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DR. DREW

Teachers Gone Wild; Virginity for Sale; Best and Worst of 2014

Aired December 30, 2014 - 21:00:00   ET

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DR. DREW PINSKY, HLN HOST OF "DR. DREW ON CALL" SHOW (voice-over): Tonight, teachers gone wild, lap dancing and spanking their way through

lesson plans. Plus virginity for sale to the highest bidder and the Scroguard. The best and worst of 2014. Let`s get started.

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PINKSY: Welcome everybody. My co-host, as she has been most of 2014, Samantha Schacher. Happy New Year. Happy holidays everybody. It`s been a

good year, right?

SAMANTHA SCHACHER, HLN CO-HOST OF "DR. DREW ON CALL": It`s been a great year. I`m so honored to be able to be on this show and even one of my

highlights was able to fill in for you.

PINKSY: Oh, we`re getting start gushing here for now, you`re going to cry.

SCHACHER: I`m not going to cry. You want me to bring up your butt selfie again Dr. Drew?

PINKSY: No. I don`t like .

SCHACHER: That`s another highlight of mine.

PINSKY: I was going to gush on you too for good you`ve done a great job. So, we`re taking a look at all the stories that lit up social media 2014.

The house of filth was one of our most Twitter best stories of the year. Police say six children including a baby were living in a bug-infested home

with animal waste on the floor. Take a look at this.

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PINSKY: Police conducting a welfare check on this home say the six children in it, including a 2-year-old were covered with insect bites and

lice.

Police report that dogs and swine were found all over the house. One pig living inside. Officers say the floors saturated with urine and the dead

cockroaches floated in a bathtub. This man and woman have been charged with six counts of child neglect.

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PINSKY: So Sam you remember that one, right?

SCHACHER: I do.

PINSKY: Whoever have been in this toil ...

SCHACHER: Yeah.

PINSKY: And we had a lot of grant to cover about it. Take a look.

SCHACHER: Oh, Dr. Drew there`s more. Brace yourself so there were two large pigs and a small pig living underneath the house outside. There`s an

additional pig, a fourth pig inside, three dogs, a bedroom full of snakes, as you said, there was animal feces all over the house and then the floors

were saturated in urine.

PINSKY: And Vanessa, I see disbelief on your face.

VANESSA BARNETT, HIPHOLLYWOOD.COM: I just -- I cannot believe this happened. And this isn`t the first time we`ve heard about a horrible story

like this, but I`m still so blown away that people can treat their own flesh and blood like this. That it continued for so long, like all of the

kids had multiple bites.

PINSKY: Adrianna, do you agree?

ADRIANNA COSTA, ENTERTAINMENT JOURNALIST & HOST: How about the fact that they were living in this was well, I believe?

PINSKY: Yeah, yeah.

COSTA: I mean that they and this is not a matter of the way you choose to live whether you`re OCD clean. I mean, these people were living in

squalor. Like you said, Vanessa, it is pure abuse.

They do not deserve custody of these kids. I`m glad they were taken away. And end of story, period. They need to not be given back to these unfit

parents.

I worry when there`s a fly in my house that he doesn`t land or that it doesn`t land on my kid`s head. I mean this is ridiculous. They don`t have

the protective gene, these parents.

PINSKY: Loni?

LONI COOMBS, ATTORNEY: Well, let`s put this in context. I mean, this is a very gross situation, we all hate seeing those videotapes. But these

children were not injured in any way. The police report said they didn`t have -- I know, Vanessa, I know you`re flipping out, but they were not

physically abused. They were not sexually abused as far as we know.

So, it`s a hygiene thing. And clearly these parents need to learn how to be able to keep with situation -- hold on Vanessa. But I`m talking about

the spectrum of when you say it`s an attempted murder.

PINSKY: But Loni.

COOMBS: I mean there`s other cases that are much more serious than that.

PINSKY: You`re right and think about how we`ve lowered the bar for parenting. At least they weren`t sexually and physically abusing their

kids.

COOMBS: That`s right.

PINSKY: Hold on you guys, hold on your thoughts. I want to get and talk to somebody who was there on the scene.

On the phone, I`ve got the Chief Jeff Bowers. He is with the Wellford Police Department. His officers made the wellness check at the home.

Chief Bowers, thank you for joining us.

We want to hear the details in this case so we can kind of make sense of the behavior of these so-called parents. What did the home look like?

What did your officers find?

JEFF BOWERS, CHIEF OF POLICE, WELLFORD POLICE DEPT. (via telephone): That the ambulance, it was as you said, roach-infested, fleas in it, the pig was

inside, as well as some dogs, there was animal fecal matter in the floor.

PINSKY: And you saw the female, the mother, so-called, speak in court today. What was your impression?

BOWERS: Actually, that was on Monday. She was -- we had a probable cause hearing on Monday and she was in -- she was of course being very remorseful

and saying that she was trying to do better and she was moving out of that home and trying to get a better home for the children. We didn`t find any

drugs in the home or anything of that nature during our search.

PINSKY: Vanessa, you wanted to ask a question and then, Sam.

BARNETT: Yeah, I also read that this wasn`t the first visit to the home, there had been multiple visits. They had been cited for a goat and some

other things.

My question is why wasn`t there anything done earlier, because I can`t imagine that this house looked any differently than it did this time

around?

