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Trump's U.K. Visit Turns From Pageantry to Policy & Protests; CNN Poll: Biden Leads Crowded 2020 Dems Field; Biden Unveils Plan to Fight Climate Change; Sources: 'Executed' North Korean Envoy is Alive. Aired 6-6:30a ET
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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Stick around. Let's do this deal.
[05:59:41] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: President Trump is set to meet with outgoing Prime Minister Theresa May.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You have a man who knows nothing about the European Union, giving kind of trade advice.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: People will actually share his view about the way Brexit is being handled.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: New details from Joe Biden revealing a key new policy plan.
SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN (D-MA), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Our country is in a time of crisis. The time for small ideas is over.
ALEX TREBEK, HOST, "JEOPARDY": What did you wager? Oh, gosh. 20,000. What a payday: 46,801.
ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Alisyn Camerota and John Berman.
ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: I haven't seen it yet. What happened?
JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: The king is dead. Long live the queen. Emma Boettcher, she's the bomb.
CAMEROTA: Oh, my gosh. I can't wait to recap the whole "Jeopardy" drama.
BERMAN: It was super exciting.
All right. Welcome to our viewers in the United States and all around the world. This is NEW DAY. It's Tuesday, June 4, 6 a.m. here in New York.
Happening now, from the pomp to the problematic, and then there are the protests. This is the day where things get complicated for President Trump in London.
As we speak, he's in the middle of a series of meetings with the British prime minister, Theresa May. She begins the process of stepping down on Friday. The leaders are discussing trade and, in the past, the president has not been shy about putting himself in the middle of the Brexit chaos. We will hear from both leaders later this morning at a joint press conference which we will carry live.
CAMEROTA: So protesters are taking to the streets of London right now. Here is a live shot for you.
BERMAN: I feel like -- I feel like the banner is delicately placed for discretion.
CAMEROTA: You're right. Because otherwise, this would be one obscene baby balloon.
BERMAN: That's right.
CAMEROTA: The baby balloon is back. It is soaring above Parliament Square. Thousands are expected to protest the president's visit to the U.K.
And we've got a recap of the pageantry and opulent state dinner at Buckingham Palace last night. The president toasting Queen Elizabeth. The first lady and all four of Mr. Trump's adult children were in the spotlight. We have just learned what gift the president gave to the queen.
CAMEROTA: We have it all covered for you. So let's begin with CNN's Max Foster, live in London with more. What's the latest, Max?
MAX FOSTER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Alisyn, the gift from the president to the queen was a Tiffany broach. Also, Prince Philip receiving a personalized Air Force One jacket and a book. President Trump about to arrive in Downing Street, as well. And we're told that the prime minister will be presenting him with a gift, as well. A gift in the form of a draft of the Atlantic Charter, in the words of Downing Street, one of the first steps towards the formation of the United Nations. So another nod towards those post-war institutions. Another reminder for President Trump. He had one, of course, yesterday from the queen, as well, during her speech at Buckingham Palace.
So the gifts are doing the rounds today. Also for the first lady, a tea set. It's been a very British visit.
FOSTER (voice-over): President Trump begins a politically packed second day of his U.K. state visit alongside Prime Minister Theresa May as her tenure comes to a close.
TRUMP: Stick around. Let's do this deal. OK?
FOSTER: The two leaders starting with a business round table meeting before having substantial bilateral discussions alongside delegations from the United States and the United Kingdom.
TRUMP: I think we'll have a very, very substantial trade deal.
FOSTER: In Mr. Trump's entourage, his daughter and advisor, Ivanka. A source tells CNN that May will focus on trade, highlighting how economic ties between the two nations will become more critical in the wake of Brexit.
The president tweeting on Monday, a big trade deal is possible once U.K. gets rid of the shackles. Before landing in the U.K., President Trump providing his own commentary on British politics, slamming May's handling of Brexit negotiations. In an interview with "The Sun," saying --
TRUMP: They didn't give the European Union anything to lose.
