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Drone Delivering Contraband to Prison Caught, Stopped; Prosecution Rests in Rape Trial of Graduate of Prestigious New Hampshire Prep School; 54-year-old Kevin Daggle Shot Trooper Steven Vincent Sunday; Dow Sheds Nearly 600 points. Aired 3:30-4p ET

Aired August 25, 2015 - 15:30   ET

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[15:30:00] JONATHAN PAGE, DEVELOPED TRAINING COPS: -- neuro-pathways on the brain help you perform things better and then self-talk is used many different ways. What we did was went to the laboratory and said, let's find out what we can about how to make this work, kind of to the best of its ability to work. And we've come up with a systematic program to help officers train and to do better.

So again, the tactical breathing is just to keep your heart rate lower so that stress doesn't overwhelm you. So you can make decisions rather than just react to things on the street. And then the mental imagery and tact talk are there to kind of lay the foundation to create architecture in the brain to help you see your environment and understand things quicker so that you can make split-second decisions in that sense.

And I would also like to mention that there's been a lot of attention about how this helps lower stress and critical incidents but part of the training is also using mental imagery and officer dispositions, to help them with emotional instances, implicit biases, you know, climate culture diversity and those types of things as well. So we are finally --

BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN HOST: I wondered about that. I'm glad you brought that up. Because, you know, I think off the top of my head, when you think about this bigger picture and for example, we've been covering this trial of Charlotte involving this young unarmed African- American man, Mr. Kerrick, who was just deemed a mistrial a couple of days ago. But basically, you know, he was trying to get help from somebody's home, knocked on the door, she thought it was an intruder, you have this police officer show up, one of whom pulled out a taser, one of whom pulled out a gun, shot him and killed him. Shot him, you know, ten different times. And obviously, you know, talking to lawyers, obviously this officer came into this situation of preconceived bias thinking perhaps this was, you know, an intruder. And so, I'm wondering, you know, when you train an officer, when you go through everything that you're talking about, about the brain, how do you change those intangible, the biases, the preconceived notions?

PAGE: Yes. Well, it's not that we're trying to like get rid of those because you can't get rid of those. That's not how the brain functions in having--

BALDWIN: That's the thing. PAGE: It's having a way to understand the world and to have schemes

(ph) and stereotypes and those types of things helps us get along better in the world. So it's figuring out a way to use those to our advantage.

So one of the things that we do in those situations, cadets are trained to slow down. This isn't about hesitation. It is not about creating hesitations, but it is about slowing down and planning things ahead of time.

We were just finishing up some research in Baltimore yesterday and I had a chance to visit with most of the cadets, one on one, that went through our training. It started in January and they just graduated. And I heard some tremendous stories about how they are using it. They are in their third week in field training after 26 weeks of see through training in the academy and the academy training. And hearing things like how they approached a man on a bicycle with FTO, they were thinking about the safety concepts they had learned in C-2 training and they were repositioning themselves so they could see the area better, so they could plan ahead for what they were going to do. Just story after story about how these young cadets are reacting and some of the responses they said they got from the FTOs are like how in the world did you think to do that and one of the instructors was saying this is like they are graduating with five years experience.

BALDWIN: That's great to hear.

PAGE: And it's all about training the brain to recognize patterns and recognize things ahead of time and plan ahead of time so you're not caught behind the eight ball and reacting to everything.

BALDWIN: Listen, we've been covering the officer-involved incidents for more than a year now. And the one thing I've heard over and over and over from people is more training.

PAGE: Yes.

BALDWIN: So Jonathan Page, I really appreciate it. And perhaps, you can help other department as well.

Jonathan Page, neuroscientist, professor at Dickinson College, thanks.

PAGE: Thank you.

BALDWIN: Coming up, you have heard a contraband being smuggle in the prison, right? Drugs, foods, who know what else, porn apparently. But what about being dropped in on a drone? How common this has become? What prison officials are trying to do to stop that?

Plus, a race scandal at prestigious New Hampshire prep school, detectives on the stand today testifying that the defendant told them the rape did not happen. How that impacting the case, coming up.

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[15:38:28] BALDWIN: I've got some video I want to share with you now just send to CNN. This is a big fat whoops and a very expensive tumble. Keep an eye at the top of the screen, kid here in the (INAUDIBLE) shirt, scratches his left arm a little bit, he is 12 years of age, got his drink and he slips and he tried to catch his balance and instead he caught his balance on a very expensive painting valued at a cool $1.5 million. Watch it again with me. And we can all ooh together. Walking along, slips and trips and what you can't see is the punch mark in the painting that he left. Amazingly though, unfortunate for him and his family, the organizers of the art exhibit not asking his family to pay for the cost of repairing the damaged artwork.

Now to drones. A drone apparently set to carry porn and drugs and a gun stopped before it could drop its special delivery to a yard inside of a maximum security prison. Yes, this happened this weekend in Maryland. Authorities there showing off the seized contraband and the drone. They also announced the arrest of two men captured on a road just adjacent to that prison in Cumberland, Maryland. The drone plot is the first for this state but not for prison elsewhere in the United States.

