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[00:00:11] NATALIE ALLEN, CNN ANCHOR: Global powers at loggerheads over finding a solution for Syria. We'll tell you why a bloody weekend has dashed all hopes of a lasting cease-fire.
Counting down the hours -- Trump and Clinton gear up for their first presidential debate.
Plus --
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RORY MCILROY, PRO GOLF PLAYER: I think of all sports over the past century, I'm not sure if anyone is going to leave a legacy quite like Arnold Palmer.
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ALLEN: Farewell to a golfing great. The man they call "the king" died at the age of 87. Arnold Palmer remembered this hour.
Thank you for joining us. We're live in Atlanta. This is CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Natalie Allen.
Russia says ending Syria's civil war is almost impossible as the country is being bombed indiscriminately. Activists there say the attacks are worse than ever after a short-lived cease-fire collapsed last week.
Diplomats argued over how to stop the escalating violence during a United Nations Security Council meeting on Sunday. As Syria's U.N. ambassador began speaking, the U.S., British and French ambassadors walked out.
Russia says U.S. support for Syrian rebels is hurting the humanitarian efforts. The U.S. ambassador directly accused Russia of barbarism in its actions and support of the government, the Assad regime.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SAMANTHA POWER, U.S. AMBASSADOR TO THE U.N.: Instead of pursuing peace Russia and Assad make war. Instead of helping get life-saving aid to civilians, Russia and Assad are bombing the humanitarian convoys, hospitals and first responders who are trying desperately to keep people alive.
VITALY CHURKIN, RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR TO THE U.N. (through translator): Perhaps we should stop accusing people who -- coming from politicians who say that they have the best interest of the Syrian people in their minds. If they want negotiations, then they should go back to those foreign capitals where they disagreed with us earlier.
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ALLEN: Meantime, the Syrian government backed by Russia continued its aerial bombardment against rebels in eastern Aleppo. Activists say at least 85 people were killed in intense air strikes Sunday and more than 300 others wounded. Hospitals there are overwhelmed with severe shortages of medicine, blood and supplies.
Senior international correspondent Fred Pleitgen has the latest for us from the capital Damascus.
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FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: By all accounts that we're getting, the Syrian government offensive in Aleppo does not seem to be showing any signs of letting up. As far as the military situation is concerned, what you have is what the Syrian government calls a comprehensive offensive. They say it involves both ground forces as well as air forces from what we're hearing both the Russian as well as the Syrian air force operating out there.
As far as the territorial gains are concerned, it seems to be coming in two areas. The opposition is saying that regime forces are trying to attack the eastern districts of Aleppo from the south and from the north and especially in the north, there's one major battlefield called Handarat camp that that was overrun by government forces on Saturday before they were beaten back on Saturday evening when the rebels launched a counteroffensive and gaining back a lot of that territory.
And then again, Handarat camp apparently was shelled pretty heavily on Sunday as well. So, unclear how much territory actually (inaudible) in the end but certainly from what we're hearing here, there's a lot of carnage on the ground.
The Syrian government in the form of its ambassador to the United Nations has vowed to take back every inch of Syria's territory, also saying they want to, obviously, take back all of Aleppo as well. Some heavy criticism coming not just from the United States but also from the U.N. envoy to the Syrian conflict Staffan de Mistura saying what's going on in Aleppo right now, he believes could amount to war crimes.
The Syrian government and the Russians, of course, taking a very different stance on all of this -- they blame the opposition for what they say were at least 300 breaches of the truce. Once again, the U.S. and its allies and, of course, also the opposition forces it backs on the ground very different take on this.
Fred Pleitgen -- CNN, Damascus.
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ALLEN: At least eight people are dead and 25 wounded after three bombings in Baghdad on Sunday. These photos show workers cleaning up after the deadliest attack. Authorities say it was a suicide bombing that killed at least six people. A police source says the bomber attacked Shiite pilgrims preparing for the holy month of Muharram. ISIS claimed responsibility.