FOSTER: Trump also praising two of May's main critics. Conservative prime minister hopeful Boris Johnson.
TRUMP: Well, I may meet with him. He's been a friend of mine.
FOSTER: And Brexit enthusiast, Nigel Farage.
TRUMP: I have a very good relationship with Nigel Farage, with many people over there. And we'll see what happens.
FOSTER: In between the tweets and diplomacy, Mr. Trump's hosts treating him to the pomp and circumstance fit for the queen.
President Trump and the first lady taking part in a jam-packed tour on their first day, including viewing artifacts in the royal collection at Buckingham Palace. Attending a wreath-laying ceremony at Westminster Abbey. Tea with Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, and ending again at Buckingham Palace, where the Trump family brushed shoulders with princes and princesses.
QUEEN ELIZABETH, UNITED KINGDOM: Tonight we celebrate an alliance that has helped to ensure the safety and prosperity of both our peoples for decades.
FOSTER: President Trump thanking the queen for her hospitality at the state white tie banquet.
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I offer a toast to the eternal friendship of our people, the vitality of our nations and to the long-cherished and truly remarkable reign of her majesty, the queen.
FOSTER: About business round table this morning, it's in James' palace. The president getting very positive signs about a possible trade deal with the U.K. after Brexit, which is exactly what the British government is looking for.
[06:05:14] At Downing Street, he's probably going to be pushing for some movement on Huawei. He doesn't want Huawei involved in 5G networks in the U.K. That's something that the government could give back to him. We'll wait to see on that. If yesterday was all about pomp and pageantry, Alisyn, today is all about politics and protests.
CAMEROTA: All right, Max. Thank you very much.
As you say, not everyone is excited about the president's visit. Thousands of anti-Trump protesters will take to the streets of London as President Trump meets with the British prime minister.
The baby is back. It's a familiar sight, soaring above the protesters.
And CNN's Nick Paton Walsh is live in London's Parliament Square with more. What are you seeing there, Nick?
NICK PATON WALSH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Alisyn, just a bit of an explanation. If you haven't seen it before, that is a giant inflatable Donald Trump in a diaper. We saw it last year. He himself considered it something of an insult, and I spoke to a protest organizer again today about the decision to bring it back. He said, yes, it's an insult, in his words, because Donald Trump is an idiot.
There's a lot of hostility here amongst the crowd. The occasional Trump supporter does walk in, but there are some signs, frankly, that aren't decent to show you on morning television.
But this, in fact, has a checkered history since it was flown last year. The London museum has, in fact, asked for it to become a relic there and, in fact, in repost shortly afterwards. Supporters of President Trump had an inflatable version of the London mayor, Sadiq Khan. He's been a strong critic of the White House occupant. They put a version of him up in a bikini.
But today we're expected to see tens of thousands of protesters gathering here and further up Trafalgar Square behind me there, where in fact, there will be a robotic Donald Trump on a toilet.
Over here, just slightly obscured by the growing crowd, there's a Donald Trump as a gorilla in a cage there. He was earlier joined by a version of Boris Johnson, who was one of the potential running candidates here for prime minister in the United Kingdom, in the very febrile political environment that Donald Trump has walked into. And I'm sure he'll be stirring more of later on today.
But this sense of hostility here, I think is amplified by the fact he's walked into the peak of Britain's Brexit crisis. Theresa May leaving power on Friday and many, really, not wanting to see the U.S. commander in chief here at all -- John.
BERMAN: All right. An interesting morning in London. Nick Paton Walsh, we'll come back to you as those protests develop. Thanks very much.
Breaking news this morning. A brand-new CNN poll, just weeks ahead of the first debate in the Democratic race. CNN's David Chalian live in Washington with the breaking numbers.
David, what do you see?
DAVID CHALIAN, CNN POLITICAL DIRECTOR: John, take a look at this latest horse race. Brand-new CNN numbers in a poll conducted by SSRS.
