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Sex Predators Working in Theme Parks; Mideast Ceasefire Proposal on the Table; Deportation Flight Lands in Honduras; Honduran First Lady: Devastated Families Returning From U.S. Empty-Handed; Forty People Deported From to Honduras; Massacre Survivor Speaks Out: Texas Teen Saw Her Family Executed
Aired July 14, 2014 - 20:00 ET
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ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Good evening, everyone, thanks for joining us, there is breaking news tonight.
A ceasefire proposal in the clash between Israel and Hamas. We begin, though, with a report that you won't see anywhere else. It's where every child's dream comes true, where you're supposed to feel safe and kids can be kids. As parents you're going to want to pay close attention to our next story.
It's an investigation involving child sex predators in some of the most famous theme parks in this country. And as you're getting ready to pack the family van and head to central Florida's Disney World, Universal Studios or even SeaWorld, you'll want to see what we found in our six-month investigation.
We're talking about a pattern of theme park employees arrested in sex stings after work hours.
Here's CNN investigation correspondent Kyra Phillips.
KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN INVESTIGATIVE CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): They are people you would least expect, some are married with children.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I've been on Craigslist looking for a friend.
PHILLIPS: Others have been working with children for years.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I work around kids all the time at Disney.
PHILLIPS: This man even admits to having sex with an underage teen before getting caught.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We talked and kissed.
PHILLIPS: All of them employees at Florida's Walt Disney World. Known as the happiest place on earth. All of them arrested.
A CNN investigation found since 2006 at least 35 Disney employees have been arrested for sex crimes against children, trying to meet minors for sex or for possession of child porn. And it's not just Disney. Five employees were arrested from Universal
Orlando and two from SeaWorld.
So far 32 have been convicted, eight have pled not guilty and two have not entered a plea.
(On camera): To be clear, none of these cases involved children or teenagers visiting the parks, however, according to law enforcement, despite the most stringent background checks, child sexual predators are still being hired.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you think that it was wrong to come here to meet a 14-year-old?
PHILLIPS (voice-over): This is 40-year-old Allen Treaster, who police say advertised himself only as "Big Teddy bear for young chaser." He was a concierge at Disney's Animal Kingdom Lodge. Previously working the "Toy Story" ride. This is Treaster getting arrested after police say he showed up to meet what he thought was a 14-year-old boy, hoping, according to his text messages, to fulfill a fantasy.
Treaster was actually communicating with an undercover detective. He has pled not guilty. However, listen to what he tells detectives during his interrogation. He actually confesses to having sex with a teenage boy just three and a half weeks before this Polk County sting.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So you still went there for that. To have sex with him knowing that he was 15 years old?
ALLEN TREASTER, FORMER DISNEY EMPLOYEE: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Was that another fantasy? I mean that was, again, a younger age, so --
TREASTER: I guess.
PHILLIPS: That's right, Treaster admits he drove to Georgia to have sex with a 15-year-old boy he met online.
ROBERT KINGSOLVER, FORMER DISNEY EMPLOYEE: My life is ruined, my family's life is ruined.
PHILLIPS: Forty-nine-year-old Robert Kingsolver was a maintenance supervisor at Disney's Magic Kingdom, monitoring and fixing rides like Tea Cups, Winnie the Pooh and It's a Small World. He says he loved his job. Especially the children.
To see the look on the children's faces, to -- you know, when they get to see, you know, Prince Charming or maybe running into Mickey, that was the best part, is to seeing kids glow and seeing their heroes.
PHILLIPS: That all ended in February, when Kingsolver pulled into this drive way, not knowing that he was walking into a sting operation. Within seconds, he is caught and arrested for trying to seduce a lure a 14-year-old child to have sex. Take a look at the graphic text messages between Kingsolver and the
undercover detective who was posing as an underage girl. Kingsolver says he's a cuddling and snuggling kind of guy, who enjoys giving oral sex.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The bottom line is, obviously, you were talking to an undercover law enforcement officer, you weren't talking to a 14- year-old girl. OK. The bottom line boils down to, that conversations that you had maybe with a girl later on, was sexual in nature, was it not?
KINGSOLVER: Yes, it was.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK.
