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McCain: Voters Choose Trump; Wildfire Sending Smoke as Far as Florida; ISIS Claims Ambush of 8 Policemen in Cairo; Is There A Path Forward For Bernie Sanders?; "El Chapo" Now Sitting In A Juarez Prison; Colorado Residents Cleaning Up From Powerful Tornadoes; Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor's Sister Dies In Car Accident In Arizona; No One Has Come Forward To Claim $400 Million Jackpot; Winning Ticket Sold In Mercer County, New Jersey; Police Officer Killed In Line Of Duty Saves Four Lives Via Organ Donation. Aired 4-5p ET

Aired May 8, 2016 - 16:00   ET

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[16:00:03] FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Sarah Palin dropping a bombshell saying that she will work to end the political career of House Speaker Paul Ryan all because Ryan is not ready to support the presumptive Republican nominee.

Meanwhile, Trump says he doesn't believe the GOP needs to be united because he's a different kind of candidate. Senator John McCain weighing in on the presidential race as well, saying "like it or not, Trump is the nominee. It's foolish to not listen to the voters." Take a listen.

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SARAH PALIN, FORMER VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think Paul Ryan is soon to be cantered as in Eric Cantor. His political career is over but for a miracle because he has so disrespected the will of the people. As the leader of the GOP, the convention certainly, he is to remain neutral and for him to already come out and say who he will not support was not a wise decision of his. I think why Paul Ryan is doing this, Jake, is it kind of screws his chances for the 2020 presidential bid that he's gunning for.

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We want to bring the party together. Does the party have to be together? Does it have to be unified? I'm very different than everybody else perhaps that's ever run for office. I actually don't think so.

UNIDENTIFED MALE: Should the leadership listen to those folks little bit better?

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA: You have to listen to people that have chosen the nominee of our Republican party. I think it would be foolish to ignore them. I think Joanie Ernst would be tremendous. She is really remarkable. I think there's a number of members of the senate. I think Paul Ryan is obviously - was helpful to the Romney ticket. I'm not sure he would want to do that again. I think there's a lot of people out there that he could choose from.

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WHITFIELD: All right. Let's talk more about this with Brian Morgenstern, a Republican strategist. Brian, this is interesting. You got John McCain saying it would be foolish to ignore the wishes of the voters. You got Sarah Palin saying it would be political suicide for somebody like a Paul Ryan not to be backing Donald Trump. So, has it come to this that the party itself says you might as well accept and everyone support because this is what we've got, this is who we have, this is what the voters want?

BRIAN MORGENSTERN, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: Fred, I think in any given year that would probably be the sense. But not this time around. Because Trump is unlike anything we've ever seen. I mean, this is a guy who is - he's not conservative and flip-flops all the time, yet, you know, the true conservatives got mad at Romney for not being pure enough in that. Now the ultimate flip-flopper is capturing the hearts and minds of so many of these Republican voters.

You don't even know what to do with it. So there's a lag time in terms of the leadership being able to catch up to what is going on and process it and figure out how to get through the next six months or so. My reaction was much the same as Ryan's, I think when Trump wrapped it up which is we got to process this. Donald Trump is the nominee of the Republican party. Holy moly, how did we get here? Let's pump the breaks a little bit.

So I think that's what's happening. But now Sarah Palin coming out and saying we're going to primary poll Ryan because he's not ready yet. Take it easy. There are several months until the election. You know, people figure something out.

WHITFIELD: You mentioned the word - words, flip-flopping. To most candidates, that is a bad word. That's a big demerit but it seems like Donald Trump is embracing that saying, yes, I changed my mind on this and it's OK. How is it that the flip-flopping issue is serving him better than most candidates?

MORGENSTERN: Because when the support of a candidate is based more on a culted personality than a policy platform or a consistent philosophy, I supposed this is understandable. There's the divide. It's the people who say business as usual is unacceptable. We got to knock over the apple cart. To do that, we need a personality who is just going to steam roll everything, everybody in Washington, burn every building to the ground.

