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Bernie Sanders Hopeful For A California Primary Win; House Speaker Endorses Donald Trump; Seven-Year-Old Japanese Boy Found Alive After Parents Left Him On Side Of Mountain; Dick Van Dyke Compares Trump Presidency To The Cuban Missile Crisis; Toxicology Report Says Prince Died of Accidental Overdose of Fentanyl; Summer Games To Feature First Team Made Up Entirely Of Refugees; New Documentary Highlights Achievements Of 18 African-American Athletes Who Competed In 1936 Berlin Olympics; Massive Texas Flooding Claims Lives Of At Least Five U.S. Soldiers At Fort Hood; Four Soldiers Still Missing; Deadly Floods Kills 10 In Germany And One In France. Aired 12-1a ET

Aired June 3, 2016 - 00:00   ET


[00:00:11] JOHN VAUSE, CNN ANCHOR off camera: Inside, Donald Trump slammed Hillary Clinton. Earlier in the day, Clinton delivered a major foreign policy speech, saying Trump was unfit for office and a danger to the world. Trump attacked her for voting for the Iraq war and said she should be in jail for using a private email server during her time as Secretary of State.


DONALD TRUMP (R) REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Now we don't want to say Lyin' Ted. I would love to pull it out and just use it on Lyin' Crooked Hillary.


TRUMP: Love to say it because she's a liar. She made up my foreign policy. Donald Trump is going to this. I said, I never said that. Then Donald Trump is going to do that; and a friend of mine was in the room and said, you never said you were going to do that. I said, that's right; she makes it up. Now she's a bad person.


VAUSE: Clinton says Trump's foreign policy ideas are a mix of bizarre rants, personal feuds and outright lies.


HILLARY CLINTON (D-NY) DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENITAL CANDIDATE: He is not just unprepared. he is temperamentally unfit to hold an office that requires knowledge, stability and immense responsibility.


VAUSE: Joining us now, Democratic Strategist Dave Jacobson and Republican Consultant John Thomas. Okay, we'll get to the Clinton stuff, and inside the Trump rally; let's talk about the protests for a moment.

I thought a couple weeks of ago that these kind of protests outside would help Donald Trump in the general election, but I think they helped him more in the primary campaign because right now protest after protest seems to be feeding into the narrative that the Democrats are creating, that he is divisive, that he is unstable, he's unpredictable?

JOHN THOMAS, REPUBLICAN CONSULTANT AND PRESIDENT, THOMAS PARTNERS STRATEGIES: 100-percent right. The Democrats recognize that, that's why you saw the California Teachers Association send out an e-blast, statewide, saying protest, gather, here are the instructions. These aren't organic protests. It is a deliberately organized movement, and it does; it feeds into the narrative.

in branding candidates, you are not going to tell the electorate something about Trump that they don't already suspect to be true. So they have to feed into that narrative that he's erratic.

VAUSE: Are these planned? Are these not organic protests because some of them look organic?

DAVE JACOBSON, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST AND CAMPAIGN CONSULTANT, SHALLMAN COMMUNICATIONS: I think it's potentially both of them. I have no doubt that some of the labor unions obviously have an incentive to prevent Donald Trump from becoming the next president. But I think he is exacerbating this narrative that Hillary Clinton sort of presented today, that he is the chaos candidate, he's the divider in chief, he's pitting communities against each other. He's the guy who wouldn't denounce immediately the white supremist. He is building up walls, you know, instead of tearing them down.

I think, look, ultimately in a general election, Republicans are going to vote for Donald Trump. Democrats are going to vote for Hillary Clinton. The way you win the White House is you appeal to the folks in the middle, and this isn't the way to do it.

VAUSE: Okay, so Trump was fired up tonight, to say the least. He looked quite animated. He seemed almost sweaty at times. He hit back really hard at Hillary Clinton and I think for the first time he really went after her on the email controversy.


TRUMP: I have read so much about the emails. Folks, honestly, she's guilty as hell. She's guilty at hell, --


TRUMP: -- and the fact that they even - and this is true; this is true. The fact that they even allow her to participate in this race is a disgrace to the United States. It's a disgrace to our nation.


VAUSE: So, Dave, he really is going after one of her very big weakness here, and that's trust.

JACOBSON: Right, and the email issue is a potent issue, for sure. She has to come up with a better answer. Frankly I think she has to own it. She has to apologize. She's got to figure out a way to move on and really, you know, deal with this honesty issues. I think one of the ways to do that is to release the Wall Street transcripts.