PHILLIPS: Even though he admits to police he wrote the messages, he tells us he was just trying to protect the girl. He has pled not guilty and says his family is standing by him.
KINGSOLVER: They love me. They know me. My kids know me, and they know how much I care for kids, they know how much I love them, all four of my kids. And they know that their dad is not somebody that would go out and hurt a young child. They know their dad is somebody who would go out and protect a young child at any cost.
PHILLIPS: And the arrests are continuing. Four Disney employees were caught in sting operations in just the last five weeks.
PHILLIPS: Our investigation reveals year after year, Walt Disney World employees are getting arrested for child porn and in sex stings set up by Florida Police agencies. And it's not just maintenance workers like Robert Kingsolver. It's security guards, a performer, a costume maker, even a pastor.
(Voice-over): This is 50-year-old Cedric Cuthburt, a former custodial manager at Disney World's Port Orleans Resort. And also a pastor. Police say he was downloading child pornography and soliciting a child for sex online while on the clock at Disney. And at the same time writing a sermon for his church.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do you have to say --
PHILLIPS: Cuthbert pled no contest and was sentenced to six years in prison.
GRADY JUDD, POLK COUNTY SHERIFF: We go after these predators with a vengeance.
PHILLIPS: Grady Judd is the sheriff of neighboring Polk County, known nationally for his aggressive approach to child sex predators.
(On camera): I talked to a number of these men, and they said, it's entrapment, I was totally set up. JUDD: What else are they going to say? Are they going to get on
national news and say, I'm a pervert? I'm a child predator? I seek sex with little boys? No, they're not going to say that. When they tell you that, look them in the eye and say, you're a liar. What you really are is a pervert, a sexual pervert and a child predator.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have never done this. I have no bad record. I can't lose my job over this.
PHILLIPS (voice-over): This is 32-year-Old Patrick Holgerson, a Disney street performer and VIP tour guide in training. He's seen here in photo after photo posted on his Facebook page. He tried to run from police, when they say he showed up to have sex with a 13- year-old boy. It was a sting. Holgerson had engaged in graphic sexual chats, even sending a picture of himself with Mickey Mouse, and it got more explicit from there. Holgerson has pled not guilty. He too told police he was just looking out for the child.
HOLGERSON: I was going to see if he was really doing this, and I felt it was wrong and I was going to actually call it once I left here.
PHILLIPS: Disney declined our request for an on-camera interview. But in a statement said, "We have extensive measures in place, including pre-employment and ongoing criminal background checks. And computer monitoring and firewalls. The numbers reported by CNN represent 1/100 of 1 percent of the 300,000 people we have employed during this time period. We continue to work closely with law enforcement and organizations like the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children as we constantly strengthen our efforts.
So what does the co-founder for the Center of Missing and Exploited Children say about sexual predators being hired at businesses that cater to children?
ERNIE ALLEN, PRESIDENT, INTERNATIONAL CENTER: This is a real threat.
PHILLIPS: Ernie Allen is the president of the International Center. He says for every sexual predator that gets caught, there are still thousands of them we don't know about out there trolling for children.
ALLEN: Most of those who have criminal records are the dumb ones. They're the ones who have gotten caught. Most of those who prey upon children don't have criminal records.
PHILLIPS (on camera): Is there more that Disney could do?
ALLEN: I think there's more that Disney can do, there's more that everybody can do. It's hard to imagine a company that's tried harder to address this issue than Disney.
PHILLIPS (voice-over): Disney's competitors, Universal and SeaWorld, face the same challenges.
This is 23-year-old Matthew Cody Myers. Universal Studios fired him after he was arrested in Polk County's most recent sting. Police say he showed up to have sex with someone he thought was a 14-year-old girl.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So when the sex was instigated by you --
MATTHEW CODY MYERS, FORMER UNIVERSAL STUDIOS EMPLOYEE: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What did you say to instigate the sex act?
MYERS: I was like, would you want to?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Want to what?
MYERS: Have sex.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Take some deep breaths?
MYERS: I'm trying.
PHILLIPS: Myers told police he wouldn't have really gone through with it, and he has pled not guilty.
