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ERIN BURNETT OUTFRONT
Boehner: "This Is A Problem Of The President's Own Making"; One Family's Path From Guatemala To U.S.; Terrorists Seize Nuclear Materials; Amazon Sued Over Kids' App Purchases; New Wave of Israeli Airstrikes Batter Gaza
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ERIN BURNETT, CNN HOST: Next breaking news, House Republicans just announcing plans to sue the president of the United States. The White House tonight fighting back.
Plus a high-end call girl allegedly involved in the death of a Google executive. Now police say she may have been involved in yet another man's death.
And an American who literally wrote the book on running with the bulls is gored by a bull twice. That's an OUTFRONT report. Let's go OUTFRONT.
Good evening, everyone. I'm Erin Burnett. OUTFRONT tonight, we begin with the breaking news in Washington. House Republicans announcing just moments ago that they are suing President Obama. They accuse the president of violating the constitution when he failed to consult Congress before making changes to his signature health care law. That's right. They're just not letting go of this health care Boogeyman.
Let's get to Michelle Kosinski at the White House. Michelle, what is the reaction from there tonight?
MICHELLE KOSINSKI, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: The White House just said that they find it disappointing that House Republicans would, as they put it, waste time and taxpayer dollars on a political stunt. This goes right along with what we heard President Obama say today. He just let loose on House Republicans openly mocking them for threatening to sue him for, as he put it, doing his job when he said they, in fact, are not doing their jobs by passing bills like comprehensive immigration reform.
The reason that these Republicans are suing the president has nothing to do with immigration. I mean, they're not putting it into the lawsuit. That could also be politically explosive, it could backfire on them. What they're sort of delineating is the health care law. That's because there was a law on the books. The president changed that. Kind of one that goes most legally in line with an argument that he overstepped his constitutional bounds -- Erin.
BURNETT: All right, Michelle, thank you very much. And you know this brings us to our other top story, of course, the border crisis. The House speaker today, John Boehner, continuing his sharp criticism of the president. First a lawsuit now there's this onslaught on the issue of immigration.
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REP. JOHN BOEHNER (R-OH), HOUSE SPEAKER: Listen, this is a problem of the president's own making. He's been president for 5-1/2 years. When's he going to take responsibility for something?
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BURNETT: The president is fighting back.
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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The House Republicans, they haven't even called the bill. They have no reason to take a vote on the bill. They don't have enough energy or organization or I don't know what to just even vote no on the bill and then they're mad at me for trying to do some things to make the immigration system work better. So it doesn't make sense.
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BURNETT: Democratic Congresswoman Loretta Sanchez from California will be joining me in just a moment. I wanted to begin with our Kyung Lah. She has a story about a Guatemalan woman and her child. They were just arrested at the U.S. border. Kyung, this really goes to the heart of the political fight going on between John Boehner and President Obama.
KYUNG LAH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It does because the question is, is do they stay in these border states, that's what we're hearing from a lot of these towns or are they absorbed in other parts of the country. Do they feel inspired to go and actually face a judge? We followed one woman, Erin, and we went through those footsteps with her, and it's really extraordinary to step into her mind, the mind of an undocumented person.
LAH (voice-over): Speeding down a highway in northwest Washington, this is the end of a long bus journey. You're seeing the beginning of an undocumented life in America. We first met Petrona and her son, Rudy, 38 hours earlier, 1300 miles south in El Centro, California. Her toddler, so exhausted sleeping through the interview as his mother recounts the nightmare of their life in Guatemala.
"I just want us to live" she says, "and it wasn't going to happen at home." Guatemalan gangs ruling her town have threatened to kidnap and kill Rudy unless she paid them. They'd already broken both the legs of Petrona's father she says and killed another child in the family. To escape a death threat, her husband had already slipped illegally into America last year. She would do the same.
Two weeks ago, like so many others, she slipped easily into Mexico at the Guatemalan border. Shortly after she crossed a river into Texas, she was arrested and brought to a detention center joining dozens of other mothers and children. To cope with the tens of thousands of Central Americans like Petrona, the government flew her and hundreds of others to Arizona, then drove them to the border patrol center in El Centro, California, to be fingerprinted, have their picture taken and given notice to appear in court.
She's released on her own recognizance. "I'm almost there" she tells her husband using a borrowed a cell phone. He is living in Washington State where she's now heading. He sent her money to buy the ticket and Petrona and Rudy board the Greyhound for the 38-hour trip north.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not in Murrieta. Not in Murrieta!