You know, early on in the New York primary, New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand even indicated that the Clinton campaign might be open to it. I think doing something like that is going to give her leverage. Moving forward to attack Donald Trump and say, hey, listen; I've basically opened up the book. I have nothing left to hide. Now Donald Trump, it's your turn to release your taxes.

THOMAS: That would be the smart play, but we're never going to see that because she was licking boots during the entire Wall Street, which confirms she is beholden and part of the establishment. She's not going to, although that would be smart, she's not going to --

VAUSE: Maybe she does it when Sanders is out of the campaign, out of the race?

THOMAS: I still don't think that that's going to happen.

VAUSE: The other big message from Donald Trump tonight, he went after Hillary Clinton and her past relationship with Barack Obama.


TRUMP: Remember Hillary Clinton used to hate Obama, she used to hate him. Bill Clinton hated him. Bill Clinton hated him. He called Bill Clinton a racist; do you Remember that? Bill Clinton hated him and Hillary Clinton [00:05:01] hated Obama. Now it's, yes, sir, Mr. President, sir. Yes, sir. What would you like? What would you like me to say here, sir?


VAUSE: This plays into the whole narrative we talked about; she's wrapped herself in Barack Obama and now he's reminding everybody that they weren't the best of friends.

THOMAS: This is the kitchen sink approach.

VAUSE: Right.

THOMAS: I mean, he's throwing everything in, and let's take a step back. Donald Trump has cut his teeth his whole life in tabloid wars. That's how he knows how to do public affairs. That's what he is doing here.

VAUSE: He's bringing a blowtorch to a stick fight, but will this work, John, because if bring up the past like this it seems so long ago, people have changed. She's been secretary of state. They have a good relationship now. THOMAS: I think the email attack is very smart. It undermines her on

the trust issue. I think he should let her hug Barack Obama because the fact is, most voters are unhappy with the direction of the country. Let her be Obama's third term. Don't highlight they used to not agree.

VAUSE: Okay.

JACOBSON: If I could just add, I think it underscores the fact he is scared of Barack Obama because the President is polling over 50- percent right now, and he's going to be a strong surrogate for the Clinton campaign, and I think he's going to make a very compelling case against Donald Trump in the general election.

VAUSE: Okay, let's move on to Hillary Clinton. Today she delivered an all-out assault on Donald Trump. She essentially called him a dangerous know nothing, who would start a nuclear war.


CLINTON: Donald Trump's ideas aren't just different; they are dangerously incoherent. They are not even really ideas, just a series of bizarre rants, personal feuds and outright lies.

[Cheers and Applause]

CLINTON: He is not just unprepared. He is temperamentally unfit to hold an office that requires knowledge, stability and immense responsibility.

[Cheering and Applause]


VAUSE: Okay; she basically called him insane.


VAUSE: So, Dave, you said that (inaudible). So where you do go from here if you're Hillary Clinton?

JACOBSON: Right; you have to jump on this narrative. This was sort of the first salvo, I think, and something we will see moving forward, on the foreign policy front. She's trying to paint the picture that Donald Trump is the Godzilla of 2016; sort of destroying everything in his path. First it was the 16 GOP competitors that he faced, now he is headed towards world domination. This is a guy calling for more nukes. He wants to peel away our -

VAUSE: He said he wasn't tonight, but he has.

JACOBSON: Right, he is flip-flopping on all these issues. He wants to pull back from our alliances with NATO. He is cozying up to dictators, like Vladimir Putin, and alienating allies, like David Cameron from the U.K. THOMAS: This is a smart play for her, undoubtedly, but she has to be

careful when she calls him incoherent, lies - look, she just was called a liar, basically, by the Inspector General's report last year -- or last week -


THOMAS: -- that shows she's been lying herself. Look, you live in a glass house you've got to be careful.

VAUSE: Okay; she did, going back to this image of Donald Trump in control of the nuclear arsenal --


CLINTON: Imagine if he had not just his Twitter account at his disposal when he is angry, but America's entire arsenal. Do we want him making those calls? Someone thin skinned and quick to anger, who lashes out at the smallest criticism; do we want his finger anywhere near the button?


VAUSE: And she went on. She basically said he is someone who will not take advice.