Universal told us, "We have zero tolerance for this kind of activity. We deal with situations such as this immediately and permanently." Like Disney and SeaWorld, the company also said, "All our team members undergo thorough background checks as part of the hiring process."
SeaWorld said, "The safety of our team members and employees is our top priority," adding that it has, "policies and procedures in place, and we take appropriate action as needed."
JUDD: What we're doing with Disney and everyone else is we're putting shackles on them and then wondering why they can't win the race.
PHILLIPS: Sheriff Judd says businesses that cater to children need to go one step further and use polygraph tests.
JUDD: Anyone that works around children, whether it's in church, in the nursery, or whether it's at Disney or any other of our theme parks, or whether it's in schools, we should be able to give a polygraph examination to them.
PHILLIPS: Reality is, Congress citing privacy and civil liberties issues, has made it illegal for most private companies to polygraph employees.
REP. DENNIS ROSS (R), FLORIDA: So one tool that hasn't been employed --
PHILLIPS: Florida Congress Dennis Ross, a former attorney for Disney World in the late 1980s, wants to change that.
ROSS: They're doing all they can with what we've empowered them to do.
PHILLIPS (on camera): But the sexual predators are still getting hired, so --
ROSS: Which is why we need to be vigilant and as a policy maker to give more tools so that we can prevent the next one from occurring.
PHILLIPS (voice-over): After learning about our story, Congressman Ross introduced legislation that would give companies that serve children the option to polygraph employees. Something Disney told us it would consider.
(On camera): What's the ultimate result here?
ROSS: That we save the next person that's out there. We owe it to ourselves, we owe it to our children, we owe it to our future, to make sure that we do everything we can to make sure that the next victim never happens.
COOPER: Kyra Phillips joins us now.
It's a fascinating report, I didn't realize about the polygraph. I mean, to Disney's point, it is a tiny, you know, tiny fraction of a fraction of the 300,000 employees they have.
PHILLIPS: Right. Yes.
COOPER: Bottom line, are these parks safe?
PHILLIPS: That's a great question, and Disney, Universal, SeaWorld, all insist, yes, this is a safe environment. And as we pointed out, none of these crimes --
COOPER: Were happening on the --
PHILLIPS: Right, were happening at the parks. But clearly this is an issue, right? There's more to it. And so that's why Congressman Ross has responded to our investigation and said hey, let's give them more tools. This is one more tool to help weed these guys out.
And you heard Sheriff Judd, he was -- he laid it out there, bottom line predators go where the kids are.
COOPER: Right. And this is not an issue even just of theme parks, it's a much wider problem in society.
PHILLIPS: Absolutely. And Congressman Dennis Ross also pointed that out. He feels that if all law enforcement saw this story, saw what Sheriff Judd has been doing, this aggressive approach to sex stings, that they could catch so many more sexual predators across this country.
COOPER: All right. Kyra Phillips, appreciate you being with us. Thanks very much.
PHILLIPS: Thank you, Anderson.
COOPER: It's a fascinating report. Congressman Ross who Kyra was just talking about and you saw in her
piece will be a guest tomorrow night on 360 to talk more about his planned legislation as a result of Kyra's reporting.
And as always, make sure you set your DVR so you can watch 360 whenever you want.
Ahead tonight, a lot of other news, breaking news in the immigration crisis. All those kids still coming to the United States, deportation flights getting underway, the first one arriving today. We'll take you to Honduras and follow a mom and daughter who were on that flight returning to the country they so recently fled.
The question, what kind of future are they facing that It doesn't include another attempted trip north? Will they just turn around and try to come back?
Our Rosa Flores is there.
Also our Gary Tuchman is aboard a freight train that also carries human cargo on one of the most dangerous journeys imaginable. Just a live shot right there of Gary on that train. We'll go to him shortly.
Also next, the breaking news out of the Middle East, a ceasefire proposal on the table? What the two warring sides are saying about it tonight.
COOPER: Hey, welcome back. Breaking news, just hours from now Israel's security cabinet is expected to meet to discuss a ceasefire proposal put forward by Egypt. Senior Israeli officials said the proposal is being taken very seriously. Hamas, they're calling it a joke.