LAH: Protesters in Murrieta say they don't want the influx of undocumented immigrants to come and burden their town. But Petrona and all the other undocumented immigrants we've met are heading to other cities across America, absorbed into the north, the Midwest and east.
(on camera): What if America makes you go back? "I will never go back" she says. Her son would be killed. It's been more than a year since Santos has seen his family. Rudy doesn't recognize his father, but that doesn't matter right now. "I don't know how she did it" he says. So stunned he's not sure what else to say.
They say Petrona will show up for her federal hearing, but there's little incentive, no monitoring and the very real risk of deportation. Under that shadow begins their undocumented life, like the millions who have already made this journey. Kyung Lah, CNN, Tacoma, Washington.
BURNETT: OUTFRONT tonight, California Democrat Loretta Sanchez who serves on the Homeland Security Committee in the House. Congresswoman, good to have you with us. I mean, you just heard that story. It's impossible to watch those stories and even if you're of the mind of just send everybody back, to not be moved by a father who is speechless and that he's finally seeing his family, but a son who doesn't even remember his father.
But yet the story here is a family being able to cross the border because other family members had crossed the border before and it seems a very difficult cycle that clearly there seems to be people crossing this border because they know others who have and they don't think that they'll get caught.
REP. LORETTA SANCHEZ (D), CALIFORNIA: Well, certainly the fact that we are apprehending so many of them means that they are getting caught. Not only have we built more walls particularly on our southern border, but we've got significantly more border patrol there now and the fact that we are apprehending them means that we actually are getting to them. So then the question becomes, well, what do you do especially if they're unaccompanied minors? Some would say, and I might say that, too, if you can reunite them with their families, if their families are in the U.S., maybe you leave them here. If they're back in Guatemala or some other place, maybe you reunite them. And that's why we need to have these judges. One of the things that the president has asked for is more money for these judges.
So that there can be a day in court for these people to plead their case as to, my husband's here or, you know, it would be extremely dangerous for me to go back. That's what the president has asked for. He's asked for more money for a law that was actually passed by the Congress.
And so many of these people, my colleagues who are saying this is terrible, he's not obeying the law, well, in fact he's trying to obey the law. He's trying to give these people some judicial review.
BURNETT: And obviously the House, the Senate had passed the reform, the House didn't. You raise that point very fairly. But I guess the question is, it's hard to tell exactly from what he's saying what is the problem because when he talks, on the one hand he is saying I deported more people than anyone else. I have more border agents than anyone before.
But wait he's saying I need more money because I need more agents. What is it? It's working? What's he trying to say? That's what I don't understand. He's trying to say I'm doing it right, but I need more money to do it right.
SANCHEZ: Well, he has -- you know, one of the things that my Republican colleagues and I know because I've sat on Homeland Security, one of the things they've said is, listen, we'll consider immigration reform, what to do with the people already here. We'll consider a plan for the future of how people can come and get jobs. But the first thing you need to do is to secure the borders.
Well, we've spent a lot of money, time and effort. We've put a lot more people on the border, in particular, as I said, the southern border. And the fact that we are apprehending these people, it is there, we have done it. But they have refused to move on to one of the real issues that now that we've made the fences, now that we've made the border secure, how do we make the gate a little bit wider.
So that people who want to come here for work and clearly our economic situation suggests that there is work for them here, those people that want to come, how do we get them the visas, how do we make the programs? How do we make those people who have been here for 25 years and are part of our community? They're deacons in our church. They're working in our restaurants, how do we give them the paperwork they need? In order to do that, we need this vote on the House floor.
BURNETT: All right, of course, it's a tough issue because some of those jobs you're dealing with the United States economy, still in economic duress with people who also desperately want jobs. That makes it a lot more complicated. Before we go, I wanted to ask you about the other breaking news story tonight. What's your view? What do you say to your House Republican colleagues who now are saying that they're actually going to sue the president for what they say is a violation of the constitution because he didn't consult Congress before he made changes to his health care law, of course, the health care law that they themselves passed.
SANCHEZ: Well, the answer to that is I actually had discussion over the last few days in private with some of my Republican colleagues and many of them have said, look, if this is a political move, we can't seem to get traction in other places. Really the move might be to impeach the president, but they decide to go through a court system.