CLINTON: He says he doesn't have to listen to our generals or admirals, our ambassadors and other high officials because he has, "a very good brain."



VAUSE: And, Dave, this is the thing about it, she just used his own words. She put it out there. She didn't really mock him in any way. She said everything that he had said so far, over the last 12 months or so. This campaign will be hand to hand combat?

JACOBSON: Yes, I think so. Look, this is reflective of the broader strategy that we've seen the Clinton campaign, and the Super PAC's supporting Clinton, embrace already. Earlier in the campaign, just a couple weeks ago, we saw them using Donald Trump's own words when he was talking about women. Now we're seeing it on foreign policy front. So I think this is a preview of the strategy that we're going to see in the summer months ahead.

THOMAS: It's one thing to give a speech with a teleprompter. It's a who other to be in a mono-a-mono in a debate. She's comfortable in this environment; I don't think she will be comfortable in that environment.

VAUSE: Bernie Sanders tried to steal some Clinton thunder today. He released a statement, it read, in part: "But when it comes to foreign policy, we not forget Secretary Clinton voted for the war in Iraq, the worst foreign policy blunder in modern American history, and that she has been a proponent of regime change, as in Libya, without thinking through the consequences."

How is that not hurting Hillary Clinton on (inaudible, cross talk) day?

THOMAS: Those should be Trump's talking points.

VAUSE: It was, right?

JACOMBSON: It was, precisely. Look, he smells victory within reach in California. So he is doing everything that he can to take the gloves off and clinch some sort of a victory before we head to the convention. He is polling within the margin of error with Hillary Clinton right now. He's come back from a double digit deficit; and so he's sort of throwing the kitchen sink out there, trying to do whatever he can to come out on top Tuesday in California.

THOMAS: I think the only person who should give a damn about her emails is Bernie Sanders. He should be crossing his fingers.

[00:10:01] VAUSE: Okay; let's get to the endorsement from Paul Ryan because this took about 29 days for Paul Ryan to finally come around. He released a statement saying, while they have differences, he said this, "on the issues that make up our agenda, we have more common ground than disagreement." How important is this for Trump now, to get this endorsement?

THOMAS: This was a huge endorsement for him.

VAUSE: Is it?

THOMAS: It really was, because Paul Ryan was -- he is the standard bearer for the party. He was the last person that people were hoping would get on board. Once he did this, I think it's fair to say, the base is coalescing; the never Trump movement is dead.

VAUSE: And, Dave, very quickly, is there now just one leader of the Republican Party and that's Donald Trump, after this endorsement?

JACOBSON: Well, I mean, sure; but I beg to differ in terms of the endorsement. I mean, he didn't explicitly say that he's endorsing Donald Trump. In fact, Paul Ryan's Communications Director had to go on Twitter to clarify that the Speaker was endorsing, rather than just voting for Donald Trump. So, look, I think it's a tacit endorsement; it was a lackluster endorsement. I think it underscores the continued divide that we see within the GOP elite and Donald Trump's campaign.

THOMAS: It was an endorsement. I'm taking it.

VAUSE: Okay, we'll leave it at that. Dave and John, always good. Thanks for coming in.

THOMAS: Thanks.

JACOBSON: Thanks for having us.

VAUSE: Here is something you don't hear every day. John Kirby, with the U.S. State Department, appearing on FOX News, thanking a FOX reporter for uncovering what appears to be an attempt to sensor one of that reporter's questions from the public record.


JOHN KIRBY, SPOKESMAN, U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT: Well, we took this seriously for one. Actually, before I answer your question, I want to thank James Rosen, your correspondent, for bringing this to my attention because if he hadn't, a couple of weeks ago, I would never have known this occurred. So, first of all, kudos to him. He's a journalist that I have great respect for.


VAUSE: Here's the background: In February 2013, James Rosen asked then State Department Spokesperson Victoria Nuland if there had been direct, secret bilateral talks with Iran.


VICTORIA NULAND, SPOKESPERSON, U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT: With regard to the kind of thing that you are talking about on a government to government level, no.


VAUSE: By December, Rosen pointed out that Nuland's successor, Jen Psaki, that senior State Department officials had, in fact, had direct, secret bilateral talks to Iran; so the State Department had effectively lied.


JAMES ROSEN, CORRESPONDENT, FOX NEWS: Is it the policy of the State Department where the preservation of the secrecy of secret negotiations is concerned to lie in order to achieve that goal?