This is the air war between Israel and Palestinian militants in Gaza in its second week. Israel still pounding Gaza with airstrikes, hammering what it called terror targets. Officials now put the death toll at 186. The U.N. says 70 percent of the fatalities in Gaza are civilians. More than 1300 people have been wounded.
The U.N. officials said that 17,000 Palestinian refugees are taking shelter in 20 schools in Gaza. Israel's military says Hamas has fired nearly a thousand rockets into Israel. So far no Israelis have been killed.
Wolf Blitzer joins me tonight along with CNN senior international correspondent Ben Wedeman in Gaza.
Wolf, the ceasefire proposal that's on the table, what are the details? What do we know?
WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR, THE SITUATION ROOM: The details are that Hamas will stop firing rockets and missiles into Israel. Israel will stop firing -- engaging in airstrikes against Hamas targets in Gaza, won't engage in any ground invasion, then open up some of the borders, the restricted borders for Gaza, through Israel, through Egypt, make life a little bit easier for the Palestinians there.
And then promise over the next 48 hours to have a high level Israeli delegation, go to Cairo, high-level Hamas delegation go to Cairo, then they can start talking about some other issues on their respective agendas.
The Israelis seem to be welcoming it. The Israel cabinet -- the security cabinet will have an emergency meeting within the next few hours, they're taking it very seriously. A Hamas spokesman, on the other hand, told me he considers it a joke and he says the Egyptians didn't even formally make this presentation to the Hamas leadership. So let's see what happens.
COOPER: Ben, apart from Hamas officially, what are people there talking about? How does it -- the idea of a ceasefire, how is it being received in the streets in Gaza?
BEN WEDEMAN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Quite well, actually, Anderson. People were very happy, relieved to hear that there was a possibility of the cessation of these airstrikes on Gaza that have left well over 180 people dead and forced more than 70,000 people to leave their homes in the north. People are exhausted, life has been completely disrupted.
They were hoping that there would be an end to these hostilities. Perhaps the problem is that Hamas despite all the rockets it's fired into Israel, all its bluster, hasn't really got much to show for it. All that Gaza has is more than 180 new dead people. But very little in terms of any sort of real damage inflicted on the Israelis from Hamas' perspective, so it's a sort of complete disrespect between what ordinary Gazans would like to see and what Hamas would like to see.
COOPER: And Wolf, Israel is claiming to have downed a drone from Gaza today. One of a number that Hamas claims they have. There's video showing what Hamas claims is one of their drones. Do we know much about this?
BLITZER: Yes. The Israelis told me it's not necessarily very sophisticated, but it does have some explosive capability. It potentially could kill some Israelis, if you will, so they're taking it seriously. It's not the highest tech drone, but it is a drone. It did fly across Israeli airspace, the Israelis managed to shoot it down.
COOPER: Ben, it's interesting what you said about people on the streets, how they're viewing this. And does Hamas come out of this stronger or weaker?
WEDEMAN: If there is a ceasefire, as I said, they won't really have much to show unless there's a dramatic change in the quality of life in Gaza very quickly because it's really getting difficult here. Hamas is going to have -- have a hard time explaining to the people of Gaza why so many people had to be killed, so many people had to be wounded. It's more than 1,300. Hundreds of houses have been destroyed. So they really don't have much to show for this almost now eight days
of airstrikes and yes, they're going to be on the defensive politically.
COOPER: Ben Wedeman, appreciate it. Wolf Blitzer, thank you.
Well, we also have breaking news tonight out of Honduras. The first deportation flight arriving there. And because as we've been reporting, many of the deportees say they'll try again, we want to show you just what that means.
Our Gary Tuchman is on the road back north including the train from Mexico known as the beast. Also known as the train of death.
COOPER: More breaking news tonight. For a few dozen women and their children tonight a long, dangerous, sometimes deadly trip north from the violence in Central America across the border to this country has come full circle. They are now back in Honduras after being put on a plane in Roswell, New Mexico, and flown south. It's the first of what could be many more deportation flights to come.
The kids, part of an influx that's overwhelming border facilities and swamping the courts responsible for deciding who goes and who gets to stay. Now on top of that of course there's the politics. Some of it cynical, some well intentioned, just about all of it raising the temperature in Washington.
