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Weiner`s Sexting Partner Member of Sugar Daddies Site; Weiner Staying in Mayoral Race; Weiner`s Wife Blames Herself; Go Daddy Extra Stars in Documentary; Interview with Star of `Sharknado`; `Real Housewives of New Jersey` Star Arrested on Fraud Charges

Aired July 31, 2013 - 23:00:00   ET


A.J. HAMMER, HOST: Tonight on the "SHOWBIZ Countdown," today`s top three "Weiner Wows."


STAR JONES, MEDIA PERSONALITY: You know, he`s one tick away from being just a complete perv, to be honest with you.


HAMMER: Star Jones slams Anthony Weiner over his sexting scandal. But that`s just one of tonight`s "Weiner Wows." What could No. 1 be?

And it`s a "SHOWBIZ Reality Check." "Real Housewives of New Jersey" stars Teresa and Joe Giudice in the throes of a legal mess. But is their reality TV fame really to blame for all their troubles?

SHOWBIZ TONIGHT starts right now.

Hello. I`m A.J. Hammer. Thank you for watching.

And tonight on the SHOWBIZ Countdown, we are counting down today`s top three "Weiner Wows." And let me tell you, it wasn`t easy at all narrowing this down to just three.

Let`s kick off our countdown with No. 3, the startling new revelations today about Sydney Leathers. She is, of course, the 23-year-old woman who was sexting with Anthony Weiner.

And we learned today that Leathers belonged to the sugar daddy Web site called And yes, that is a place that helps older men hook up with younger women. For a price, of course. Leathers basically acknowledged that she was sweet on sugar daddies when she spoke with Howard Stern on Sirius XM.


SYDNEY LEATHERS, SEXTED WITH ANTHONY WEINER: There are men that I`ve never even met that would help me out.

HOWARD STERN, SIRIUS XM RADIO HOST: I`ve heard of this thing. They don`t get sex from you?


STERN: Nothing?

LEATHERS: Nothing.

STERN: You never had to put out for a sugar daddy?

LEATHERS: No, I only did if I really wanted to.

STERN: Right.

LEATHERS: If there was some guy that I was really attracted to that wasn`t like an old-ass man...

STERN: Right.

LEATHERS: ... sure, I would if I wanted to. But yes, I would have guys that I never even met that would send me a grand for bills or just random stuff.


HAMMER: Wow. Really? Random stuff. I can`t imagine what that could possibly be.

Let`s have Jenny Hutt help us out. She, of course, has her own show on Sirius XM called "Just Jenny." You of course, know Alex McCord from her time starring on "The Real Housewives of New York."

Jenny, beginning with you, Weiner`s sexting partner right there actually bragging about using men to pay her bills and having sex with some of them, I guess.


HAMMER: What does this all say to you about this young woman?

HUTT: It says...

HAMMER: She`s not even 25.

HUTT: Yes, it says let`s legalize prostitution and make it all OK. I mean, it says she`s just not a great girl, like he`s not a great guy.

The whole -- the whole story reeks of a lot of kind of ookie things, A.J. I don`t think either one of them were really -- she`s not innocent. So she was complicit. And he was probably the aggressor. And as we`ve seen, she`s not the only one, and she was certainly game for it. I don`t feel that she got taken in any way.

HAMMER: Alex, I was watching your reaction about the whole sugar daddy thing. You didn`t seem surprised at all.

ALEX MCCORD, REALITY TV STAR: No, I mean, there are girls out there that do this. Honestly. I wasn`t surprised at all to see the Seeking Arrangement thing and that she`s been doing this over and over again. I mean, they can be Democrats, too. I predict that next up for her is a sex tape and a contract with Vivid.

HUTT: Yes, well, she said -- she said that`s on the table. She said it`s amazing.

HAMMER: We confirmed that the offer is definitely out there. But look, she judges. She doesn`t think very highly of her sugar daddies or Anthony Weiner, for that matter. Let`s listen to what she told Howard Stern about that.


STERN: They go on the Web site, like the sugar daddy Web site...


STERN: ... and they see a picture of you, and they say, "Hey, I want to be your sugar daddy. Here`s 1,000 bucks."

LEATHERS: Yes. Like what do you need? You know, what`s going on with your life?

And I say, "Oh, you know, I need a little help with rent. Or I need to get my car fixed."

STERN: You`re kidding.

LEATHERS: Yes. It`s so easy.