BOWERS: During those things, it was a code enforcement issue on the animal ordinance that we have. But we did not make entry inside the home. We

were just talking with him about the animals that were outside the home, which are the goats and the pigs and stuff of that nature. It was a

violation of the animal control ordinance.

PINSKY: OK. Chief, thank you so much for helping us try to get our head around this.

We were going to chat amongst ourselves here in a second.

Loni, you were shaking your head when he said the animal check.

COOMBS: Yes, it`s hard for me to imagine they went more concerned about the chickens and the goat and not the six children that were probably there

and had these bites all over their heads. Thank heavens, you know, the Bible says they were going to, someone said, hey, look, here are some

children who have lice, who have fleas, who had bites from head to toe, and are starving every time we feed them food, they ate three or four plates,

and actually called the police.

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PINSKY: And then it was time to bring in our Behavior Bureau. Take a look.

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LEEANN TWEEDEN. SOCIAL COMMENTATOR: You have to do better. And, I know you probably asked me this because I am a mother of an 11-month-old and I

just can`t even imagine. I can`t imagine living in that filth myself. Look, I`m not the tidiest person in the world, but I am certainly not

living in a house with feces and tepid water in a bathtub that`s -- with bugs dead floating in it and cockroaches everywhere. I just can`t even

imagine that she could stand for that.

PINSKY: Right.

TWEEDEN: Now, when I have a problem with is that they sent people to the house. Sure, OK. I get it. They are looking at a goat infraction, right?

OK, they have some -- probably animals that they are not checking on. But, do those welfare officers, are they just like "Not my job to maybe ask if

they have children to think maybe this is kind of a messy place to live? Maybe we can just check the inside of your house and see that you have a

pig living inside." That is probably not right either. When you see the floors covered in feces. I mean, we have to do right by these kids. You

have a bath tub that they can`t even use. Do these kids even get washed at all?

PINSKY: Sam.

SCHACHER: I do not think they did, Leeann. It is so sad. But, Dr. Drew, again, regardless, these are unfit parents.

TWEEDEN: Yes.

SCHACHER: And it really pisses me off. There are so many individuals out there who are longing to be parents, but they cannot because they are

infertile. They are having trouble conceiving and then they are popping out babies left and right.

PINSKY: Well, yes. Too many kids. Too many kids.

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PINSKY: And, next you will actually hear from that father of those six children. He will tell us his side of the story. Sam, you remember that?

SCHACHER: I do.

PINSKY: When we called .

SCHACHER: It`s an interesting phone call.

PINSKY: He was interesting. So all right, you guys will have that for just a second and later teacher is behaving badly. We have the viral

videos. We`re back after this.

YASMIN VOSSOUGHIAN, HLN CORRESPONDENT: I`m Yasmin Vossoughian and with the Daily Share at this hour. Can you guess which celebrity had the most liked

picture on Instagram in 2014? It was none other than the queen of Instagram herself, Mrs. Kim Kardashian. Not the picture of (inaudible)

scene, it`s this shot of Kim kissing new husband Kanye West at their wedding ceremony in May. It has more than 2.4 million likes and not only

was the most liked Instagram pic of the year. It was also the most liked post ever on Instagram since its launch four years ago.

In case you are wondering this selfie posted by Justin Bieber with former girlfriend Selena Gomez was second with more than 1.9 million likes and

number three Ariana Grande kissing Miley Cirus at the MTV Video Music Awards.

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PINSKY: Six children found living in a house of filth. These two adults have been charged with child neglect. Police were lead to this home when

school staffers noticed bug bites all over the children.

Starvation was suspected as the children devoured up to three plates of food in one sitting. Police say an overwhelming odor of sewage permeated

the property. And the home was infested with cockroaches, lice and animal feces.

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PINSKY: I`m back with Sam and we`re talking a look at our most memorable and our most -- not just memorable but things that are Tweeted about and

most talked about on the social media this year. The father of that story, Jarrod Wiggins, was arrested and charged with child endangerment. Just

days out of jail, he called into this program to try to clear his name but my panel was not going to let him off the hook so easily. Have a look at

this.

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KARAMO BROWN, #OWNSHOW: This man and his fiancee are despicable. I hope that they are thrown in jail and that they are used as an example for other

parents to know that you cannot treat children like this

PINSKY: All right. All right.

BROWN: . because if you do, you are going to be .

PINSKY: Well, he is facing the news here. I will go around quickly around the horn here.

Sam, I know how you feel.

Yasmin, what do you say?

VOSSOUGHIAN: Look, I mean, whether or not these people were poverty- stricken or not, there is -- this is no way to treat your children. I mean, they were living in filth, there was bugs, mosquitoes, if, in fact,

these children -- he had nothing else to offer them, he should have gone to a friend`s house. He should have asked for help from family members.

PINSKY: Loni, isn`t it possible ...

VOSSOUGHIN: There is no excuse for the way that they treated these kids.

PINSKY: OK. Fair enough. Loni, isn`t it possible this is sort of an excessive enthusiasm on the part of law enforcement? Isn`t it possible as

an explanation here?

LONI COOMBS, FORMER PROSECUTOR: Yes, I think cooler minds need to prevail here, Dr. Drew. I`m so glad that you`re having this father on. And I`ll

tell you why. In the police report itself, there are three things that made me think we need to step back and really get the full facts. One, the

police officer said there were no visible injuries to any of the six children, that means no prior physical abuse, no violence on them. Second

of all, neither parent had any appearance of drug or alcohol abuse going on during this situation. And third of all, the police had been there on

several occasions in the past to talk about the animal violations and they never saw any red flags at that time about the condition of the children.