Tributes are pouring in for golf legend Arnold Palmer who has died at 87. The U.S. Golf Association confirms Palmer's death. The American won over 90 golf tournaments in his prolific career, including seven majors.
[00:05:04] Fresh off a win at the FedEx cup here in Atlanta, Rory McIlroy spoke with CNN about Palmer's legacy.
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MCILROY: I think Arnold meant a lot to a lot of people -- golfers, first and foremost. I mean if it wasn't for Arnold Palmer, I don't think the PGA tour what it would be today -- you know, playing for the obscene amounts of money that we play for. And he really brought the game to the masses in the 60s and 70s.
And even though he wasn't the most successful golfer of all time, he's definitely the one that will leave the lasting legacy. I think of all sports over the past century, I'm not sure if anyone is going to leave a legacy quite like Arnold Palmer.
You know, he meant a lot to a lot of people. He was a very generous man. He did a lot for the community, a lot for charity, you know, the children's hospital up in Orlando. And I was lucky enough to have, you know, to get -- to spend some time with him. And he was just a wonderful man with great stories.
And as I said great charisma and had a lot of time for anyone that he met in his life.
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ALLEN: That was Arnold Palmer, for sure. He got it right. And tributes are pouring, of course, in from others. Tiger Woods took to Twitter to say "Thanks Arnold for your friendship, counsel and a lot of laughs. Your philanthropy and humility are part of your legend."
Greg Norman says simply, "A legend was lost today. Rest in Peace".
Former U.S. President George W. Bush also praised Palmer saying "For all the love the game of golf and love to see it played, there has never been a sight quite like Arnold Palmer walking down the fairway toward the 18th green."
On to of all his wins, Palmer was widely credited with making a country club sport popular with the rest of us, the masses.
Mike Galanos looks back at Palmer's long career.
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MIKE GALANOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Winner of seven majors and 96 tournaments overall, Arnold Palmer was one of golf's greatest and most charismatic players. His rise to stardom in the late 1950s and 60s coincided with the advent of televised golf. And alongside his lifelong friend and rival Jack Nicklaus, Palmer brought golf into the forefront of the nation's sporting consciousness.
His unique rapport with fans spawned Arnie's Army -- a loyal legion of followers that spanned decades and generations.
ARNOLD PALMER, FORMER PRO GOLF PLAYER: When people say, treat other people as you'd like to be treated, they don't really think that. That's a nice thing to say, but, you know, I had it beaten into me that that was the thing to do, and I have practiced that.
JOHN GARRITY, SENIOR WRITER, SPORTS ILLUSTRATED: Arnold Palmer is pretty much the fellow who took golf to the middle classes. And the blue collar worker of America. It was considered a game for the elite for many, many decades -- the high class resorts on the East Coast and the private country clubs.
And here came Arnold Palmer, the son of a green keeper from the mountains of Pennsylvania. And the way he walked, the way he hitched his pants, they way he smoked and flicked away the cigarette it was compelling to women, it was compelling to men, and suddenly golf was a game for the masses, not just for the elite.
GALANOS: Born in Latrobe, Pennsylvania Palmer grew up next door to the local country club where his father worked as a golf professional and course superintendent. At the age of 25, Palmer joined the PGA tour for the 1955 season and won the first of his four Masters titles three years later.
In the early 60s, Palmer made the golf course his personal play ground. He won 29 tournaments between 1960 and 1963 racking up four majors in that span, including a miraculous comeback from seven strokes down in the final round of the 1960 U.S. Open. That performance paved the way for him being named "Sports Illustrated's" "Sportsman of the Year". Palmer was later named the "Athlete of the Decade" by the Associated Press.