And the other side, are these people who are saying "wait a minute, we've been fighting for these policies all our life, for consistent conservatives, we just wanted the chance to actually govern." It's these two factions basically with competing interests. One trying to work within the system. The other wanting to actually light the system on fire.

WHITFIELD: And if he were to win the general election, he's saying something else isn't he, Donald Trump, when he says, we don't need to be united.

MORGENSTERN: Yes. Well, and that's a strategy that I think is actually might be based on some data and not just arrogance. Because I think there is a growing thought in the political data world that this could be the year of the angry disaffected rust belt voter and that you might see a realignment in terms of the coalitions that make up the parties.

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WHITFIELD: And anger's being redefined. It's not necessarily anger at the Obama administration, it is anger at the party, the Republican party.

MORGENSTERN: Well, it's not just the Republican party. It's anger at the democratic party because - having seen a number of interviews with some of these folks and looked at some of the numbers, there are a number of these - for example, if you took your generic union worker in a rust belt state who has typically voted democrat for years and years and years, they feel disaffected as well, they feel ignored. That's why Trump's banking on that sort of realignment. That classification of voters switching parties and making up for the deficit he has in terms of the distrust from conservatives. That seems to be what he's banking on. We'll see it if pays off.

WHITFIELD: All right. Brian Morgenstern, good to see you, thanks so much.

MORGENSTERN: You too, Fred.

WHITFIELD: I failed to use the word hypnotism again. I love that word that you used earlier in talking about some of the Trump supporters but next time, we'll talk about it.

All right. Dealing with the rift in the GOP is definitely going to be a challenge, but Trump has a handful of top Republicans in his corner, including Senator John McCain. McCain says other Republican leaders would be foolish not to listen to the will of the voters. CNN's Manu Raju caught up with 2008 presidential nominee on the campaign trail in Arizona.

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MANU RAJU, CNN CORRESPONDENT (on camera): Your closest friend, Lindsay Graham just said that he's not going to support Trump or Hillary Clinton. Why are you ready to support Trump?

MCCAIN: Well, I've said all along that I would support the nominee of the party. I believe that a Hillary Clinton presidency will cause the economy to continue to stumble along and put us in the economic malaise that basically we've had for eight years.

RAJU: In some ways, I wonder if you think that the party leadership is sort of disconnected to what the base of the party wants, millions of supporters are getting behind Donald Trump. But the leadership is not. Are you worried that there's a disconnect there? MCCAIN: There has - you have to draw the conclusion that there is

some distance, if not a disconnect, between party leadership and members of Congress and the - many of the voters who have selected Donald Trump to be the nominee of the party.

We could go down the list, but a lot of it is older, white, blue collar workers who see no prospect of a job ever again. We see dissatisfied young people carrying student debts into their first job for many, many years. And of course a perception which is largely reality, not totally, that there's gridlock in Washington. And that's given rise to Trump and Sanders. And that's something that we in the Republican party are going to have to look at very carefully.

RAJU: Should your leadership listen to those folks a little bit better?

MCCAIN: You have to listen to people that have chosen the nominee of our Republican party. I think it would be foolish to ignore them.

RAJU: Is there anything specific in Donald Trump's national security profile that's better than Hillary Clinton? Is there anything specific that you like about what he said about foreign policy?

MCCAIN: Well, I think American leadership, he emphasizes that. I think that's important. This president doesn't want to lead. Hillary Clinton was secretary of state for four years. Tell me one accomplishment that she can point to besides the fact that she flew more miles than any other secretary of state in history.

Look, I believe that the Republican party must maintain its viability as a party and I am a Teddy Roosevelt, Ronald Reagan Republican. And I will do everything that I can to continue to steer the Republican party along those lines in that direction. I believe that the greatest president of the 20th century was Ronald Reagan. I will continue to try to move our party in the direction of those principles primarily peace restraints.

RAJU: Do you have confidence that Trump could be like Reagan?

MCCAIN: I think he could be a capable leader. I think it's obvious that there has to be outreach on his part and to heal many of the wounds. There's always wounds in spirited political campaigns but frankly, I have never seen the personalization of a campaign like this one where people's integrity and character are questioned.

