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Donald Trump Way Ahead In The Polls, 24 Hours Before The Big Debate; #Thewedonotcryforlions Hash Tag Is Trending; Not Everyone Is Outraged By The Killing Of Cecil, The Lion; A New Perspective On The Death Of Cecil, The Lion, From A Native In Zimbabwe, Who Cannot Understand Any Of This Outrage In America; An Incredible 911 Call That Saved A Boy`s Life; Controversial Picture Of Bobbi Kristina Brown Snapped At Her Death; A 19- Year-Old Man From Seneca, South Carolina, Zachary Hammond Was Fatally Shot By A Police Officer

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[21:00:08] DR. DREW PINSKY, HLN HOST: Tonight, Donald Trump way ahead in the polls, 24 hours before the big debate. It is like the Super Bowl,

everyone is going to get their popcorn ready to watch this thing. Hear what Trump is saying now. He is making everyone angry again. Anderson

Cooper will be here with me for the hour.

Plus, Cecil, the lion, backlash. The why we -- #Thewedonotcryforlions hash tag is trending. And, it all begins right now with the "Top Of The

Feed." All eyes on Donald Trump. He is about to take center stage at the 2016 Republican Primary debates. Take a look at this.

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KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: The word that could be Donald Trump`s campaign theme.

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DONALD TRUMP, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We have losers. We have losers.

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TRUMP: A bunch of losers.

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TRUMP: They are losers. They are just losers.

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PINSKY: A new national poll says, if the republican primary will held today, Trump would win.

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TRUMP: Right now, I am fighting because I am number one in the polls by far.

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PINSKY: The more Donald Trump says, the higher his ratings go.

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TRUMP: The poll came out two days ago where I am number one with the Hispanics. I know you are surprised to hear that.

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OMAROSA MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH, FORMER "THE APPRENTICE" CONTESTANT: I am watching this Trump Show, and it is the most fascinating thing I have

ever seen.

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TRUMP: She wanted to breast pump in front of me, I thought it was terrible.

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ANDY DEAN, WORKED FOR DONALD TRUMP: When he says something crazy, the media says, "Are you going to apologize?" And, he is like, "No." And,

then he takes even further.

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TRUMP: I beat her so badly. She is a vicious horrible person.

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AREVA MARTIN, ATTORNEY: To me, he is a big bully. If you do not agree with him, you are stupid. You are automatically stupid.

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TRUMP: People are laughing at us all over the world. They think we are stupid, and we are. I mean we are being led by stupid people.

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JON STEWART, LATE NIGHT SHOW HOST: John Hancock, he is a loser who -- what kind of a loser needs to put his name in giant letters on

everything, hey, what?

(LAUGHING)

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PINSKY: Joining me, Samantha Schacher, "Pop Trigger" on Hulu.com; Vanessa Barnett, journalist at HipHollywood.com and parenting website,

Stilettosandsippycups.com.

Anderson Cooper will be joining me in just a second, of course, he is the CNN anchor for AC360. He has just finished his show. He got to run

around the lobby here to get into the studio.

In the audience, I got Lisa Bloom, trial attorney at the Bloom Firm, legal analyst for Avvo.com and Andy Dean, CEO of ConnectPal and former

Apprentice contestant -- did I get that right? ConnectPal?

ANDY DEAN, CEO OF CONNECTPAL AND FORMER APPRENTICE CONTESTANT: You got it.

PINSKY: Got it. Worked for Donald Trump, himself, for like seven years. Anderson talked to Trump about his so called attack style upon

rivals. Take a look at this.

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ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: You have a no prisoner`s approach, somebody attacks you --

TRUMP: No. I do not have that. I am very different than you would think. Right now, I am fighting because I am number 1 in the polls by far

and I am being attacked on all sides. When you are attacked you have to -- in my opinion -

COOPER: You have been attacked all the time.

TRUMP: -- excuse me. In my opinion -- yes, but this is not the same thing. In my opinion, when attacked you have to, you know, defend and

attack back.

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TRUMP: The one guy, I guess it was Lindsey Graham called me a jackass. So, am I supposed to say, "Oh, it is OK, if I am called a

jackass." I am called a jackass. You have to fight back.

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COOPER: But is that presidential?

TRUMP: I think so. I think it is fine.

COOPER: Is that something, as president -- when you are opposed by somebody in Congress, you would give out their personal phone number?

(LAUGHING)

PINSKY: Anderson Cooper, who we just saw there, has finished his show on CNN AC360. Please welcome Anderson Cooper.

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING AND CHEERING)

PINSKY: Take a sit. Thank you. Thank you for this. AC just finished an hour just before us on CNN. Sometimes you collide with us.

ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: I am going to put my glasses on, because that way we look completely --

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PINSKY: I am going to line this up. We are precisely alike.

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COOPER: We are actually dressed.

PINSKY: Accidentally.

COOPER: We were on the phone tonight.

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PINSKY: As we are customarily. So, Anderson, you are the only one in the room, I think that spent any time with Donald Trump. He has captured

the imagination of this country in interesting ways.

COOPER: Yes.

PINSKY: What did you take away from that interview?

COOPER: Well, first of all, I cannot get out of the lobby of the Trump Tower. I am only allowed to interview him in the lobby, which is

where he does a lot of his interviews. And, I think it is partly promotional, because it allows people to see the Trump Tower, and it is

like a commercial of the Trump Tower --

PINSKY: You also said -- I was just watching AC a few minutes ago, and you also said that it gave him an opportunity to show you the crowds

from around who gathered.

COOPER: Without a doubt. A crowd gathers and then after the interview, he will take you over to the crowd. And, he will be like,

"Look, they love me. They love me."

PINSKY: See, there are Mexican people.

COOPER: Yes. Yes. Yes.

PINSKY: They like me too.

BARNETT: Everybody loves me --

COOPER: He actually did that. Yes. He pointed out Mexican people in the crowd and said, "They love me."