So let's talk about this with former prison warden, Charles Felton.

Charles, welcome back. You know, listen. I saw this and I thought, again, the fact that people are now getting crafty and trying to get contraband in prisons with drones, this is a new problem.

CHARLES FELTON, FORMER PRISON WARDEN: Yes, it is. Let me say from the outset that they do a very good job of controlling contraband coming into the jails and prisons. But what you -- we witnessed in this situation is that it that presents a very frightening type of thing to the public and to the institution as well.

We recently had a situation, you know, a few years ago in Atlanta with the Brian Nichols where he got his hands on a gun and the damage that can happen from people who are confined, what they do with something like that, not just drugs but a gun in their hands. So this is something through collective resources we have to come together and try to make some kind of a preventive measures to prevent this kind of thing from happening in the future.

[15:40:44] BALDWIN: Well, you talk about preventive measures. I was reading in Maryland, this is according to the department of public safety and correctional services, this would cost a pretty penny. This would be between $350,000 and $400,000, this sort of radar drone detecting technology. How would you fix this? How would you stop drones from dropping contraband?

FELTON: Well, again, they do a good job. They do a very good job of making sweeps of the jail to see that there's nothing there. At this point, I think it's really a question of total observation of the recreation areas where people are assembled to stop this kind of contraband from coming into these correctional facilities because they can and will commit and result in very serious problems and an injury to not only the institution but to the public as well.

BALDWIN: Final question, sir. And maybe I thought have been watching too much "Orange is the new black," but I have to ask, what is the highest prized prison contraband? What do prisoners want to get their hands on the most?

FELTON: Well, basically, what you're seeing here is jobs and weapons happens to be a very much needed contraband in jails and prisons and this is what we're -- you know, they try very hard to prevent.

BALDWIN: Charles Felton, thank you, sir.

FELTON: Thank you.

BALDWIN: Next, detectives took the stand today in the rape trial involving students in an elite prep school in New Hampshire. What an investigator says the suspect told her as he was being questioned alongside his mother shortly after he was accused. That's next.

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[15:46:46] BALDWIN: All right. Breaking news, the prosecution is now officially rested its case in the rape trial of the graduate of a prestigious New Hampshire prep school. Owen Labrie is accused of raping a 15-year-old freshman at St. Paul's school. Last year, prosecutors say it is part of a tradition at the school, known as the quote/unquote "senior salute" where an upperclassman supposedly tries to score sexually with as many younger girls as possible.

Now, Labrie says, no, he did not have sex with these young women but some of his friends say he told them otherwise.

CNN's Jean Casarez is just fresh from watching the latest sort of twists and turns in this whole trial. Now that we know the prosecution has rested, you were just saying to me, they just ended their case with DNA.

JEAN CASAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes.

BALDWIN: What would they do?

CASAREZ: Normally when you end your case in chief, you want to end it with strong, strong evidence.

BALDWIN: Big boom.

CASAREZ: Here's the DNA evidence, Brooke, which is very, very interesting. Let's walk through this. What they did, they extrapolated from different swabbing that they took of the victim. They found no evidence of semen at all. So then they took a cutting from her underpants and they put that in a laboratory. They found an indication of semen in her underpants. So then it went to the DNA lab for DNA testing. And Brooke, here's what they found.

For fraction one, which was the non-sperm cells, they found his DNA as a minor contributor, the defendant. But it was non-sperm, non-semen. All right? In fraction two, the fractionated out semen and sperm cells, they found a mixture of DNA. So they couldn't confirm whose DNA it was. More than one, more than two DNAs they found. So all in all, what's the result? They could not confirm that his semen was found in her underpants. And so, that is a big, big win, in a sense, for the defense because he admitted that he had kissed her in her private area.

BALDWIN: For the defense.

CASAREZ: So, you know, the day started with the detective who interviewed him taking the stand. And, of course, this is hearsay, but the detective talked about what he had told her and there's wins and losses for the defendant but it all started out when he said, the defendant, that he wanted to go to a coffee shop for the interview with the detective. And so, the detective went there along with another detective and there was the defendant and his mother. And the detective thought to herself, you know, this just isn't good to have both of them here. And he said, my mother knows everything. So the detective decided, I've got to ask a very strong question in front of the defendant, now defendant and his mother. Listen to this.

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DET. JULIE CURTIN, CONCORD, NEW HAMPSHIRE POLICE: Kind of got right to the point and asked him if his mom knew that he was trying to be number one in sexual scoring at St. Paul school.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And how did he respond?

CURTIN: He glanced nervously at his mom, away from his mom, back at his mom and he said that his mama didn't know that. And it was very clear to me that a further conversation with him was not going to be conducive with his mom being there.

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CASAREZ: So, if you listen to that testimony, he did not deny it to the detective and to the investigator. That priority on his list was to score the younger girls at school.

[15:50:09] BALDWIN: So the question will he testify himself. We'll watch.

Jean Casarez, thank you so much.

BALDWIN: And now, more breaking news here. Wall Street looking at the clock. Ten minutes until that closing bell. Seeing a sudden drop-off, Alison Kosik down 120 points. What is happening?