Joe Biden, still the dominant frontrunner, 32 percent. Bernie Sanders in a second-place tier by himself, 18 percent. Harris at 8, Warren at 7. Buttigieg and O'Rourke round out the top six or so down at 5 percent.
Let's compare to last month. It's actually a remarkably stable race. Yes, Joe Biden lost a little bit of altitude from 39 to 32. This was the post-announcement glow.
But still a big front runner. Otherwise, you see a very stable race. Harris up three. Warren about the same. Buttigieg and O'Rourke down a point or two. A very stable race.
One factor that Joe Biden should start being a little bit concerned about, or at least a warning sign. Democratic voters under 45. The youth vote in this primary, this is one place that we see a real drop. Thirty-one percent in April. Now it's 19 percent for Biden, under 45.
Sanders is the winner. He's at 26 percent amongst young voters, and you see the rest are all in single digits.
We also wanted to show you about the strength of support. If you are with a candidate, are you going to be with the candidate all the way through? Forty-four percent of Democratic primary voters say that they are definitely going to support the candidate they're with now. That number is up about 8 points from last month. So more people feeling more solid in their choices.
This is another reason I want to show you as to why you may not hear a lot of Donald Trump's name on the campaign trail if you're paying attention to a lot of these town halls. Democrats say, by a huge majority, 81 percent of them, "I want the candidate to unify the party around policy positions, not around dissatisfaction with Donald Trump." Only 15 percent of Democrats want to hear that.
And then, of course, you know we've got 23 Democratic candidates in this race. Is that a good thing or a bad thing, we asked Democrats. Fifty-three percent, a slim majority, say it's a good thing; 45 percent say that is not a good thing for the party -- Alisyn.
CAMEROTA: Forty-four percent already feel strongly about their candidates before the debates? That's incredible.
CAMEROTA: David Chalian.
And I don't -- and I don't fully buy it. I've got to imagine these campaigns are going to matter as the months move forward. [06:10:08] You -- we must believe that. Yes, David Chalian. Thank
you very much.
Also new this morning, Vice President Joe Biden releasing a plan to fight climate change. CNN's Arlette Saenz is live in North Conway, New Hampshire, with the details. I know his critics have been clamoring for this. So what does it say?
ARLETTE SAENZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Alisyn. Joe Biden is releasing his climate plan today after weeks of promising this proposal. And this comes as some in his party have criticized him, saying that his plan won't go far enough.
But this morning, Biden is releasing that proposal, along with a video talking about climate change. And Biden says that the Green New Deal, which has become a litmus test for many Democrats, that that is a critical framework when it comes to combatting climate challenges in this country.
But then he goes onto lay out some of the details of his own plan. So let's get into some of that right now. His plan aims to eliminate greenhouse gas emissions by 2050. He would also push Congress to enact legislation that would establish an enforcement mechanism to make sure that these goals are reached. He wants to get that bill within his first year of office.
Biden would also push to reenter the Paris climate agreement which President Trump withdrew from on his first day in office.
And how much is this all going to cost? Biden campaign estimates it has a price tag of $1.7 trillion over 10 years. They say they will pay for that by rolling back some of the tax cuts that were implemented by the Trump administration.
Now, this comes following a report that suggested Biden would take a middle-ground approach when it comes to climate change to appeal to both Democrats and general electorate, potentially, Trump voters, as well.
And I had the Chance to ask Biden about some of that criticism, including criticism that he faced from New York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
When we were here in New Hampshire three weeks ago, Biden insisted to me that he has never been middle-of-the road on the environment and that his plan would be bold enough. We'll be hearing from Biden later today here in New Hampshire in Berlin and Concord. We'll see if this plan satisfies some of his critics -- John.
BERMAN: All right, Arlette Saenz. We'll digest that plan, have much more on it as the show develops. Arlette Saenz in North Conway, New Hampshire. Thanks so much.