STERN: No sex, no phone sex, nothing?

LEATHERS: Nothing. There was one guy that I strung along with pictures for a while...

STERN: Right.

LEATHERS: ... which was so easy. I kind of made him think that I would sleep with him and then never actually did.

STERN: So don`t you think that Anthony Weiner in a way is like the sugar daddy type? Like you know?

LEATHERS: Yes, totally. I feel like if I would have asked him for things he would have been totally down with it.


HAMMER: Totally. Totally. All right. Leathers seems to be convinced that she`d be able to get Weiner to pay her bills if she wanted to. Now Jenny, I can tell you quite happily I`m not familiar with this whole scene. Not my scene.

HUTT: You`re not a sugar daddy, A.J.?

HAMMER: No, not yet.

HUTT: Oh, my goodness.

HAMMER: It doesn`t sound far-fetched to me, though, that she might have been able to get him to perhaps pay her bills: her telephone bills or automobile bills.

HUTT: Here`s what I think. She did say in the other clip that there were some that she did actually engage in sexual activity with. So which is the truth? She never did or she sometimes did?

And I`m fairly certain that there was a quick pro-quo exchange of some sort of photographs for some sort of money. So this is not just guys saying, "Let me send you a grand, Sweet Pea, because you have a really nice voice."

MCCORD: Yes. No, they`ve got to be getting something for their money.

HUTT: I`ll say something.

MCCORD: Right. Conversation.

HUTT: Oh, yes.

MCCORD: Pictures. Something.

HUTT: Is that what they`re calling it? Conversation?

MCCORD: Conversation, yes. Well, of the X-rated nature.

HAMMER: Call it what you will.

It is certainly impossible to say Anthony Weiner`s name or just Weiner`s name without some kind of double entendre coming up.

MCCORD: I just want to have -- I want to have a Weiner roast, the big stick.

HAMMER: There you go. OK. All right. Thank you for that.

Let`s just get to No. 2 on this very topic of our countdown of today`s "Weiner Wows." It`s Weiner sticking it out. There I said it.

Let me show you this. It`s a schmaltzy new campaign video Weiner just put out, so to speak. He vows in this thing to stay in the race for New York City mayor, even tries to sound uplifting in his message. Quite frankly, and I think you might agree with me, I think he just ended sounding even more detached from reality than ever. Let us watch this.


ANTHONY WEINER, NYC MAYORAL CANDIDATE: You know, sometimes people say to me, "This campaign is pretty rough. You may want to quit." They don`t know New York. You don`t know me. Quit isn`t the way we roll in New York City. We fight through tough things. We are a tough city. There are people all around New York City who get up with a pretty tough day ahead of them, and they don`t quit.


HAMMER: Of all the self-aggrandizing things to say. I mean, Jenny, on a delusional scale, let`s say, pick a number from one to ten. I mean, where is this man?

HUTT: Yes, 200.


HUTT: He is so over-the-top grandiose. He is so not getting at all how he`s the one who`s caused his tough day, if you will. And I think what`s going to be the toughest part of his day is his inability to sext.

MCCORD: Well, and the thing is, he just said he`s not a quitter. So that means he`s never, ever, ever going to quit sexting.

HUTT: Right.


HUTT: That`s right.

HAMMER: He put it all out there.

HUTT: He`s got to sext.

HAMMER: To that very point I think Star Jones was dead on when she went off on Weiner. You have got to hear what she just told Piers Morgan on CNN`s "PIERS MORGAN LIVE."


JONES: Don`t put yourself in a category of people like our first responders who don`t know how to quit. Don`t put yourself in a category of people who show up and go to your house when it`s on fire, to police officers, to teachers who are there in the schools and neighborhoods that no one wants to walk through. Those are the New Yorkers that don`t quit, not these ones that don`t know when it`s time to say good-bye and go.

That annoys me. That sort of -- that arrogance. That master of the universe mentality.


HAMMER: I can`t believe I agree with Star here, but Alex, Star is absolutely dead on. Weiner`s arrogance is mind-boggling here.

MCCORD: Yes, I mean, after seeing that clip, I think Star Jones should run for mayor.

HUTT: Yes, I think Star has it right on. I think -- I think Anthony Weiner is -- like you said, A.J., before, the guy is so far gone and so delusional, he has no idea which end is up.

