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Where is Heather Elvis?; Woman Confronts Alleged Abuser

Aired January 21, 2014 - 19:00:00   ET


JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST: Tonight it`s a race against time. A devastated South Carolina family desperately searching for their beautiful missing 20-year-old. Where is Heather Elvis?

Good evening, I`m Jane Velez-Mitchell, coming to you live.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Scared. I mean, really, really worried. You know, of course, everyone automatically starts dreading the words.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Twenty-year-old Heather Elvis, missing since December 18. Her car was found abandoned at a boat landing.

TERRY ELVIS, MISSING WOMAN`S FATHER: Days into this nightmare trying to find her. It`s hard. It`s very hard.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Heather Elvis vanished into thin air just over a month ago on December 18. She was last seen when she was dropped off at her apartment after a date with a friend from high school.

Now, according to police, Heather then called her friend, a female friend, and gushed about what a wonderful time she had on that date. That was the last time anyone heard from this beautiful young woman.

Well, the next day, cops found Heather`s car abandoned at a boat dock in Myrtle Beach about 8 miles from her apartment. But police say there were no signs of Heather in or near the water. And there were no obvious clues around her car, or in her car.

Her family, frantic, begging for the public`s help tonight.


ELVIS: No matter how small a tip it is, it can be of use. It may lead to what they need to know to bring Heather home. Because 17 days into this nightmare trying to find her, it`s hard. It`s very hard. So anyone, if you know anything, help us put this nightmare to bed. Please help us find our daughter.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: We`re going to talk to that father right now.

According to cops, Heather`s date from the night of her disappearance has been cleared. He is not a suspect. He`s apparently a friend from high school days. But could another man have been after Heather?

Straight out to the phone line, and my very special guest, Heather`s father, Terry Elvis.

Terry, I am very sorry for what you`re going through. I know this is a nightmare that you`re living. We want to help you find your daughter right now. We`ve got a team of experts, and some very smart viewers who are going to try to help us.

So she goes on a date. She comes home. She calls her friend about 3 in the morning. The next day, the cops find her car abandoned. And did they ever find her cell phone, sir? Is there any, any evidence of what may have happened to her?

ELVIS (via phone): Jane, they`ve looked everywhere for her purse and her cell phone. They`re still missing. They were not in the car.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Terry, tell me about your daughter. Because I understand that, first of all, she`s a beautiful, beautiful young woman. And we`re going to get to where she worked in a second.

But let`s talk about the tweets. Heather`s friends describe her as outgoing and a spitfire. Listen to this.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She`s a little spitfire. I mean, she definitely loved life. And she, you know, enjoyed hanging out with her friends.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Before Heather went missing, she was active on social media, including Tumblr, Facebook and Twitter. And Heather did tweet some things that we`re going to analyze tonight.

Here`s one tweet: "I`m in way too deep, but watch me get in deeper." OK. She tweeted that.

And then a few months later, she tweeted, quote, "Once upon a time an angel and a devil fell in love. It did not end well."

Now, according to police, Heather might have been involved with a 37- year-old man. This is not the person she went out on a date with, who is her same age, approximately.

According to some reports, sir, Heather was in contact with this older man, up until 6 a.m. on the day of her disappearance. Without naming names, because this person has not been named as a suspect, what do you know about this 37-year-old man, sir?

ELVIS: Well, I know that, according to police reports, and the phone records, she had been in contact with this person.


ELVIS: I`m not sure of the length of time that they had known each other.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Where did she meet him, and has he been in contact with authorities? Is -- is his whereabouts known?

ELVIS: His whereabouts is known. And they have -- the authorities have been in contact with him. I don`t know the extent. But I know that they did meet at one of Heather`s jobs.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Let`s get one more aspect of this story covered. And if you could stand by, sir, we really want you to stand by, and then we`ll bring in our experts.

Heather works at a restaurant called the Tilted Kilt. It is known for its food, drink, and also for the female servers` sexy outfits. Check out this commercial.




VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Heather`s a beautiful young woman.

I`ve got to go to Wendy Walsh, psychologist. You`ve covered so many of these cases. Could a customer have developed a scary infatuation? We called the restaurant, and they told us nobody was harassing her.

But Heather`s father mentioned that there`s this 37-year-old man. And we`re hearing there`s also a second man, a possible co-worker. No confirmation on that. And this man allegedly told Heather, quote, "If he - - if Heather hides, he will find her." What do you make of that?

WENDY WALSH, PSYCHOLOGIST: Ooh, that sure sounds like stalker language, doesn`t it, Jane?

Listen, these young girls who work in, you know, sexually provocative outfits and work into the wee hours of the night, where they`re serving alcohol to men, are in very vulnerable positions, to put it lightly.

When I read some of the reports, Jane, showing that this much older man whom she`d had a relationship with in the past, when he was interviewed, apparently, he told authorities that he only called her that night because he was telling her not to call him back anymore. Well, that raises a red flag for me. Because if you don`t want somebody to call you back, you don`t call them and especially in the middle of the night.

I think her great, exciting date with a peer, an old friend from college probably raised a few eyebrows and jealousy amongst somebody who had some kind of obsession with her.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wow. Jon Leiberman, you`ve been investigating. What have you learned?

JON LEIBERMAN, HLN CONTRIBUTOR: Well, look, the upside and any positive news we can report here is this: that police do have two names of these men. They have been in contact with these two men, and these two men are still in the area. And they are a focal point of this investigation. Now, of course, they haven`t been named publicly as suspects, or even persons of interest.

But that being said, police are keeping their eyes on them. They have been in regular contact with them. And in these cases, where many of them, you don`t have any leads at all. At least in this case, we do have phone records. We have names, and police are making progress, I am told.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now, I want to go back to Terry Elvis, the father of this beautiful woman, who is missing.

Sir, now, this man allegedly said to Heather, quote, "if she hides, he will find her." You`ve talked about a 37-year-old man. We have not identified him. We don`t want to identify this person either. But do you know about this second man, who apparently says that he would seek her out?

ELVIS: I was never given full information on who the second person is. I don`t have a name, and I don`t know anything about the investigation as far as that`s concerned.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Had your daughter ever talked to you about man troubles, about -- she`s a beautiful young woman working at this place where she`s -- you know, some have compared it to sort of like a Hooters restaurant. Because obviously, they hire attractive young women who dress in a sexy fashion.

There`s nothing wrong with that. I`m not in any way passing judgment. I`m just saying that that can create a situation where men come in, they get fixated on her. Or did she mention anything about either of these men to you ever?

ELVIS: She had never mentioned anything about being harassed or anything about either one of these men.

I was given quite a bit of information from her about the job. She would tell us that, after her shift was over, one of the managers would always walk the girls to their car.

Now it was in a shopping center, shopping area. So they would escort them back to the car to make sure they safely got into the car and had left the parking lot. That was standard procedure, from what I understand.

And she had never said anything about any type of harassment.

It wasn`t my first choice of job for her, of course. She`s my daughter, but she`s 20 years old, and she makes her own decisions. There was never any mention of any type of harassment, or any customer problems.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Let`s go to the phone lines. Susie, Pennsylvania, what are your thoughts?

CALLER: Well, I listen to you every night, Jane.


CALLER: And this has absolutely got to stop. These young women, being abducted, and not only young women, the babies and the children. When are people going to realize, there are predators out there? They are waiting for the advantageous moment when they can abduct someone.

And I pray that she is found safe. Because it just breaks my heart that this family is going through this. Whoever has her, let her go.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, no wiser words have ever been spoken. This beautiful young woman is missing, and we are going to do everything we can to find her.

We are just getting started. We`ve got a crucial photo that has just come in. We`re turning it around. Stay right there. We`re going to show you right on the other side. And more expert analysis.