So, while at the time that the police officer showed up at this time, there were clearly things going on that were not right. We need to step back and

find out what was really going on here before we judge them so harshly.

PINSKY: Sam, I`ve got Jarrod Wiggins on the phone. But let`s keep going. Samantha, what do you say?

SCHACHER: OK, here is the thing. And, I hear you, Loni, but the fact that these children are living in animal feces, that`s unhealthy. The fact that

they are very thin and they were starving at this camp, the fact that there was one bathtub .

PINSKY: Maybe. Maybe, Samantha, maybe.

SCHACHER: Maybe. OK, let me finish. OK, I agree maybe and I`m willing to say that. But the fact that there was this one sole bathtub/shower that

was filled with cockroaches, how are they supposed to get clean? And finally, I want to respond to what you said, Yasmin, about the fact that

you know, whether or not they were poverty-stricken. I grew up with a number of friends that were really poor and you could eat off the floors of

their homes. I don`t think somebody`s socioeconomic status should equate to their level of cleanliness.

PINSKY: Yasmin?

VOSSOUGHIAN: I don`t think that`s an excuse. And I think from what I was reading before about what the father has been saying is that -- that is his

excuse, he was making $12 an hour and that he didn`t have the means to provide for his children and that`s just not appropriate. Ask for help.

You have six children.

PINSKY: Or the landlord may be sort of uncooperative. So, I`ve invited Jarrod Wiggins to join us. He wanted a chance to clear his name. He faces

six charges of child neglect. He was released from jail less than a week ago.

So Jarrod, first of all, thank you for joining us.

Help us -- you heard what everyone was saying on the panels here. Help people make sense of what happened to your family?

JARROD WIGGINS, ARRESTED FOR CHILD NEGLECT (via telephone): Well, first off, I love my children very, very dearly. I would never keep them in a

situation like this.

And as for the idea of animal feces being all over the place, they have seen one little tiny pile of poop on the floor that happened probably as

the sheriffs were coming into the house. I had a puppy that belonged to my son that we were potty-training. The house was not covered in feces.

There was not feces everywhere.

My children were not starving. If you can ask anybody and I`m sure DSS can prove it right now that my kids have an appetite that you wouldn`t believe.

Every night that we sit down for dinner, every night, they will eat twice and sometimes even three times as much as I do and I`m a grown man.

I took my kids out to Florida. We were living down there and my wife was a mess. She was hooked on drugs and everything else. And I took my kids out

of that -- out of that mess and moved up here to South Carolina, because I couldn`t find work in Florida. I did all of this for my kids.

I got up here, and got a job and got working, trying to take care of them and I was making $12 an hour. I was going to work. I was working hard

every day.

And it just -- it -- it`s ridiculous. You guys are just -- you`re assuming that you know everything that`s going on. And it`s simply not true.

I lived in a house where a landlord did not want to fix anything. The septic tank was packed up that my whole yard was a lake. The house was

covered in millipedes and bugs.

I bombed the house, 15 bombs in my house and it seemed to have cowered these bugs. They came out of everywhere.

And you -- everybody says that I`m living with pigs and farm animals and everything. I bought a baby pot belly pig. We had a farm, right, and I

bought a baby pot belly pig for my 3-year-old daughter. It`s a little tiny pig.

I`m sure you can get many people, with all I`m saying, they own pot-belly pigs for pets.

PINSKY: Jarrod, I`m going to hold you, Jarrod. I think my panelists have some questions for you.

Karamo, go ahead

BROWN: Hey, Jarrod, I can hear that you were overwhelmed and I empathize with that. But I want to know from you, was there any suitable relatives

that you could have possibly given the children to while you fix your circumstances? Because you`re talking about all these things that is not -

- I`m sorry, as a father, this is not an excuse for me.

WIGGINS: I have no relatives. I have one brother that`s up here. He`s got a very small home there and I had no relatives.

I went to go try to get help and to get any kind of housing assistance. It takes up to two years to get any kind of housing assistance.

This problem in my house didn`t last -- it didn`t last for that long. It was -- it was a couple weeks of madness.

And, yes, trust me, as a father, I would have did anything to get my kids out of that situation.

PINSKY: Well, that`s what he says and Sam, is there any update on the story?

SCHACHER: There is. So, since we first aired the story several months ago Dr. Drew, Jarrod`s six children have yet to be returned to the home.

PINSKY: Oh.

SCHACHER: So, what does that tell you?

PINSKY: That he couldn`t get his act together.

SCHACHER: OK. And, so that means not .

PINSKY: It`s so sad.

SCHACHER: I know, it`s really sad and we know that there is, you know, that there is a mother that is -- the mother of two of the children, we

know that the girlfriends, the 22-year old girlfriend living with them, so it`s also a complicated living situation too.

PINSKY: Oh, it just sounds like a terrible story of poverty.

SCHACHER: Right.

PINSKY: So it sounds like .

SCHACHER: So you don`t think that there`s any sort of drug addiction even though that they find drugs?

PINSKY: The mom was and I don`t know about the girlfriend. They didn`t seem like and they didn`t sell like a drug. That`s what (inaudible)

telling you in acts of using ...