GARRITY: Arnie just saw the target and was ready to fire. And he was also ready to take the consequences. Sometimes firing at the flag brought him glory. And there are a lot of times when firing at the flag put him in serious, serious trouble and he suffered the punishment. But it was so exciting to watch that the public was with him either way. GALANOS: Away from the course, Palmer became, in the words of his
agent, IMG founder Mark McCormick, the first athlete to become a walking, breathing multimillion-dollar corporation. He nurtured business interests from club manufacturing to course design and construction. He hocked everything from cigarettes to rental cars.
MICHAEL BAMBERGER, SENIOR WRITER, SPORTS ILLUSTRATED: I think the ultimate genius of Arnold Palmer is his unbelievable understanding of human beings. And that's why Arnold Palmer had a 25, 30-year career after he was done playing good golf, which is unbelievable.
[00:09:58] GALANOS: Palmer won his last PGA tour event in 1973 but continued to occasionally appear in golf's majors. His final appearance as a player at the 2004 Masters was a record 50th consecutive.
The death of Arnold Palmer leaves golf without one of its most magnetic personalities and all-time great players. The king is gone, but the influence of his reign will remain with the game forever.
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ALLEN: Earlier, I spoke with Jim Dodson, a biographer of Arnold Palmer's who has traveled extensively with him. He offered some insight into what made Palmer so special.
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ALLEN: Jim -- let's talk about Arnold Palmer, the golfer. What about his game made him so great? And you also wrote in your biography about his somewhat not beautiful or artistic golf style.
JIM DODSON, ARNOLD PALMER'S BIOGRAPHER: Well, it was a kind of corkscrew swing. It was self-taught. His father when he was very small, his father was the first greens keeper and then the professional at Latrobe Country Club -- tiny Latrobe country club. He put the golf club in his hands. He said hit the ball hard, boy. Go and find it and hit it hard again.
And Arnold always did. He really did have kind of a corkscrewing swing that you couldn't emulate. Stars and players could never emulate it. It was very distinctive. He often -- I think also the key to one of the -- yeoman appeal to galleries was that Arnold was always playing out of rough and going for broke.
He won the Canadian Open once shooting between two trees from almost out of bounds. He was an every man that way. Every hacker and midlevel golfer could relate to Arnold Palmer because he was always where we were.
ALLEN: Yes. He didn't lay up, did he? And he brought golf to the masses. He is the one who brought it out of the country club and kind of gave it to the masses.
DODSON: That's right. Golf is a pretty sleepy game, the country club game prior to Arnold Palmer bursting onto the scene in '58 but in the biggest way in 1960 when he came from two strokes back and birdied the 17th and 18th hole at the 71st and 72nd hole at the Masters to win his second green jacket and really electrified the golf world.
Jim McKay was calling it for television -- there's been recently a wonderful release of the film of that wonderful moment. And the gallery just flooded behind Arnold. They called it his army. And it really did electrify golf.
And I have to tell you it was really the start of five decades of unprecedented growth in 400-year-old game. He had such a galvanizing and inspiring effect on the masses that the number of country clubs in America almost doubled over the next 15 years and public golf courses because people were in a rush to play Arnold Palmer.
It was a moment with Jack Kennedy and youth and he was maybe the first great player look only -- look better and great in color. And he was very handsome and dashing and the women in the gallery loved him. The guys all wanted to be him.
Best of all, he had this amazing kinship with his fans. He smiled. He was telegenic. He was very expressive and people really related to him. And the best part was he was the nicest guy ever.
ALLEN: Right. He was so friendly. He was so approachable. He liked people. He was not -- not at all a sports diva despite all of his acclaim to and his philanthropy and his business success -- just a very likable, likable person.
DODSON: I'll tell you two little things. One time he said to me Shakespeare, it was when we were working on his book early morning in hi shop in Latrobe. He said "Shakespeare, do you know the difference between the tour players of my day," and he meant himself and even Jack and today, he said, "today they walk up the middle of the fairway lost in their own world or staying within themselves," whatever that means. He said, "In my day we walked up by the galleries, by the ropes to say thank you, to see faces we knew.
He was very much an ambassador to the game and he believed that giving back to the game that was so generous to him was vital to who Arnold Palmer was.