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SEN. PATRICK LEAHY (D), VERMONT: When you have 8 or 9-year-old girl who's being raped by gangs that are sending them up here, are they being sent by their parents to escape that kind of violence, I'm not sure Americans all really feel we should immediately send them back.
SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA: In all due respect to my colleague in the Senate and others, are they ignoring what's happening to these children on the way up? Are they ignoring the rapes, the death, the riding on the top of a train?
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COOPER: Well, Senator John McCain was on "STATE OF THE UNION" yesterday. Virtually everyone with a point of view making the rounds this weekend. And in a moment we're going to talk to the governor of Nebraska who says he's being kept in the dark about undocumented kids who have been sent to his state already.
But first what the kids are facing now that they are back in Honduras. For that, let's go to Rosa Flores in San Pedro Sula in Honduras.
Rosa, you were there when the plane landed. They started processing deportees, what happened?
ROSA FLORES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You know, I talked to one of the workers that helped process these children and these women, and she tells me that the stories varied from women that were escaping violence and women that were unemployed and that they wanted an opportunity for their lives.
And I also got access to the list of these women. So the ages range from women as old as 49 years old to children as young as six months old. And we actually saw that women with her baby on her arms getting on to the bus because that's what happens, Anderson. They get processed in the building that you see behind me, then they get on a bus, and they are back in their country, they're free, perhaps back to that same violence and to the same poverty that they were escaping.
COOPER: What did they tell you? Because I know you followed the bus of deportees after they were processed and you talked to some of them.
FLORES: Yes. We talked to one particular woman and her eyes were swollen because she had been just so emotional. She told me that as soon as she got on the plane she started crying. When she landed, she started crying. As she traveled from Honduras to the United States with her 6-year-old daughter, and her 6-year-old daughter was a little sick, she was not feeling very well. And her daughter told me that they got on trains, it was a very scary experience for her.
She says that they walked through the forest at night sometimes. She said she pointed out this little girl saying that sometimes she saw monkeys and snakes. It was a very frightening experience. And I asked this woman, what are you expecting now that you're back right where you began? And she said there is nothing here for her. She says I think -- child and I want something better for her.
COOPER: We're getting a few satellite hits, so you know. You were in Honduras a few months ago, when a group of men were returned to the country by plane. Was that arrival different than today?
FLORES: It certainly was. When that arrival happened, we had full access. Now, again, these were men deported to Honduras on a commercial plane. They arrived shackled, their hands and feet were shackled. We talked to them. A woman told me when it comes to women and children, they're just on a commercial flight, they arrive, and they're free to go because we got access --
COOPER: We have to drop out. Rosa, I'm sorry, we're having a lot of hits, probably weather issue. We appreciate the reporting. Rosa Flores there in Honduras. As we mentioned until their day in court, the tens of thousands of undocumented minors flowing across the border, they need to be accommodated somehow, put up somewhere.
In parts of the country, people have been saying, loudly, not here, not in my community, this is Murrieta California, north of San Diego. The federal government has been sending kids far and wide, including to Nebraska where the governor, Dave Heineman, is far from pleased at how it's being done in his case.
So Governor, these 200 children brought to your state in recent months, is it true you were told nothing about them coming? GOVERNOR DAVE HEINEMAN, NEBRASKA: That's exactly right. I only learned last Thursday or Friday when Senator Johanns found out. The federal government sent 200 illegal individuals to our state. No mayor has been notified. I have not been notified. We believe we deserve that notification.
COOPER: Do you know who they are? Do you know that they are all children? Do you know anything about them?
HEINEMAN: We don't know anything about them right now, other than the Department of Health and Human Services has said that about 200 are in the state and then I've requested at their office and we're sending a letter to their office that our two senators, two congressmen and I are signing, demanding and requesting who are these illegal individuals.
Who are they going to be sponsored by, what's their status, and where are they located? Our concern is the cost and they're not supposed to be receiving federal or state taxpayer funded benefits, and the easiest way for us to make sure that doesn't happen is to know who they are.
COOPER: A spokesman for the Department of Health and Human Services has said that they're legally barred from giving you any information because of privacy concerns. Do you buy that?