RAJU: And that bothers you?

MCCAIN: It bothers me a lot. It bothers me a lot because you can violently almost disagree with someone on an issue, but to attack their character and their integrity, then those wounds take a long time to heal.

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RAJU: Would you appear on the same stage with Donald Trump - MCCAIN: I think you would have to be - a lot of things would have to happen. I think it's important for Donald Trump to express his appreciation for veterans, not John McCain, but veterans who were incarcerated as prisoners of war.

What he said about me, John McCain, that's fine. I don't require any repair of that. But when he said I don't like people who are captured, then there's a great - there's a body of American heroes that I'd like to see him retract that statement. Not about me, but about the others.

RAJU: You were quoted as saying that him at the top of the ticket puts your race in play. Makes it difficult for you. Is he good or bad -

MCCAIN: What I was saying is that there is a Hispanic vote which I have to continue my good relationship with because of the turmoil that exists in this whole national campaign. And so anybody who doesn't agree that there's great turmoil and then any incumbent doesn't recognize that and have to campaign as hard as they possibly can is unaware of the passing scene. That's what I was talking about.

RAJU: Would you be helpful, would you want him to retract those statements he made specifically about undocumented Mexican immigrants, when he called them rapists and criminals. Would you want him to retract those statements?

MCCAIN: Oh, I don't know. I think it's important that we understand the importance of the Hispanic vote in America. Many states - in Arizona, more than 50 percent of the kids in school are Hispanic. After the 2012 election, as you know we laid out a blue print and part of it was outreach to the Hispanic community. I think we all recognize that the Republican party has to do that.

RAJU: And he does too?

MCCAIN: I assume so. I haven't talked to him.

RAJU: Right now we're in the middle of a vice presidential speculation game. What was that like in 2008 for you and how did you end up with Sarah Palin?

MCCAIN: Well, I - I still believe that contrary to what has become the popular information and opinion is that Sarah Palin energized our ticket. I have polling data back from then that shows she did that. She beat Joe Biden in a debate. She energized our base. We went from three points down to about four, five points up.

RAJU: She also made some big mistakes.

MCCAIN: Of course she made some mistakes. Do you think that - yes. Obviously I made mistakes. I will take full responsibility for my failure. I will not put that responsibility on Sarah Palin. She energized our campaign. And I'm very proud of her. I don't often make a comment like this, but she was treated terribly by what we know of as the mainstream media and that's the only thing I will ever resent about my presidential campaign is her treatment by the media. It was disgraceful.

RAJU: What advice would you give Trump as he selects or nominate a vice presidential pick?

MCCAIN: Someone who will unite the party.

RAJU: Joni Ernst was just down here. She was mentioned as a possible -

MCCAIN: I think Joni Ernst would be tremendous. She is really remarkable. I think there's a number of members of the Senate. I think there's - Paul Ryan is obviously - was helpful to the Romney ticket although I'm not sure he would want to do that again. I think there's a lot of people out there that he could choose from.

RAJU: John McCain.

MCCAIN: No.

RAJU: You've had your time.

MCCAIN: No education in the second kick of a mule.

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WHITFIELD: "El Chapo" moving closer to American soil now. The infamous drug lord continuing his push for U.S. extradition after his transfer to a new prison in Mexico.

Plus, "Saturday Night Live" having a field day with the 2016 race. Even Dana Carvey can't stay away from it.

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UNIDENTIFED MALE: I do pray to god often and I think everything that happened was part of god's plan.

UNIDENTIFED MALE: Was it? Was it god's plan for you to get humiliated by an orange mannequin.

That's kind of an odd plan for god to have for you, isn't?

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WHITFIELD: Massive wildfires continue to rage in Canada but have not grown as large as firefighters feared they would. The burn area is still larger than New York City. Smoke is billowing as far away as Florida.

A top government official telling us this afternoon that two people died during evacuations. CNN's Paul Vercammen is live for us in Edmonton, Alberta. What's the latest?