SAMANTHA SCHACHER, HOST OF "POP TRIGGER" ON HULU.COM: Yes.

PINSKY: Lisa.

LISA BLOOM, TRIAL ATTORNEY AT THE BLOOM FIRM AND LEGAL ANALYST AT AVVO.COM: Oh, my gosh. We cannot forget this guy called Mexicans

criminals and rapists. He calls women a piece of ass --

COOPER: He did not call --

BLOOM: He mainly -- He talks about how rich he is, and how everyone else is a loser, and yet somehow what does this say about the Republican

Party that 24 or 25 percent of them think he is a great choice for president.

[21:05:04] PINSKY: Andy.

DEAN: Well, what does it say about the Democratic Party that Bernie Sanders is polling at 30 percent. He is a communist.

(LAUGHING)

BLOOM: He is not a communist.

PINSKY: All right. CNN`s Dana Bash asked Trump about his debate prep. I want to get in to what he is up for tomorrow night. It is

becoming like the Super Bowl. I mean people are talking about. Listen to his debate prep. Here we go.

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TRUMP: I have to be who I am. You know, these other people. I know they all have their debate coaches and they all have their pollsters, and

they do not say anything without the pollsters. I am constantly brushing up. I mean, every time I turn on the television, I am brushing up.

Well, I watched Mitt Romney, where he locked himself in a cabin for a week, and he came in for that second and third debate and he was not able

to speak. Something happened to him, OK? It was not a good picture.

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COOPER: What happened to him in that cabin? That is what I want to know.

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PINSKY: There maybe something. But, I think, you know, in a way, I think his people are letting him pursue the strategy, which seems now to be

working, which say anything you want, man, and then explain yourself later.

COOPER: Well, also, look, I think -- Look, I got to say, it is refreshing to talk to Donald Trump, he is unlike any other candidate out

there. He does not come with handlers, who are telling you to wrap it up. I talk to him for 40 minutes at a time, and the interview could have

continued. I just ran out of things to ask him.

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And, it is not as if he -- you know, I think -- it is refreshing, whether they agree with him or not.

PINSKY: Right.

COOPER: Whether he does not have a lot of policy specifics, but that is not what it is about. And, this debate by the rules of it, there is 10

people on the stage, you each have a minute to give your policies. You do not really have time to get into specifics.

PINSKY: How can you get into policies in a minute?

VANESSA BARNETT, JOURNALIST AT HIPHOLLYWOOD.COM: He is preparing for this as if this is like a rap battle, like just Drake and Meek Mill. No,

you need to come with substance. He keeps calling people losers and saying what he could and should and want s to do for the country --

PINSKY: Vanessa --

BARNETT: But, I am not getting any facts.

PINSKY: Vanessa.

BARNETT: I need real thing.

PINSKY: Sam, can he win you? Can he win you over?

SCHACHER: Oh, not!

BARNETT: Absolutely not. Never in a million years.

PINSKY: Why? Why not?

BARNETT: Because I do not want my president to be an entertainer that is just cracking jokes and calling Mexicans rapists.

SCHACHER: Yes.

PINSKY: I remember this in the same rhetoric in 1979. I do not want somebody to be an actor in the White House. Who is this group ball?

Carter is ahead 60-30 --

COOPER: Same criticism. I mean I am not comparing Ronald Reagan to Donald Trump, but that is exactly the same criticism that was made of

Ronald Reagan. And, Ronald Reagan was not very detailed on --

PINSKY: Or polished.

COOPER: -- he had an overall vision. And, Donald Trump`s overall vision, I mean his tagline -- tonight pointed out, Trump`s tagline, which

is like, "Making America great again" is literally Ronald Reagan`s tagline. I think maybe Reagan`s was "Let us make America great again." It is like

that in somewhat.

SCHACHER: So -- OK. So, Anderson, what is your gut say, because you interviewed him. Did your opinion change after the interview of your

preconceived notion of who you already thought he was?

COOPER: I mean I try not to go into any interview with any preconceived notion.

SCHACHER: Yes.

COOPER: But, you know, I think Donald Trump -- you know who Donald Trump is. I mean, Donald Trump -- There is not suddenly a new Donald Trump

that is going to suddenly emerge. You know, he is a known quantity. And, again, he does express opinions, whether you like them or not.

You know, the criticism of a candidate like Hillary Clinton is that Brianna Keeler interviewed her on CNN, asked her whether who should be on -

- what woman should be on a bill. And, she would not come up -- she could not -- she did not want to name any one woman --

PINSKY: She would not give an answer.

COOPER: She would not even say it should be a $10 billion or $20 billion. I have a feeling Trump would have a very specific answer on that

question.

SCHACHER: Right.

BLOOM: Yes. It would be --

PINSKY: And, whatever it is --

BLOOM: It would be him. That would be his answer.

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PINSKY: No. Whatever he said would probable make everybody angry, but I bet Andy, he have some sort of an explanation later that we all go,

"All right. OK."

DEAN: Well, look. He says what he thinks, and the key is, he does not apologize later. And, that is the opposite of what every single

politician does. So, that is refreshing. And, a quick counterpoint.

So, in this debate, they are going to be 90-second chances to respond. There is no time for policy. There is time for sound bites and Trump is

the master at that. He knows what to say and what not to say.

PINSKY: I think, Anderson, next time you got to bring Kathy Griffin with you.

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SCHACHER: Yes.

PINSKY: We are going to keep this conversation going, and later, who bought that death photo of Bobbi Kristina Brown? We will tell you after

this.

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DONALD TRUMP, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: When Mexico sends its people, they are not sending their best. They are not sending you.

They are not sending you. They are sending people that have lots of problems.

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PINSKY: Donald Trump, racist or misunderstood?

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TRUMP: They are bringing drugs. They are bringing crime. They are rapists.

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VANESSA BARNETT, SOCIAL COMMENTATOR: He is a racist! He is a racist!

