERN MENTHALITY AND POLITIC SOLUTIONS ARE NOT APLICABLE TO THE ME
!!!!!!!!*************!!!!!!!!
Hams leader statement is correct!!

'THE WEST DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE ARAB OR MUSLEM MENTALITY"

!!!!!!!!*************!!!!!!!!

Hamas leader Khaled Mash'a Al-Jazeera TV on February 3, 2006 on Arabic language:

The West do not understand the Arab or Muslim mentality

1:The Nation of Islam Will Sit at the Throne of the World, leadership of the world.

2:European countries: Hurry up and apologize to our nation, because if you do not, you will regret it

3:You are fighting against peoples that doest not tire, even after a 1,000 years of fighting , for whom death for the sake of Allah, and for the sake of honor and glory, is preferable to life

3:Pakistan popped up with Islamic nuclear weapons, and they are afraid of Iran and several Arab countries have some chemical weapons

4:We don't want conventional wars. We have imposed a new equation in the war

5:Western world, and in the American administration. Allah has come to them from where they did not expect him

Pipoyo   January 25th, 2009 5:26 am ET

Habeas corpus set them free and they will be dropped where they were picked up or their country origine. In the other hand, those who are hidden and supported OBL will be killed if they prevent justice to do its course and to quote a blogger, " no prisoners this time"

Somehow, at the end Congress must end this war too if Al Queda is no longer a threat to US and its allied.

President Obama will end the War in Iraq because there were no WMD, and no link of Saddan to 9/11. He must settle the issue of statehood in the Land of Palestine so Jew and arab extremist can settle for peace, unity, tolerance and forgiveness and that issue is the center of jihadist violence mouvement in the muslim world. He must also develop democracy, freedom of religion, market economic in the middle east to fight poverty, disease ,ect in order to ease the mind of many in the region . The only loser in this conflict is the people of Christian faith who don't want a piece of this holy land. Ooops!, forget Vatican.

No question, the economic situation is more important in the mind of American than for a 250 muslin/arad supporters caught in the line of fire and were lucky to be alive on top of torturing them to seek whereabout of OBL and its supporters.

Many died in 9/11, and somehow they deserved justice , President Obama.

--------------------------–

M Ariely   January 25th, 2009 5:59 am ET

CONFLICT MANAGEMENT MECHANISM WILL BE A HUGE SUCCESS
====================================================
The best Ms Mitchell can achieve is a conflict management.
1:Ms Mitchell cannot change the Arabs world inspiration
Arabs inspirations can be
CHANGED ONLY FROM INSIDE BY ARABS
The large picture is the Arabs desire of either;
WORLDWIDE RULE ISLAM or PAN ARABISM FROM THE ATLANTIC TO THE PERSIAN GULF
Unfortunately-There are no CHANGE movements of those inspirations
Replacing the above desires with one that
ACCEPT MULTICULTURAL will take generations

2:The Arabs Israel conflict is only 1 conflict among
MANY WORLDWIDE CONFLICTS Arabs are involved.
Solution: Arabs accepting the
RIGHT OF EXISTANCE OF ISRAEL AS A JEWS
Israel DESIRED PEACE and good relations with Arabs from day 1.
However Arabs DESIRED DESTRUCTION of Israel from day 1
The difference between the 2 Arab political movements is only tactical
The Islamist: No peace- War up Israel distractions
The non-Islamizes:Temporary peace .Use of step doctrine and refugees as tools up total destruction

3:Arabs are saying correctly that the west
DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE ME MENTHALITY
4: Hopefuly Ms Mitchell has understands of the principle of Al Takeyya permitting DOUBLE LANGUAGE AND LIE and will insists that the SAME AGREEMENT MEANING WILL BE IN ENGLISH AND ARABIC languages
A: Muslims are permitted to LIE TO INFIDELS
B; The real meaning is spoken only in Arab language

Logan   January 26th, 2009 9:29 pm ET

Why do we question Sky, when the whole world including the UN and the HRW, are keeping a blind eye to a systematic genocide, something they also did with Rwanda.

Later they apologised for not doing anything in time !

The issues in Israel are about 6 million against 1 million Palestinians in Gaza, but in Sri Lanka 21 million against over 2.5 million Tamils.

Perhaps this is because Tamils don’t have, green eyes , blond hair and white skin nor a oil well !

http://eurotvlive.com/download/20090124/20090124_UDAYAR_KATTU_SUTHENDRA_PURAM_SHELL_ATTACK.wmv

Dennis Junior   January 27th, 2009 3:52 am ET

It is nice that President Obama is making the correct steps and making calls to MidEast leaders....

M Ariely   January 27th, 2009 9:59 am ET

THINK TWICE:

Think twice before supporting Hamas and Islamist organizations and sponsering countries saying and doing:
1:Abd Al-Bari 'Atwan, interview aired on BBC Arabic TV on November 7, 2008:
In an Arab Country,

OBAMA WOULD BE TOLD: 'YOU ARE A SALVE

2:daily Al-Ayyam, October 25, 2008

CHRISTIANS ARE BEING PERSECUTED IN MOST ARAB COUNTRIES

, regardless of their numbers there. They are subjected to every possible kind of discrimination, as well as expulsion. Today, this problemrampant in Iraq, Egypt, Lebanon, Algeria, and Palestine

3:'Quote from Hamas charter- Artivle 5
The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight jews and kill them
Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees,and therocks and trees will cry out:

O MOSLEM THERE IS A JEW BEHIND ME, COME AND KILL HIM
------------------------------
On countrary think either the people with the following human values desire your support:
1:Helen Suzman a SA Jew for 13 years the only MP to condemn apartheid was twice-nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Archbishop Desmond Tutu said;

SA OWED HER AN ENORMOUS DEBT IN THE STRUGGLE AGAINST APARTHEID

2: Jews Goodman and Schwerner and a black Chaney,civil rights working to register black voters

MURDERED IN MISSIPPI BY MEMBERS OF THE KU KUX KLAN 1964

3:Rabbi Gendler of Great Barrington

JAILED 1962 IN ALABNLY WITH MARTIN LUTHER KING

for protesting segregation practices

marasu   January 28th, 2009 11:20 pm ET

President Barack Obama approach on resolving the conflict with the Middle East seems to be the correct approach. Although the Middle East is suffering from brutal and deadly attacks that are being recognized across the nation, the initiative of Barack Obama to place calls to several leaders in the Middle East shows the courage and peace making process. President Barack Obama is showing that peace is actually going to work. The issues that have been facing the countries should be resolved and we as a nation should work together and help each other. I believe that this is the first step that President Barack Obama will demonstrate our peace efforts to make this a peaceful world.

fienuetrearee   December 29th, 2010 9:21 am ET

Hi:

I have been reviewing insidethemiddleeast.blogs.cnn.com as being a lurker for your time now.
I made a decision that I might as well get involved and socialize with the folks here.
I'm expecting to make contact with loads of entertaining persons and learn some excellent stuff.

I hope this doesn't end up in a bad category. I'm hoping you'll forgive me if this is inappropriate.

------–

ROYAL HUMPHREY
Speech Pathologist


subscribe RSS Icon
About this blog

This blog has now been archived and commenting has been switched off. Visit the Inside the Middle East site for news, views and video from across the region.

Read more about CNN's special reports policy

Categories