PAUL VERCAMMEN: Well, Fred, the demonic winds are starting to settle down and that's good news for firefigthters with the fire burning to the west towards (INAUDIBLE). They had once predicted it would double in size, it has not.

The focus right now on the city of Fort McMurray which was ravaged by fire. They're making extra sure that they put out any flareups or any hot spots there. Firefighters working long, long days. Not just hours, but days. And they're receiving a lot of praise from very grateful residents and fellow firefighters as well.

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CAPTAIN ADAM BUGDEN, FORT MCMURRAY FIRE DEPARTMENT: I've met more heroes in this experience than I've ever thought existed. Sorry.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That's OK, Adam.

BUGDEN: Our community has more firefighters and more emergency responders, police, everybody that have given up their own homes that are safe, their own families that are waiting for them to come up in the middle of this beast to help protect my home. They're heroes to me.

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VERCAMMEN: Fort McMurray is an oil sands town and there is concern that this will affect production. The Bank of Montreal among others saying that this could dim the forecast in the future. We have heard anecdotal reports of some people being told to no longer report to work. Some folks obviously not able to get to work. It remains to be seen what economic impact that will have been Fort McMurray. And the emotional toll, many people here, this makeshift evacuation centers, telling me they just don't know what they're going to go back to. Maybe their house will be saved, but the rest of the block not. That just breaks their heart, Fred.

WHITFIELD: All right. Paul Vercammen, thank you so much.

For more information on how you can help evacuees, go to cnn.com/impact.

Coming up, eight policemen gunned down in a suspected ISIS ambush in Egypt. We'll take you to Cairo for the latest on the investigation.

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WHITFIELD: ISIS is claiming responsibility for a horrific attack near Cairo. Eight policemen were killed when gunmen opened fire on a minivan filled with plain clothes officers.

As CNN's Ian Lee explain this attack break a relative calm in Egypt.

IAN LEE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Fredricka, this was the deadliest attack in Cairo by insurgents since the 2011 revolution. Late last night, gunmen ambushed a mini van carrying eight policemen who were conducting regular security checks. All of the policemen were killed.

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We're hearing over 100 spent bullet casings were found at the scene. That gives you an idea of the fire power used. The insurgents then stole the policemen's guns and melted back into the night.

ISIS claimed responsibility in a statement saying it's revenge for women held in Egyptian prisons. The area where the attack took place Halwan (ph) is known for being sympathetic to the Muslim Brotherhood and militant Islamists. Egyptian security forces have locked down the scene with the Interior Ministry saying they will hunt down the gunmen and continue the fight against terror.

But what makes the attack particularly notable is that there has been a lull in violence here in the capital. In 2014 and in 2015, there were small bombs going off almost on a weekly basis. We haven't had an attack for months. This is a sharp contrast, though, to the ongoing and very deadly battle raging between security forces and militants in the northern Sinai where you have soldiers dying almost on a daily basis.

ISIS recently released a video showcasing their attacks on the peninsula and called for more people to join them. They also warned that more attacks like what we saw last night are to come.

Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: All right. Thanks so much, Ian Lee.

The garden state feeling the Bern today. Bernie Sanders expected to address voters at that New Jersey rally in just about 30 minutes or so from now. Stay with us.

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WHITFIELD: Hello again and thanks so much for joining me. I'm Fredricka Whitfield, Senator Bernie Sanders back out on the campaign trail. He's holding a rally next hour in New Jersey. Despite his uphill battle, he is vowing to stay in the race until every state has had a chance to vote.

[16:30:00] CNN's Rachel Crane is at that vote. Rachel, what's the feeling amongst supporters there?

RACHEL CRANE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Fred, this is certainly an uphill battle for Sanders seeing as it is mathematically impossible that he secure the nomination before the convention. But that is not stopping thousands of supporters coming out here today to rally behind Sanders.

Now we asked them if their support for the candidate was waning because he's behind Clinton. They said an adamant no. But when we pressed them if they would support Hillary if she was indeed the candidate, it was a mixed bag. Take a listen.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If we take the options Trump against Hillary, I think that Hillary should definitely -- I'd rather have Hillary than Trump. So, yes. It's something I definitely highly considered.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I feel very strongly for Bernie and I've had this discussion many times. But there's a good strong likelihood that I may not.