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ROLONDA WATTS, HOST OF "ROLONDA ON DEMAND" PODCAST: I do not think he is a racist. I think he is a strategist.

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TRUMP: I want to save the country. Our country is going to hell. We have a problem. I want to make America great again.

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ERNIE WHITE, CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST: You got one candidate right now who does not care about politics! And, that should be refreshing to

everybody.

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MARTIN: All Donald Trump wants to advance is Donald Trump! Every speech he gives he talks about how wealthy he is.

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TRUMP: I am using my own money. I am really rich.

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STEPHEN BALDWIN, ACTOR/FORMER "THE APPRENTICE" CONTESTANT: I think he had make a great president.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Why?

BALDWIN: Because he is not a politician.

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SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM, 2016 U.S. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: He should not be commander in chief. He is a jackass.

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PINSKY: In less than 24 hours, Donald Trump will take part in his first presidential debate -- primary debate. In 1988, Oprah Winfrey asked

the 42-year-old at that time, Donald Trump, about potential presidential ambitions. Take a look at this. .

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OPRAH WINFREY, TALKSHOW HOST: Would you ever?

TRUMP: Probably not. But I do get tired of seeing the country --

WINFREY: Why would you not?

TRUMP: I just do not think I really have the inclination to do it. I love what I am doing. I really like it.

WINFREY: It also does not pay as well.

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TRUMP: No. But, you know, I just probably would not do it, Oprah. I probably would not, but I do get tired of seeing what is happening with

this country. And, if it got so bad, I would never want to rule it out totally, because I really am tired of seeing what is happening with this

country. How we are really making other people live like kings and we are not.

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[21:15:03] PINSKY: Back with Sam, Vanessa, Anderson, Lisa and Andy. Trump now, 69 has changed his mind. Lisa, why do you think?

BLOOM: Because of ego. He wants to talk about how rich he is. And, you know, we talked about policy. Can we at least mention that he wants to

completely defund planned Parenthood?

SCHACHER: Yes.

BLOOM: You know, something that when I was a girl -- when I was a teenage girl, I went there. They helped me. That is true. From millions

of American women, I mean we should be talking about his positions, not just the fact that he speaks his mind.

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PINSKY: Andy, let me ask you. If I can get a hold of him and talk to him about how important Planned Parenthood as a health care delivery system

for young women, could I change his mind? Is he that kind of person or is he going to stand on some sort of ideology?

DEAN: No. I think Donald will listen. I mean, he is a businessman, but he also is a thoughtful person. So, if you have a good argument, he

will listen. I mean he is not dogmatic.

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SCHACHER: See, but that is the thing --

BARNETT: Who does not know that already? Who does not know that the funding --

PINSKY: Listen. Congress does not seem to know it. Some of them wanted to defund Planned Parenthood. I cannot believe it.

SCHACHER: And, there is so much misinformation about Planned Parenthood.

PINSKY: Yes.

SCHACHER: They are all upset about this video, rightfully, so. However, the government funding that goes into the abortions, Planned

Parenthood cannot even collect.

BARNETT: Right.

SCHACHER: That is from privatized funding. All the other funding out there, for contraception, for cancer --

BARNETT: Health care.

SCHACHER: -- yes, screenings, for health care, for STD treatment. That is what Planned Parenthood is providing. That is so important.

PINSKY: I fought very hard for Planned Parenthood early in the `80s, when we had trouble getting people to understand about HIV and STDs. And,

each planned parenthood is individually managed. They are like a little sort of -- It is not a unified collection.

It is individually run operations that have a lobby group play in parenthood global that sort of helps them get funds and what not. As it

pertains to Planned Parenthood, I want to mention something else. Although, he leads in the polls amongst registered female voters have a

problem. 62 percent have a negative impression.

SCHACHER: Hmm, I wonder why? Here he is trying to shut down our -- I am sorry. When I came out of college, that was my health care service.

BARNETT: Right.

COOPER: That is in a general election nationwide.

PINSKY: Yes.

COOPER: That is democrats and republicans and independents. Among GOP women, he leads the pack well over Jeb Bush.

PINSKY: Is it a --

BARNETT: Shocking.

SCHACHER: Yes, very shocking.

COOPER: Yes. I think among GOP women, I mean he got a very high favorability ratings.

PINSKY: Audience member. Yes, sir?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Hi, I just want to say that with Donald Trump, I would be very skeptical of having somebody in office whose

idea of helping out the situation in Iran would be going and bombing all of them.

BLOOM: Thank you.

PINSKY: Have he said that?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes. Yes.

BARNETT: Yes. He wants to bomb the oilfield.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: He said that he -- In one of his interviews he was talking about, "Oh, everybody attacks me and I am going

to go attack them in reference to the presidential debate.` I would not want to trust anybody with that mentality with nuclear weapons, personally.

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

SCHACHER: Yes, I agree.

PINSKY: And, I have had arguments with people on the radio, where people say his international posture would be far more effective than you

might imagine. I feel kind of like him. It kind of scares me that somebody is bombastic and impulsive.

COOPER: Well, I mean it is interesting. I put his -- I mean, the only real policy he has specified is his policy on how he would deal with

ISIS --

SCHACHER: Right.

COOPER: -- which is literally bombed the hell out of them, I think is the exact quote. But -- and bomb the oilfields and take the oil. I put

his -- that specifically to general Mark Hertling who ran U.S. Military Operations for two years in Northern Iraq, who said -- who is not a

political guy, who just said it is ludicrous. And, so, a lot of military people do not really agree with the idea that you can just bomb the

oilfields, take the oil --

PINSKY: But, Anderson, is that just rhetoric to get elected, then he would listen to the military people, or is this somebody who would actually

do the kinds of things he is threatening?