ALISON KOSIK, CNN MONEY BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Closed with no cigar. Everybody thought that we would see the Dow, the S&P, the Nasdaq, and in the green. It doesn't look like that, the case in the past I say 15 minutes. We've watched all the major indices dip into negative territory. As soon as that happens, you can hear come here on the floor because we have been watching it all day.

Usually, the last hour, half hour of trading is considered the witching hour where a lot of volatility, a lot of trading is done. We are seeing the Dow tack on some pretty big losses. Just remember the Dow lost 588 points yesterday. Now add on 130 points to that. So we're seeing the Dow and S&P 500 dip deeper in on correction territory. So much for the rally -- Brooke.

BALDWIN: OK. We are going to stay and we will continue to watch for the closing bell. We'll give to John Berman a tad early to see exactly how the day ends here after a really tough, really, really tough Monday yesterday. I remember it dipped into the thousand digit territory in the first couple minutes yesterday morning. It has been a tremendous day this far. You see all the green on the screen, but now the sudden plunge. We will go back to Alison momentarily.

Quick Break. Back after this.

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[15:55:48] BALDWIN: Want to take you to Louisiana now where the man accused of shooting a state trooper in the head could be facing more charges in the death of his roommate. I'm talking about 54-year-old Kevin Daggle was in court just a couple hours ago. Police say he shot trooper Steven Vincent Sunday after the officer pulled up to help when he saw Daggles' pickup truck stuck in the ditch.

Police say in the reporting of the encounter, you can actually hear the suspect say quote "you're lucky you're going to die soon." The suspect apparently tried to run away from the scene. Other drivers wrestled a shotgun from him and actually helped put the handcuffs, trooper's handcuffs on him to detain him.

Officer Vincent's boss, colonel Michael Edmonson spoke about his ultimate sacrifice this veteran officer made.

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COL. MIKE EDMONSON, LOUISIANA STATE POLICE: Steven was anything he epitomized what a Louisiana state trooper is all about. This badge, it's a privilege. It's not a right to wear it. I don't have a right to wear it. But he wore it proudly for 13 years. He was ten years as a leg police officer. He was doing everything he's supposed to do. I mean, he is out looking for suspected drunk driver. He encountered a truck that has gone off into the ditch he is talking to. He's saying, you know, sir, I'm here to help you. I want to step out of your truck. I'll call a wrecker that come get your truck out of the ditch and I'm going to take you somewhere.

So he's trying to get him to come out. He is trying to keep it what police officers do, we de-escalate a situation. We talk with the person. We talk with them. That's how we teach our state troopers. And he was trying to get him out. And when he went up to the door and the guy pushed it open, out came a sawed-off shotgun.

Now, this is -- he'd sawed off the barrel. This was not to kill birds. This is not to scare people. This was to hurt someone and to kill someone. And that is certainly what happened as we watched it unfold in front of it. Thank God for those good Samaritans. I talked to everyone and they are heroes. I mean, Steven had a vision, he had a future and that future was not

to die as he did so tragically. And we can't forget that. And I've told his wife, I told his son, Ethan, we are not going to forget your dad. We are not going to let his death be in vein.

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BALDWIN: A vigil is planned for this evening. And first responders are asked to come in uniform in officer in honor of Officer Vincent.

Thank you so much for being with me today. I'm Brooke Baldwin here on New York.

Let's send it off to John Berman in for Jake Tapper watching that closing bell.

"The LEAD" starts right now.

JOHN BERMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: All right. Welcome to "the LEAD." I'm John Berman in for Jake Tapper.

We begin today with our money lead and we're just minutes away from the market close where it wasn't supposed to be like this, not today, after a manic Monday that saw the Dow shed nearly 600 points, this was supposed to be turn around Tuesday. And stocks did soar early on at more than 400 point at the start of the trading session, but it is all gone now and then some. Turnaround Tuesday turned in to tepid Tuesday, turned in to tough luck Tuesday.

This was supposed to be a rebound. This is the worst rebound ever. Now the only thing that is clear, it is extremely volatile market. Let's get right to the floor.

CNN's Alison Kosik live at the floor of the New York stock exchange. Also here with me, CNN global economic analyst Rona Paruhar (ph).

Alison, the last 30 minutes, this turned in what is going to be a very good day to now this big gloomy day.

KOSIK: Yes. So much for the rally, right? I tell you what, when all the major indices turned into the negative, you could hear an audible whoa on the floor because we've all been watching these numbers today. And, yes, the Dow was up as much as 441 points. But it only touched it for a little while and didn't really stay there. Everybody kind of knew in their gut this rally just wouldn't hold.

So you see the confidence kind of filtering out. You see that investors don't want to hold on to anything as they go into the night thinking, Asian markets open in a few hours. Remember a lot of the gains that we saw earlier today were propelled by a move by China central bank to cut an interest rate and to pour billions of dollars into their financial system there.

But everybody knows China has made these moves before, hasn't shored up the system. There goes the confidence. Also that rebound was just brief enough for investors to make it a profit and then it get out.