SCHACHER: What about hoarding with the animals?

PINSKY: It`s hard to make that case with all these. I mean it really sound like somebody`s life was out of -- unmanageable and out of control.

And you could, you know, we don`t know why.

SCHACHER: Right.

PINSKY: That`s the bottom line.

SCHACHER: Right.

PINSKY: We don`t know why and that part of it is he had no resources and that`s really sad.

SCHACHER: Sad.

PINSKY: It is sad. It is sad. Next up. Virginity on sale to the highest bidder. A medical student is selling sex calls. She`s selling sex, calls

on our show to confront her critics. And, later we`re doing the best and the worst, the Scroguard. It got so much reaction the first time. We`re

going to show it to you again. We`re back after this.

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ELIZABETH RAIN, 27-YEAR-OLD MED STUDENT SELLING HER VIRGINITY: A warm welcome to my website. In case you have not yet heard what precisely this

is about, I am essentially stunning, highly-educated and charismatic American woman who has placed a 12-hour date with me atop the auction

block. And, did I mention I am a virgin? Yes, that is right.

I have made the bold but not thoughtless decision to auction off my virginity. My identity will be kept a secret from all but the final

bidder. Today, we updated the placing a bid page on my website. If you haven`t yet had a chance to peek at it, we have a handful of bids in the

$100,000 to $150,000 range.

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PINSKY: I`m just shaking my head. I`m back with Sam. Elizabeth Raine is a 27-year old alleged medical student who put her virginity up for sale on

the internet. What you just heard was a reenactment of her online ad. I spoke to Elizabeth, Sam and what I remember is -- I spoke to her and I

asked her why. Take a look.

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RAINE: Well, I happened to stumble across an article about Natalie Dillen who was an American woman who did this several years back. And, I have

noticed that she was offered an enormous amount of money for her virginity.

PINSKY: Do you need the money? Are you desperate for money? Do you have to pay for med school this way?

RAINE: No, I am not at all desperate for money, but it is something that I am actually -- that does not -- the whole concept does not offend me. I

don`t attach a particularly high value to my virginity, and I also do not morally object to women choosing to sell sex.

PINSKY: Hold on a second. Anahita is actually laughing out loud. Go ahead Anahita.

ANAHITA SEDAGHATFAR, LAWYER: I just can`t -- I mean, Dr. Drew, why don`t you show your face, Elizabeth? You call yourself a feminist. You think

this is empowering, but you don`t need the money. Why are you doing this? And, the woman you just referenced earlier, do you know whether or not she

ever got the money? Because as far as I understand, that never went through.

RAINE: No, it didn`t ever go through. And there was a lot of publicity around her auction. And, so it is really hard -- I think she found a lot

of other opportunities from that.

SEDAGHATFAR: So, why are you covering your face?

RAINE: For one reason or another. There is no reason why it wouldn`t work for me. And this has been a personal choice. You do not have to agree

with it, but it is my choice.

SEDAGHATFAR: But, why are you covering your face?

ALFONZO RACHEL: Can I just ask? I read in your blog.

SEDAGHATFAR: I do not understand, what is the problem with her covering her face? What is the big deal? I do not understand. This is a financial

transaction. There are two consenting individuals, Anahita. I think you are being a bit of a bully right now.

RAINE: I mean, I think it`s honestly a very smart move for me because there is a lot of.

PINSKY: One at a time.

RAINE: . we live in a society where people harshly judge women for sexual choices they make.

PINSKY: Alfonzo, go ahead.

RAINE: I think they are unfair but they are real and so that is what I am trying to avoid.

PINSKY: Alfonzo.

RACHEL: I had read your statement, and it says that you do not really place any value or any meaning on your virginity. If you cannot do that,

then I do not understand how you could place a price tag on it. You are placing a price tag on the (inaudible) which means.

RAINE: Well, it`s not me who`s placing the price. I mean, that is something that people sort of missed is I am able to sell it because I

don`t place that very high value on it. If I valued it very highly, I could not sell it and live with myself.

RACHEL: But you have got to acknowledge that it`s.

RAINE: It`s not me attaching that value to it. It`s somebody else attaching that value.

RACHEL: But that virginity is also attached to you also which sounds like somewhere in that line you have got to place a value on yourself somewhere,

too. And I also read that you said that you are looking for something more concrete. I don`t know how money is more concrete than a ring.

RAINE: Well, honestly, I mean, I -- I do not really see a ring as being very concrete.

RACHEL: Money don`t last either.

SCHACHER: Elizabeth.

RAINE: And I also don`t think this should preclude a ring. I don`t see why -- I mean, if a man is marrying me because I am a virgin, then I think

I am in a marriage that is in trouble.

RACHEL: Well he can`t marry you because of your character because this action don`t really sell much.

PINSKY: Hold on, guys, hold on guys. Sam and I got to talk to her.

SCHACHER: Yeah, OK, Elizabeth, here is my thing. Is that you`re preaching this as woman empowerment, and it`s a very slippery slope especially

because there is such an epidemic with sex slavery where there is a huge number on women`s virginity, child virginity, and you are inadvertently

promoting that.

RAINE: No, no, no.

SCHACHER: Yes, you are. Yes, you are.

RAINE: I don`t think I am.

SEDAGHATFAR: No, she is not. No, she is not.