COOPER: I do not know. I mean look, I think we are a long way off from him becoming president and a long way off from him, actually, figuring

out a policy. I do think it is something that, you know, it is an argument, somebody in a bar would make. Let us bomb the hell out of them,

and there is a certain satisfaction to, yes --

DEAN: Insulting. That is insulting. Bombing works. World War II, we bomb the Nazis. We bomb the Japanese --

PINSKY: But Andy -- Andy --

DEAN: You can bomb ISIS. And by the way, this guy, he is not the guy that was right here is not bright. He was not talking Obama --

BARNETT: No!

SCHACHER: See, you cannot say things like that -- hold on.

DEAN: Listen. No, this guy was -- this guys is an idiot. Trump was not talking about Iran. He was talking about is. They are totally

different group.

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BARNETT: He could misspeak.

SCHACHER: Hold on.

BARNETT: That does not make him an idiot.

SCHACHER: You cannot talk to him like that.

BARNETT: Right.

(CROSSTALK)

PINSKY: One at a time. Whoa! Whoa!

SCHACHER: Wait a second, Dean, no wonder that you pal around with Donald Trump, considering that you are so quick to call this guy an idiot.

That is not OK.

DEAN: This guy confused Iran and ISIS.

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PINSKY: Hold on.

DEAN: Wait. Stop. What are you clapping for? Just liberal crowd in L.A. needs to calm down.

(LAUGHING)

DEAN: He confused Iran and ISIS. He is insulting somebody`s foreign policy --

SCHACHER: Dean.

DEAN: -- when this guy does not know the difference between Iran and ISIS.

SCHACHER: You can disagree --

DEAN: This guy is a Moron not Trump.

SCHACHER: You can disagree with someone -- you disagree with someone without calling him a name.

DEAN: No, because this guy is an idiot, though.

PINSKY: No. No.

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BARNETT: It is uneducated, if you can only insult someone without disagreeing with him. If you can only use insults in your argument, that

is uneducated --

(CROSSTALK)

DEAN: That is 2 + 2 = 4.

BARNETT: That is not being bright. That is being an idiot.

DEAN: Iran and ISIS are different groups.

[21:20:00] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: He is actually making my argument.

PINSKY: Go ahead.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: He is actually making my argument.

PINSKY: Yes, ma`am.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: His campaign is only a structure of like what he as president is going to be. He has no filter.

BLOOM: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: He is reckless. He says not just stuff about Iran. He talks about Mexico. He is talking about all

these other countries. And, who is going to put his foot in his mouth, it is going to be trouble for America, if he keeps on with his recklessness.

We do not want a war here. We have never had a war here. And, we are not going to have a war here, because this guy`s recklessness and ego.

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

PINSKY: Thank you, ma`am.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: And stupidity. So, he keeps on talking about each country. He is going to start something here. Do you

believe that?

PINSKY: Hold your thought.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: He talked about Japan.

DEAN: I will tell you what.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: He talked about --

DEAN: Obama giving $100 billion, Iran is reckless.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: -- Obama, Obama thing is over way. We only have one more year.

DEAN: OK. Well, tell that to the Iranian.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: One more year.

DEAN: Tell than to the Iranians.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: One more year.

PINSKY: Hold on, guys.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: It is done.

PINSKY: Hold on.

DEAN: We got to get a smarter audience here.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Obama has done -- he has country for almost -- 16 years, wait a minute -- four --

PINSKY: Eight years.

DEAN: Here we go.

(LAUGHING)

SCHACHER: Welcome to the show, Anderson.

PINSKY: Hold on. We got to go to a break. We got to go to a break. -- Good.

COOPER: What the hell did I wander into?

(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)

PINSKY: I know. Well done. I am glad you came. Thank you for joining.

COOPER: What the hell is going on?

PINSKY: It is like a family dinner where people start arguing and throwing food and what not.

COOPER: Oh, OK.

PINSKY: It is all good. We love each other here. Relax.

COOPER: Have people been drinking?

(LAUGHING)

COOPER: But, Anderson, I will say.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: -- to be out president.

PINSKY: And, I will say though, the thing you have said that started this whole thing, though, before I go to break, is that the things he says

are gratifying. They are gratifying to hear somebody say, "They are so a political." "They so a PC."

COOPER: Well, it is nice to hear somebody who is not a politician who says what they think, whether what they think is right or wrong.

PINSKY: But it is literally like you said, this is not -- Andy, this is not being critical. It is literally something you might hear in a bar,

and people talk like that. And, they respond to that kind of rhetoric.

COOPER: Yes. I am not somebody who insults any candidate, because frankly, you know, anybody puts themselves in the public realm and wants to

serve this country I think is admirable; but, I do think it is refreshing. I mean like I have said, I enjoyed talking to Donald Trump.

PINSKY: You cannot deny.

COOPER: It is very refreshing.

PINSKY: You cannot deny that piece. Next, more on that.

And, later, not everyone is outraged by the killing of Cecil, the lion. Plenty of people think -- believe it or not, it was the right thing

to do. We will talk about it after this.

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[21:26:33] TRUMP: There is a silent majority out there. We are tired of being pushed around, kicked around, and acting and being led by stupid

people.

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SEGMET CHUBAKA (ph), AUDIENCE MEMBER: First of all, you all need to leave Trump alone, OK? Because I am for Trump today and forever. He can

make this world a better place because he knows how to make money. He knows how to get money.

(LAUGHING)

(END VIDEO CLIP)

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CHUBAKA: He said a lot more greater things that nobody focused on one great thing that he did say, and I listened to him. And, he said that he

could make this world a better financial place, which is what we need, because we are really in debt.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: But he is like you and I. Just because he has money does not mean that he does not have feelings.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: It is refreshing because we have had so many politically correct presidents. And, I appreciate what they

have done. But, I am ready for a straight to the point entrepreneur to be in charge of the country.

PINSKY: Do you hear this?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: He is not a racist. And he is just against illegal immigration, because we do have a lot of illegals in

our community.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I understand that, you know, everyone calls him a racist or buffoon, but he is honestly just like a

normal person like he is just very real.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: He is off the cuff. He is real.

