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Marcia Cross Speaks out About Contracting Cancer; May Jobs Numbers; Biden Reverses Abortion Stance. Aired 8:30-9a ET

Aired June 7, 2019 - 08:30   ET

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MARCIA CROSS, ACTRESS: I was so not thinking anything was wrong because I didn't have any symptoms and she gave me an exam and she kind of came around and said, well, I just want you to know, whatever it is, it's curable. Where you're just like, what? What are you talk about?

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ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: "Desperate Housewives" star Marcia Cross speaking out and raising awareness about the dangers of HPV, or human papillomavirus. The actress revealing that doctors believe her anal cancer and her husband's throat cancer came from the same HPV strain.

Joining us now to talk about this we have Dr. Tara Shirazian. She's a gynecologist at NYU-Langone Health.

Doctor, thanks so much for being here.

This is very brave of Marcia Cross to come out and reveal something so personal. And she's doing it because she doesn't think, and I would agree with her, that most Americans know how common and how dangerous HPV can be. Something like 80 million Americans are currently infected with it.

DR. TARANEH SHIRAZIAN, GYNECOLOGIST, NYU LANGONE HEALTH: Yes, it's an extremely common sexually acquired virus, yes.

CAMEROTA: And of those, how many will develop cancer? Are all of those strains of HPV linked to cancer?

SHIRAZIAN: No. I will say that 75 percent of strains HPV-16 and 18 are linked to cancers of some type.

CAMEROTA: And so what are we to take away from this? I mean I know that there is a shot that people can -- a vaccine, I should say, that people can get. Should everybody be getting an HPV vaccine?

SHIRAZIAN: Well, I think the vaccine is highly effective. So everyone should know that the current vaccines do protect against 16 and 18, which are the two strains that cause the vast majority of cancers. So I do think that all young men and women, boys and girls, should be vaccinated. So boys are included in that.

CAMEROTA: That's interesting. Is that new? Because I remember going to -- taking my kids to the pediatrician and for a while only the girls were offered the HPV vaccine.

SHIRAZIAN: Right.

[08:35:04] CAMEROTA: But now it's both?

SHIRAZIAN: It's both. And that's an extremely important point. Boys should be vaccinated as well because men are often carriers of HPV and spread HPV. And so in vaccinating both, we decrease the number of HPV viral infections in the population.

CAMEROTA: Because, let's face it, Marcia Cross' husband, his throat cancer, and I've heard this of other people's throat cancer, that is often HPV linked.

SHIRAZIAN: They are both likely HPV linked. Yes.

CAMEROTA: So how old do you recommend people begin getting this vaccination?

SHIRAZIAN: So, yes, I mean, it's really, as far as vaccination in general goes, the earlier the better. So really starting at like 11 or 12 would be optimal. But now we're sort of expanding the range at which we offer the vaccine to men and women. So I will say it's really never a bad idea to get vaccinated, even if you're in your 20s or 30s, especially if you think you'll have more sexual partners over the course of your lifetime.

CAMEROTA: Well, what about that? I mean you're recommending that young adolescents get it before, obviously, they're sexually active.

SHIRAZIAN: Right.

CAMEROTA: So why not wait until they're a little older?

SHIRAZIAN: Well, because the younger you get the vaccine, the more effective it is. It's always -- it's like that with any vaccine, which is why we have a whole vaccine -- childhood vaccine strategy where we vaccinate young kids with MMR and things like that. So the younger you get the vaccine, the more it will offer you over the course of your lifetime, right? So it is good to get vaccinated young, but I think there is also some benefit to getting vaccinated, even when you're older, if you will have more sexual partners especially.

CAMEROTA: Well, again, Marcia Cross is doing everyone a favor by talking about this so publicly.

SHIRAZIAN: Yes.

CAMEROTA: She didn't have to. She is a well-known actress and obviously it's really personal, but people today will think twice about doing this for their kids and themselves.

So, Dr. Shirazian, thank you so much for being here with all the information.

SHIRAZIAN: Thank you for having me.

CAMEROTA: John.

JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: All right, thanks, Alisyn.

We do have breaking news.

The government just released the May jobs report. Christine Romans breaks down the numbers for us, next.

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[08:40:54] BERMAN: All right, breaking news, the Labor Department just released the May jobs report and these numbers very, very different than what we've been seeing.

Christine Romans here with the numbers.

Romans.

CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CHIEF BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: A really -- a really big stutter, I would say, in the jobs market here. Not a lot of appetite for big companies to hire. Only 75,000 net new jobs created in the month of May. And what's interesting and troubling is the two prior months, which were nice and strong, they were revised lower. So another 75,000 jobs lopped off of there. So a little bit of a weaker spring than we had been thinking of.

Let me give you some context.

Last year, on average, about 220,000 new jobs every month. This year we're averaging about 169,000 new jobs. And in May, it was half of that. So something happened there to spook employers.

The employment rate, though, stays steady at 3.6 percent. You had about 176,000 people who left the labor market. So these two -- these two different surveys, that's what they tell us.

Among the sectors, business still strong, healthcare strong, construction only 4,000. That's a lot less than we've been seeing in the prior months. So a slowdown there in construction hiring is one of the reasons we're seeing this happen.

Futures, though, are up a little bit. And why? Because the market is counting on the fact that if the president's trade wars dent growth, hurt hiring, hurt the U.S. economy, the Fed will be forced to come in and cut interest rates. So there's a little bit of a safety net under investors right now because they think the Fed won't let President Trump sink the U.S. economy.

John. Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: OK, Christine, really interesting. BERMAN: Yes, the politics and the policy of this are fascinating. And

this complicates a lot, folks, including the China negotiations, maybe the negotiations for Mexican tariffs. There's a lot going on here. So --

CAMEROTA: All right, here's what else to watch today.

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ON SCREEN TEXT: 9:30 a.m., President Trump departs for D.C.

5:45 p.m., O'Rourke Iowa town hall.

8:00 p.m., Harris Alabama meet and greet.

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CAMEROTA: I know you appreciate my accompaniment to that song, which I often provide --

BERMAN: Yes, what you don't hear -- what you don't hear is Alisyn singing along.

CAMEROTA: Some day I will share that greatness with all of you.

BERMAN: Some day.

CAMEROTA: Meanwhile, Joe Biden reversing course on federal funding for abortions after intense criticism. What does this tell us about his campaign? "The Bottom Line" with David Axelrod, next.

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[08:47:37] BERMAN: The vast majority of the 2020 Democratic candidates are heading to Iowa this weekend, but frontrunner Joe Biden will not be there. The former vice president reversed course on a major issue that's very important to Democratic issues last night. He announced he no longer supports a ban on federal funding for abortions.

We want to get "The Bottom Line" with CNN's senior political commentator David Axelrod.

David, since you've been with us, I've only known you to be incredibly kind and gentle well Democratic candidates. You, though, call what happened with the Biden campaign the last few days a mess. Explain.

DAVID AXELROD, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I will not deal with the premise of your question. There are a lot of Democrats who complain that I haven't been gentle.

But, look, I think that this was a parable about Biden that goes to question marks about his candidacy. He's been -- his rollout was flawless in my view and he's had a very solid spring.

But this underscores questions that people have had about whether he can go the distance. One, because the virtue of having a long record and comforting people and being a figure of stability has the flip side that you have to defend positions that you've had over the course of 45 years in politics, some of which may have been acceptable in the -- in the day and not acceptable now. We see that on this issue of the Hyde Amendment.

But the other is the way this thing came down. Joe Biden was out on his -- on the campaign and he's not been out that much and a voter challenged him on the question of Hyde, video was rolling and he said he would reverse that policy. Then, the next day, the campaign -- or when it came to light, the campaign put out a statement and said, no, he still believes in the Hyde Amendment. Then there was a furor and last night he flipped again. So that was a flip, flop, flip, which is never a good thing in politics. And it raises questions about his own performance and his own steadiness and his campaign's performance.

So this was not a good -- you know, beyond the issue itself, this was not a reassuring episode for the Biden campaign.

CAMEROTA: A flip, flop, flip, also known as a triple Axelrod.

But it --

AXELROD: Oh, very good.

CAMEROTA: You're welcome.

BERMAN: Wow.

CAMEROTA: But --

AXELROD: And on a Friday morning.

CAMEROTA: But --

AXELROD: Yes.

CAMEROTA: But here's my question, has Donald Trump broken the public's appetite for consistency? I mean he, obviously, changes his position on a daily or hourly basis. Perhaps we've passed the era where voters still care about consistent positions.

[08:50:14] AXELROD: Maybe, or maybe people will be looking for an alternative that offers more stability than he has offered. So I just don't know. I mean it's a very good question, have the standards changed?