JEN PSAKI, SPOKESWOMAN, U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT: James, I think there are times where diplomacy needs privacy in order to progress.


VAUSE: Now, earlier this month, Rosen discovered his exchange with Psaki, in which she acknowledged the State Department had, in fact, been lying, that had been edited out of the official video of that day's briefing. Here is how Elizabeth Trudeau explained the missing video last month:


ELIZABETH TRUDEAU, DIRECTOR OF PRESS OFFICE, U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT: There was a glitch in the State Department video.


VAUSE: Okay, so it was a glitch; it was a problem. Now here is the Spokesperson John Kirby on Wednesday.


JOHN KIRBY, SPOKESPERSON, U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT: You learn that there was a deliberate request; that there wasn't a technical request. This was a request to excise video.


VAUSE: In other words, someone at the State Department asked an editor to remove several minutes from the video archive.

Well, to walk us through exactly what's going on, Global Affairs Correspondent Elise Labott from Washington. Elise, big picture here: explain why this is so important.

ELISE LABOTT, CNN GLOBAL AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT, via satellite: Of you remember way back when the Obama administration took office, John, it promised to be the most transparent of any administration with the media, but we found many instances where the administration is not very up front. The Iran Deal is one of those cases.

This was certainly an instance where the State Department didn't say I can't talk to you about any questions that you have about Iran talks. They said there were no talks. So that's lie number one. Then when they found that there were talks, they admitted that they lied. Then they lied about what happened, with the glitch. Then when John Kirby, to his credit, actually did an investigation, not a very thorough one I might add, but did an investigation and found that someone at the State Department called and asked for that video to be edited out, which is really outrageous. So that's lie number three.

VAUSE: So has the State Department given any indication of who gave the order, who called for that edit to happen?

LABOTT: There are very few people in the Bureau of Public Affairs at the State Department that could have made a request, even fewer that have a lot of proprietary information about the Iran Deal. So, you know, there are some people that have ideas of who it is, but the State Department maintains that they don't know and they're not going to do a further investigation about it.

VAUSE: I do not recall, always a good answer. Jen Psaki is now with the White House. Is she saying anything about this?

LABOTT: Well, you know, she's quite embarrassed by it. She had no idea, she says, that this took place and just found bought it, also, about a month ago [00:15:02] when James Rosen went to go refer back to the exchange and found that it wasn't there. Yesterday on Twitter, she tweeted, "I had no knowledge, nor would I have approved of any form of editing or cutting my briefing transcript on any subject while at the State Department." So, look, Jen Psaki admitted, at the briefing, that the administration

was being misleading. So I think she was being pretty up front about that. I don't see why she would have any desire to cut that out. We don't know who made the cut, but Jen Psaki maintains it was not her.

VAUSE: Okay; great. Jen Labott, great to speak with you. thank you.

LABOTT: Very curious.

VAUSE: Very curious.

To Japan now. The 7-year-old boy who has been missing for a week has been found alive. His parents say they left him on the side of a mountain road as punishment for throwing stones at passing people in cars. When they returned, they say he was gone. For more on the story we're joined now by journalist Mike Firn from Tokyo.

So, Mike, first up, what condition is the boy in?

MIKE FIRN, JOURNALIST, TOKYO via satellite: Well, the boy is, according to doctors, in very good condition considering the ordeal that he has been through. He is slightly malnourished. He is slightly dehydrated. He has a rash on his arms and legs. He was flown by helicopter to a hospital on Hakodate, which is the closest big city from where he was found.

What happened was that he had been abandoned Saturday and he had walked about four kilometers to a self-defense force training facility, where troops stay overnight in huts with curved corrugated metal roofs, wooden floors and found one unlocked; gone in there. There were futon mattresses on the floor, so he managed to sandwich himself between two of these mattresses, because he was only wearing a shirt and slacks when he'd been abandoned by his parents.

He slept between the mattresses for warmth. There was a tap outside with fresh water, so he was able to drink, but he had no food for six days. When he was found by the SDF troops, the first thing he said, after confirming his identity, was that he was very hungry so they gave him water and they gave him a rice bowl before taking him off to the hospital.

VAUSE: Mike Firn, thank you. No doubt the boy's parents are very relieved. Mike Firn there, live, in Tokyo.

A short break here. When we come back, ahead of the primary here next Tuesday, we are seeing some interesting poll numbers between Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. Those after the break.