CRANE: Now that's something that we've heard a lot today from Sanders supporters. Not likely to support Hillary. Now Sanders will be hitting the campaign trail again here in the garden state tomorrow morning. He'll be in Atlanta City. He's trying to close the gap him and Clinton, seeing as the recent poll shows that Clinton is ahead of Sanders 2 to 1. This, of course is all leading up to the primary on June 7th, the same as the big State of California.

WHITFIELD: All right. Yes, thank you so much, Rachel Crane. There are the numbers right there. Is it going to be a close race? So, what is the path forward for Bernie Sanders? Is the momentum from his last win in Indiana enough to keep supporters energized?

For more on that we turn to democratic strategist and Bernie Sanders supporter, Nomiki Konst, and CNN political commentator Marc Lamont Hill. All right. Good to see you both.

NOMIKI KONST, THE ACCOUNTABILITY PROJECT PRESIDENT: Hi, Fred. How are you doing?

MARC LAMONT HILL, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Good to see you.

WHITFIELD: OK. So, Nomiki, you first. Bernie Sanders has said he's staying in it all the way until all of the races and people and voters have spoken. But at the same time, there's some wiggle room now that he says he would be open to talking to Hillary Clinton if it came to that juncture. What's going on?

KONST: Well, I think that he wants to see how the race plays out. I think all of Bernie Sanders supporters, and most of the Democratic Party really want to see this race play out.

Listen, it doesn't -- it doesn't matter if she's winning right now in pledge delegate count if neither of those candidates gets to the 2383 pledge delegate count, not including super delegates before June 7th, we're going to the convention.

And I think what he's indicating that is, that he wants to see how the platform changes, how the rules change on the DNC convention floor, and then after to have a conversation with Hillary about how the Democratic Party comes together and campaigns together against Donald Trump.

But the problem here is the convention itself. It's not just the super delegates. It's the rules committees. The rules committees were chosen by Debbie Wasserman Schultz. And right now it is mainly made up with Hillary Clinton surrogates and supporters, which is undemocratic, it's an unrepresented of the party and it really is an insult to many of the Bernie Sanders supporters and party members who have been left out of this process.

So, it's not just what happens at the convention with the super delegates, it's how the platform is chosen, it's how the rules are changed for the Democratic Party moving forward and the kind of party we want to be. Because don't forget, the party's 70 percent more progressive than it was 10 years ago.

WHITFIELD: OK. So, Marc, how do you respond to that and does that explain in part why Bernie Sanders would be campaigning in New Jersey a month before that race?

HILL: Absolutely. Bernie Sanders wants to keep that momentum going, his commitment is to being president of United States for sure, but he also wants to affect the conversation. He wants to help shape the discourse on the economic structure of our nation on issues of criminal justice, on issues of campaigning finance, et cetera, et cetera.

And so, for that reason, Bernie Sanders is going to the all the matter on this. Now, I do think there comes a moment where people inside of the party that begin to do this say to Bernie Sanders, hey, if you keep pulling Hillary to the left, it makes it harder for us to fight Donald Trump in the general election.

I happen to not of that particular believe. I believe that the voters have a right to decide. I believe Bernie Sanders has a right to go to the convention floor just like Hillary Clinton have the right to do so. I think ultimately, though, this is not a question of who wins the race. I think it's a question of what does the future look like for the

Democratic Party so that we don't have a moment where super delegates determine who the outcome -- what the outcome is and what party honchos don't decide what's legitimate and what's not.

WHITFIELD: And, Nomiki, drawing the distinction between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, that has been a focal point, but now, there's an issue of unity, just as, you know, Marc was underscoring. That seems to be the focal point. Can you have these two very different candidates and still have one unified Democratic Party?

KONST: So, when you look at the party itself and you poll party members and also progressives -- and we have to keep in mind there's a large new voting bloc of former independents that are progressive that have joined the race since Bernie Sanders joined the race.