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PINSKY: Our audience surprised me with all the supporters -- the diversity of supporters that came forward, and they keep coming. Back with

Sam, Vanessa, Anderson, Lisa, Andy. Anderson, when you see that tape, does that surprise you?

COOPER: It does not really. I mean I think it is what we are seeing in polls, people around the country. I mean look, he is dominating the

polls. I mean, nobody predicted this. I am not even sure if he predicted this, but he is -- I certainly do not think the other candidates took him

seriously early on. They are certainly taking him very seriously now.

PINSKY: What is he tapping into? What is the frustration? Again, I have a radio program on KABC, and I talk about Trump a lot. And, I keep

getting the feedback from African-American and Latino people, who feel that their jobs are being taken by undocumented workers. Their angry about

that.

I hear people, who are saying that they want to stop winding about work, and get to work. And, that there is sort of a bad attitude that they

want to correct themselves. They see in their community. Is that what he is tapping into?

SCHACHER: Well, here is the thing. Like he can, of course, there needs to be immigration reform, but again it is how he makes gross

generalizations. I do not want that as a president. I do not understand. I feel like everyone is high.

(LAUGHING)

I feel like everyone is drinking the Donald Trump Kool-Aid. I do not understand after he is offending people left and right. Yes, there is a

lot of truth to his statements, but I do not like the delivery. And, I do not think that it is presidential. And, I do not like his tactics.

PINSKY: Well, Vanessa said -- called it what it was. You called him racist.

BARNETT: I called him racist. I think I called him a douche and a scumbag. I think I have called him several things.

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING AND CHEERING)

BARNETT: I think I have called him several things and I mean, everyone keeps talking about how he is brushing in --

PINSKY: Why do not we make an agreement here? You do not use stupid. You do not say douche bag. I am just saying. Let us be civil this

conversation.

COOPER: I did not even know you could say douche bag.

(LAUGHING)

BARNETT: I do not know if I cannot, I am sorry. What I am saying is, OK, yes, he is refreshing --

PINSKY: It is HLN live.

BARNETT: But we just care it refreshing to bar speak. Why is bar speak and being refreshing --

PINSKY: Because that is how people speak in this country.

BARNETT: But, that is not how our president should speak. You want the president going overseas, speaking to other countries that way. They

are not going to say, "Well, he is refreshing."

SCHACHER: Yes.

BARNETT: They are not going to say that.

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

COOPER: I, actually, asked Trump about this. You know, I said, "Look, the way you are handling things, the way giving out Lindsey Graham`s

phone number or calling people stupid, is that presidential? Is that something you would do as president?

PINSKY: Yes.

COOPER: He said he would change his tone as president.

BARNETT: Yes.

COOPER: And, that he has made deals in the past. He has, you know, worked with a lot of different people. He knows how to get people

together. He is a uniter not a divider.

PINSKY: He is a pugilist as a candidate.

BLOOM: This is like a boyfriend saying, marry me. You know, I will change after we get married.

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(LAUGHING)

BARNETT: Exactly.

[21:30:00] BLOOM: And, by the way, what has Donald Trump ever done for some other person? He has zero political experience. Has he ever done

anything for the community?

PINSKY: He has given a lot of money, has not he?

BLOOM: Other than giving money. What kind of community activity?

DEAN: The Celebrity Apprentice. That is just showing --

BLOOM: Oh, reality T.V., that is a great background.

DEAN: He shared millions of dollar for charity. You can laugh at him. He has done more than you have. So, I do not know what --

(LAUGHING)

BLOOM: Well, you do not know what I do, actually.

DEAN: Have you raised tens of millions of dollars?

BLOOM: I have not raised tens of millions of dollars.

DEAN: Well, then thank you , you just admitted my point.

BLOOM: No. That is not my point, because I spent a lot of time doing charitable work.

DEAN: But, you are just making thousands for charity.

BLOOM: And, what has Donald Trump done. What has he done for the community? What kind of civic engagement has he ever had for other people?

DEAN: He has given veterans group. He speaks for charities. I mean like the idea that the guy is not charitable because of this show.

BLOOM: You know, so he gets a nice tax deduction.

DEAN: But, you guys have turned him into some sort of a media -- has turned him into some sort of buffoon. He is a billionaire. I have watched

him negotiate complex real estate deals.

What he is doing now is extremely brilliant. OK? He is moving to the right to win the primary. Just like when Obama in 2008, he moved to

the left to win his primary. And, then when he wins the primary, you move to the center. It is what all politicians have to do. That is the system.

PINSKY: And --

BLOOM: You know, presidents do not negotiate real estate deals by the way.

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DEAN: Business is business. Business is business.

BLOOM: OK. He is a great businessman.

DEAN: Thank you.

BLOOM: But what does that have to do with being president?

SCHACHER: Andy.

DEAN: Everything.

SCHACHER: OK. What do you think about him shutting down the government because of the whole Planned Parenthood thing? Do you think

that is a good idea?

DEAN: I personally --

SCHACHER: That is for the economy.

DEAN: I disagree and I do not think he thinks that about Planned Parenthood.

BLOOM: That is what he said.

DEAN: Well, look --

SCHACHER: He said he will shut the government down.

DEAN: Politicians say things that they do not mean all the to get elected. That is the reality.

SCHACHER: OK.

DEAN: Obama was against gay marriage, and now he is for it. That is just what they do to get elected. I mean that is just the reality.

PINSKY: To be fair, I mean he was there at sort of the turnaround of New York City`s real estate market and really was there when New York --

and New York was a mess. And, he was there really championing New York as a place to bring investment capital and he changed New York City. I mean

you got to hand the guy that, right?

BLOOM: He did?

PINSKY: Yes, he did. Am I wrong here?

DEAN: No. I think you touch onto a larger point, which is he has a simple vision, right? He speaks like Reagan. Everybody is like, "Where

are the specifics?" A leader has a vision, and that is the vision that he is presenting, "Make America Great Again." And, he talks in simple terms

and people are responding, and the polls show it.