And Terry Elvis, father, stay there. Together, hopefully we can have a break-through here and figure something out. Stay right there.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If your family was missing, you would want people to remember. You wouldn`t want them to be just brushed off. So I`m asking you to keep looking, because this is my family, and this is my sister. And she`s my other half, my better half. And I just want her home.



VELEZ-MITCHELL: Where is Heather Elvis? This beautiful 20-year-old is missing. She was in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, and has not been seen since December 18. Her car found the next day, December 19, several miles away in an area that is a boat dock area, OK?

So we`re looking at the Google maps there. We know that hundreds of people have been searching for her. Police doing everything they can.

Heather`s family, who they`ve joined us tonight, the father, to try to solve this, has upped the reward to $25,000. And I even read $30,000. They are desperate, desperate for clues to find their beautiful missing daughter.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If your family was missing, you`d want people to remember. You wouldn`t want it to just be brushed off. So I`m asking you to keep looking, because this is my family. And this is my sister. And she`s my other half, my better half. And I just want her home.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now, the last solid clue in this case was the discovery of Heather`s car about eight miles away from her apartment at a boat landing. And this is a new picture that is just in. I believe we just turned it around. Do we have it? Yes.

This is the photo that Heather sent to her father, literally the last night she was seen, during her date. She`s learning how to drive a stick shift. And this car, apparently belonging to her date, who has been exonerated. Look, she`s smiling; she looks happy.

Now, look, Terry, she sent this photo of herself?

ELVIS: She did, Jane. She sent it a little after 10 p.m. on the night of the date.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: So she goes home at about 2 a.m. At around 3 a.m. she calls her friend and is gushing about her date, who`s a friend from high school.

And her car is found the next day, about eight miles away at this landing. Did she ever go to this landing area? Would there have been any reason for her -- first of all, the day that the car was found, was that her day off? Was -- did she have any plans for that day?

ELVIS: I don`t know if it was her day off or not. I didn`t check her schedule. We had so much going on, trying to find where she was at, because her phone was going directly to voicemail.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, we don`t know whether she had any schedule for that day? In other words, her purse is missing. Her cell phone is missing.

So Marla Chicotsky, defense attorney, it`s not like she -- somebody came to her house and grabbed her in her pajamas. It would seem that -- well, maybe they did, and took her phone and her purse. Because those two key items are missing.

MARLA CHICOTSKY, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Yes, Jane. I think it`s very telling that we start looking at her cell phone. Because cell phone records have pings from ping towers. And you can see where someone`s location is. So I think this is the first step in the clues to find -- or track her last hours when she went missing. I think that cell phones are a very huge key now in the media, and to find and locate missing people.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, Jon Leiberman, let me ask you about that. They didn`t find her cell phone. But of course, you can go to the phone records and find out when that cell phone last pinged, and we know she was talking on a phone at 3 in the morning.

So whatever happened after 3 in the morning, any activity after that has got to be very significant. And if there`s no activity, that could mean that whatever happened -- you know, my question is, did she get up the next day and walk out and something bad happened to her outside where she was shopping? Or did something happen that night in the wee hours of the morning, where somebody comes to the apartment and is -- you know what? Let me go back to the dad for a second. Was there any sign of forced entry, sir?

ELVIS: No, ma`am. There was no sign of forced entry.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Jon Leiberman, go ahead.

LEIBERMAN: Yes, Jane, one thing police are strongly looking at is Heather`s social media footprint, as well. There were some very mysterious postings to her Tumblr account around 3 a.m., 4 a.m. in the morning. Police are honing in on those, as well.

So when you look at the social media postings, the mysterious ones, the cell-phone records, the communications with these two men, police are putting together the puzzle right now. And of course, trying to answer the mystery of where is Heather?

Also, they`re looking at the scenario, did she go and meet somebody, and that`s where she could have potentially met with foul play?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: At 3 or 4 in the morning? That...