ALLEN: Thank you very much, Jim, for joining us. We really appreciate it.
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ALLEN: Jim Dodson called "Shakespeare" by Arnold Palmer.
Coming up here, protesters have been gathering on the streets in Charlotte. Why new police video of the deadly shooting has not quieted the concerns of many people.
Plus millions will be tuning in to see the U.S. presidential candidates take the debate stage. This is the day. Coming up.
[00:14:41] (COMMERCIAL BREAK) ALLEN: Well, this is the day of the first U.S. Presidential debate. The stakes are enormous for Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump as they prepare for their debate tonight. The showdown expected to draw a TV audience that will rival the Super Bowl.
Jonathan Mann looks at what the candidates hope to accomplish and the possible missteps they want to avoid.
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JONATHAN MANN, CNN HOST: It is probably going to be the most important 90 minutes of the campaign. About 100 million people are expected to be watching. That's a bigger audience than either candidate has had so far. And because interest tends to wane just a little bit after the first debate, this may be the biggest audience for those two candidates until Election Day.
It is a lot that we're looking forward to. But that's still ahead.
Let's talk about what we saw on Sunday because it's very, very telling. Sunday was a good day for Donald Trump. He received Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at Trump Tower. That's the head of the government of Israel going to see Donald Trump. Not the other way around.
And what that meeting offered Trump was an opportunity to show himself meeting with a world leader, as if one leader to another leader, he's ready to do business. Donald Trump demonstrated that he can, without mishap, take on the role of the Oval Office of the commander in chief.
[00:19:57] Hillary Clinton ended up meeting with Netanyahu as well, but once again, all that did was show that she's capable of doing what Trump is capable of doing. Vice versa, Trump can do what Clinton can do. He is a reasonable alternative.
That's a very crucial message coming into the debate, which is now really not that far away because he wants to use the opportunity to show that he is a real alternative. He wants to reassure a lot of nervous Americans that he's not just a buffoon billionaire who is going to bulldoze his way around the planet.
And so this is a really important opportunity for him to show calm, to show competence, to show that he doesn't need a teleprompter to tone him down. In fact one of his advisers, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani says he's not even preparing all that much because he doesn't need to.
RUDY GIULIANI, FORMER MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY: It depends on how much confidence you have in yourself. And that's what we want. We want a president who has confidence in himself or herself.
If you have got to over prepare, you have to over prepare. But if you have confidence in yourself, you go with what got you there.
MANN: Hillary Clinton's job is to make sure Americans are not confident in Trump. She has got to hope that he does something once again to show that he's, as she would say, a loose cannon. She has to do that to Trump and she has to do something for herself.
Her biggest liability is that she doesn't seem sincere. She doesn't seem honest. She has got to use 90 minutes, which is not a long time, to project authenticity, transparency, honesty, likability. One night is not a lot of time to do it in. So the impact of this debate will have, we're not sure.
But here's one thing to keep in mind. We're talking about 90 crucial minutes that may boil down to just one moment, one gaffe, one encounter that's going to define the experience for 100 million Americans and a lot of people watching from around the world. It's going to be something to see.
Back to you.
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ALLEN: Earlier, I walked through the issues facing both candidates with Larry Sabato director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia.
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ALLEN: Larry -- thank you for being with us.
LARRY SABATO, UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA: Thank you.
ALLEN: We have come down to this -- Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, the two of them on the stage together. So you have someone who is described as kind of a dry policy wonk up against perhaps the king of one-liners and Twitter. How do you see that shaping up with just that dynamic right there?
SABATO: Well, that's a good way to put it. You have one candidate, Hillary Clinton, who probably has over prepared, as she always does for these things. And you have another candidate, Donald Trump, who is almost certainly underprepared. Though I think he's received more counsel than he has let on.