HAMMER: So of all of the "Weiner Wows" today, you`ve got to wonder what is No. 1 on our "SHOWBIZ Countdown"? You`re not going to believe who his wife is reportedly blaming for his falling off the sexting wagon. She`s blaming herself. At least in part.

Now "People" magazine reported today that, according to Huma`s friends, she feels partially responsible, because she was too focused on their newborn son and stopped going to regular counseling.

She also said that she`s staying with him in part because of her strict Muslim upbringing, frowning on divorce. And also that most of Huma`s family wants her to stay in the marriage. Most of her friends, including Bill and Hillary Clinton, want her to dump him.

Alex, I don`t think I`m going out on a limb here by thinking that you think that Huma blaming herself is just completely ridiculous.

MCCORD: I think it`s beyond crazy. She`s more delusional than he is blaming herself. She`s got to get out.

She let her own career take the back burner to his. She backed the wrong horse. She needs to divorce him and go work for Hillary and get her own job and own life.

HUTT: Yes, but look, I`m not a big fan of blaming the wife either; however, I -- and all kidding aside, I do believe in a marriage there are two people. And yes, he`s got an unbelievable problem and ew and ick and gross. But I`m sure she might feel that as a wife, she wasn`t so wifely and I get that.

Do I really think it`s her fault? Of course not. Do I think that she`s sitting in the position of maybe I could have done something? Sure. I`m not sure there`s a wife on the planet who doesn`t fell she can do more for her man.

MCCORD: That`s a good point. But still, I think that after doing that soul searching, really, it`s on him, not her.

HAMMER: This isn`t her fault (ph). There`s no possible way. All right. Alex, Jenny, thank you both so much.

HUTT: Thank you.

MCCORD: Thanks.

HAMMER: Tonight we are taking the "SHOWBIZ Reality Check." "Real Housewives of New Jersey" stars Teresa and Joe Giudice are in a whole heap of legal trouble. They`re facing 30 years behind bars on fraud charges. But is their reality TV fame really to blame for all their troubles? I mean, come on.

And that isn`t the only big storm brewing.


IAN ZIERING, ACTOR: The storm is coming, and it`s coming fast.

Just can`t sit back and watch this.

Can`t just wait here with sharks raining down on us.


HAMMER: "Sharknado`s" secrets. Two million people are hooked, and the wild sci-fi TV movie is still wreaking havoc everywhere. The movie`s mega hit status is taking its stars by storm, too. "SHOWBIZ Newsmaker," "Sharknado" star Ian Ziering, right here, ready to reveal behind-the-scenes secrets for the sequel.

Plus, we`ve got to dish on his "90210" reunion. What`s up with that? And a new gig as a Chippendales dancer?



HAMMER: Now on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, "Geico`s 15 Minutes of Fame."


DANICA PATRICK, RACECAR DRIVER: There are two sides to Go Daddy. There`s the sexy side represented by Bar Rafaeli. And the smart side that creates killer Web sites for your small business, represented by Walter. Together they`re perfect.


HAMMER: Who could possibly forget this classic Super Bowl ad? It`s for and stars racecar driver Danica Patrick, supermodel Bar Rafaeli and yes, that guy, Jesse Heiman.

He is now starring in a brand-new documentary about his life. I love it when the geek not only gets the girl but actually gets a shot at real stardom.

Jesse Heiman is hoping to turn his 15 minutes of fame from that Go Daddy ad into a career as big as Hollywood can possibly make it. And he`s already one step closer with his new documentary. It`s "World`s Greatest Extra." Jesse is joining me now from Hollywood. Great seeing you again, Jesse.

JESSE HEIMAN, ACTOR: Hi. How are you? Thank you for having me back.

HAMMER: Absolutely. I just love any opportunity to look at this ad. We haven`t seen it in so long.

So here you go, Jesse. From kissing Bar Rafaeli in the Super Bowl ad to now a documentary about you? Tell me about this thing.

HEIMAN: Well, it`s a great project and opportunity for me. The directors and producers came to me with this idea of following me from my overnight success from the Go Daddy commercial and seeing what it takes to become a leading man in Hollywood, and that`s definitely something I`m interested in pursuing in, with the opportunities that I`ve gotten since the Super Bowl ad.

I`ve been in a movie called "Townies." That`s with James -- with Seth Rogan and Zach Efron coming out next year. I`ve got a James Franco movie that I starred in, opposite him, called "As I Lay Dying" that debuted at Cannes this year.

So I`ve got a lot of great opportunities going on. And this is an opportunity for the fans to check out how -- how this all -- the whole process works.