Also breaking this morning, sources tell CNN exclusively the North Korean diplomat who was reportedly executed by a firing squad is actually alive and in state custody. CNN's Will Ripley, who's been doing some terrific reporting on this.
Live in Hong Kong for us with this CNN exclusive. This is developing in a very interesting way. Explain, Will.
WILL RIPLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It is. Because John, these are the people who were sitting side by side with President Trump and members of the administration in Hanoi and even in the Oval Office.
I want to show you this photo of Kim Hyok Chol from earlier this year when he was sitting right next to President Trump, listening as they were talking about denuclearization.
We know that those talks are now stalled. And Kim Jong-un was furious after the summit in Hanoi fell apart without a deal. The North Koreans were shocked when the president walked out. And soon after they arrived back in Pyongyang, we are learning that the punishments started to be dealt with severity.
Kim Hyok Chol, who you see there, is in custody right now. He was reported executed by a firing squad in South Korea. Several sources have told me that's not true, but he is not out of the woods. His punishment could be severe, I'm told.
We're also learning about the lead nuclear negotiator, the counterpart for the U.S. secretary of state, Mike Pompeo. That is Kim Yong Chol, North Korea's ex-spy master. He was one of the most powerful people in North Korea.
I am told now that his power has been almost completely stripped, even though he did appear in a photo over the weekend, sitting at an art performance with Kim Jong-un. I'm told that was more to show that he is still alive and not in a labor camp, which is what South Korean media reported.
He wasn't in a labor camp, but his punishment -- and he was out of the public eye for nearly two months. I'm told he had to sit in his office in silence and write repeatedly what he did wrong. Sentences of self-criticism.
That's how it works in North Korea. Giving time out a whole new level, Alisyn.
CAMEROTA: Absolutely. What a window into how it works there in North Korea. Thank you very much, Will.
BERMAN: All right. I think we have some live pictures we want to show you right now. This is 10 Downing Street, of course, in London, the residence of the British prime minister.
And the president and Theresa May are arriving as we speak. This is part of their day-long series of meetings. They've just finished up a meeting on trade and business development.
Is that the first lady?
CAMEROTA: That's the first lady, yes, and the president arriving there.
BERMAN: Obviously, the first lady was a big part of the ceremonies yesterday. Interacting with the Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall.
CAMEROTA: So this is a -- there we go. There's the prime minister, greeting the president and first lady. And it's going to be a very interesting meeting that they have about policy, because they are not on the same page.
BERMAN: No. To say the least. It's interesting. They've already had this one meeting on trade. And the president joked that Theresa May, who was beginning the process of stepping down on Friday, basically said, "Why don't you stick around and we can get a good deal done?" Well, she can't stick around at this point. She's already announced she is on the way out. And there are plenty of people wondering what can actually be accomplished, given that she is very much a lame duck this week.
CAMEROTA: Well, I mean, therein lies the rub, is that they're negotiating with Theresa May, but you know, she's on her way out. But she -- her side has made it sound as though this is a real negotiation. This is not just, you know, protocol. This is not just a lame duck session, that they are really going to try to cement some things in this relationship.
BERMAN: I believe we have Matthew Chance outside 10 Downing Street. Matthew, what do you see?
OK, we don't have -- we don't have him. Max Foster, Max Foster is there. Max, what do you see?
MAX FOSTER, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, it's interesting this meeting. Obviously, you described Theresa May as a lame duck. She is literally resigning, going to Buckingham Palace on Friday to resign as prime minister. So she's not getting a one-on-one with President Trump within Downing Street. What she's going to have is a round table involving many members of government. Many of whom are running to replace her. Jeremy Hunt amongst them.
Also, they'll be getting a tour, as well, of Downing Street. There will be some drinks out in the back garden for Downing Street staff and staff of the American embassy, as well.
So another history moment in there. It's a bit of a cabin. It's like you go in and it looks like a very quaint little lobby there, and then it goes -- the corridors go on and on and on. So I think he'll be fascinated to see what he finds in there.