PINSKY: Let me tell you another piece of this story. When other people are beginning to respond to him, they are ending up putting their

own foot in their mouth. Here is Kelly Osbourne is attempting to take issue with Trump`s controversial statements about Mexicans and Latinos.

She ends up in hot water. Watch this from ABC`s "The View."

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KELLY OSBOURNE, BRITISH SINGER-SONGWRITER/ ACTRESS/FASHION DESIGNER: If you kick every Latino out of this country, then who is going to be

cleaning your toilet, Donald Trump?

ROSIE PEREZ, ABC HOST OF "THE VIEW" PROGRAM: Oh, that is not --

OSBOURNE: In a sense that --

PEREZ: No.

OSBOURNE: You know what I mean. What I am saying --

PEREZ: You know, there is more jobs to be --

OSBOURNE: In LA, they always --

PEREZ: But Latinos are not the only people doing that.

OSBOURNE: No. I did not mean it like that. Come on. No. I would never mean it like that. OK. I am not part of this argument.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PINSKY: No, not me. Kelly, later apologized on Facebook for her, quote, "Poor choice of words." But ended up with her apology with this

line, quote, "I clean my own f-ing toilets." But, it is an interesting point, that people have to watch out about language.

If she had said, for instance, which is what she meant -- I got to defend Kelly on this one, which is they will do every job. They are here

to work. They will even -- they are probably cleaning Mr. Trump`s toilets. What is he going to do when he does not have people who will do anything

for a job? That is different than those people --

COOPER: Not well said.

PINSKY: Not well said. Yes, ma`am.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I think my question is, when he says he wants to make America great again, what does that mean? And, all

of the people who are supporting him, that America does not reflect them?

Africans built New York as well, so what is -- like what does that statement mean? What are you going to do for the people, if you take away

funding from Planned Parenthood, what are you replacing?

SCHACHER: Thank you. Thank you.

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

PINSKY: Do you have a sense of -- somebody was saying, I want to make America great, what would that be?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Well, I feel education. I think that we need so much more funds put towards that. Like talk about the

policies. I understand that you want to be real. I understand that you are trying to connect, but connect on a level that shows me how are you

going to improve my community. What are you going to do for the American people? Being rich is not enough.

PINSKY: Guess what, family and education. Back to basics.

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

COOPER: Although --

PINSKY: Anderson, go ahead.

COOPER: In fairness to Donald Trump, we are hearing from a lot of candidates, very general statements about, you know, "I want an economic

policy that is fair." What does that actually mean?

So, I mean with Hillary Clinton has language, which is very broad and which is like a Rorschach test, you can see in it whatever you want to see.

So, a lot of politicians do that, and we are very early on in the process. I mean the fact that we are all so -- that you are devoting an entire show

so far to a GOP primary? --

PINSKY: Yes.

COOPER: -- Is incredible. And, speaks to the level of interest that Donald Trump has brought to this. And, I think that is a good thing. If

more people are involved in the process, why not?

PINSKY: I agree, and wait until you see the ratings tomorrow night, with the debates. People are lining up for that like it is a major -- like

it is a Super Bowl.

COOPER: You sound like Donald Trump. Huge rating. Huge rating.

(LAUGHING)

BLOOM: It is going to be huge.

PINSKY: You pretty good at predicting that kind of thing.

[21:35:00] Next up -- thank you, everybody. I got an update on Cecil, the lion. And, later an incredible 911 call that saved a boy`s

life. A kid in a closet and called for assistance, back after this.

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SIMONE REYES, ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVIST: The mob is walking toward compassion, then I say let the mob run everybody else over who wants to

murder and kill animals, absolutely.

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SCOTT NATHAN, BIG HUNTER GAME: A chicken that is born and dies in the same cage, that is cruel. An animal -- a wild animal who was taken

humanely, that is an animal whose life has meaning.

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REYES: When you do not need to kill animals -- this is not prehistoric times. There is a want to kill animals.

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NATHAN: It felt like harvesting a natural resource. It felt like something that was in my DNA was awakened

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BARNETT: We have dominion over animals. We are the superior species around here.

SANDRA CLARK, ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVIST: Cecil, the lion does not care. How do you know that? And, I think --

MICHAEL CATHERWOOD, "LOVE LINE" AND KABC CO-HOST AND HOST OF "CHAIN REACTION" ON GSN: Cecil will eat --

CLARK: For you to think we are above the animals.

CATHERWOOD: Listen, Sandra. Sandra.

CLARK: Who do you think you are? --

[21:40:00] CATHERWOOD: I am a huge -- I do not eat meat. I am acutely aware of how animals have feelings. But, make no mistakes if Cecil

had his choice, he would eat all of us.

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PINSKY: A new perspective on the death of Cecil, the lion, from a native in Zimbabwe, who cannot understand any of this outrage in America.

The author is a student at Wake Forest University. He wrote an Op-Ed in New York Times. It is called, quote, "We do not cry for lions."

He writes, quote, "In my village in Zimbabwe surrounded by wild life conservation areas, no lion has ever been loved or granted an affectionate

nickname. They are objects of terror." Quote, "The American tendency to romanticize animals have been given actual names and to jump on to a hash

tag train has turned an ordinary situation into what seems to my Zimbabwe and I an absurdist circus."

SCHACHER: See, this pisses me off, because I get his perspective, but you cannot -- it does not excuse what Walter Palmer did. I get that he

could be terrified of the lion, and therefore if they killed the lion to protect their community or their children or their livestock, that is one

thing.

But, it does not excuse pompous A-hole Walter Palmer to come here, pay $55,000 to kill the lion, decapitate the lion just so he can have a trophy

on his mantle. It is apples and oranges.

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

BARNETT: I do not think I agree in that as apples and oranges. This man has a very valid point. I know that you understand his point, but to

take it even further, he is not just saying, "Oh, we are scared of lions." These lions have killed his people.