Look. This could be the peak of the entire campaign. I fear that it will turn into a rally (ph), depending on how nasty the candidates are. But there's no question that in 90 minutes, 100 million Americans, most of whom have not been paying close attention, are going to get a real civics lesson about this particular presidential campaign.
ALLEN: And both of these candidates have high numbers when it comes to not being likable. So when you break it down to the big issues -- foreign policy, guns, jobs, immigration, and then it comes down to also can they improve upon the fact that their negatives are so high and seem more likable, despite all the big issues they have to talk about?
SABATO: That's exactly right. Look, Hillary Clinton knows an enormous amount about policy. She has the facts at her fingertips. I don't think even the most ardent Trump supporter would say that he could come anywhere close to matching her.
But where she often falls short is in demonstrating a personality that people can relate to. She needs to show some flashes of wit. She needs to show some emotional sides to the beliefs that she has about politics and government. Trump on the other hand has to show that he could be a credible president simply by knowing the basics. And to this point, we haven't seen him do even that.
ALLEN: Right. Scratched the surface and then you kind of scratch your head over what are his ways to get to those jobs he talks about and other issues that America faces around the world.
So it's a big question of perhaps what kind of Donald Trump shows up because when he's off of teleprompter and doing his thing, his antics are -- can be crazy on stage. He threw a water bottle on stage during a debate and then there's the Donald Trump who reads teleprompter. Well, there's not teleprompter at this debate.
SABATO: Yes. And also he has never before been in a one on one debate. There's a completely different dynamic compared to having 10 or 16 other people on stage. It's just very, very different.
[00:25:08] So one only wonders whether or not he can adjust to that. And again he has to give specifics.
We'll see how much the moderator presses him -- that's going to be critical. Will Lester Holt, the "NBC Evening News" anchor, will he press both candidates for specifics and challenge them when they are wrong or at least giving incorrect facts? We don't know. That's one of the imponderables with this debate.
ALLEN: Well, after Matt Lauer's performance, which was highly put down, I would think Lester Holt would make sure he does that. We'll wait and see on that.
One more question about Hillary Clinton. She's always -- often seen as defensive. What if she shows up defensive in this debate?
SABATO: She better not. I know her team has been working with her on that. She can't seem hard or overly tough. She has to be willing to roll with the punches, not just from Donald Trump, but from the moderator as well. And defensiveness does not serve her well. It causes her cool to be inert, to be downright cold.
ALLEN: You'll be watching it with students, and we look forward to hearing what your students' reactions were to this debate.
Larry Sabato. Thank you -- Larry.
SABATO: Thank you Natalie.
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ALLEN: The best political team on TV will be working around the clock as the candidates step into the ring at Hofstra University. You can catch it all Monday right here on CNN. There is escalating tension on the Korean peninsula. Coming up, what
the U.S. and South Korea are doing to send a message to the North.
Also, new police video showing the death of Keith Scott in Charlotte. Ahead, why that still isn't answering major questions about the incident.
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[00:30:10] ALLEN: Welcome back to our viewers in the U.S. and around the world.
You're watching CNN NEWSROOM, I'm Natalie Allen.
Here are our top stories.
The U.S. is accusing Russia are barbarism in Syria. World powers argue over how to stop the violence there during a United Nations Security Council meeting on Sunday.
Russia says U.S. support for Syrian rebels is hurting the humanitarian efforts. Syria vows to retake all rebel-held territory, including Aleppo.
Golf Legend Arnold Palmer has died at 87. The U.S. Golf Association confirmed his death a short time ago. The American known as "The King" won more than 90 tournaments over his prolific career, including seven majors. He also built a financial empire with endorsements and other golf-related ventures.
Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are virtually tied in U.S. polls as they head into their first presidential debate. They will take the stage at Hofstra University Monday night, in New York. It's one of three debates set before the election in November.
The U.S. and South Korea are sending a message to the North following last week's flight of U.S. B-1 bombers along the demilitarized zone. Both countries navies put on a show of force in the Sea of Japan or East Sea. Earlier this month, North Korea conducted its fifth nuclear test.