But also, I think what's going to be interesting is where I am. Actually, later on there's this gap between his Westminster meetings and his banquets at the embassy or the residence behind me later on. So there's a four-hour gap. So we're wondering what's going to be happening in that private time, as it were.
And lots of speculation about whether or not he'll be meeting Farage, Boris Johnson and potentially Michael Gove, as well. That's another of the front runners. Could be having meetings here at Winfield House a bit later on.
BERMAN: You know, in those meetings there are distinctions between all of those characters there. Boris Johnson seen as a very possible successor to Theresa May. And it wouldn't be out of the ordinary for a U.S. president to meet with someone who could very well be the next prime minister.
But Nigel Farage is seen as a divisive figure, much more political. And a meeting with him, Max, that might make a statement that would rile up British politics. Explain.
FOSTER: Well, Nigel Farage is pushing to be involved in the Brexit negotiations. He's the one, really, that created all the atmosphere that led to the referendum in the first place, caused huge political eruptions.
But his party doesn't have any members of Parliament. It did pretty well in the European actions. But that's pretty irrelevant, considering Britain's leaving the European Union and won't have any Parliamentary members over in Europe anyway.
So he wants to get involved in the Brexit negotiations. All of the contenders in the Conservative Party are very keen to keep him out. President Trump also is supporting Farage getting involved in those negotiations.
So it will be very interesting if President Trump meets Boris Johnson, for example, Michael Gove, for example, and says, "A condition of my support would be that you need to bring Nigel Farage into those negotiations." But it would be a huge step into British politics. We can't put that past President Trump, of course.
CAMEROTA: We were just watching other guests arriving at 10 Downing Street. I think we saw Ivanka Trump there, maybe Sarah Sanders entering there. We know the president is traveling with his four adult children. We've seen them last night at this state -- state dinner.
Abby Phillip is there, as well. And she is also joining us.
So, Abby, what's the word from the White House and what they expect?
ABBY PHILLIP, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Well, the president is trying to set the tone by really downplaying the sense, since he's been here, that he has in some ways snubbed Theresa May, that he is on the verge of potentially embarrassing her by having those meetings you were just discussing.
And he was emphasizing how strong their relationship is. But Alisyn and John, we all know that the president has repeatedly embarrassed Theresa May in public, including criticizing her for her handling of Brexit, which he did the last time he was here in London just before he was supposed to meet with her. And so there's been a long history of the president really doing things to put her in a tough spot. But as we stand here, sort of on the verge of her stepping down, the
president is still trying to make some progress on some major issues. They have a lot of topics of conversation that they need to get the Brits on the same page on.
And some of these, frankly, I think are going to be really tough for them. For example, the Iran nuclear deal, which the U.S. has basically withdrawn itself from. The British and the Europeans are not there with them on that. They still believe that Iran has more or less remained within the constraints of that particular deal.
There's also the issue of Huawei and 5-G here in the United Kingdom. And then -- and then there's Brexit and then there's trade. And trade might be the one area where they are the most likely to make some progress. It's the one area where it seems that both sides are on the same page about absolutely wanting to get a deal done.
[06:20:18] How much progress exactly they can make on that, it's not very clear at the moment. But President Trump is trying to put a positive spin on all of this. And we'll see what happens not only in this meeting, which is going to be with a delegation of other U.S. officials and British officials. But it's also going to be afterward when they stand before the press and take questions. What will President Trump do then and what will he say then? As it relates to some of these domestic politics issues. I think that's really the big question.
Probably people are holding their breath, because the last time around, that was where the president, you know, really threw some curveballs at her when he was standing before the U.S. press and taking questions.
CAMEROTA: Abby, thank you very much for that preview. Obviously, we'll be covering all of that on NEW DAY. We're watching very closely the president's state visit in the U.K. We'll be right back.
[06:25:50] CAMEROTA: President Trump and British Prime Minister Theresa May beginning their meeting at 10 Downing. We have a picture of the room where it happens.