I think it's all for show. I think it wastes a lot of time and a lot of effort instead of looking at a way in which to work together to make the Affordable Care Act better. They're actually just going out on a political -- in a political ploy.
BURNETT: Congresswoman, thank you very much. It's good to talk to you tonight.
OUTFRONT next the terrorist group that's aiming to control Iraq and frankly a lot more than Iraq when you talk about Syria and a broader caliphate, apparently possesses nuclear. We talk about nuclear materials. We have a live OUTFRONT report on that.
Plus the violence escalating in Gaza, the death toll today spiking. Our own Wolf Blitzer is on the scene with the latest. We'll talk to him.
Beatlemania turns 50. That is shocking. The man who toured with the band shared some secrets with us.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: John was basically in tears because he said to me, why did I have to open my big mouth? Why did I say it?
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BURNETT: Tonight, new concerns that terrorists in Iraq have their hands on nuclear materials. Government officials there saying ISIS militants stole nearly 90 pounds of uranium compounds. ISIS the group, the terrorist group that has been making huge ground gains in Iraq, controlling large parts of the north and western part of the country. Arwa Damon is in Baghdad tonight --Arwa.
ARWA DAMON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Erin, the Iraqi government has issued an urgent appeal to the United Nations for assistance after ISIS fighters managed to get their hands on 40 kilograms. That's about 80 plus pounds of uranium from the Mosul University campus. Now the IAEA and the United States are saying this is not enriched uranium, it's not weapons grade.
They don't assess it as being something that would pose a current or immediate threat, but the Iraqi government is using whatever rallying points it can at this stage to get even more international support in the ongoing battle against ISIS.
It has now been a month since the terrorist organization took over Iraq's second largest city of Mosul with the government here no closer to gaining it or other key territory back as ISIS fighters continue to try to push their way towards the capital -- Erin.
BURNETT: Arwa, thank you very much. OUTFRONT now, CNN national security analyst, Bob Baer, also a former CIA operative. You know, you heard Arwa saying it's low grade, not weapons grade. When you have 90 pounds of uranium that isn't weapons grade, how quickly can it become something that can be a serious threat?
ROBERT BAER, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: Well, it's not particularly lethal, but if you turn it into a dirty bomb, let's say a car bomb or a truck and exploded it in Baghdad, which ISIS is capable of doing, it would have an enormous psychological effect and have a wider kill radius. You'd see people flowing out of town if this happened.
There are other nuclear materials that ISIS may also have that haven't really been reported, Cesium and some other things. Even Ramadi, there was nuclear material left behind. So it's a serious threat if ISIS decides to turn it against a city like Baghdad.
BURNETT: So how difficult would it be to use those materials, and you're mentioning also perhaps some unreported things like Cesium that may also have been seized, how could they be used to manufacture weapons of mass destruction?
BAER: You simply take explosives and you fill a car with it or a truck and you wrap the material around it, the uranium, the uranium compound, and it will send it over a wide area, blocks and blocks. I think again it's going to be the psychological effect. The question is would ISIS do this? We simply don't understand the movement well enough to know that, but if the sectarian fighting continues the way it is, it wouldn't surprise me if they attempted this.
BURNETT: So could it pose a threat outside of Iraq? I mean, you're talking about Baghdad. And obviously that seems to be their immediate goal, right, is to take over Baghdad and more territory where they are, but what about outside?
BAER: Look, the border with Jordan is porous still, the border with Saudi Arabia, you could sneak one of these trucks into Jordan. It's possible. A lot of smuggling goes across that border. You can have the effect it would have, even a low grade uranium bomb in Amman, Jordan, would send shockwaves across the Middle East.
The United States as well as the United Nations will almost feel impelled to get back into Iraq if this sort of thing happened. I mean, there are other weapons of mass destructions. There is the Hadifa dam, you can let all the water out, it's particularly full at this point. It would cause mass casualties in Iraq. It depends how crazy ISIS is and I can't give you a good answer on that. BURNETT: As you say, a low grade uranium bomb, I would frankly say in any city would cause fear around the world, especially in the United States and in western capitals. Thank you, Bob Baer.
Still to come, Amazon slapped with a major lawsuit. Here's the question, did Amazon use children to bill millions of dollars from parents to try to pad its bottom line.