Also, one of the Bernie Sanders' biggest supports will join us next here, live in Los Angeles. There he is, Dick Van Dyke.


(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) [00:20:49] BERNIE SANDERS (D-VT) DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT CANDIDATE: Democracy is not a complicated process. what it means is you get a vote, and you get a vote, and you get a vote. One person, one vote.


VAUSE: Bernie Sanders there, speaking a short time ago north of here in Chico. He is in a close race with Hillary Clinton in California. A new poll from the "L.A. Times" shows the U.S. Democratic Presidential Candidate leading his rival among eligible voters by just one point, but losing among likely voters by ten points.

Hollywood has always been a mostly democratic, a star-studded cash machine, which has enthusiastically backed both Bill and Hillary Clinton; but Bernie Sanders has racked up an eclectic list of big-name supporters from Ryan Gosling to Mylie Cyrus, Susan Sarandon, Spike Lee, and legendary actor, comedian, dancer, entertainer all around good guy; Dick Van Dyke joins me now.

You are a Bernie Sanders supporters. why?

DICK VAN DYKE, ACTOR & BERNIE SANDERS SUPPORTER: Well, thank you, incidentally, for having me. I'm quite excited to be here.

VAUSE: It's wonderful to have you here.

VAN DKYE: The first time I heard Bernie speak, he described exactly what I have been noticing for the last four decades. He is telling truth about what's happening. We're almost (inaudible) at the moment. So I want him to be heard.

VAUSE: Do you think he has a real shot at getting the nomination or right now is he trying to push through his agenda onto the party platform?

VAN DYKE: Well, I hope -- I think he still has a chance, because he's nipping at her heels right now. The main thing is his message continues on. If his voice is like her silence, we're going to -- my grandchildren will live in an oligarchy, short and simple.

VAUSE: A lot of stars, they say they support a particular candidate. A lot of people come out and they say they support Bernie Sanders, they support Hillary Clinton, but you've actually been out on the campaign trail with Senator Sanders.


VAUSE: You were introducing him at a rally in Santa Barbara over the weekend. Take look at this.

[Clip of Dick Van Dyke on stage plays, no speaking]

VAUSE: They loved it. I don't want to be rude, but you have been around for a while.

VAN DYKE: Oh, yes. VAUSE: Have you seen a movement like this before, with a politician like Bernie Sanders who is pulling out the kids and the crowds?



VAN DYKE: I haven't seen it -

VAUSE: Okay.

VAN DYKE: For a while there -- I can't think of his name, the third party candidate, Ralph Nader.

VAUSE: Ralph Nader, okay.

VAN DYKE: You know, they're saying some of the same things. But what I've seen happen, in the '50s and '60s, democracy was really a democrat. There were no economic crashes because regulations were in place. The American people hit the streets and did something that the government wouldn't do, the Civil Rights Act. It didn't go down well with the corporate world.

Are you familiar with the Lewis-Powell memorandum?


VAN DYKE: A fellow who ended up in the supreme court. He wrote a memorandum to the National Chambers of Commerce, in which he said there's too much democracy and it's a threat to capitalism. He suggested they defend themselves by breaking up the solidarity which American citizens were showing at the time, to drive a wedge between them and get us one against the other, which worked pretty well I think.


VAN DYKE: What happened was, they took off the regulations for the financial world. Wall Street and the banks went crazy and the bubble burst and millions of Americans lost everything. Nobody went to prison.

VAUSE: Yes, it was moms and dads who felt all the pain.

VAN DYKE: Of course; yes. I think that will continue to happen. The Dodd-Frank Act put some of the regulations back in. It's a little weak, I think, but if the Republicans win this, we can say good-bye to that and a lot of other things.

VAUSE: I want to get to Donald Trump in a moment. If Bernie Sanders does not get the nomination, are you a Hillary Clinton supporters?

VAN DYKE: Anything to keep Trump out of there. He has been a magnet to all the hidden racist and xenophobes in the country, and that's who is supporting [[00:25:02] him. You know, I haven't been this scared since the Cuban Missile Crisis. VAUSE: I saw that you wrote that in "The Hollywood Reporter" and I

thought that was quite a big leap because, obviously, the Cuban Missile Crisis was an incredibly terrifying moment for the entire world and you're equating Donald Trump to that?