But, you know, here's the issue with Biden, and people don't like to approach it, but he's 76 years old, he'd be 78 when he became president and that would be eight years older than the oldest president who's ever taken office, which is Donald Trump. And there are questions about that. And if you are unsteady on the campaign trail, that is going to intensify those questions. So this is one reason I think they've kept them at -- on a relatively leisurely pace on the campaign trail and away from some of the major events and away from reporters, frankly, because they are worried about things just such as the one we've just seen BERMAN: Let me, on the subject of interviews that Joe Biden might not

like, you spoke to former Defense Secretary Robert Gates. Gates has been critical of Joe Biden. I think -- well, let's play the clip because I think actually you explain what Gates has said about Biden in the past in this.

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AXELROD: One of the guys in the room was Vice President Biden, who's now running for president. He clashed with the Pentagon and with the leadership over Afghanistan. And you've been fairly critical of him, at one point said he was wrong on every foreign policy issue for 40 years.

Would you be comfortable with him as commander in chief?

ROBERT GATES, FORMER SECRETARY OF DEFENSE: Well, I think we'd have to wait and see. I don't want to go down that road with anybody, frankly. I think the vice president did have some issues with the military and I did say that recently that I stand by the statement that I thought he'd been wrong about most foreign policy issues for 40 years, especially during the Cold War.

But in truth, apart from Afghanistan, there were a number of issues he and I agreed on. He's obviously got a lot of experience, chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee for a long time and, you know, we'll just have to see how these things play out.

AXELROD: You can't say whether you'd be comfortable with him as commander in chief? Are you -- are you comfortable with the current commander in chief?

GATES: Well, I'm just not going to go down that road.

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BERMAN: He didn't go down that road, Axe, but he kind of did a little.

AXELROD: Yes, sometimes not going down the road is going down the road. And, you know, Gates is very, very precise, as you know, in how he uses language. He clearly has objections to Biden, but he also has objections to Donald Trump. And throughout this show, he spoke to that. He, you know, on tariffs, on his handling of Putin, on a whole series of issues he was very, very surgically critical of the president.

BERMAN: I've got to say, a big, news making "Axe Files." You can watch the former secretary of defense, Robert Gates, on "The Axe Files" tomorrow at 7:00 p.m. Eastern.

David, thank you so much to you.

CAMEROTA: David, thank you.

CNN is rolling out a new movie focused series next month that examines how films have shaped pop culture and social norms throughout the decades. As part of the rollout, several CNN anchors star in promos for the series highlighting specific movies, including yours truly and me.

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CAMEROTA: It's not bad (ph).

BERMAN: May I?

CAMEROTA: Sure.

ANNOUNCER: "The Movies," coming this summer.

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CAMEROTA: That --

BERMAN: This is what you need to know, that every CNN anchor did this, a lot of them. They will tell you they did a good job. It wasn't as good as what we just did. We had the toughest movie to promote and I think we nailed it.

CAMEROTA: Thank you. I agree. I mean it only took us something like 8,500 takes.

BERMAN: Yes. You were great.

CAMEROTA: That -- thank you.

BERMAN: You were really, really good in that.

CAMEROTA: I really felt that I was in character here.

BERMAN: Yes. Yes.

CAMEROTA: Expressing skepticism of you going mad, basically.

BERMAN: Yes. Yes.

CAMEROTA: And you nailed it. You were so in character the whole time. You wouldn't even break out of character like when we were having snacks and stuff.

BERMAN: I felt I came in a little hot now watching it, but, again, very good performance.

CAMEROTA: We hope you enjoy that CNN series.

BERMAN: All right, taking a turn here, he was wrongfully convicted when he was just 20 years old and locked up in a Texas prison for 15 years. Now, after a full exoneration, this week's CNN hero, Richard Miles, is using his new-found freedom to help others transform their lives after prison.

[08:55:05] (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RICHARD MILES, CNN HERO: My mom would always tell me, when you look out the window, don't look at the bars, look at the sky. I could change my perception within the place of the incarceration.

At the end of the day, be confident in your change.

The idea really started from inside. People get out and they come right back in. I said, if I ever get out, man, we're going to start a program and we're going to help people.

Acknowledgment, transparency and forgiveness. These are the three essential things we need when we're coming back home.

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BERMAN: Wow. To see more of Richard's incredible story, go to cnnheroes.com and do it right now.

CAMEROTA: All right, we've been following breaking news all morning about this near collision between a U.S. and a Russian warship. So our coverage picks up after this break.

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