Plus, a new photo of Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl smiling next to a terrorist. Is that a real smile? Is that a sign of what he was doing there or is it completely staged?
And the man who wrote a book about how to avoid a bull attack got gored by a bull. Jeanne Moos has that story for us.
BURNETT: Amazon is being accused of making millions of dollars off of parents. According to a government lawsuit, the world's largest online retailer actually failed to stop children from using apps to rack up hundreds of dollars on their parents' credit cards. You know, that's easy money for Amazon. That's the theory in the lawsuit at least.
But tonight Amazon tells OUTFRONT that the claims are baseless. Richard Quest is OUTFRONT with tonight's money and power. Richard, you know, this is a huge deal because the government is going after Amazon. When you look at this, this would be seemingly a huge, easy way for companies like Amazon to make easy money.
RICHARD QUEST, CNN INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: If that's what they were intending to do, it would indeed. We're talking about an app purchase for sort of things like this. Here you have a classic example. This is Farmville where you can buy things which come up on the screen, Widgets, all sorts of different things, which you can then use as part of the game. But what is happening in these games is that there's no barrier between the child saying, yes, I'll buy it! And the parent saying, no, you won't. And the FTC is saying that's the problem. Take a listen.
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MALINI MITHAL, FEDERAL TRADE COORDINATOR: Amazon failed to provide basic information about charges. These were charges for things like pet food to feed the starving pet. They could cost as much as $99 a pop. They could be racked up in unlimited amounts by kids with a simple click of a button.
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QUEST: The problem is Amazon now says that was then, this is now. On the Amazon site if you're trying to do it with a Kindle Fire, there is a graphic, there is a barrier that people have to put parental consent in before they can buy these things. There it is. Use coins, save cash. But you have to put a password in. Amazon's fighting back saying our experience at launch was responsible, customer-focused, lawful including prominent notice effective parental controls, onwards and onwards. What you have here is the FTC saying you didn't do it. Amazon saying maybe we didn't then but we're doing it now. But the FTC is still going hard for them.
BURNETT: And what's interesting about this -- because people at home are thinking about how this happened and it might have happened to people watching -- the FTC has already gone after this, this issue of companies making easy money off of parents with Apple. Apple ended up having to provide $32.5 million in refunds.
They had to make changes in their system, right, because I guess the way they'd had it was there was a 15-minute window to make purchases so kids could zip in after their parents and buy all sorts of things. And Apple had to pay a lot of money. Apple may be the one throwing other people under the bus?
QUEST: The important thing here is what the politicians are saying. Take for example senator fisher of Nebraska who has written to the FTC basically saying stop this now. This is stifling innovation. Mistakes were made. Changes have been put in place, but this is the new economy and if you continue down this road, FTC, you will stifle new ideas.
BURNETT: Now, Richard, I want to just say there's an update on a story you were talking about. It appears there are people like me out there still, people who do not believe that there was a cupcake calamity, people that adore cupcakes and maybe crumbs is going to rise again even after it was dead on arrival earlier this week?
QUEST: A group of investors has decided to come forward and rescue Crumbs Bakery, makers of those oversized cupcakes, the ones you don't like. Crumbs says they're delighted and they'll talk to them. The stock has rocketed up more than a thousand percent. Erin, you remember what you said about Crumbs cupcake last week?
BURNETT: I said they're too big. They are too big. They're too big. They make you feel gross.
QUEST: So I guess you're not one of those investors that's going to be trying to rescue Crumbs.
BURNETT: No, I'm not. All right. Richard Quest, thank you very much.
OUTFRONT next, breaking news, a new wave of Israeli air strikes battling Gaza tonight. Wolf Blitzer is there tonight. A high-end call girl charged with a Google executive's death. Now she might have been involved in another drug overdose death.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My boyfriend overdosed or something like he -- he won't respond. (END VIDEO CLIP)
BURNETT: Breaking news: President Obama spoke today with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu about the crisis in the Middle East, expressing concern about the risk of even more escalation. Still, though, he reiterated Israel's right to defend itself against attacks from Hamas.
Now, on the ground, a new wave of Israeli airstrikes have been battering Gaza. All of this, Israel says, an effort to stop militant rocket fire from Hamas coming into Israel.
Today, rocket fire from Gaza struck the coastal city of Ashdod, Israel. Two Israeli soldiers were wounded in another attack.