[16:35:02] When you poll them you see that they overwhelmingly stand in line with Bernie Sanders' platform rather than Hillary Clinton's platform. They want -- they want corporatism outside of politics, they want campaign finance reform. They want criminal justice reform, they want universal health care and free college and affordable college. They want all of the issues in the platform that Bernie Sanders has suggested.

So, I think what Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party establishment really needs to pay attention to is where the Democratic Party is today. Not where it was 20 years ago or 10 years ago. Because that's really where the establishment is concerned right now with keeping the system that's been in place for a while which is really reelecting them in place and thinking about the future as Marc has said.

So, the unification is really about we're we stand as a party in the future because we're losing 10 percent of the party every single year. There are now more independents, registered independents nationally than the Republican Party members and the Democratic Party members and millennials by far independent.

So, if we want a future party, it would be smart to include Bernie Sanders' support and change the platforms and change the rules to be more democratic because we don't want a president chosen by a super delegate that equals 10,000 votes.

WHITFIELD: So, Marc, those are issues that, you know, that Nomiki just ticked off, I mean, those are issues that both candidates say they are advocating except they just have different ways to go about it.

So, if it turns out it's Hillary Clinton who gets the nomination, how does she appeal to the Bernie Sanders candidates who aren't seeing those similarities and issues but instead seeing only the differences in their track record and how they are proposing to -- to have those issues come to fruition?

HILL: So, I think first we have to be honest to say that there are certain differences between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton that aren't merely about approach or methodology. They have two fundamentally different conceptions of what role the government should play in our lives.

They have to fundamentally different -- conceptions of what university -- what university support looks like for a college student. Is it university tuition or is it an expansion of branch and funding.

They have different ideas about the role the Wall Street should play a role, the private sector should play more broadly. They're different candidates. And so, what Hillary Clinton has to do is probably not appeal to the ideological bit, but say, look, we have to be pragmatic here.

Hillary Clinton has a chance of saying to Bernie Sanders supporters, hey, I might not be what you want but I might be what you're left with. You might have to love the one you're with as the old soul singers say. The alternative is Donald Trump, which is much worse.

Now there are others who would say that the different, and myself included who would say the difference between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump is not nearly as large as some would suggest and that we have to sustain our radical imagination and actually hold tight to our fundamental beliefs about the world. Because if we continue to concede to these candidates...

WHITFIELD: Yes.

HILL: ... end up with people we don't want. That's what happened on the right.

WHITFIELD: Exactly.

HILL: They kept ceding to moderate candidates, they end up with Donald Trump.

WHITFIELD: All right. We'll leave it right there. Marc Lamont Hill and Nomiki Konst. Good to see both of you. I appreciate it.

KONST: Glad to see you too, Fred.

WHITFIELD: All right. Only the shallow waters off the Rio Grande separate El Chapo from American soil right now. Up next, what's next for the infamous drug lord as he continues his call for U.S. extradition?

Plus, SNL veteran, Dana Carvey reprises his role as the morally superior church lady at the expense of Ted Cruz.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You know, John Boehner, the Speaker of the House.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, sure. You know, John's always coming up with hilarious nicknames for me like buster or son of a gun.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I believe the phrase was Lucifer in the flesh. Yes, a little bit different than buster.

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WHITFIELD: Notorious Mexican drug kingpin Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman is now sitting in a new prison in Juarez, Mexico. And that puts him just a few miles across the border from El Paso, Texas.

CNN's Boris Sanchez is following the story from Miami.

BORIS SANCHEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Fred, this new prison where El Chapo will be held is actually rated by the National Human Rights Commission as the worst prison in Mexico. It's in the middle of a desert with nothing around for miles.

The idea of course being that if El Chapo plots a third escape, there won't be very many places to hide. The big question moving forward, though, is what happens next, and if he will be extradited to the United States.

One of the most notorious criminals in the world on the move this weekend. Authorities transferring Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman going from a prison in Central Mexico to a maximum security lockup in Ciudad Juarez, just a few miles from the United States. The exact reason for the move is still unclear.

But officials on both sides of the border have been laying the groundwork to extradite El Chapo to the United States for months.