For more on this, Paula Hancocks joins us now live from Seoul. And certainly, Paula, this back and forth can't have people feeling good there in Seoul. And, of course, everyone always waiting to see what North Korea might do next.
Hello.
PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, luckily, this show of force from the U.S. and the South Korean Navy is ongoing at this point. We're hoping to have some images in the coming hours. But what it effectively is doing is the United States is showing North Korea that they are close to South Korea. The alliance has never been closer.
It's just in the waters off the east coast of Korea. And you have American missile guided destroyers. You have Korean destroyers. There are ships in the region. You have helicopters, submarines.
And it's also one specific drill we're being told by the U.S. military that will involve both sides being able to track a submarine and hunt it down.
Now this is significant because, of course, over the past year, we've seen North Korea trying to increase its submarine technology. Its submarine launched ballistic missile testing has increased significantly.
Last time, back in August, they managed to launch it about 500 kilometers. They claimed it was a resounding success. There weren't many countries who disagreed with that.
So this is really pinpointing the threats that Pyongyang is showing towards Washington and Seoul at this point. So both sides are trying to show a joint face to North Korea and show that they are trying to test and to train against those particular issues.
Now North Korea has reacted. We saw them react last week. They said that they were going to turn Seoul into a sea of flames, or sea of ashes which they have threatened in the past. But it does show that these shows of force do affect Pyongyang. At least, verbally, they are responding.
Natalie?
ALLEN: All right. Thank you so much.
Paula Hancocks for us live there in Seoul, South Korea.
Well, protesters gathered in front of Charlotte's NFL stadium, Sunday, one day after police released new video of Tuesday's fatal shooting of Keith Scott. This new footage hasn't been able to answer many of the biggest questions, though, surrounding his death.
Police officers can be seen and heard shouting at Scott to drop his weapon, but the video does not clearly show what Scott was holding, if anything.
And again, diverse crowds there in Charlotte as you can see still protesting several days later.
Let's get more on these tapes. What is there? What isn't?
Steve Moore is a CNN law enforcement contributor and former FBI supervisory special agent joining me now via Skype from Los Angeles.
Steve, good to see you. Thank you for being with us.
We know that this video that the police released. It's not the full picture. They told us it wouldn't be. What stands out for you in the videos released by them?
STEVE MOORE, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT CONTRIBUTOR: What stands out first is that there were several people simultaneously yelling gun or drop the gun. That's hard to rehearse in advance.
After Mr. Scott was shot, there was a gun on the ground. And that gun, if you look at it, was, to a firearms person, that was cocked, and the safety was off. And what's critical about that is you can't carry that in your pocket that way because it will take maybe two pounds of pressure to set off that gun.
You carry it either not cocked, or you carry it with the safety on, or both. The fact that it was cocked and safety off, it was ready to fire.
ALLEN: And we also know that his wife was there, and she could be heard in her video that she recorded saying, "Keith, don't do it." "Don't you do it." And we don't know what that was referring to. And you point out about the position of that gun.
The question, also, though, Steve, is did he have it still in his hand when he came out of that car? We just see him backing up and his arms are down. But his hands really aren't visible.
MOORE: Well, what that means, from a law enforcement standpoint and from a legal standpoint is that there is no proof that the officers did anything wrong. They say they -- there was a gun there. There was a gun on the ground at the end of the shooting. I bet you find ammo or magazine weapon in Mr. Scott's possession, which would prove that it was his gun.
I don't see -- you know, this is a country where you're innocent until proven guilty. And you can't show that these officers did anything wrong.
My blink here is that this is not the one "Black Lives Matter" wants to pin their hopes on. One of the things that his wife may have been screaming don't do it, don't do it, would have to do with the three prior arrests and convictions for assault with a deadly weapon. Two of them with intent to kill.
He was sentenced to seven years in prison for that. The officers, obviously, didn't know that. But as an investigator coming in afterwards, that certainly tells me that on at least three occasions, this guy, who was a convicted felon in possession of a weapon, illegally, probably could have been holding a gun.