And Hamas released this footage of militants firing rockets into Israeli cities. Israel says more than 350 of those rockets have been launched this week, four into Jerusalem today.
Meanwhile, Israel says it has struck at least 785 Hamas targets since Monday. Palestinian officials say more than 80 Palestinians already have been killed by those strikes.
And now, Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says the offensive is going to get bigger.
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BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER: This operation could take time. We resolve to defend our families and our homes.
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BURNETT: Already, Israeli tanks are poised at the border prepared for a possible ground invasion into Gaza.
And Wolf Blitzer joins me now from Jerusalem where, obviously, it's incredibly tense and a place where you have rockets coming into a city where people are going about their daily lives. Wolf, what are your sources telling you about what to expect? As the number of rockets go up and up on both sides, are we looking at an all-out war?
WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR, THE SITUATION ROOM: The pressure clearly is growing on the prime minister of Israel and the Israeli cabinet to authorize a full-scale invasion, a ground offensive against various targets inside Gaza, not necessarily they say to reoccupy Gaza, which Israel vacated back in 2005, but to go after as much of Hamas' rockets and military firepower, their arsenal, as possible to destroy it. It's a pretty risky operation, though, because remember Gaza is a very small area, about 1.5 million Palestinians are crowded in there. It could be extremely bloody.
And as you pointed out, the president of the United States spoke with the prime minister today. And I assume President Obama urged caution and restraint. I don't know how much longer the Israelis are going to feel that restraint, the pressure clearly building to move in.
BURNETT: Of course, the pressure building, but as you say impossible to not kill children, civilians when you're looking at such densely populated locations. And when you arrived earlier today, Wolf, what have been your impressions so far coming into -- you know, it's hard sometimes to imagine just what a small space we're talking about, that you're about rockets coming into a city that really is the heart and soul of a country.
BLITZER: You know, the immediate impression you get off the plane at Ben Gurion Airport outside of Tel Aviv and you're walking in the terminal and literally every 40, 50 feet you see a sign "shelter" and then there's arrows, where you go to a shelter, to a bomb shelter.
And, of course, here in Jerusalem, you see that the Israelis, though, are a pretty hardy folk. They're going about with their lives but they're clearly concerned whether in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv or other populated parts of the country especially down south near the Gaza border.
So, it's a tense time. They've been through it before. They're not happy about it. But they feel they got to do something about it, so they're worried.
BURNETT: All right. Wolf Blitzer, thank you very much. Wolf will continue his reporting there from Israel and Jerusalem throughout the week.
BLITZER: Thank you.
BURNETT: And tonight, a new picture of Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl, posing with a Taliban leader. I want to show this to you because a few things to make clear.
First of all, it's undated. It was while he was in captivity. It was posted on a pro-Taliban Twitter account that has put out a lot of propaganda pro-Taliban.
Now, Bergdahl in this picture that you're looking at is seen with a top leader from the Haqqani Network. And the man -- the other man in the picture was actually killed by a drone strike in August 2012. So, we know that is at least that old.
But we don't know the context of the photo. And what we really don't know is whether this smile that you see here was natural or coerced. And we'll keep showing you this picture. You can make perhaps your own judgment on what you think.
But we're also learning tonight that the chairman of the Joint Chiefs Staff, all of them, unanimously supported the president's decision to trade Bowe Bergdahl in change for five Taliban commanders. After five years in captivity, Bergdahl returned to the United States nearly a month ago. His reintegration process is almost over. OUTFRONT tonight, Roy Hallums. He's an American contractor who was
kidnapped in Iraq in 2004, spent 311 days in captivity, in chains, in a small space underground, in the dark, went through horrific things that gives him a real sense of what might have happened to Bowe Bergdahl.
And, Roy, I want to start with this picture first. When you look at this picture, what do you think? There is Bowe Bergdahl smiling next to a Taliban leader.
ROY HALLUMS, AMERICAN HELD HOSTAGE IN IRAQ FOR 10 MONTHS: Well, when I see the picture to me it's completely staged. I mean, this Sergeant Bergdahl was being held hostage and everything he had every day depended on the hostage takers and possibly this man. I mean, whether he gets a drink of water, whether he gets to go to the bathroom, whether he gets food depends on everyone around him, not on him.
And I'm sure if they wanted to take a picture, that would be an easy thing to do.