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MICHAEL BRAUN, FORMER DEA CHIEF OF OPERATIONS: The only way that the government of Mexico is going to ensure absolutely that they don't go through another situation, another embarrassing escape just to extradite him to the United States.

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SANCHEZ: The drug kingpin had been kept the Altiplano prison, the same one he fled last July. His brazen escape allegedly made through a well-designed series of tunnels led to a national manhunt and drew international attention.

After months on the run, El Chapo was finally caught in January returning to the prison after his re-capture. The transfer to Ciudad Juarez comes just one month after Guzman's defense team said he wanted to be transferred to the United States as soon as possible. El Chapo's attorney say the conditions he was facing at Altiplano were unbearable making him seriously hill.

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JOSE REFUGIO RODRIGUEZ, EL CHAPO GUZMAN'S LAWYER (TRANSLATED): At 9 o'clock at night, they, at the jail, begin the nightly roll call. The next step is at 1 o'clock in the morning. But between 9 p.m. and 1 a.m., he said, if you could only know all the movement there, all the noise out there. It's impossible to sleep. Then for starters, during the day I cannot sleep because there is a roll call every hour.

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SANCHEZ: Though, El Chapo's attorneys have said that he wants to be extradited to the United States, there's some mixed signals coming from his attorneys. They actually filed paperwork to block extradition.

And last month, one of his lawyers told CNN that the whole thing was just a ploy to get his transferred out of that Altiplano prison. Now that he's transferred to the worst prison in Mexico, you have to ask yourself if it was a good idea, Fred.

WHITFIELD: And the charges he would face if extradited to Brooklyn?

SANCHEZ: Yes, they seem to be run out of a horror movie, murder, kidnapping, and torture, and of course, trafficking more than a quarter million pounds of cocaine into the United States.

[16:45:00] WHITFIELD: Boris Sanchez in Miami, thank you so much.

All right. Up next, a police officer killed in the line of duty. We'll tell you how his death managed to save the lives of four others.

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WHITFIELD: Checking our top stories.

Residents in Colorado are cleaning up tonight from powerful tornadoes that hammered the state. Five people are injured. Roads are still closed. Dozens of power poles down.

One twister was a half mile wide and left a trail of damage six miles long. The tornadoes touch down in eastern Colorado a very rural area.

And the sister of former Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor has died in a car accident. Seventy-seven-year-old, Anne Day was killed early this morning in Tucson, Arizona.

Police say her car was hit head-on by another car that crossed into her lane. Anne Day was known for her career as a teacher and her time as an Arizona State Senator.

And, no one has come forward yet to claim the more than $400 million he or she won in last night's lottery drawing. The winning ticket was sold in Mercer County, New Jersey. The total jackpot $429.6 million. The winning numbers here they are, 5, 25, 26, 44, 66 and the power ball was nine.

[16:50:05] More than three million three other tickets claimed smaller prizes from just a few bucks to $1 million.

All right. Now, to a police officer killed in the line of duty. Even in death he managed to save four lives through organ donation.

CNN's Kyung Lah has the story.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have an officer down. I have a wound to the (Inaudible).

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KYUNG LAH, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: February 8th, Grand Junction, Colorado, Mesa County Deputy Derek Geer trying to arrest an armed suspect in this neighborhood shot multiple times at close range.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No pulse at this time. Officer down.

KATE GEER, RICHARD GEER'S WIFE: We got to the E.R.

LAH: Kate Geer is Deputy Geer's wife.

GEER: And we went in to see him. They had him on -- basically on life support. But I think in my heart, I knew he was gone.

LAH: That wasn't the end really for him.

GEER: No.

LAH: It was the beginning of an extraordinary gift from a life already dedicated to serving others. First, the navy. Then...

Why did he want to be a cop?

GEER: I think he just -- he is just a protector. He's a natural protector.

LAH: Protector of his wife, son Ian, and adopted daughter Macy. He donated his time to children. And he told Kate, if something ever happened he would never stop giving. On February 8th, that moment came.

GEER: He was kept on life support for two more days to harvest his organs for donors.