VAN DYKE: Because I think the world - the human race is hanging in a very delicate balance in a lot of areas right now. ISIS and North Korea and Russia and China. I'm just so afraid that he will put us in a war almost immediately. Isolation is a thing of the part. It's a global community now. NATO to -- to get out of NATO I think is tragic mistake. He scares me.

VAUSE: Okay. We had this rally in San Jose tonight and there were a lot of people outside and clashed with police. There was a face-off between Donald Trump supporters and anti-Trump people. When you see that does that remind you of any particular turbulent times that the U.S. has gone through before?

VAN DAYKE: The '68 convention in Chicago, when Eugene McCarthy was running. I was there for that, and it was scary. It wasn't -- I don't think it's as bad as now. People shouldn't demonstrate against Trump. he has a right to speak and I think that's a terrible mistake to do what they're doing. Let him speak. Let him have his say; it's America.

VAUSE: When you go to the rallies and you speak to the young people, are they surprised you are there? What's the reaction you get?

VAN DYKE: Well they're always -- they are happy to see me. I always say, I like to give young politicians like Bernie a break, because to me he's a kid. I'm 90.

VAUSE: Well, Dick Van Dyke, it's such a pleasure.

VAN DYKE: Thank you so much for having me; I appreciate it.

VAUSE: Thank you so much for coming in; honor to meet you. Thank you, sir. Take care.

A short break here. Next on "Newsroom L.A." their homelands are in turmoil but refugees will be able to compete at the Rio Olympics.

Also ahead, a new film explores why the 1936 Olympics Games marked an important milestone for African-Americans. We will talk with Blair Underwood about his role in a powerful new documentary.


VAUSE: Welcome back, everybody. You are watching "CNN Newsroom" live from Los Angeles; I'm John Vause. The headlines this hour: Iraqi security forces are expected to move into Fallujah soon. They've already cut ISIS off from the last remaining route into and out of the city. The United Nations says at least 50,000 people are trapped inside Fallujah and that ISIS is moving some of them into the city center to act as human shields. This dramatic video shows two children being pulled out alive from the rubble of a bombed building in Aleppo, Syria. The group Syrian Civil Defense posted this on its Facebook page and say regime bombings killed at least five people, wounding 11 others.

[00:30:06] After a week alone in a forest without food, a 7-year-old Japanese boy has been found unharmed, just hungry. Searchers found the boy in a military building six kilometers from where his parents had left him as punishment for throwing rocks. He tells searchers he found the building the first night there in the forest.

And, a medical examiner's office in the U.S. says music legend Prince died of an accidental opioid overdose. The toxicology reports show Prince gave himself Fentanyl, but it does not indicate whether or not he had a prescription. Fentanyl is the strongest opioid available in prescription form. Prince died April 21st, in his home. He was 57 years old.

Well, they fled war and poverty and were forced to abandon their homes, hidden among the nearly 20 million refugees worldwide are some world-class athletes. Now, for the first time in Olympic history, a team made up entirely of refugees' will compete in the summer games. Right now there's a short list of 43 athletes, and in the coming hours the International Olympic Committee will announce the official team going to Rio. The IOC president says the refugees will compete under the Olympic flag.

80 years ago, a group of African American athletes left a United States divided by race to compete in a Germany torn by Aryan supremacy. Many have heard the stories of Jesse Owens, the fastest man in the world, at the 1936 Berlin Games, but there were 17 other black Olympians who felt the weight of their race on their shoulders.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They have stories that have not only drama and drive and power and force but stories that can focus us again on something truly important about the human spirit about the human race, and what it takes to be truly human.


"Olympic Pride, American Prejudice" tells the stories of those African Americans getting to Berlin and their unceremonious return home. Joining me now is Deborah Riley Draper, the film's executive producer, director and writer and Blair Underwood, executive producer and narrator of the documentary. Thank you both for coming in.


VAUSE: I only saw a little bit of the documentary but it looks great. Deborah, first to you, what did the courage -- what was the courage for these people to actually go -- these black athletes to head out there, in a country that was so horribly divided? DEBORAH RILEY DRAPER, EXECUTIVE PRODUCER, DIRECTOR AND WRITER, "OLYMPIC PRIDE, AMERICAN PREJUDICE": You know, I think it was a tremendous amount of resolve; right? So these are athletes who spent their whole careers training. So the opportunity to go represent themselves, their race and their country in the middle of Nazi Germany was tremendous. I think that speaks to the courage of them as athletes and as people. The story was - what's remarkable about it is they didn't have the rights in America, but they represented America proudly and gracefully, and they stood on the medal stands and collected points for our country.