SCHACHER: Yes.

BARNETT: And, then they are --

SCHACHER: I am not worried about him.

BARNETT: -- then they look at us and we are more mad than they are. They are like, "Why are not you concerned about the people in our village?"

SCHACHER: I get that.

BARNETT: "Why are not you concerned about the lives that are lost on top of being concerned about Cecil and whatever other wild animals?

COOPER: Although, I would point out the conservation areas, which she is talking about actually bring a tremendous amount of money into his

village, probably and to the local community.

But, the flip side of that is also these hunters, the $50,000 these hunters are paying, a lot of that often does goes to conservation efforts.

And, the country like Zimbabwe, the government, itself, is not funding necessarily a lot of conservation --

BLOOM: A lot of it goes to the corrupt governments too.

SCHACHER: Yes.

BLOOM: I would say that this gentleman is entitled to his opinion, but I have been recently to Zimbabwe, Namibia and South Africa. And there

are many local people who fight passionately for the animals, especially the animals in their national parks, which is Anderson said, brings in

tourist dollars. But, it is also a source of great national pride. And, I think this writer would cry for the lions if they go extinct, which is the

direction we are going.

SCHACHER: Right.

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

BARNETT: And, that -- he brought up that point as well. How are we to tell him what animals that they can kill in his native country and we go

around killing mountain lions to the point of extinction here, because they are trolling our highways and they are killing our people. He has a point.

Why cry over one thing, when you are not crying over the next?

SCHACHER: Why cannot you cry about multiple things?

BARNETT: Because it would outrage -- if people are going to be outraged about multiple things then they should say that, but that is not

what people are saying. They are saying, "Oh, my God! Cecil, when half of these people are so mad about Cecil, eat meat."

SCHACHER: I do not.

BLOOM: I do not.

SCHACHER: I do not.

BARNETT: They do not care about the cows and the chickens and all those other things. They are only mad about the lion because it is a hash

tag.

SCHACHER: Not me girl. Not me.

PINSKY: I want to bring in Corey Knowlton. He is a Big Game Hunter himself. Also, a self-described conservationist. Corey, tell us about

conservation versus preservation and how, what we are talking about here is one or either.

COREY KNOWLTON, BIG GAME HUNTER (via Skype): There is a big difference between preservation and conservation. Conservation, you are

talking about keeping the entire species going. When you are talking about preservation, a lot of times, that is an individual animal. So, none of us

-- ( INAUDIBLE)

PINSKY: Oh, Skype is so awful. We cannot hear him unfortunately. Lisa?

BLOOM: Let me just say that nobody should ever apologize for having compassion for animals. And, that is because most of us have connected

with an animal, whether it is a dog or a cat. It is a beloved animal. And, the animal in the wild is no different.

It wants to escape suffering and pain just like we do, just like our beloved dog or cat does. And, so, I do not think it is right to set us up

with, you know, we do not care about this or that.

SCHACHER: Right.

BLOOM: Having compassion for animals is a beautiful thing, and I hope nobody ever apologizes.

SCHACHER: Thank you, Lisa. Thank you

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

PINSKY: I do not know that anyone has to apologize for that. But, there is a component to this, where this author has a point, which is our

reaction to this has become so emotional. It is not rational anymore. Vanessa, you keep trying to bring us back to where human lives matter.

BARNETT: Right.

PINSKY: More than our feelings about animal life.

BARNETT: Right. It should be balance. Be compassionate, I love animals too. I have had several animals. I am just looking for a little

balance here.

PINSKY: Yes, ma`am.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Well, I also agree. I do love animals, but I was recently on a plane ride with a doctor from Zimbabwe.

And, he was asking me, if an animal was shot, which multiple of them are, in America.

Would we care as much, because we have millions of Americans, young Americans being hunted every day? Such as police brutality and things like

that. And, those issues I think that we do not care as much, because it is not a cute animal or a loving animal, that we may connect with.

[21:45:00] PINSKY: This was Vanessa`s point. Thank you for that. It is not that we do not care. We do. It is what we have been talking

about endlessly on this program.

SCHACHER: Right.

PINSKY: We care a lot. And part of -- it is a whole other topic we will get into. I am sure, later or probably next week, which is the idea

that millions of people are at risk at the hands of police.

No. Millions of people are not harmed by police, but that is the perception. And, that perception needs to be changed to. We are going to

have to leave this right here.

Next up, controversial picture of Bobbi Kristina Brown snapped at her death. We will talk about who published it and we are back after this.

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PINSKY: Time for our "Click Fix," where my guests tell me what is trending on their Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram feeds. Sam, you are

first.

SCHACHER: OK. So, all over my Facebook feeds, I saw this very disturbing photo, and it is a photo of Bobbi Kristina in her deathbed.

And, this was actually the cover of National Enquirer Magazine. And, it boasted, quote, "Whitney`s Daughter The Last Photo." Now, we are obviously

not going to show that photo. OK? Which is reportedly of a comatose Bobbi Kristina. twitter feeds.

[21:50:00] But the article does say, quote, "In a blockbuster world, exclusive on newsstands now, the National Enquirer has the last photograph

of Bobbi Kristina Brown taken just before she died on July 26th." It also says that they have, quote, "More chilling images inside."

And, now, additionally, there are reports that there is also going to be a photo that was purchased by a media outlet for six figures of Bobbi

Kristina in her casket. And, it is just absolutely disgusting. And, now, that the family is playing the game, who sold the photo?

PINSKY: Maybe, that is what the Aunt Leolah was talking about. I do not know. Anyway, Vanessa --

BARNETT: We cannot get mad at the people that bought it, actually. But --

PINSKY: What do you got, Vanessa?

BARNETT: This is --

PINSKY: By the way, get mad at us, the consumers. They would not buy it if people would not consume it.

BARNETT: True. True. This one is the developing story on Twitter. A lot of things are going on. But, it was a 19-year-old man from Seneca,

South Carolina, Zachary Hammond. I do not know if you heard this name yet, but he was fatally shot by a police officer.