PINSKY: Let`s hear her response. Let`s hear Elizabeth. Go ahead, Elizabeth. You respond.

RAINE: Oh I was going to say, I don`t think I am promoting that. I think it`s something that already exists that I am using to my own advantage.

SCHACHER: But you`re -- in my opinion -- OK, we can agree to disagree. We can agree to disagree.

SEDAGHATFAR: No, I mean, actually if we just criminalize prostitution, we wouldn`t have sex slavery.

PINSKY: All right. Let me just talk to her for a second. Elizabeth, Elizabeth you weren`t -- Elizabeth.

RAINE: I do not think all women are going to find this empowering. But for me -- and I think, you know, a lot of people are -- a lot of women are

exploited in the sex industry. But I find this empowering because it is a free choice.

PINSKY: All right, Elizabeth -- Elizabeth.

RAINE: And we just wanted -- it turned out to be right for me.

PINSKY: What year are you in in your medical school? What year are you?

RAINE: I`d rather not say if that is OK.

PINSKY: Are you in your clinical rotations yet?

RAINE: I`d really rather not say.

SEDAGHATFAR: She doesn`t know what that is because she is probably not a medical student.

SCHACHER: Hey, now. Let`s not go there.

PINSKY: Hang on. Hang on. I`m going to say a word.

RAINE: You know what it is that you don`t want to say.

PINSKY: But here is the problem. But let me just tell you a personal story. I started doing this little show called "Love Line" during my

fourth year of medical school, and it was considered at the time like bizarre, and there was something wrong with me. And I was, I really had to

question -- I wondered if I was doing the right thing. I thought I was just educating people about HIV and AIDS.

And the community, the medical community, my teachers and the people that I was working with crushed me, came down on me hard. I can`t imagine you`re

not going to get a horrible reaction from the establishment in academic medicine. It`s going to be intense.

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PINSKY: All right. So I`m saying Sam that she`s not in medical class. No way. There`s no way.

SCHACHER: No, she even kind of rephrased that now she`s in medical training so maybe you`ve got to her but .

PINSKY: All right, we have an update. We have an update.

SCHACHER: We do -- you have an update.

PINSKY: I`ve done (inaudible).

SCHACHER: Yes, here it is. So just two weeks after that interview, he did end up canceling that online auction.

PINSKY: OK.

SCHACHER: So perhaps she`s still a virgin, maybe she just decided against it but her reason was back to that medical training she said she wants to

refocus on her medical training.

PINSKY: All right, fair enough. All right, that`s all I was asking.

SCHACHER: Like, you were pretty irked about the fact that she was acting like that she was already in med school but clearly, she wasn`t.

PINSKY: That drives me insane.

SCHACHER: Yeah.

PINSKY: It drives me insane.

SCHACHER: I saw the scene coming up for.

PINSKY: Yeah, it drives me that people sort of exploits just the fact that they intend to one day maybe think about doing pre-med.

SCHACHER: Yeah. No, the work that goes.

PINSKY: As opposed to -- I`m a med -- that makes me a medical student. You`re 10 years away from being a medical student.

SCHACHER: Right.

PINSKY: And it`s unfair to the people who have worked hard to get into medical school.

SCHACHER: I get it.

PINSKY: All right, next up. We`ve got two of the most talked about teachers. I`ll explain. And later, extreme funerals, some people want

their dead loved ones to look life-like in extraordinary settings. I`ll explain. We`re back after this.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A teacher gives her 15-year-old student a birthday present, allegedly a lap dance.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Was it a lap dance or was it just a happy birthday celebration? Can you talk to us about that?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No comment.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The details are sickening. Investigators say she rubbed her body on a student while his classmates watched.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: During this four-minute lap dance, he was aroused.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When you`re in the strip club, you don`t even get that kind of treatment. It`s hands off the strippers.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Get her out of there. She does not deserve to be a teacher anymore.

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PINSKY: Back with Sam. But thanks Vanessa for the update focused on the strip club. Lots of teachers behave badly this year like that one. A

Houston teacher performed a lap dance for a 15-year old student in front of the entire class, then we got another cover, right? There was this

teacher. Have a look at this one.

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PINSKY: That video was captured by a high school student`s cell phone. A teacher administers birthday spanks to a male student. He`s there lying

across her lap in the middle of a busy classroom. The educator described as a longtime teacher was reprimanded.

Janine (ph) is reprimand enough or does she even need to be reprimanded which is, funny games and -- you tell me.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I can`t even compare this teacher with the teacher last week. That teacher last week was a freak.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I agree.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: These are the ones who just comes to school on Halloweens dressed like a prostitute. That`s, you know, she had a lot of

enjoyment out of doing that lap dance. That was something sexualized.

To me this was something that was just -- something that the teacher thought was going to be funny. It was really in poor taste and really

inappropriate but I just don`t think that she meant anything sexual or offensive by that. I think she thought she was having fun. She`s been

there 20 years. The kids are laughing. Everybody`s joking and I just don`t see those two as any way comparable. I think that maybe speaking to,

a reminder was fine.

PINSKY: Mike, Mike hold on. Hold on. Before Mike, you say anything, I am fearful of what you might say. I want to get to Kirsten.

MIKE CATHERWOOD, CO-HOST "LOVELINE": Come on.

PINSKY: What are saying? I`m just saying.