BURNETT: Why, though, would they want him smiling in the photo? I mean, it seems like a lot of things that you see that come out of these hostage situations of the hostage looking afraid, miserable, trying to keep their calm and say what they're being told to say. Why would they want him looking happy and satisfied and smiling?
HALLUMS: Well, I think it's just part of the propaganda. They want to give the image to the world that they're treating him well when I'm sure they were not treating him well. I know when I was being held, there was a French reporter who was also kidnapped and held with me for about six months, and when she was being released, the sheikh who was the head of the gang told her -- well, be sure and write good things about us when you leave and tell the world that we treated you well.
And she was talking to me late at night and said, how could people think like that? You know, they had me tied up, they had me in a hole under the ground, yet they want me to write good things about them.
BURNETT: And, Roy, that's a pretty fascinating insight there. I mean, did -- were they ever asking you to pose or act in a certain way for pictures or videos or anything that they might release?
HALLUMS: Yes. In the video that I made, they messed my hair up, they wanted me to look sick because the gang that had me wanted $12 million for me. And they were trying to give the impression that I was sick and something was wrong with me so whoever might have the money would hurry up and give them the money before I was able to -- before I got more sick.
BURNETT: And you know, Bergdahl's almost done with his reintegration process sources are telling us here at CNN. There's still no indication he's talked to his parents. I've talked to people who know Bowe Bergdahl and know his parents and say he was indeed estranged from them when he was younger as he went into the military. I know from your experience, though, you talked to your family immediately after being rescued.
I mean, is there any reason you can think of at this point that he may not be ready to see his family yet?
HALLUMS: I can't think of a reason. That part surprises me because, as you said, the first thing I wanted to do was talk to my family and tell them I was rescued and I was doing OK. Why he might want to delay, I can't offer a suggestion on why he might want to do that.
BURNETT: I mean, I know it's hard to say. But the other thing that I found interesting, Roy, and I was curious as to your point of view in terms of the decisions you made to go back to what you were doing before. You know, sources are telling us Sergeant Bergdahl is expected to be assigned to a new unit shortly. Obviously, there'd be an investigation into the circumstances under his leaving the base that night.
But are you surprised given that and given what he has just endured that he would want to stay in the military?
HALLUMS: Yes, I was surprised when I first heard that. I thought he would probably get out of the military and go on to other things. It could be part of the legal process, I'm not sure that he won't be allowed to get out of the military until the investigation's finished. But it surprised me that he might want to stay, yes.
BURNETT: All right, thank you very much, Roy. I always appreciate talking to you. Thank you tonight.
HALLUMS: Thank you.
BURNETT: Well, John, Paul, George and Ringo, the Beatles in 1964 at the very height of Beatlemania. The photographs from that year are some of the most iconic images in terms of pop culture and music ever recorded. Tonight more than 50 years later, Harry Benson, the legendary photographer who took all of them while traveling around the world with a band, shares his memories on some of his favorite Beatlemania photos.
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HARRY BENSON, LEGENDARY PHOTOGRAPHER: In Paris, that's when Beatlemania started, no question about it. After being number one in America, all of a sudden, instead of a crowd around the hotel, there was now a big, big crowd around the hotel, every day and screaming.
I was on the same floor with them, and in the bedroom after the show, and Brian Epstein, the manager comes in to say, "We're number one in America." "I want to hold your hand." Happy, now, I've got happy Beatle.
So another half hour and he comes in again to say, "We're on 'The Ed Sullivan Show'. We're going to America. So I said to them, how about a pillow fight?" They said yes. Then, John said, "No, no, no. We're looking child -- we'll look childish. We've got the look more mature" and the others went, yes, yes, that's right. Anyway, Paul was sitting having a drink on a couch stretched out and
John comes up behind him with a pillow. Hits him in the back of the head, spills a drink. That started it.
I like pictures to be spontaneous. I like movement in my pictures. The Beatles having a pillow fight. You look twice at it because you look again just to see if they landed in a big heap, which they did.
You know, afterwards, I photographed The Who and a bit of the Stones and Michael Jackson and did a lot, but you know, after the Beatles, who wants to do Hall & Oates?
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BURNETT: All right, for more on the Beatles and the rest of the British invasion, catch CNN's Emmy-nominated series "The Sixties", tonight at 9:00.
Next OUTFRONT, shocking new details about the so-called killer call girl whose link to a Google executive's death and police are now asking if there's another death in this sordid tale.