HAMMER: You`re like an unstoppable rocket ship, man. And I know finishing the documentary right now is a huge priority. The producers have launched this Kickstarter campaign for a month, trying to raise all the money they need to finish it, which is important, obviously. I did check earlier today and saw a little over 20 grand pledged so far. The goal is to raise about 65 grand by August 3.

Tell us why this documentary will be the ticket, beyond everything you`ve experienced, that will actually shoot you into that Hollywood stratosphere, Jesse.

HEIMAN: Well, I think it will only take me to the next level. We have the opportunity to take it to Sundance and take it to other festivals and really get me out there, you know, networking with the other stars and other producers and people that really get things done here in Hollywood. And I really look forward to the audience seeing, really, what it takes, the behind-the-scenes, the grind, all the things that it takes to really make it in this town, so, you know, I can inspire other people to come out and try it themselves.

HAMMER: And so many people are rooting for you. I have to tell you, I`m so happy this is all kind of working out, because when we met a little while ago, it was very clear that you`re just a nice guy. You`re a good guy. It`s obviously the people who know you love you. The ones who talk about you in the movie really sing your praises. I want to watch a bit of that.


HEIMAN: What else do you have? Good.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I definitely think that the sky is the limit. If he can kiss a model like that and he`s a nerd, then you know, he can be a superstar on his own and he will be kissing the nerd.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right. You kiss him on the other side.


HAMMER: All right, Jesse, obviously you want to be the next big thing. What`s your honest expectation here? Am I talking Tom Cruise level by this time next year, Jim Carrey level? Something like that?

HEIMAN: I`m really just aiming for supporting roles. Really great supporting roles. You know, the types you see like, like David Spade, or, you know, like a Chris Farley type. Whatever he would -- you know, what he would have gone out for. I could go out for those roles.

HAMMER: Well...

HEIMAN: Him or my idols are really like John Candy and, you know, just guys that, you know, really, the parts that are out there for me, and I just want to go for those.

HAMMER: Well, I can`t wait to see the documentary. I hope it all works out. Great talking to you again, Jesse Heiman. I appreciate you being here.

HEIMAN: All right, great. Thank you for having me.

HAMMER: All right. And we move now from 15 minutes of fame to the "SHOWBIZ Fame Game."


CARLY SIMON & TAYLOR SWIFT, SINGERS (singing): You`re so vain I bet you think this song is about you, don`t you, don`t you, don`t you?


HAMMER: Taylor Swift teaming up with the great Carly Simon. But does she find the answer to the classic rock `n` roll mystery? What is that song about?

"SHOWBIZ Reality Check." Teresa Giudice definitely knows how to bring the drama on "The Real Housewives of New Jersey."


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The guilt ain`t going to be on (EXPLETIVE DELETED) me.

TERESA GIUDICE, REALITY TV STAR: Not me! Not me! Your sister!



HAMMER: Is Teresa`s TV fame to blame for her real-life legal woes? The big debate is ahead.




UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And in real life, Walter Mitty, the lovable hen-pecked dreamer.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Walter, what`s the matter with you?


HAMMER: Viewers of a certain age will remember watching reruns of that movie classic, "The Secret Life of Walter Mitty." And that, of course, is the late, great Danny Kaye, playing an everyday office worker who can`t help daydreaming about amazing adventures. We feel you, Danny. Who doesn`t want to escape the daily grind, right?

Now one of my favorite actors and comedians, Ben Stiller, updating that legendary movie for the 21st century. He runs dramatically through dreary office hallways, spends his days in a bland office. But don`t worry. He finally escapes the office blahs with an adventure that will give you hope the next time you feel like you`re never going to get out of your own cube.

Here`s your "SHOWBIZ First Look" at "The Secret Life of Walter Mitty."



GRAPHIC: This Christmas


GRAPHIC: "The Secret Life of Walter Mitty."

BEN STILLER, ACTOR/COMEDIAN: Hi. Do you have any cars available?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, we have a blue one and a red one.

STILLER: I`ll take the red one.


HAMMER: Yes, I`d take the red one, too. "The Secret Life of Walter Mitty" opens Christmas day, and in the meantime, we just have to daydream about how good it`s going to be.

All right. "Real Housewives" stars Teresa and Joe Giudice are going through a legal nightmare now, charged with 39 counts of fraud, facing 30 years behind bars. But is their reality TV fame really to blame for their troubles?