VAUSE: Blair, they received no real honors when they came home, it was all about Jesse Owens. Do you think, in a way, them simply going there and competing, did they pave the way for civil rights activists like Martin Luther King?

UNDERWOOD: They absolutely paved the way because this was kind of a non-violent kind of civil rights movement in and of itself, just by showing up. You know, when I was 10, my dad said to me, as a young African American man, as a young black boy, your presence is a political statement; I never forgot that. By the same token, by these athletes showing up and competing and succeeding -- as Deborah said so eloquently, they won hearts and medals. That's what's interesting about this, fascinating about this story, because you are talking about people who left Jim Crowe America to go to Nazi Germany, but, yes, there was a Nazi Regime that has certain mandates, how to treat these people, but the German people -

VAUSE: Treated them incredibly well.

UNDERWOOD: -- embraced them.

VAUSE: Okay; one of the big races is the 400 meters. It's an incredibly difficult race. Let's look at that.

[Video of 400-meter race shown]

VAUSE: So Archie Williams of the U.S., he won it and James Luval (ps) finished third. These were young kids, and we touched on that, on foreign soil. What can their experience teach people today about dealing with adversity?

DRAPER: That's an incredible question. Think about this, Archie was at Berkeley and James Luval was at UCLA. So grandchildren of sharecroppers were [00:35:01] able to go to college, big Division I, break the color barrier in college, compete in front of Adolf Hitler, in front of the world, and really just slap intolerance out of the way and really step on that and provide a pathway for athletes. So think about it. If these guys had not integrated at that moment, when would sports, as we know it, actually integrate?

VAUSE: I'll get to that in a moment, but we talked about not having any recognition back in the United States, but the entire world was watching these games. Did they have an influence around the world?

DRAPER: The stories that were written about them, when we did our research, we found more stories and footage in Europe than we found in America. So they were embraced and written about. Louise Stokes, the first African American woman to represent the United States, was the most photographed woman at the 1936 Olympics. So, they received recognition in a way that they had never experienced. So that reinforced their confidence when they returned home. Whether or not they were recognized or not, in their own communities, this bubbled up to a consciousness that allowed us to want more, more from ourselves and more from our country.

VAUSE: And were these trailblazers, you know, Jackie Robinson and all the great athletes that we see today, so is that essentially when they headed over there, they broke through a glass ceiling or a black ceiling or racial ceiling; I don't know how you want to describe it?

UNDERWOOD: No, they did. It's ironic you mention Jackie Robinson because his brother, Mack Robinson, was one of those 17.

VAUSE: Is that right?

UNDERWOOD: Yes. Yes. Yes. So it's very extraordinary.

VAUSE: So if we didn't have the 1936 Olympics, with these 17 incredible people, it would have been so much harder for Jackie Robinson, and even the black athletes we see today?

UNDERWOOD: Yes; you know so often it's the power of the idea. People have to get past their own blockade in their mind as to what is acceptable. So when you start to see athletes - and, mind you, the reason you had African American athletes running track and field was because it was not a contact sport. At that point people did not want black people touching them on the basketball court or football field.


UNDERWOOD: So, yes, it was a long, incremental, step by step process.

VAUSE: You know, when you started looking into this, did you think, well, race relations in the U.S. were so awful back then? They're going through a difficult time right now; but do you still think there has been a lot of progress made but we still need another maybe 17 courageous people to do what these people did, to move things forward in this country again?

UNDERWOOD: Well, you know, you can't deny the progress. It was remarkable to hear about the refugee team you just mentioned.


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UNDERWOOD: How do you look at refugees when you see them compete? All of a sudden it's a great equalizer.

VAUSE: That's the thing about sport, isn't it?

UNDERWOOD: Right. VAUSE: Because you get on that field and you are equal.

UNDERWOOD: You're equal, and it humanizes people in a very simple and a very basic way.

VAUSE: Do you find that, too, that everyone sort of (inaudible) Jesse Owens and then suddenly there was this sort of breakthrough in the culture or mindset that that's not an African American athlete, that's an American athlete?

DRAPER: Well, you know, there was a lot of propaganda on both sides of the Atlantic in 1936. So this idea of Jesse being a patriot and a great American hero was acceptable in the press, in the mainstream press. All 18 African Americans, that was at lot to take, at that moment in 1936.