And the man who wrote the book on surviving the bulls of Pamplona gored twice by a bull. Jeanne Moos has our story.
BURNETT: The high priced prostitute accused of injecting a Google executive with a lethal dose of heroin then left him to die may have struck before. Now, investigators are taking a closer look at the death of Alix Tichelman's former boyfriend. He apparently also died after a violent incident with Tichelman.
And Dan Simon has the story OUTFRONT.
DAN SIMON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: When Dean Riopelle died from a heroin overdose last September --
ALIX TICHELMAN, MODEL-TURNED-PROSTITUTE: My boyfriend overdosed or something. Like he's -- he won't respond.
SIMON: It appeared to be a tragic accident. His girlfriend made the call to 911.
DISPATCHER: OK. And why do you think it's an overdose?
TICHELMAN: Because I've got -- there's nothing else it could be.
DISPATCHER: OK, accidental or intentional?
TICHELMAN: I think definitely accidental, accidental.
SIMON: That was the story from Alix Tichelman and the case was closed, until police in California announced this week that the model- turned-prostitute had been arrested.
TICHELMAN: First, we start with the primer.
SIMON: The woman who gave makeup tips on YouTube charged in the death of Google executive Forrest Hayes, a 51-year-old father of five. Police say he, too, died of a lethal amount of heroin and they say it was given to him by Tichelman, the 26-year-old he met on seekingarrangement.com.
Georgia authorities reopened the Riopelle case because the circumstances were too similar to ignore.
CAPT. SHAWN MCCARTY, MILTON POLICE DEPARTMENT: The similarities are the deaths of the two men by heroin overdose and the common denominator being Ms. Tichelman. In both cases, the individuals seemed to have died from an overdose of what appears to be either first time in using heroin.
SIMON: The 53-year-old Riopelle owned a popular music venue. The two appeared to have had a volatile relationship. Police records reveal Tichelman was arrested and charged with battery last September, after she bit him on the right hand causing a tear in his finger. He died just weeks later.
Investigators say they're going to reexamine all the evidence including toxicology.
MCCARTY: Very suspicious. There's a lot of commonalities that cause us to take another look at his death investigation to make sure, again, that we didn't overlook anything.
SIMON: Tichelman moved to California working as a prostitute. She surfaced in Santa Cruz. In November, she joined Hayes on his yacht. Investigators say surveillance cameras show Tichelman doing absolutely nothing to help the distressed Hayes after injecting him with the heroin.
DEP. CHIEF STEVE CLARK, SANTA CRUZ POLICE DEPT.: She was so callous that in gathering her things she was literally stepping over the body.
SIMON (on camera): Tichelman has been charged with felony manslaughter in the case involving the Google executive. Bail has been set at $1.5 million. And her next court appearance is scheduled for July 16th -- Erin.
BURNETT: Dan, thank you. Pretty bizarre story.
Steve Clark, the deputy police chief of the Santa Cruz Police Department, is OUTFRONT.
And sir, we just saw you there calling the woman callous, describing how she was stepping over the Google executive who was dead and seemingly not caring at all. You've seen the surveillance from that Google executive's boat and you called it shocking. What exactly did you see?
CLARK: Well, what we saw in that video is we were able to essentially see everything, from the time that she arrived, up until the time that she departed the boat. It showed the interactions between the two of them. It showed her -- she shot up heroin first and then prepared another dose for Mr. Hayes and we saw her administer the dose to Mr. Hayes. We saw him immediately go into some kind of medical distress, and became unconscious and unresponsive, which was obvious to her.
At that point, she showed no concern for the condition of the victim in this case. She actually was more concerned about her own circumstances in getting out of that situation. She immediately started to walk around. She gathered all of her personal items. She cleaned up the drugs. She walked around with her glass of wine in her hand, as she stepped over the body a number of times and then eventually, she left the cabin of the boat.
BURNETT: And have you seen similarities between this particular situation and the death of her ex-boyfriend?
CLARK: Yes, absolutely. There is a lot of circumstances here that match up between the two cases, and it's very important for us to show that she's aware of the pattern of history, she's aware of the consequences when something like this occurs. She's aware of what her actions lead to.
You know, what's particularly shocking in this case, though, is just the glacial callousness and coldness that she showed to the victim in this particular circumstance. Alix Tichelman was also worried about Alix Tichelman. She wasn't worried about the condition of the victim or alerting authorities.