KIRSTEN HAGLUND, FORMER MISS AMERICA: No. Well, you know, of course, if I had a child and she or he was in this classroom getting spanked, I feel

like, why aren`t you learning, why are you getting spanked for your birthday?

DANINE MANETTE, CRIMINAL INVESTIGATOR: Right.

HAGLUND: You know, when I first read the headline for the story I thought, "oh my Gosh, the kid is getting spanked in school?" But then I realized

that it was a birthday thing. You know, and a punishment should fit the crime. So to speak and not a crime.

PINSKY: So, you are cool with it?

HAGLUND: Perhaps a bit of personality.

PINSKY: So you`re cool with it? I agree with Kirsten. No, I`ll support you on that. Mike, what do you say now?

CATHERWOOD: I, look, I understand. In comparison to a teacher giving a kid a four-minute lap dance, which I`m still trying to wrap my head around.

I can`t even imagine how much better I would have liked school if my teachers gave me lap dances. But from a lady`s point of view, it doesn`t

seem that threatening. It seems kind of innocuous. She was just kind of - - but you got to understand. He`s a (inaudible) that guy, a teenage boy pressing his body into his female teacher. Believe me, it was sexualized

for him.

If that happened to me, she would get a hole poked right through her leg.

MANETTE: Isn`t she, like, 100 years old?

HAGLUND: Oh my gosh.

PINSKY: Hang on. But it`s a boundary problem.

Mike, listen, let`s bring a little "Loveline" in here, if you don`t mind. Are you prepared to talk about, you know, your perception of, you know,

what you were lucky enough to have been participating in when you were a young boy and realizing when a young child is exposed to some of this

stuff, it`s not good for them?

CATHERWOOD: Well, no it really isn`t. I mean I certainly was hypersexualized as a kid, far too young. And I don`t mean that as like a

joke, I mean from the kind of comments I say on the show. I really was exposed to sex probably far too young and it was something I thought I

wanted. And even things that aren`t necessarily sexual contact, when you`re dealing with a teenage boy, you have to understand you`re

essentially dealing with a testosterone-fueled like Cro-Magnon man who`s just a vehicle for a boner. That`s what a boy is at that age, he is just

constantly thinking about sex.

PINSKY: Right.

CATHERWOOD: So any type of inappropriate contact, which I do think teacher-student contact like that is, you know, tremendously inappropriate.

Any type of inappropriate contact is going to accelerate that kind of breakdown between intimacy and sexuality.

PINSKY: Right. And that`s right. The breakdown and body boundaries are being violated. Here again, big people have to take care of little people.

You have to really make issues of body boundaries so people understand those are meant to be respected. And kind of inappropriate teacher-student

contact may be going on for a long time, but it may be just now that we`re seeing it because everyone holds up a cell phone and gets a picture of it.

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PINSKY: All right Sam. Did the punishment fit the crime? What happened to that teacher?

SCHACHER: Well that teacher, she was given a written and a verbal reprimand. She was able to keep her job. Now, the lap dancing teacher .

PINSKY: Yeah.

SCHACHER: Totally different scenario. So she plead guilty to a felony charge of having an improper relationship with the student and she was sent

to a three-year probation.

PINSKY: Oh my goodness. So that one well turned out to be -- the smoking gun was there and it really was something.

SCHACHER: Absolutely. And we still have yet to do any positive teacher stories. My mom reminds me all the time.

PINSKY: All the teacher.

SCHACHER: Yes.

PINSKY: I`ll listen. I feel like, you know, you can`t say enough good about teachers. I mean, I really -- and to this day. I tear up to some of

the teachers my kids have had. I`m so appreciative.

SCHACHER: Right. Overworked, underpaid.

PINSKY: Yes, indeed. Now next up. A funeral trend that is fueling a ton of controversy, is this, how you want to remember a loved one? And later,

oh yes, the Scroguard will tell you, you might or perhaps you might not need this the next time you have a sexual encounter, might not -- all

right. Back after this.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In life, Marianne Burbank loved a cold beer and an occasional scotch.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She gets down. Fifty three, she`s not a normal 53.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, it`s only fitting that all of it be captured as part of her home going. Burbank`s daughters had a vision and presented it

to funeral directors at Charbonnet.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They said that, you know, they didn`t want a traditional religious type service.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Burbank is sitting at a table wearing saints colors, her fingernails are even painted black and gold. She`s got her Busch beer

and menthol cigarettes. It was a celebration of life just the way Burbank would have wanted it.

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PINSKY: The thing she enjoyed and the things that might have done her in. I`m back with Sam for -- look at our most memorable stories of the year.

Fifty-three year-old dead woman propped up in a funeral home with a beer and a cigarette in her hand, provoked a lot of reaction from my guests and

the viewers. Take a look.

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ERICA AMERICA, RADIO PERSONALITY: What`s bothering me is where is this going next? As technology moves forward, are we going to then taxidermy

our grandpa?

(CROSSTALK)

PINSKY: That`s what it was. That`s what that is.

AMERICA: That`s basically what this is. I feel like there`s one thing that needs to be serious and that is the passing of a loved one, and I

think this is a fad. I think it`s a little tactless and I hope that it moves on.

PINSKY: OK, got it. I mean, Vanessa, dignity, dignified, even opening a casket to me is a little bit like, I really want to do this. I`m just

saying. Now, we`re going to have somebody propped up?