ALLEN: All right, Steve. But does it just come down to what happened in this situation? You know, from his family, from their standpoint, he was waiting to pick up his kid from the school bus. They were there for a different reason, but they chose to pursue him.
MOORE: Right. And this is -- or that doesn't mean they chose to pursue him. I have seen many times. And it's happened. I know two FBI agents who were killed going into an apartment building to arrest one man. Another one who thought they must be after him, shot them. They weren't even looking in that direction. It is common. And I don't mean it's not uncommon.
I mean, it is common to go out on an arrest or out on some kind of surveillance to be accosted by somebody who thinks you're after them or that you're after one of their friends.
The fact he was in the area and they ended up having a shooting with him, and he wasn't the person they were after doesn't move the meter for me.
ALLEN: All right. Well, we appreciate your thoughts on this. There are two sides to this story. And we appreciate it, Steve.
MOORE: Sure.
ALLEN: We'll talk with you again. Thank you.
MOORE: All right.
ALLEN: And we'll be right back.
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ALLEN: We are just hours away now from the most anticipated 90 minutes of the U.S. presidential election. And many wondering what kind of theatrics Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton may have to offer in Monday's debate.
So let's look back on some of the most memorable moments from past debates from zingers to gaffes.
CNN's Jeanne Moos has a look at the best and worst history has to offer us.
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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Don't we tend to watch debates --
SARAH PALIN (R), FORMER ALASKA GOVERNOR: Can I call you, Joe?
MOOS: Hoping to see a train wreck? Instead, we're left with memorable moments.
Sarah Palin winking.
PALIN: How long have I been at this, like five weeks?
MOOS: Ronald Reagan demanding the sound system not be turned off.
RONALD REAGAN, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I am paying for this microphone.
MOOS: A line he picked up --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Don't you shut me off. I'm paying for this broadcast.
MOOS: From Spencer Tracey in the "State of the Union."
TV magnifies everything. From the sweat glistening on Nixon's chin that he had to wipe off to Al Gore's exaggerated --
GEORGE BUSH, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: (INAUDIBLE)
MOOS: Exasperated sigh.
BUSH: There's differences.
MOOS: Resuscitated by "SNL."
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Rome came to life and gladiator --
MOOS (on-camera): What was I going to say, again?
Oh, yes, there were some unforgettable forgetful moments.
RICK PERRY, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Commerce, education and the -- what's the third one there. Let's see.
MOOS (voice-over): Rick Perry's oops moment. And Arizona Governor Jan Brewer's brain freeze.
JAN BREWER: We could possibly do --
MOOS: Reporter: And this was just her opening statement.
(on-camera): You know what a televised debate isn't the time for?
(voice-over): Checking the time as President George Bush did.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How has the national debt --
MOOS: Debates are a time for memorable zingers --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy.
MOOS: And one-liners, for instance, from relatively unknown candidate for vice president.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who am I? Why am I here?
MOOS (on-camera): And whatever you do, candidates, don't invade your opponent's personal space.
(voice-over): As Hillary's Senate rival once did.
HILLARY CLINTON: We'll shake on --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, I want your signature.
MOOS: Or when Al Gore crept up on George Bush.
AL GORE, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: But can you get things done?
BUSH: And I believe I can.
MOOS: There's nothing like debatable behavior to liven up a debate.
BUSH: There's differences.
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: You're likable enough, Hillary.
CLINTON: Thank you.
MOOS: Jeanne Moos, CNN --
PALIN: Are we not doing the talent portion?
MOOS: CNN, New York.
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ALLEN: This debate rivaling an audience of the Super Bowl. Imagine.
That's CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Natalie Allen.
"World Sport" is up next.
And we say farewell again to a golfing legend. Arnold Palmer who died at 87. And we want you to know, our sports show was taped before we learned of Mr. Palmer's death.
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