HEINEMAN: No, I don't. These are illegal individuals. I'm not quite buying that argument, I'm pleased to tell you that Senator Johanns of Nebraska, Congressman Terry from Omaha, they're going to introduce legislation requiring the secretary of Health and Human Services to share this information. And I suspect that will be part of the date in the next week or two about how they're going to move forward in that regard.
COOPER: How much of this though is about politics? Obviously you're a staunch opponent of President Obama, I was just looking at I think a Pew study. They estimate you have 45,000 undocumented immigrants in your state. Does 200 kids really make a difference?
HEINEMAN: It's not just the 200. It's 200 today, how many it is tomorrow, this isn't about partisan politics, I agree with the president. We will treat them humanely while they're here. We should expeditiously return them to their country of origin. It's not about politics. Talk to governors of both parties. Governor Hickenlooper of Colorado, a Democrat, he's expressing the same concern as I am.
COOPER: As you hear about the conditions some of these kids are living in, in a place like Honduras, where drug lords run the elementary schools, do you see them? Do you think any of them have a right to be here as refugees? Do you see them in that way at all? Just on humanitarian grounds or do you think they should all be returned back to their countries of origin?
HEINEMAN: There could be a few that will qualify on humanitarian grounds. I don't know enough of the details especially when they won't share anything with us. I know a lot of citizens are concerned, will they have vaccinations as they get into our schools. So again, we need more information, but this is a crisis. This is an extraordinary situation that demands action by the federal government. And the key to secure the border in the first place, we won the have this challenge.
COOPER: Governor, appreciate your time tonight, thank you.
HEINEMAN: Thank you, Anderson.
COOPER: Next morning the train that the mother and child Rosa Flores spoke to, actually Gary Tuchman is on it right now, the one that migrants ride north on or sometimes even die riding on to try to get north.
Plus also tonight, the 15-year-old girl who witnessed her family's massacre. She was nearly killed herself. She survived and is now speaking out for justice.
COOPER: More now on what lies ahead for some of the kids that are sent back to Central America and whatever danger they now face. Their flight home is the safest part of a very long and very dangerous journey to the United States. A journey that some may soon try to repeat. Gary Tuchman has been on that road north for days now. He joins us right where it really, really gets dangerous -- Gary.
GARY TUCHMAN, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Anderson, the schedule is very erratic, but at any time now, a freight train will run through here. The train is known as the beast. This is a freight car that it will be connected to, but it's dangerous because undocumented migrants ride on top of it, not in it or in between it. It goes at full speed and scores of people are hurt and killed each year.
And many of them are also mugged while they are on top of this trains. It's very dangerous. They have to be very motivated and driven to go on this train, very desperate to go on this train. The difficulties don't start here, they start much earlier when they go from Guatemala to Mexico.
TUCHMAN: This is the Southern Mexican border city, we've explained that for people that want to cross United States going from Guatemala to Mexico is relatively easy. This is where the serious business starts. Illegal immigration business is very open. Look at this explicit sign, it says in Spanish. Welcome to the coyote pass.
Coyotes are the human smugglers and this is where people come to find human smugglers to get to the United States border. There are people up there, when we looked at them, they saw we had cameras, many of them scattered.
(voice-over): Passenger vans that snake through the border areas are all part of the equation. (on camera): These vans are often very crowded as this one is, also very hot. There is no air conditioning. Mostly commuters who are going about an hour drive to the southern portion of Mexico. Often undocumented migrants are on this bus so they can get services, food, medical care while they plan their journeys up north.
Often, undocumented migrants have no money and can't afford these vans. They have to figure out how to start their journey. We found a man who wants to get to the United States, but didn't have enough money to get on this van.
This is Luis Moreno. He is 33 years old. He doesn't speak any English, but we've been talking to him a little bit. This is a man from Guatemala. He's here in Mexico right now. He wants to go to the United States, and as a matter of fact, he's been there. And he's been caught three times by authorities and sent back to Guatemala.
But also very interesting about Luis, he's been caught five times here in the nation of Mexico. Not in the border, but in other cities, four of times he was on the beast, a train where so many people get hurt. He was riding on top of the train, tied down so he wouldn't fall off. In eight times he's been sent back to Guatemala, he still says he's ready to go back.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): I want to go to the U.S. and work and help out my family. I can't do it where I'm from.