(CROSSTALK)

VANESSA BARNETT: I`m so surprised because you hate to be the top police but now you`re being the action police, Dr. Drew.

PINSKY: No. No. They can do as they please, but I`m just saying, come on.

BARNETT: They can do it -- it might be tacky, it might be tacky but this is the way she lived so this is how they wanted to celebrate her life. And

some people now, they say, they don`t want to go to a funeral and cry and mourn and be sad. They want to celebrate the life. She went home to meet

her maker and they are want -- they wanna -- they look at them. They`re getting down.

PINSKY: I love that. I love the celebration.

BARNETT: They wanna have a good time and celebrate the way she lived. Yeah. It may be creepy. It maybe look weird to us but this is how they

celebrate her life.

PINSKY: To us -- Mike -- and God knows where this is going. I mean, this woman was into a little -- you know, a little beer, a little scotch.

MIKE CATHERWOOD: A little?

PINSKY: A -- Very into it evidently. Some vice -- I mean, we got to put out lines if somebody is into drugs, and put out lines of cocaine on the

table? I`m just saying, is that what we have to do here?

CATHERWOOD: Listen, she -- first off, she as an adult in this country is well within her rights to drink her Busch beer and smoke her menthols.

PINSKY: Of course. Of course.

CATHERWOOD: It`s a little different than putting out an illicit drug. Now you, Dr. Drew, are having a terrible reaction to this type of funeral

because you don`t like that. But this is about her. This was about celebrating her life. And if this is how her family wanted to celebrate

and they felt like it was appropriate for her and her way of life, then it`s awesome.

PINSKY: Let see. Let`s see. I`ve got some comments here. We`ve got a tape of loved ones talking about Marianne Burbank`s non-traditional

ceremony. Take a look.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When I walked in, I felt like I was in her house and I don`t hurt so much because it`s more of her and it`s like she`s not dead.

It`s not like a funeral. It`s like she`s just in the room with us.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think it`s amazing for him to capture someone`s actual life, their lifestyle, the way they lived. And I think it`s

something new and trending and I think it`s a good way to cross over.

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PINSKY: Nine hundred of you have been sharing your comments on our Dr. Drew HLN Facebook page. Sam, what are some of the examples?

SCHACHER: Yeah. OK. So, first of all, it looks like that the reaction...

PINSKY: Wait. Is that somebody else? We have another person -- maybe we have another -- it`s a trend.

SCHACHER: I -- hey, I`m kind of like rethinking the way I want to go out.

PINSKY: I`m thinking, I want to go out in my chair, Sam, because (inaudible) it`s so deeply.

(CROSSTALK)

SCHACHER: Why? I wouldn`t mind people celebrating me when I pass away. OK.

CATHERWOOD: I`ll celebrate you.

SCHACHER: OK. All right, likewise, Mike.

PINSKY: See where it`s going, Mike? Do you see where this is going? See how bad it can get?

SCHACHER: All right. So, the reaction was pretty much split down in the middle. OK? To this non-traditional funeral one particular comment summed

it up with, Evan wrote, quote, to each his own but that`s creepy as hell. And then one woman shared a personal story, she wrote, quote, my dad loved

popcorn so my mom popped some popcorn and put it in with his ashes.

CATHERWOOD: Awesome.

PINSKY: Yeah. That is awesome. I`m all for the celebration and I`m all for this being about the living, which -- Erica, you were sort of zeroing

in on. Erica, go ahead, I`m sorry.

AMERICA: Yeah. I have a feeling it`s more about what the family wants and maybe a little bit of denial at the person`s passing than necessarily what

the person themselves wanted. If they made it clear in their will or said to everybody, I want this party, I want to be propped up like I`m alive...

PINSKY: Oh my God another one. Here`s another one. Next he wears (inaudible).

AMERICA: It`s scary. It`s frightening. And you know what.

PINSKY: There`s some more. It`s breath taking.

SCHACHER: Your reaction is priceless here.

CATHERWOOD: It is completely different and it is a bit creepy.

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PINSKY: A bit creepy. I`m just old-fashioned. I get first at it. Do you have more Facebook posts?

SCHACHER: We do. We have a lot of Facebook posts Dr. Drew but I want to share two with you guys so Julie wrote in "I`ve already informed my family

to play KC and the Sunshine Band "Boogie Shoes" at my funeral.

PINSKY: OK. It looks fine. They have a music they want to play. They have sort of a quality to the event but to make somebody to a taxidermy

subject and make the little wax in and bizarrely pose.

SCHACHER: With the shades and the chardonnay, I`m knee up. OK. And then the other one from .

PINSKY: And you heard what Mike would do, you know, you want that. You want people desecrating your body.

SCHACHER: Excuse me.

PINSKY: Well, that`s Mike. It`s Mike and what`s this one. What is this guy?

SCHACHER: My dad would be there to protect. OK. So, Denise writes, quote "That`s how I want my funeral to be. I want to put the fun in it."

PINSKY: OK. I understand that. I understand that.

SCHACHER: It`s up to the individual.

PINSKY: Listen. Or that`s I live by that, with people you have the freedom to choose.

SCHACHER: How do want to go? Have you thought about it?

PINSKY: Don`t just -- yeah I just burn and ashes somewhere.

SCHACHER: Where? Ashes where?

PINSKY: Somewhere in the -- I don`t really care, somewhere that the family would like to do. That`s somewhere they -- it`s for the -- it`s really the

procedure for me is to help the family deal with the close. I think like that.