LEIBERMAN: Yes. Was she lured -- was she lured out to meet somebody during those hours?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Let`s go to the phone lines. Jay, Maryland. Jay, Maryland, what do you have to say?

CALLER: Yes. How are you doing? My question was pretty much what the guys said, the two suspects of interest, I wondered if they checked their phones to see if there was a tower in that area that got strong pings off their cell phones?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, that`s an excellent point. Terry Elvis, father of missing Heather Elvis. Did authorities tell you -- they know who these people are. They know where those two men are. Have they checked their cell phones to find out what their whereabouts were? Have they alibis for that hour? Or do they not know whether they might have been in contact with your daughter?

ELVIS: Unfortunately, it`s a very active investigation. That information wouldn`t be given to me, being the father. And that wouldn`t be generally released to the general public either. I don`t have access to that information.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Do the police sound hopeful? I mean, according to the wire copies, they`re saying no evidence of foul play, which I find crazy. Every time I cover these cases, I`m like, this is foul play. She has no history of running away. She`s not just going to pick up after going on a date where she`s all happy and bubbly and sending her dad photos of herself learning how to drive a stick shift and disappear into the night on her own. Of course not, Wendy Walsh.

WALSH: No, there`s definitely some foul play here. And although we want to hold out hope as long as possible, Jane, it`s very important to do that.

I also -- you know, when we`re trying to solve these things, we should still think like a criminal to try to imagine what could have happened. And I will say that, if I were going to kidnap someone and potentially murder them, the first thing I would do is keep their cell phone, and then when I got to a place and time where my whereabouts were purely recognizable, I would put things on their social media.

So those suspicious, mysterious postings on her social media could have been done by the person who snagged her.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, I certainly hope that, A, she`s OK, and that she will be found safe and sound.

Terry, our hearts go out to you. We want to stay on top of this story. Please, call us with any updates, and we will bring that to our viewers. And I hope authorities are tracking down who are --- who`s the individual, what computer did it come from, or phone, those late-night mystery postings.

Tonight, we`re talking about another young woman, a brave young woman who did something extraordinary, and basically proved that -- she was attacked by a teacher, raped by a teacher, she says, when she was just 12 years old. And she used her cell phone in an ingenious way to flush out her suspect. Stay right there.


JAMIE CARRILLO, ACCUSED TEACHER OF SEXUAL ABUSE: You should be so ashamed and so disgusted with yourself.






NANCY GRACE, HLN ANCHOR: This is so profound, and this means so much to crime victims.

CARRILLO: You realize that you brainwashed me and you manipulated me? And that what you did was wrong?


CARRILLO: The reason why I wanted to do this was to expose her for what she really was, and to protect other kids.

You ruined my life. You ruined my childhood. Do you realize that?



VELEZ-MITCHELL: The world is cheering tonight as word spreads of an alleged sexual abuse victim fighting back, using her phone and YouTube and a camera.

Jamie Carrillo finally worked up the courage to confront the female teacher she says sexually abused her, starting when she was just 12 years old.

In a brilliant, gutsy move, she called that woman with a camera rolling, and then took the video of their conversation, incriminating as it was, and put it on YouTube.

You know, it took Jamie a decade to really process this molestation she says she endured as a child. Jamie says she was only 12 years old when her female basketball coach kissed her in the locker room. Over the next six years, she says the molestation just continued, on and off. The coach took Jamie on trips out of town, so the two could have sex, she says. The relationship, if you can call it that, finally ended when Jamie was 18.

Well, she`s now 28, and she said she`s finally ready to confront her abuser. But she realized the statute of limitations has run out, so Jamie took justice into her own hands. Check it out.


CARRILLO: So what happens when a student comes in and says that they`re having sexual relations -- a sexual relationship with a teacher?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Then I would involve law enforcement.

CARRILLO: So how is that any different from what you did when I was at Chihuahua Middle?