TUCHMAN: One of the places that migrants come to for medical help is this Catholic Church and clinic. This is when you're seriously hurt or sick, for example, this man right here, you can see his foot. He was in the United States, got kicked out, came back to Mexico and got hit by a car while crossing, really messed up his ankle.
He says he still wants to go back to the United States, but won't be able to walk for a couple weeks. This baby was born here, six days ago, and this woman right here, this is Malitza -- she's 20 years old. She is the sister of the baby and this is her daughter. Her mother's here too. Her mother gave birth to the baby.
They have come from Honduras. They hope to get to the United States someday. That's what Malitza just told me, but right now, they are here for the medical care of the baby being born, also some food and hoping to get some good shelter for the next few days before they continue.
(voice-over): The journey to the United States is long and dangerous. Success is anything but assured.
COOPER: Gary, I mean, how long a journey does it take, for somebody who's trying to get from Mexico to the southern border to the U.S. border.
TUCHMAN: Thousands of people take this beast, they're not hurt if they're not killed, if they don't fall ill, if they're not mugged by bandits, it could take them at least two weeks. Sometimes we were just talking to one man who took it last week and was sent back to the United States. He says it took him 12 days. That was an all-time record. He's taken the beast five times.
COOPER: Wow. Gary, appreciate the reporting this week and last week as well. There is a lot more happening tonight. Pamela Brown has a 360 Bulletin -- Pamela.
PAMELA BROWN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Anderson, a bloody scene in Baghdad, militants stormed a reported brothel killing at least 34 people, most of the victims were women, and according to reports, the attackers left a message on the door that read, this is the fate of any prostitution.
And six weeks after his release from Taliban captivity, Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl is returning to regular duty. He'll have a desk job at Fort Sam Houston in Texas. An Army spokesman says Bergdahl won't be treated any differently than any other soldier.
The "Costa Concordia" floats again, two and a half years after running aground and sinking off the coast of Italy, the cruise liner will be towed to land and broken up for scrap. Thirty two people were killed in that accident. The ship's captain is on trial for manslaughter and other charges. He denies any wrong doing.
And a simple inexpensive smell test might one day help detect early stages of Alzheimer's disease. New research suggest that brain cells crucial to a person's sense of smell may be killed in the early stages of dementia. However, researchers warn, Anderson, that more work needs to be done, since a number of factors can impact your sense of smell.
COOPER: It would be incredible if they could find an early detection. Pamela, thanks very much for that.
Just ahead, days after watching a gunman execute her parents and siblings, the 15-year-old, Cassidy Stays, spoke out for the first time quoting a character from Harry Potter.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: In the "Prisoner of Azkahban" happiness can be found in the darkest of times if one only remembers to turn on the light.
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COOPER: Crime and punishment tonight, the man accused of killing six members of a Texas family in cold blood sits in jail charged with capital murder tonight. Over the weekend, the sole survivor of the massacre, 15-year-old Cassidy Stay spoke publicly for the first time at a memorial service for her parents and her siblings.
Imagine the strength being able to do that, to attend the service at all after what she had been through, is frankly astonishing. What she did in the moments after her family was killed was even more remarkable. She had been shot in the head, left for dead and saved other family members, who were allegedly the gunman's next targets. Randi Kaye reports.
CASSIDY STAY, SHOOTING SURVIVOR: I would like to thank all the first responders, nurses and doctors that have taken care of me. I'm feeling a lot better and I'm on a very straightforward path to a full recovery.
RANDI KAYE, CNN INVESTIGATIVE CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A full recovery. Some at this memorial service might call that a miracle. Considering what happened to 15-year-old Cassidy Stay and her family just last week.
Wednesday afternoon, police say Ronald Haskell posing as a FedEx delivery man, forced his way into the Stay's Texas home. Haskell reportedly tied up Cassidy and her family. Police say he demanded to know the whereabouts of his ex-wife, Cassidy's aunt. Then he shot each family member twice, execution style.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have not seen a tragedy in one family this horrific.