SCHACHER: Yeah.

PINSKY: So we probably should talk about it.

SCHACHER: You should.

PINSKY: You`re right. That`s right.

SCHACHER: OK.

PINSKY: All right. If you think the new funeral trend is bizarre, wait till you hear about the Scroguard. Yeah. We`ll go on there. We`re back

after this.

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(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Scroguard. Because protection is everything. Part of the skin of your genital area has a cover. But most are still exposed to

your lover. Not anymore. Now there`s Scroguard, the powerful new product that you can wear with any condom. The secret is the high quality premium

latex that is thick enough to cover your genital area but thin enough to feel like a second skin.

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PINSKY: Back with Sam. This, believe or not was one of the stories you shared the most from our Facebook page. It is the Scroguard. It`s

supposed to prevent skin to skin, well really it`s body fluid contact on the skin that`s left exposed from the condom during a sexual act. It stops

the transmission of STDs allegedly and it did not stop our panel from having a good time and a good laugh. Take a look.

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ALI NEJAD, HLN CORRESPONDENT: This is -- I have so much to say about this. First off, how about that guy`s voice that they`re using. It`s not a 390x

infomercial. They`re trying to make you feel like a bad-ass when you`re wearing a latex girdle. Are you kidding me?

They say it`s reusable and re-washable. What else do you put in that load of laundry? And did you see the size of the hole? Are you kidding me? I

thought it was a kuzi (ph). What, are you supposed to put a Pepsi through there?

PINSKY: Now, Vanessa, first of all, get your -- put your mouth back -- up again, your mouth was dropped a bit in this. Go ahead, what are you

thinking?

BARNETT: There`s nothing sexy about this. Nothing about the screams, let`s get it on. First of all, it`s a thong that is going up that man`s

butt.

ROBERTS: But there`s nothing sexy about herpes. There`s nothing sexy about herpes, so if you think the person you`re about to get with, if you

even think like there`s a millimeter of thought that this man might have it or this woman might have it, let`s just not sleep together. Let`s go get

some ...

(CROSSTALK)

ROBERTS: It`s happening. Let`s think about that.

(CROSSTALK)

BARNETT: I can guarantee you, I put money on it.

PINSKY: Sam? Sam, they can also take anti-viral medication.

SCHACHER: Yes.

PINSKY: They could take the HPV vaccine. They could -- you know, there are things to be done other than wearing some.

SCHACHER: It looks like partly, like something that a sumo wrestler would wear. And then like the mask.

PINSKY: Yeah, something -- it`s made out of rubber.

SCHACHER: And then like that mask that Hannibal Lector wears, but instead it goes on the penis area. I`m sorry. It`s scary. I like the idea of

added protection. I like the idea -- I think that if you`re in a long-term relationship and maybe somebody has genital warts you would use this,

because .

PINSKY: No, no.

SCHACHER: Because you love them and you wouldn`t care. But what do you mean? You would be more open to it. But if it was a fling, it is

atrocious, and I think it will scare people.

PINSKY: You get the vaccine.

SCHACHER: I`d blame Ebola.

PINSKY: Ali. I like it how you are thinking.

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PINSKY: All right. It`s a step towards what people always talk about the neoprene, you know, the bodysuit .

SCHACHER: Yes.

PINSKY: This is the first step in that direction.

SCHACHER: It`s bizarre though Dr. Drew. I mean, it`s supposed to prevent STDs but I think it`s preventing STDs because no one is going to sleep with

you if you wear that.

PINSKY: There you go. Maybe that`s part of the diabolical (inaudible) there or you said use it in a long-term relationship.

SCHACHER: Yeah because they .

PINSKY: I don`t think wise would (inaudible) stand for that and my point was if somebody has it, you`re going to stay together forever sharing who

cares.

SCHACHER: Right. And, you mentioned the anti-viral medication.

PINSKY: Yes.

SCHACHER: Why wouldn`t they use something like that, right?

PINSKY: Yes, they take HPV vaccine and just use a condom and be careful and all the stuff. I mean, I admire the idea of analogy that there may be

some fluids that get around and cause infection but the form of this solution, not so cool.

SCHACHER: And how does it really work, Dr. Drew? I mean, how does that -- I mean I`m not asking you to demonstrate although some of our viewers

might.

PINSKY: Well let me (inaudible) for the New Year celebration. I know I`m good. I know I`m going for Halloween next year. That`s .

SCHACHER: Oh, no.

PINSKY: But I`m just saying.

SCHACHER: OK.

PINSKY: So listen, we got a great year with -- our panelists did a great job this year.

SCHACHER: Yeah.

PINSKY: You did a great job this year.

SCHACHER: Thank you. You too.

PINSKY: We had a wonderful story. Our producers were amazing. It`s -- We want to thank you everyone who supported us, watched us. Everyone has been

a part of the show. We are grateful to have had you all through this year. Yes, indeed we are.

SCHACHER: Thank you.

PINSKY: You can of course DVR the show anytime as I was -- we want people at the end of the show then you can go ahead and watch this. I hope you`re

all having a great holiday season. It is a great time of the year and, you know, just we think we just appreciate you being there with us and we want

to say happy holidays.

SCHACHER: And, happy New Year.

PINSKY: Happy New Year. And, we will see you next time.

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