CARRILLO: So why are you excluded from the law? I mean, why did you do that? Why -- I was only 12 years old when I met you.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wow. Calling her abuser, the woman she says sexually abused her, and videotaping it and then posting the incriminating answers on YouTube. Brilliant.

Since that video was posted four days ago, it`s been watched more than 400,000 times.

Now, here`s the sad part. Cops won`t be able to use the video prosecute the alleged abuser, because it`s illegal to record a conversation with somebody in California without their consent.

Jamie named the teacher in the video. We cannot tell you that woman`s name.

Straight out to the Lion`s Den. And I`ve got to start with Heidi -- Heidi Damon, a sexual assault survivor. You also courageously confronted your attacker in court. You`re talking to us from North Carolina. Your reaction to this bold move, which some say is public shaming. But hey.

HEIDI DAMON, SEXUAL ASSAULT SURVIVOR (via phone): Hi, Jane. Thank you again.

Yes, you know, I don`t look at it as public shaming. I think it`s making the public aware that we really need to crack down on, you know, paying attention to, you know, where our kids are, what our teachers are doing. You know, these people who are, you know, coming out of the woodwork.

I think that it`s because of children -- you know, their brain is still developing. You know, I am so proud of her. I think it was genius, as you alluded to, that she came on a YouTube video with her phone, you know, used that as a tool to, you know, make it public that, "Hey, look, this is really legitimate. This is really happening. I`m really doing this. I really was assaulted and molested as a child."

And, you know, it just -- it made me so mad when I heard this, first of all, because I`m thinking, here we go, another teacher. Another teacher. And to hear the assistant principal now, she was -- she didn`t sound remorseful. She didn`t sound bothered by Jamie`s call, or by Jamie`s pain. And, you know, to be honest with you...


DAMON: ... I`m hoping that...


DAMON: Go ahead. I`m hoping that Jamie, you know, moves forward and works on getting these statutes of limitations in every single state removed.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, yes, I want to get to that in a second. Because yes, we`re going to talk about the fact that she said she can`t really prosecute.

Jamie says she posted this video because she wanted to get justice. Listen again to more of this conversation. Extraordinary. She calls the woman she says raped her, and she has a conversation where the person on the other end of the line admits, yes, basically. Listen.


CARRILLO: You know that I am completely messed up, that I have so many issues because of you?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just wanted to help you.

CARRILLO: How is having a sexual relationship with a 12-year-old student helping?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It wasn`t anything I intended. I don`t even know what happened.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wendy Walsh, psychologist, "I wanted to help you"? Are you kidding me?

WALSH: Well, obviously, she`s using all the rationalizations that someone, you know, needs to use to be that kind of perpetrator.

But you know, some people are a little sick in the head, Jane, and they get confused that an adolescent is still a child, is not an adult. And they can`t make decisions for themselves.

And they tend to prey on students who may not have strong families to support them. Apparently, this coach had told the student, "Your family doesn`t love you. I`m the only one that really loves you." And sending a lot of mixed messages.

But Jane, can we please talk about statutes of limitations? This is amazing. How did we convict Jerry Sandusky from all those years ago? And this week, poor little girl can`t get her day in court.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. Well, I want to talk about that. And you know, Nancy Grace is talking about that as well, because Jamie is over the age of 26, and it`s been more than three years since this abuse occurred. The statute of limitations has allegedly purportedly expired. But Nancy Grace actually hopes that there may be a way around it. Listen to Nancy weigh in on that.


NANCY GRACE, HLN HOST: I`m just wondering if some emotional defense could apply, that says she was not able to confront or speak of the molestation until now. And can we get a totaling of the statute under some kind of emotional duress argument, or mental defect argument. It`s very, very possible, I think. I`m not through with this case.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Marla Chicotsky, defense attorney, is there a way around the statute of limitations?

MARLA CHICOTSKY, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Jane, I really don`t think that`s going to happen in this case, unfortunately for the victim. I think in this case, she`s 28 years old. She`s had more than enough time -- more than enough time after being an adolescent, after age of 18, to grasp what had happened to her during her childhood.