KAYE: By the time the bullet stopped, Cassidy's parents were dead, so were all four of her siblings, ages 4 to 13. Cassidy had been shot too. In critical condition with a skull fracture, she played dead. After the killer left, Cassidy somehow found the courage, having just seen her family murdered to call 911. Cassidy told police Haskell was heading to her grandparents home, giving them a description of his car. The chase ended with Haskell in custody and Cassidy's grandparents safe.
ROGER LYONS, CASSIDY STAY'S GRANDFATHER: Without her courage and quick thinking, we might be mourning the deaths of 20 -- yes, I said 20 people today, including myself, and nearly all of our children and grandchildren.
KAYE: Haskell and his ex-wife had lived in Utah. This family photo is from Haskell's Facebook page. When the marriage fell apart, Cassidy's mother reportedly brought Cassidy's aunt, her sister to Texas to start a new life. Haskell's ex-wife filed this protective order against him. In court Friday, Haskell collapsed as details of the shooting were read. He has not yet entered a plea.
(on camera): We called Haskell's attorney, who told us Haskell seems to be suffering from mental illness. He also told us that Haskell has a history of it, and had been in and out of hospitals, and this interesting detail. His attorney told us that Haskell was not taking his prescribed medication at the time of the killings.
(voice-over): Cassidy Stay meanwhile seems determined to remain positive. Standing strong after such unimaginable loss.
STAY: I know that my Mom, Dad, Brian, Emily, Becca and Zach are in a much better place, and that I'll be able to see them again one day.
KAYE: Randi Kaye, CNN, New York.
COOPER: She's an extraordinary young woman. The Gofundme page has been created to help Cassidy. You can find more information on our web site. Her entire family killed. We'll be right back.
COOPER: Time now for "The Ridiculist." Tonight we are adding a pot layoffs. So here's what happened, Washington State last week became the second state in the country to sell recreational marijuana. As with anything that's hotly anticipated, you know, Beyonce concerts, the royal wedding, someone has to be first in line.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I will be the first guy to buy recreational cannabis here in Spokane.
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COOPER: Aim high, Mike. He camped out overnight. Unfortunately, Mike says after he appeared on the local news he got fired from his job as a security guard. Why? Well, pot is legal. Maybe he was being too rowdy.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do we want? Marijuana. When do we want it? At 2:00 p.m.
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COOPER: He was talking to himself basically, that's about as rowdy as Mike got. He said his employer asked him to take a drug test, and what do you know, not surprisingly, he failed. Now, you might be wondering what kind of weed was worth waiting 19 hours in line for?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm here for the Sativa, some of the rare herbs.
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COOPER: Sativa. Where have I heard that name before?
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KAYE: One thing that I did learn this week, here's a couple buds here, this is considered a Sativa. This is a very high energy marijuana, which Coloradans like because they're active people here in Colorado. There's another one here called Indica. It means in the couch. Indica means you're going to crawl into the fetal position and collapse on the couch.
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COOPER: Notice how red Randi was? Not just her shirt, but her face. She seemed really into it. That was the resident pot expert who you may recall we had to drag out of the state of Colorado.
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COOPER: How much longer are you going to be there, Randi? Are you moving there?
KAYE: I think I need to come home.
COOPER: I think so.
KAYE: I'm coming home tomorrow.
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COOPER: So if you have pot questions, ask Randi Kaye.
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COOPER: I once faced off against Cheech Marin on Cheech and Chong on "Celebrity Jeopardy." I don't see what the big deal is, though, it's not like it's particularly tough to beat Cheech Marin.
CHEECH MARIN: Who is Arnold Schwarzenegger? What is "Never Never Land?" What is Camelot? What is a baster?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're a winner today, your charity will get 50,000.
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COOPER: I lost to Cheech Marin, so what? At least I didn't lose to Chong. As for Mike in Spokane, he posted his resume on Craigslist and he has no regrets.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm number one, and nobody can take that away.
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COOPER: Mike has been given his job back, or offered his job back, after he was indulging in weed on his day off, and a day off is a day off even on "The Ridiculist." That does it for us. We'll see you again at 11 p.m. Eastern, another edition of 360. Morgan Spurlock "INSIDE MAN" starts now.