That isn`t the only storm that`s hitting right now.


ZIERING: The storm is coming, and it`s coming fast.

Just can`t sit back and watch this.

Can`t just wait here with sharks raining down on us.


HAMMER: "Sharknado" secrets. More than two million people already hooked. Now what is the real story behind the megahit sci fi movie? "SHOWBIZ Newsmaker," "Sharknado" hero Ian Ziering right here with some big revelations about the sequel everyone is waiting for.


Time now for "SHOWBIZ Say What?" Let me show you Prince Charles after being presented with a teddy bear for his new grandson, Prince George. But what is Prince Charles really thinking? It is your turn to weigh in. Go to I want you to fill in that thought bubble. You might see your suggestion on the air right here tomorrow night on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.


HAMMER: Right now on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, "SHOWBIZ Reality Check." Were "Real Housewives of New Jersey" stars Teresa and Joe Giudice really arrested on fraud charges just because they`re famous?


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The guilt ain`t going to be on (EXPLETIVE DELETED) me. It`s going to be on you.

GIUDICE: Not me! Not me! You`re (EXPLETIVE DELETED) sister.




HAMMER: Tonight the outrageous claim by their lawyer about why they were arrested.

Plus, we interrupt this broadcast for a SHOWBIZ "Sharknado" alert.


ZIERING: The storm is coming, and it`s coming fast.

Just can`t sit back and watch this.

Can`t just wait here with sharks raining down on us.


HAMMER: Tonight we have breaking "Sharknado" news involving millions of people. Sharknado star Ian Ziering is right here with me tonight. He`s revealing "Sharknado" secrets, and is a former 90210 star really becoming a Chippendale`s dancer? "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" continues right now.

Welcome back to "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT." And thank you for watching. I`m A.J. Hammer with a big and scary "SHOWBIZ" reality check tonight for "Real Housewives of "New Jersey" stars, Teresa Giudice and her husband Joe. Tonight, the outrageous claim by her attorney that the reasons they were just arrested on federal fraud charges is because, wait for it, they`re famous. Here`s what Theresa`s attorney just told He said, "The government frequently targets high-profile people to draw attention to their prosecutorial efforts. It`s especially happening here." And Joe`s attorney said, "I feel that because of his celebrity he is being treated differently than others are for the same offense." Really? Well, let me take this to my friend Ryan Smith. He cohosts HLN "After Dark." He`s also an attorney.

Ryan, are you in any way buying that they were targeted by the Feds because they are famous?

RYAN SMITH, HLN: A.J., I wouldn`t say they were targeted by the feds. But I would say maybe there`s a little bit of truth to this. I will say this. Prosecutors, especially the feds in cases like this, do want to have higher profile people, not necessarily making mistakes, but do want to profile these folks and say, look, this is something that we`re pursuing all over the country. These people did something wrong. We`re prosecuting. Now, treated differently? I don`t think so. This is - they`re being treated, I think, like any other people or group of people that commit these kinds of offenses. So the government is going after them.

HAMMER: Famous or not, you do something wrong, you can`t blame the fame thing for the fact that the feds are going after you.

SMITH: Yeah.

HAMMER: I don`t really get that logic. But Alex McChord is here with us. And Alex, you got famous, of course, while starring on "The Real Housewives of New York." Not for being sought after by the feds. Are you buying the blame game? The whole fame blame game thing here?

ALEX MCCHORD, REAL HOUSEWIVES OF NEW YORK: Well, here`s the thing, they were easier to find because they`re famous from reality TV, because they have made their name living a blinged out crazy loud lifestyle. It was easy to say, let`s see what they`re doing? Is everything really on the up and up. And of course, once you open that can of worms, it`s obviously not.

HAMMER: That`s very true, and let`s be clear here. Innocent until proven guilty, but Teresa certainly has not been shy at all about flaunting her opulence when she had it. Let`s take a look at this, this is when she was giving a tour for her TV show fans on the "Bravo" TV website. It`s a little something called "Welcome to Teresa`s Crib."


TERESA GIUDICE: This is my beautiful kitchen. I wanted to have like an elegant look. I love my columns. We have a lot of detail on our trim. I custom designed my cabinets. I love them. Here`s my Gucci glasses. Had to have these.