He was in a car with a female passenger. They were there to sell -- the woman was there to sell weed, and the buyer was an undercover cop. The

uninformed backup cop shot Zachary twice because police say Hammond drove the car at the cop, who feared his life. He was shot twice. Two bullets

killed upper torso area, and then the family says the shots actually came from behind him.

SCHACHER: Yikes.

BARNETT: Which contradicts the police cam.

PINSKY: Again --

BARNETT: We have heard this story again.

PINSKY: Cannabis, really? All over --

BARNETT: All over marijuana. And, here is the thing that has kind of been trending. The all lives matter mob has been really silent. They have

not said anything. And, so, the white kids cause has been taken up by black Twitter.

PINSKY: Yes.

BARNETT: So, we have a couple tweets, "Where are all the #alllivesmatter, people, when it comes to Zachary Hammond?" He will not be

labeled a thug, but that does not mean police are not grossly out of line. Stop killing us".

SCHACHER: Yes.

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PINSKY: And, again, weed, really? People in prison for life. Weed killed everybody. Anderson, I want to thank you for A. For playing along

with --

COOPER: No. It is my pleasure to be here.

PINSKY: -- And for being a part of the "Click Fix."

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

COOPER: Yes. You were talking about weed, so this is actually a story about a skunk. And, you will understand the connection.

(LAUGHING)

SCHACHER: He smells so good.

COOPER: It is actually, you know, people were talking about police officers. This shows you the variety of things police officers have to

deal with. This is -- this is a skunk with a yogurt container trapped on its face.

SCHACHER: Oh.

SCHACHER: Sam is going to lose it.

COOPER: And this police officer -- Rochester, Michigan Police Officer Merlin Taylor, at great risk to himself being, you know, sprayed by a

skunk, rescued this skunk and got the yogurt container off.

SCHACHER: Yey! Yey!

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

PINSKY: Anybody ever been slimed by a skunk? It is bad.

COOPER: It is bad.

PINSKY: It is terrible. It is not just a little spray and bad smell.

SCHACHER: It sticks on you. I got sprayed by a skunk and like all week at school, people were like, "It smells like skunk." And, I am like -

-

(LAUGHING)

PINSKY: All right. Next up, a home invader and a little boy -- multiple home invaders and a little boy and a 911 call. We will play all

that for you after this.

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[21:57:28] PINSKY: Time now for my "Click Fix." It is from Facebook and Twitter. A chilling 911 call made by a 12-year-old boy alone in his

home at the time. Here is just part of it. Take a listen.

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UNIDENTIFIED 12-YEAR-OLD BOY: I think they might be inside.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE 911 DISPATCHER: Where are you at?

UNIDENTIFIED 12-YEAR-OLD BOY: I am in the closet.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE 911 DISPATCHER: And, you have never seen these men before?

UNIDENTIFIED 12-YEAR-OLD BOY: No. No.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE 911 DISPATCHER: Do you see any vehicles out front?

UNIDENTIFIED 12-YEAR-OLD BOY: Yes. A pickup truck. Please send help.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE 911 DISPATCHER: We have officers on the way. You talking to me is not delaying the officers. Do you see any weapons in

their hands?

UNIDENTIFIED 12-YEAR-OLD BOY: I do not know.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE 911 DISPATCHER: Did you hear forced-entry, like they broke a door?

UNIDENTIFIED 12-YEAR-OLD BOY: Yes. Yes, I did. I think they are real near me.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE 911 DISPATCHER: And, you hear two of them in the room with you?

UNIDENTIFIED 12-YEAR-OLD BOY: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE 911 DISPATCHER: Does your closet door have a lock on it where you can lock yourself in if need be?

UNIDENTIFIED 12-YEAR-OLD BOY: No. No. No. No. No. No.

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UNIDENTIFIED 12-YEAR-OLD BOY: Please do not hurt me (To the men).

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE 911 DISPATCHER: Did they open the door?

UNIDENTIFIED 12-YEAR-OLD BOY: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE 911 DISPATCHER: Did they open the door and saw you?

UNIDENTIFIED 12-YEAR-OLD BOY: Yes. Help me.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE 911 DISPATCHER: OK.

UNIDENTIFIED 12-YEAR-OLD BOY: What do I do? What do I do? What do I do?

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SCHACHER: Oh, my gosh.

BARNETT: Oh, my God.

PINSKY: Yes. At the end of the 13-minute call, the police came in, got these two alleged burglars. By the way, the police say they employed a

common tactic of knocking before breaking in, to see if the home was empty. I do not understand why. But, anyway, it turned out OK. As far as we

know, the child was fine. The guys were apprehended, but it is chilling, is not it?

SCHACHER: It is frightening. I think it would be every kid`s worst nightmare. Absolute worst nightmare.

PINSKY: Anderson, I want to thank you for being here again.

COOPER: My pleasure.

PINSKY: And, before we went -- while we were on break, I asked you about -- you moderated a presidential debate before --

COOPER: Yes.

PINSKY: What do you think is going to happen tomorrow?

COOPER: You know, I think it is going to be fascinating. There is no way to tell, there are a lot of questions. You know, how are the other

candidates going to deal with Donald Trump. What is Donald Trump -- is he going to attack the other candidates or by doing that, he triggers -- they

get automatic time to respond, so -- I do not think there is going to be much attacking of each other, but who knows.

PINSKY: And, if he keeps going, you may yet be moderating a debate?

COOPER: I should be so lucky.

(LAUGHING)

PINSKY: That will be interesting. A reminder that we are on Snap Chat. Please join us there. It is DrDrewHLN. Please DVR us as well, and

you can watch us anytime. I want to thank you all for watching. And, most importantly I want to thank, the great Anderson Cooper from AC 360 for

joining us tonight. You been a really good sport. Thank you for joining us. Thank you, panel. Thank you, audience. We will see you next time.

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