VAUSE: And so that's why they minimized it, because they just wanted to focus on one athlete? They couldn't deal with a lot of successful black athletes?

DRAPER: Well, think about it. If you are a southerner and you have businesses that are predicated upon Jim Crowe, talking about the excellence and talking about how incredible these African Americans are, that kind of upends your whole Jim Crowe theory, right?


VAUSE: Very much so. Last question to you. when you look at the way these athletes were treated in the United States, spat on and called horrific names, these days people idolize LeBron James, black athletes around there. So, in some ways do you think the sporting world has moved way ahead of the rest of society here?

UNDERWOOD: I would say yes. I would say yes to that. I mean, of course, you've made stride in politics, I mean, look at the White House, and many arenas in the world. Sports has almost always I think consistently led the way because it's - especially, you think about boxing and contact sports, it's very objective. Track and field, it's very objective; either you win or lose.

VAUSE: Either you are good or not.

DRAPER: The gun goes off, you run.

UNDERWOOD: That's right, or not.

DRAPER: That's right, or not.


VAUSE: Well, Blair, thank you very much for coming in. Deborah, as well, we wish you all the best for the documentary. It's called Olympic Pride, American Prejudice and it'll be a good one to watch.

UNDERWOOD: Appreciate it.

VAUSE: Thank you.

DRAPER: Thank you so much. It's a pleasure.

VAUSE: Okay; well, an intense search is under way to find a group of U.S. soldiers missing in a flood in Texas, it has proven deadly. Details when we come back. Also, deadly floods are also moving through parts Europe; the efforts now to save some priceless works of art in Paris.


[00:41:08] VAUSE: A flooding disaster is happening right now in Texas and five U.S. soldiers are the latest victims. They died when their vehicle overturned in a creek in Fort Hood Texas, about 60 miles north of Austin. Three soldiers were rescued and are in stable condition but four others, still missing and more rain is coming.

Deadly floods across wreaking havoc across Europe. Ten people reported dead in Germany after heavy rains this week. One person also confirmed dead in France. Water is even creeping around the Louvre in Paris after parts of the Seine River overflowed its banks. Officials are moving artworks as a precaution, and closing the museum on Friday. The French government said it would declare a state of natural disaster.

Meteorologist Allison Chinchar joins us now with more. So, Allison, let's talk about the forecast. What can we expect?

ALLISON CHINCHAR, CNN METEOROLOGIST: A little bit more of what we have had, and they certainly don't need it. Here is a look, again, at the River Seine. You can see the top of the boat would hit the bridge if it were actually allowed to go that far. That's just how high a lot of the water is here in Paris. Currently the Seine River is at 5.42 meters. Now the record, set back in 1910, was 8.62 meters. So, again, still a long way off from the record; but, nonetheless, it's wreaking havoc in a lot of places.

The reason for all of this height added to the river? All of the rain that fell in the last four to six weeks. May was the wettest May on record. Average, they pick up 65 millimeters. This May, we picked up 172 millimeters.

Now, not only was it the wettest May on record, it was the second wettest month on record, only coming in behind July of 2001. Again, impressive. Here is a look at just the widespread scope of the storm, where you see not just one or two, not just even a dozen homes. We're talking hundreds, if not thousands of homes that are under water.

Again, here is a look at Paris, because, it's not just buildings that are having to shut down. Also, transit was closed for portions of Paris. Again, the key thing to note is the line. This red line shows you the track that it takes. We're talking about hitting huge things like the Eiffel Tower, the Cathedral of Notre Dame, the Louvre. All of these big, famous exhibits are along that line that was closed down. So it also has an impact on tourism. It wasn't just France; we're also talking Germany. This is

firefighters that ended up having to rescue folks. Again, John, we're looking at an additional 50 to 100 millimeters of rain over the next 72 hours.

VAUSE: That's a lot of water on its way; thanks Allison.

And thank you for watching "CNN Newsroom" live from Los Angeles; I'm John Vause. "World Sport" with Kate Riley is up next. And, Kate, Game 1 of the NBA Championship a rematch?

KATE RILEY, CNN ANCHOR, WORLD SPORT: Yes, of course. It was looking like a really tight one, wasn't it, very early on and then the Warriors really found their groove. We've got all the reaction from Oakland, and Game 1 of the Finals; next.