HAMMER: Yeah, that`s no buck fifty a square foot right there. Boy, life is going to change now. Another reality show star with us tonight. My friend, Omarosa Manigault, the West Coast editor of "OK" magazine. Always great to have you here, Omarosa. Who of course starred on "The Apprentice" and other shows. Now, you`ve seen it before on all kinds of reality shows. Particularly here, Teresa really flaunting her lifestyle. So, I guess in a sense she can blame her fame for getting arrested for fraud, just not in the way her lawyer is claiming.

OMAROSA MANIGAULT: Any time you have a flamboyant, flashy life, then, of course, you`re going to call all kinds of scrutiny to yourself. And Teresa has lived a fabulous life. But I think in this case it`s the show. It`s the nature of the show. A lot of the franchise has been scrutinized. A lot of the housewives. You see a lot of them facing some financial troubles. And so, I think this is just par for the course for this particular franchise.

HAMMER: And these are people who certainly have had money problems in the past as well. Teresa and Joe now could be facing more than 30 years in prison if they`re convicted. I can tell you, when stars get thrown behind bars, it can truly be a cruel awakening. So just how tough is it to be a star behind bars? Watch this.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Reese Witherspoon arrested.

HAMMER: It`s something Reese Witherspoon found out the hard way after her arrest for mouthing off at a cop.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: America`s sweetheart caught being not so sweet.

HAMMER: Going from the bright lights of Hollywood to the harsh light of jail in Atlanta can be a rough ride. Of all the stories in Hollywood, few are more compelling than the fall from grace tales of stars who end up behind bars. Stars behind bars fall into all kinds of categories. There are the repeat offenders.

ALEX TERESZCUK: You are never surprised when you hear that Lindsay Lohan or Charlie Sheen has been arrested.

HAMMER: These two seem to skate in and out of trouble without doing any serious jail time.

TERESZCUK: We`re all saying - like it`s another day that ends in y, of course, they are getting in trouble.

HAMMER: Then there are the hard time stars behind bars. Like Martha Stewart and Wesley Snipes who did real prison sentences. Stewart was sentenced to five months in prison in 2004 for crimes related to a stock sale. And Snipes did more than two years in prison for tax charges.

Then there are the stars behind bars who found fame after jail. Like Tim Allen, who was busted selling cocaine in 1978 and did about two years in prison. A little more than a decade later he was a sitcom superstar on "Home Improvement." Or Mark Wahlberg who as a teen did 45 days in jail for assault and battery.

TERESZCUK: He straightened up, turned around and has really done well for himself.

HAMMER: And some who were stars before they were behind bars became even bigger superstars after getting out. Robert Downey Jr. nearly torpedoed his career with the string of drug related jail stints back in the `90s.

ROBERT DOWNEY JR.: You can do this .

HAMMER: Now he`s a box office superhero fighting bad guys as Iron Man.

TERESZCUK: People with bad pasts can definitely straighten up and do a lot of good.

HAMMER: And then there are the stars behind bars who will be staying behind bars. O.J. Simpson serving nine to 33 years for robbery and kidnapping. And legendary music producer Phil Spector doing 19 years to life for murder. Neither will be on any red carpets any time soon.

MARK GERAGOS: It`s still is a daunting, daunting thing.

HAMMER: Celebrity defense attorney Mark Geragos tells "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" facing the criminal justice system is a tough experience for celebrities used to the sweet life.

GERAGOS: You`re stripped of kind of all of your crowd and your posse, so to speak, and now you are completely on your own and basically when you get put into jail you have to deal with it. You have to deal with a stark reality.


HAMMER: Well, this is a stark reality that the Giudices may now be facing. Never mind Teresa and Joe being stripped of their posse. I mean imagine these guys, these very glamorous people being stripped of their everyday glitz for regulation jail wear. Ryan Smith, back out to you. What exactly would jail be like for Teresa and Joe if they`re convicted? Would it be like summer camp or a little more serious than that?

SMITH: I don`t think it would be like summer camp. I think you could say a lot more serious. I don`t think they would be in a maximum security facility. More like a minimum facility. But they talk - sometimes they call it the country club. No jail is a country club.


SMITH: You`re stuck in a cell. Your hours are regulated. You can`t have all the opulence you`re showing on your website and all that kind of stuff. So very different experience, and they are looking at some real time here .


SMITH: . and because you`re talking about the government, A.J., it`s not looking good.

HAMMER: I still think it`s probably, if this does happen. If they do wind up behind bars it`s a good thing for Teresa that she`s a pretty tough cookie. I mean we - hey, look, do we have the video handy, Charles? The table flipping. I mean, this was a classic reality TV show moment.