I also think that she should have involved law enforcement when she wiretapped the teacher. Now that evidence is inadmissible in court. It`s illegal. It`s against the wiretapping statute.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, let me say this. It takes people many years to come to grips with this kind of thing. When they`re children, they get confused, they think it`s love, they think this is their only friend, they`re believing in the brainwashing. And as they grow up and they realize it`s affected their personal relationships as adults, they start to realize, oh, my god, I was a victim.

It`s a whole process that can take ten years easily. So I think the statute of limitations need to be thrown out the window when it comes to something like this. There are so many of these predators out there who have not been prosecuted. You know who you are.

Nancy Grace will have more on this story. Stay tuned for that, top of the hour right here on HLN.

And on the other side, we are being inundated with Twitter and Facebook. The world is rising up and saying, "Stop the slaughter." We`ve got a live report in Japan from a friend of mine who used to be my next door neighbor in California who was a nurse, and who left her life in California, to move there, to try to find justice for these animals. She`s watching this. She`s going to talk to us on the other side.

Stay right there. We can do it together.


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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, that Justin Bieber`s going back to Canada.

JIMMY FALLON, TALK SHOW HOST: -- for throwing eggs at a house. Makes total sense.

JIMMY KIMMEL, TALK SHOW HOST: He throws Faberge eggs only.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s weird how he`s going back to pranks from 1950.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He`ll be back there doing the weird --

CONAN O`BRIEN, TALK SHOW HOST: It`s been called the most pointless use of an egg since the fertilization of Justin Bieber.

JAY LENO, TALK SHOW HOST: I can remember when the worst thing he did was make music. Remember -- what happened?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know what Canadians right now are like, you know, we`ve got the mayor of Toronto. We`ve got enough going on.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight, Hollywood`s bad boy, is he on the brink of disaster? TMZ said Justin Bieber went wild last night, dropping $75,000 in one-dollar bills at strippers. The 19-year-old punk flew to Miami for Lil Scrappy`s birthday party, at the Kind of Diamond Strip Club. The club had a field day posting about their famous, famous, famous guest, dropping dollar after dollar. Where? I don`t know if we can tell you.

Check this Instagram video out from last night.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I advise you to stay clear of the stage. (EXPLETIVE DELETED).


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, that`s not the way to prove you`re a man, Justin. He should be staying far away from these raunchy places. You are under felony investigation, for hurling over a dozen eggs at your neighbor`s house reportedly causing $20,000 in damage.

Cops swarmed his mansion looking for video or text message evidence of Bieber bragging, text high five, referring to the egg throwing incident. Instead, cops arrested his friend, Lil Za. Yes, there`s the young African- American male getting arrested.

Did he take the fall for the Biebs? Straight out to RadarOnline`s Jen Heger. Jen -- Bieber, he`s facing felony vandalism, which could land him in jail for a while. So he decides, oh, you know, my friend Lil Za is arrested because cops say they found drugs believed to be Molly or Ecstasy, and Xanax in his house. So I`m going to go to a strip club and throw $100 bills at strippers. Are you kidding me?

JEN HEGER, RADARONLINE: I mean clearly, you know, as you said, Justin Bieber is completely out of control, as broke the story. His friends and family and advisers have been urging him to go to rehab. After being told he needs to go to rehab, what does he do? He got on a private jet, first went to Colorado, where he urinated in the snow in his initials, took a picture of it and it went viral. And then of course, last night, he went and spent $75,000 on strippers in a club in Miami.

Clearly this is a young man out of control, needing guidance. I know that law enforcement and the district attorney`s office here in Los Angeles very much wants to talk to him about the egg-throwing incident. Yet he`s made himself unavailable.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, look, Lil Za was arrested and he has tweeted, Kelli Zink, quote, "Honestly the media is making me something I`m not, but only those in my shoes can relate. These people get paid to make you look bad. Some stuff I`ve done has been wrong, yes. But look at the position I`m in and the color of my skin. Cocaine -- really? All this time I was at home in Texas, nobody gave a bleep about what Za was doing as soon as he gets to L.A. he`s all over the news."