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LAH: Buried without his heart, his liver or kidneys, Deputy Geer's organs would travel to four patients on the transplant list. His death and the funeral unfolding on the local news.

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ALAN BRONSON, HEART TRANSPLANT RECIPIENT: I was actually watching it and saying to myself, I hope it's not him.

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LAH: Watching from his hospital bed, 54-year-old, Alan Bronson near death. He only recently learned whose heart now beats in his chest.

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BRONSON: Realizing that somebody had to pass for you. I mean, that's hard. It's hard to realize that. Sometimes you wonder if you're worthy of it, you know.

LAH: To the heart recipient who probably would have died without that heart. Is there anything you want to tell him?

GEER: You have the heart of the greatest man. His heart was big enough for anything.

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LAH: For one life and another that now lives on.

Kyung Lah, CNN, Grand Junction, Colorado.

WHITFIELD: And we'll be right back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) WHITFIELD: Here at CNN, we like to recognize people who go above and beyond to help others. Here is the 2013 CNN hero of the year. He just recently planted his 1 millionth tree to help waterways.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I started million tree program just from being out here in the island to the Mississippi River. We started planting these trees to create more food for wildlife. They hold back the banks of the river. It helps the air quality. The roots actually filter the water. Trees are a great thing. And I really like trees.

What I love about is, it has a lasting impact. One tree is really good, but I think million is even better.

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WHITFIELD: Wow. So, where was that one millionth tree planted? For the answer, go to cnn.com. And while you're there, nominate someone who you think should be a 2016 CNN hero.

All right. In Saturday Night Live is at it again spoofing Donald Trump and pitting him against the church lady. Special guest Dana Carvey reprises his role to chat with the presumptive republican nominee.

And he also directed some barbs at Ted Cruz about being described by former House Speaker John Boehner earlier this week as Lucifer in the flesh. Here's a clip.

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DANA CARVEY, SNL'S "CHURCH LADY": All right. Let's talk politics, shall we? My first guest is someone I talked about quite a bit here on church chat, but we've never actually met face to face. Please welcome Satan.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think you can -- you can actually just call me Ted Cruz.

CARVEY: Oh, I'm terribly sorry about that. I'm just quoting one of your colleagues, Teddy, Don't get in a punch. You know, John Boehner, Speaker of the House.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, sure. You know, John's always coming up with hilarious nicknames for me like buster or son of a gun.

CARVEY: I believe the phrase was Lucifer in the flesh.

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Yes, a little bit different than buster. Now you've quit the race entirely. Why do you think it didn't work out?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, church lady, I suppose the American people weren't ready for a candidate with strong Christian values, someone like me who follow the righteous path and lives his faith every blessed moment.

CARVEY: Has anyone ever told you that you're just a little preachy? Just a little bit. We like our self, don't we? Look at that face. We love ourselves. Because we think we're just a little bit -- there it is. That's that happy superior face because we love Jesus more than anybody.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, I do pray to God often. And I think everything that happened was part of God's plan.

CARVEY: Was it -- was it God's plan for you to get humiliated by an orange mannequin.

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That's kind of an odd plan for God to have for you, isn't it? Tell me, Ted, man walking, what are you going to do now?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, actually, church lady, I've been thinking about turning evil for a while. You know, going to the dark side. I mean, I've been told to go to hell so many times, I think it's finally time to check it out.

(LAUGHTER)

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WHITFIELD: OK. All right. Safe to say SNL is having a whole lot of fun this election $ cycle.

All right. Thanks so much for being with me today. I'm Fredricka Whitfield. Much more Newsroom straight ahead with Pam Brown. Hi, Pam.

PAMELA BROWN, CNN ANCHOR: Thanks, Fredricka. You are in the CNN Newsroom, and I'm Pamela Brown, in this weekend for Poppy Harlow.

[17:00:01] It's nice to have you along with us. Let's turn to American politics. You know, especially at election time, there's a lot of highs and lows. And Donald Trump has the crazy week of both. One on one hand, he watch his last two republican rivals drop out of the race for the White House.