MCCHORD: But A.J., she`s a mother.

HAMMER: Well, she`s a mother.

MCCHORD: She`s a mother, let`s - I mean of four girls.

HAMMER: So, tell me, Omarosa, how do you think she would handle getting to eat lunch with fellow inmates as opposed to seating with her kids?

MANIGAULT: Well, I`m going to hope that she doesn`t get jail time. Particularly if she`s found innocent, obviously. But you know, you have to remember that even though they`re on TV and we think of these things like kind of like soap opera, these are real people with real lives and real families and I think about the girls first and foremost when I think about what they`re going through and how this has to be affecting them. So hopefully Teresa is not guilty of these charges and she won`t have to face jail time or hardened prisoner.

HAMMER: But Omarosa, Omarosa, you know, and Alex, you know, that the thing is when you put yourself out there on reality TV like that, you know people are going to just think all kinds of wild things and imagine all kinds of wild things .

MANIGAULT: That`s true.

MCCHORD: Yeah, absolutely.

HAMMER: About your reality.

MCCHORD: Yeah, and the thing is, that nobody wins here because let`s say Teresa is not convicted, but Joe is. He`s not a U.S. citizen. He`ll get sent back to Italy and the family is ripped apart.

HAMMER: Well, this will continue to unfold. It`s going to be fascinating to see how it plays out. Again, innocent until proven guilty, but these are some serious, serious charges.

Alex McChord, Omarosa Manigault, Ryan Smith, I thank you all for being here tonight. Now, wait until you see this. It is a SHOWBIZ storm alert. You`d better watch out. Because there`s a sharknado heading your way.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Storm`s coming, and the it`s coming fast.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just can`t sit back and watch this.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You can`t just wait here and wait sharks to rain down on us.


HAMMER: Yeah, what a craze. The movie hit "Sharknado" just hit a ratings high. More than 2 million viewers just tuned into its third broadcast on the sci-fi network. Oh yeah, "The Sharknado" craze just getting stronger. Tonight I`m so happy to have "Sharknado" and former "90210" star Ian Ziering right here telling me about how he almost turned down the role.

Also, Taylor Swift plays pop culture`s oldest guessing game.


TAYLOR SWIFT AND CARLY SIMON (singing): You`re so vain I bet you think this song is about you, don`t you, don`t you, don`t you .


HAMMER: Oh, yeah, Taylor is teaming up with iconic Carly Simon to sing "You`re so vain." So, I got to know did you just find out who the heck that song is about, after 40 years of guessing? And wait until you see what we have named as our moment of "SHOWBIZ Awesomeness." This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.


HAMMER: Yeah, it`s the event of the summer, of the year, of the decade, perhaps of ever. And chainsaw or not, there`s still no escaping "Sharknado." The delightfully cheesy disaster flick "Sharknado" is still setting ratings record three weeks after its debut on the sci-fi network. And the Sharknado hero himself, Ian Ziering with me in Hollywood right now for our SHOWBIZ newsmaker interview. Thank you, Ian, for saving well, at least Los Angeles on behalf of Americans everywhere.

IAN ZIERING: It`s the at least I could do. Los Angeles has been very good to me.

HAMMER: Good, good, I`m happy to hear it. Man, this is unbelievable to me. This is exactly how huge "Sharknado" is right now. This past Sunday Sci-Fi aired it for the third time. That rerun got even more viewers than the second or the first airing. More than 2 million, the highest rated rerun in the network`s history. Ian, I have to ask you, why, why?

ZIERING: Because of me, A.J., of course. I have no idea why. This movie doesn`t really do any of the things that normal convention tells you should be successful. This is not a huge Hollywood blockbuster. This is a low budget independent film. It`s campy. And it what does have going for it is the fact that it appeals to the science fiction fan. And they are the strongest, most staunch fans in entertainment, bar none. And they tend to be very tech savvy. Luckily for us, that the movie delivered. It`s a fun movie. It`s - you know what .

HAMMER: Delivered?

ZIERING: It`s a .

HAMMER: It delivered.

It is insane how big it delivered with spectacularly campy and cheesy scenes like this one. We must watch this particular scene. Charles.


ZIERING: L.A. is drowning.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re going inland and I`m taking my family with me.

ZIERING: We`re safe here.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There are sharks flooding the streets.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you kidding? Sharks in a swimming pool is impossible!