Kelli Zink, the implication there, even though they decided it`s probably Ecstasy, not cocaine, is that he`s taking the fall for Justin Bieber because of the color of his skin.

KELLI ZINK, HOST, CELEBTV.COM: Well, that`s ridiculous. I also think it`s ridiculous that we`re really going after Justin Bieber and saying his behavior is crazy and he needs rehab. He`s 19 years old. What were we doing at 19 years old? Who knows?

He`s got unlimited resources. His mother while he`s present and she`s a great mom. She still gives him a little bit of leeway so that he doesn`t pull away from her. He`s a young kid doing his thing.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wait, You`re saying it`s ok to urinate your initials in the snow, and throw $75,000 in one-dollar bills at women who are gyrating on the floor in front of you?

ZINK: He`s not having sex with prostitutes that we know. And he`s going to the bathroom in the snow. It could be worse. He`s not murdering people. I mean give the kid a break.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Give the kid a break? Well, that`s what I call permissive parenting. Wow.

All right. Kelli Zink, we`ll agree to disagree. Thank you for joining us. Wow. My head`s spinning.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Robin Meade sits down with some of the biggest names in music to give you a behind-the-scenes of the biggest night in music. By the way, thanks Jen Heger of RadarOnline for coming. This is Backstage Express with Robin Meade Thursday night, 6:00 p.m. Eastern on HLN. You`ve got to check it out.


ROBIN MEADE, HLN HOST: I think of you as not only a great baritone singer that we are familiar with. But I think of you as a prolific writer. And here we are going to the Grammys with a song you didn`t write.

DARIUS RUCKER, SINGER: I know. I know. But that`s cool. Especially with a song like "Wagon Wheel" -- I`m a huge Old Crow Medicine fan, I`ve loved those guys for years. And I heard "Wagon Wheel" before. But I had - - it`s such a bluegrass song and I never thought about cutting it.

And then I`m at my daughter`s high school talent show. And the teachers get up and I started playing "Wagon Wheel", they got drums and a slide guitar and every thing. I`m like, man, that`s really country; I never thought of it that way. And before they were done, I was texting with my producer. We`ve got to cut "Wagon Wheel".

MEADE: Yes. But don`t you do that for a lot of songs? You listen to it and go, that will be good. Let me put that in my back pocket for a while?

RUCKER: Yes, but I never cut them. I do that all the time, but I never cut them.



VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight, breaking news on a story that you, the viewer, has demanded we cover, flooding our Twitter and Facebook. And we`re doing it. World outrage escalating as we get the gut wrenching news just now that yet another dolphin hunt has just begun in Taiji, Japan that is horrifying and barbaric.

The water is still blood red from the slaughter that just ended hours ago. In a second, a live report from the infamous cove in Taiji, Japan where animal activists are risking their lives to tell the world what they`re seeing and what you can do to stop it.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Japanese divers wrestle with bottle-nosed dolphins, selecting some to be sold into captivity, others to be killed for meat.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`m kind of shocked that it`s still going on, especially after "The Cove" and this film "BLACKFISH" that just came out.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And as long as people keep buying tickets to dolphin shows, this is going to keep happening. You have the power to stop this.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Look at these mammals -- twitching there in death. The world first learned of the slaughter, thanks to the academy award winner`s "The Cove" a searing movie about the slaughter of the dolphins in Taiji, Japan. Pods pillaged to supply dolphin hostages to theme parks and aquariums around the world.

Now almost four years later the world has risen up in outrage as live feeds of the slaughter in progress are broadcast by the animal activist group Sea Shepherd.

Tonight the death toll is in from Sea Shepherd. At least 41 dolphins slaughtered, 52 kidnapped into captivity to be sold to the highest bidder. But more hunting is under way. Among the captives this angelic albino ripped from her mother who reportedly committed suicide as her calf was taken away -- the mother never surfacing.