BERMAN: The room where it happens, the wrong -- that's the completely wrong continent.
CAMEROTA: That's the wrong message.
BERMAN: All right.
CAMEROTA: I'm sending the wrong message.
BERMAN: That is, though, which is interesting a copy of the Declaration of Independence. Of course, that declaration was sent to London. It was sent.
CAMEROTA: We have it somewhere also. BERMAN: I think we have our own copy.
CAMEROTA: I assume we have our own copy somewhere. But what is interesting, John, about all this is the symbolism, obviously. We're told that the prime minister will be showing President Trump this copy of the Declaration of -- once we settle our camera's shot down and the copy of the Atlantic Charter signed by Winston Churchill and FDR.
There's a lot of messaging about the unions.
CAMEROTA: And about the underpinnings of the global and European alliances that the U.S. and the British have been so fundamental.
BERMAN: Absolutely. The Declaration, when we split from Britain; the Atlantic Charter, when we really officially joined back together again for the betterment of the world.
I want to bring back in CNN White House correspondent Abby Phillip; CNN anchor and correspondent Max Foster; and CNN White House reporter Kate Bennett.
Kate, we have not yet heard from you. You're outside that door, and inside, we're getting a picture, a live picture -- I know you can't see it -- of the room we're about to see, the president and the British prime minister.
Kate, today is a decidedly different day than yesterday. Yesterday was all the royal treatment. Today is the business of government. The thorny, prickly business of government. But what did you see as they walked in?
KATE BENNETT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, we were waiting here for quite some time. We knew they were arriving soon, because the door opened at Downing Street, and a red carpet was rolled out, anticipating the arrival of the Trumps.
They walked up, and they were greeted by the Mays. Lots of smiles, chitchat, hellos. Everything seemed very nice and polite. They faced the press. They posed for photographs.
And then they went inside. They were followed afterwards. After they went inside, we saw Ivanka Trump go in and members of the cabinet. Steven Mnuchin. We saw Jared Kushner go in earlier. So certainly, all of the White House delegation, the administration are inside Downing Street right now.
And, you know, again, like you said, this is a day that's a bit more serious, a bit more focused. Yesterday was all the thrills and the royals and all the pomp and circumstance.
Today could be a very different day. Of course, Melania Trump while the two leaders meet, is going to be at a garden party here at Downing Street with Mr. May and having a tea and getting a tour. So she's still -- will enjoy the softer side of British hospitality while the president is with Theresa May.
CAMEROTA: Max, I feel like Queen Elizabeth and Prime Minister May are doing not-so-subtle message messaging to the president. And perhaps they're on the same page. As you reported, the queen gave him a first-edition book, "World War II," written by Winston Churchill last night.
And then today, as we've said, the prime minister will be walking him into this room to show him a copy of this Atlantic treaty or charter with Winston Churchill again and FDR. And so there seems to be a lot of messaging about the long relationship and also, again, the global alliance and how important things like, I'd say, NATO or the U.N., things like that are.
FOSTER: Yes, just to explain where I am. Outside Winfield House, the U.S. ambassador's residence, where the president is staying. There's all sorts of motorcades and VIPs in and out of this building. A huge amount of security, as well, you can see.
That road is normally free for traffic to travel down, completely closed off because of the concern about the protests.
But you're right to point out this messaging. I mean, it's literally everywhere. Theresa May is also going to take President Trump to the Churchill war rooms, as well. Another reminder of what Churchill achieved after the war but also specifically referencing what the queen talked about in her speech last night, which is the institutions that emerged out of wartime to promote global peace.
Those institutions are the U.N. They are the World Trade Organization. They are NATO. All organizations which President Trump has criticized. And that's created a huge amount of unsettled feeling here in Europe, where we rely on a lot of those organizations and perhaps at a slightly different perspective from President Trump.
So Angela Merkel very much speaks to this, as well. He'll be meeting her on Wednesday here in the U.K.