You know, we see that in her pattern of behavior between the information she's posted on her social media sites, and some of the things she did to try to conceal her actions after leaving the boat.
BURNETT: Do you think, I mean, her charges right now are felony manslaughter. Given what you're saying and how you're describing this and it could have happened multiple times, do you think she should be charged with murder?
CLARK: You know, we think we had enough information to warrant a second-degree murder charge with her, but, you know, that decision is really up to the district attorney to make. They are the ones who are going to have to present this case in court. They're the ones that have to convince a jury.
Our role in this is really to gather as much information as possible, do a good thorough investigation, get that information to them. At the end of the day, what we want is to discover the truth. We want to make the suspect accountable and we want to protect or victims of crime.
BURNETT: And you were actually able to track her down using the Web site seekingarrangements.com, which my understanding is sort of a Web site where women are looking for men who want to take care of women, take care of them, basically a financial arrangement. Prostitution by some names, others might say it's just people trying to find any way they can to get by.
Have you looked to see if any other men turned up dead that may have use that Web site?
CLARK: Well, our detectives are doing exactly that now. We're going back and trying to determine who her clients were. We're contacting those individuals and we're looking at her history, including anybody she might have had contact with in that scenario that you're talking about.
You know, this kind of a Web site really just produced a target rich environment for somebody like Alix Tichelman. And so, she took advantage of that.
You know, that's exactly how we contacted her after that. It was through that Web site. She vets her clients before hand. There was a number of back and many forth conversations with our detective that was posing as a client.
In fact, she went so far to force us to put $100 into her bank account before she would agree to meet with us.
BURNETT: Wow, all right, thank you very much. Steve Clark, the deputy police chief of the Santa Cruz Police Department.
And still OUTFRONT, an American survives being gored by a bull twice. That's pretty stupendous. Jeanne Moos is next.
BURNETT: An American gored by a bull. How did it happen? Here's Jeanne.
JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPODENT (voice-over): Buffalo Bill Hillman took the bull by its horns all right, right in his thigh.
(on camera): Are you on drugs?
BILL HILLMAN, GORED BY BULL: Yes, I'm on a lot of drugs. I think I'm on morphine.
MOOS (voice-over): That bull didn't just gore anyone, it gored one of the authors of "Fiesta: How to Survive the Bulls of Pamplona". Noted one commenter, "The bull is now writing a book:, How to gore a clown running in front of me on a street in Spain."
RTVE captured the moment, Bill wearing suspenders ran from the bull that got pushed by the guy behind him and then tripped on someone's foot.
HILLMAN: The horn entered on my inner thigh and exited on my outer thigh and pulled through. MOOS (on camera): Do you remember feeling it go in?
HILL: No, I didn't feel it all. I did -- when he lifted me, that's when I realized I was gored. It was actually very slow and kind of graceful to be lifted by a bull but it didn't hurt at all.
MOOS (voice-over): He was instantly in shock and didn't feel pain until he was put in an ambulance.
(on camera): Doctors told Bill the horn missed his femoral artery by about this much.
(voice-over): We spoke to Bill shortly after he had surgery to clean the wound.
HILLMAN: Sadly, it's part of the run, you know. All the great runners have been gored.
MOOS: This was the tenth year that Bill has joined in the running of the bulls.
People trip each other, the bulls trip over the people. The bulls trip over the bulls. They pull the bull's tail to get it away from runners who are down.
Chapter three of "How to Survive the Bulls of Pamplona" is full of tips like, if you fall down, stay down, instinct tells the bull to jump over debris.
Will Bill be making any auditions to the book?
HILLMAN: I think the book is solid and I think today was a situation where somebody pushed me and I fell over and I got gored.
MOOS: Bill's prognosis is good. Not the bulls, they always wind up dead by the end of the day. The animal that gored Bill got separated from the heard that sends a bull into attack mode. It trampled another guy after goring Bill.
Will the author be back for the rerunning of the bulls next year?
HILLMAN: I can't wait to get back on the street.
MOOS: Give that creature credit, the bull that gored Bill hit bullseye of irony .
Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.
BURNETT: Pretty incredible story. Bill, by the way, is writing his memoirs. He told Jeanne, I have to say, though, it always just bothers me and makes me sad that those bulls end up dying.
All right. Thanks for watching. Anderson starts now.