We`re going to show you Angel, she`s an albino dolphin. You`ll see her there in the midst -- there she is -- the beautiful white albino dolphin. She could be sold for some say $500,000.

Tonight, from the cove in Taiji, Japan, Sea Shepherd`s Melissa Sehgal, reporting live. You are there at the cove. You`ve witnessed the atrocities of a few hours ago. What is the latest about this new hunt that we`re hearing is going on?

MELISSA SEHGAL, SEA SHEPHERD: Hi, Jane. Well, most people are thinking that the slaughter has ended. We still have six weeks of the killing season left. This goes on for the month of September through March. The killing boats have gone out to sea now and are currently hunting for more dolphins and whales at this time.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I see these animals just twitching, twitching, in terror on these boats. I can`t even imagine. This is hellish. We`ve got to tell you, thanks to films like "The Cove" from Lionsgate, the world is galvanizing behind the issue of animal rights.

And I want to go to the increasing prominence of serious animal theme films like "The Cove" and "BLACKFISH." And I would like to introduce you to a groundbreaking new news organization called And we do have a web roll for you.

It is staffed by a team of top-flight journalists and backed by people associated with the "Huffington Post" and Buzz feed. focuses on animals and animal rights controversies. Their top story tonight is the slaughter in the cove.

Straight out to Kerry Lauerman,`s editor in chief, what is your breaking news story tonight Kerry?

KERRY LAUERMAN, THEDODO.COM: Well, you`ve scooped us to a certain extent. It is that the dolphin hunters have gone back out to try to round up more dolphins into the Taiji cove after just finishing the last slaughter this morning in the early morning hours of this morning.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I have to tell you something. Your new website the is, along with "BLACKFISH" and "The Cove" and this global outrage marking a turning point in animal rights. We have crossed the tipping point, it`s now mainstream. I predict it will become the social justice movement of the 21st century. You are right here as it is beginning and hitting the mainstream. This is a start.

And on the other side, we`re going to talk about what we as a community of animal lovers can do to stop this obscenity.



UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They are totally freaked out, stressed out to the max.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: That was "The Cove", the Oscar winner.

Now in a bold move the U.S. ambassador to Japan, Caroline Kennedy, has tweeted her opposition to the hunt. John Lennon`s widow, Yoko Ono, who is Japanese, has urged the fishermen of Taiji to stop what she calls the celebration of killing or risk the children of the world hating Japan. Virgin Airline mogul Richard Branson tweeting out against the hunt.

There are dozens of petitions. Ric O`Barry of the Dolphin Project is the Japanese government hearing this?

RIC O`BARRY, DOLPHIN PROJECT: Yes, they are. In the last several days now, this is getting worldwide attention, and we have some momentum here. We have a chance to stop this.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, that`s what I want to know. What can we do? I want to go back to Kerry Lauerman, editor-in-chief of The Dodo. You have a groundbreaking new news organization devoted to animal issues. How does the world coalesce to stand up and say, "enough"?

LAUERMAN: Well, one of the biggest things that they can do is happening right now. The sort of surge social media attention around this issue has really been amazing and groundbreaking. Starting from Friday when this particular hunt began through Sunday, there was almost a media blackout here. There was very little coverage.

CNN and HLN did a fair amount of coverage, The Dodo did a lot of coverage, but it was surprisingly little coverage in the mainstream newspapers. That changed -- that started to begin to change mid-Sunday, and particularly today, after Kennedy`s announcement.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I want to say, I applaud you, Join. Let`s be part of this community that can change the world. Then the mainstream media will follow CNN and HLN.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: If you`re outraged about the dolphin hunt, join Sea Shepherd. Go to this new news organization They have everything you could do to stop the dolphin hunt, where to write to the Japanese embassy. Together we could change it.

Nancy Grace next with breaking news on a search for a missing boy.