HAMMER: .. Becoming fish food, sharks literally falling from the sky. You, Ian, thankfully attacking them with a chainsaw. I have to believe making this thing was just incredibly nuts.

ZIERING: It was crazy. You know, when I first read the script. I had my doubts. You know, reading these things it`s kind of hard to imagine because there`s so many visual effects that really are needed to piece it together. But when I saw the scene where I actually got to chainsaw my way out of the belly of a shark, I mean these are these moments in time where you just have to commit and do it.

HAMMER: Producers reportedly want you back for "Sharknado 2" now. I have got to ask you because there`s been some question out there about your costar Tara Reid. Reports that she`s out. Reports she`s in. What can you tell us?

TARA REID: I can only tell you that I know that Sci-Fi wants another movie. They don`t have a script. So everything is pretty much hearsay. You know, why would they want to mess with the formula? It just seems to have worked so flawlessly in its dysfunction to try and alter that would really be, I don`t know, playing with fire.

HAMMER: Well, I hope --

ZIERING: I don`t know what`s going to happen.

HAMMER: I hope for the sake of people afraid of sharks everywhere it will come together.


HAMMER: But listen, you survived "Sharknado," the whole storm.


HAMMER: You did perform with the Chippendale`s dancers in Vegas, and that somehow led to a 90210 reunion with your former costars Shannen Doherty and Jennie Garth. Now, Ian .


HAMMER: You`re going to be 50 next year. I`ve got to know .

ZIERING: This yeah.

HAMMER: I`ve got to know what made you decide to get your magic mike on?

ZIERING: I was a little overweight. The last couple of years I`ve been married and have had a kid and my wife has been pregnant. So, the times that I would go to the gym I had to sacrifice to take care of my daughter and make sure could get those extra hours sleeping in the morning.

So, I put on a little extra weight. But what I sacrificed I`ve gotten back in joy a thousand fold. But when this Chippendale`s opportunity came along it meant that it was now part of my wheel house.

HAMMER: So, whatever .

ZIERING: You know, with all the professionalism and intensity that I bring to any character, it was now playing a Chippendale`s, so I needed to get the body into the right proportions. Less fat, more lean muscle mass and just not embarrass myself on those stage.

Are you kidding? Those guys are like carved from twisted steel and set to peel.

HAMMER: Hey, look, I`m here to say you look great. It looks like you had a great time.

ZIERING: Thanks.

HAMMER: And I want to thank you again for saving humanity, Ian. It`s great to see you. Thanks for being here.

ZIERING: Any time, A.J. All right, and we`re coming to New York next, so .

HAMMER: Fantastic. Please save us.

All right, here now is another pop culture craze that is getting the new life tonight. Remember the old vain game?


TAYLOR SWIFT AND CARLY SIMON (singing): You`re so vain, I bet you think this song is about you don`t you don`t you .


HAMMER: Taylor Swift teaming up with the legendary Carly Simon to play the "You`re So Vain" guessing game. So, is Carly finally going to reveal who the song is about after four decades of debate? You`re going to have to stick around to find out. And wait until you see what we`ve named as our moment of "SHOWBIZ Awesomeness." This is SBT, "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" on HLN.`



CARLY SIMON: We`re going to sing here "So Vain" tonight, and I`m so excited.


HAMMER: It may be the oldest pop culture guessing game we`ve got. People have been dying to find out who Carly Simon`s classic song "You`re So Vain" is about for more than 40 years. Is it Warren Beatty? It is Mick Jagger? But hold your answer. Because Taylor Swift just teamed up with music legend Carly Simon to play the "You`re So Vain" game. So, are we finally going to get an answer? Here`s CNN`s Jeanne Moos for "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT."


JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Prepare to dip your hats strategically below one eye and wear a scarf that`s apricot.

SIMON: We`re going to sing "You`re So Vain" tonight and I`m So Excited.

MOOS: So excited, they were holding hands in this behind the scenes video. Taylor Swift brought Carly Simon out on the stage at her Boston area concert so together they could build out Carly`s signature song. About some conceded mystery man.

CARLY SIMON AND TAYRLOR SWIFT: You`re so vain, I bet you think this song is about you don`t you don`t you

MOOS: Don`t you know 41 years later we still don`t know.

You are so lame, you probably think this song is about .


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The Cap Stevens (ph).


MOOS: 68-year-old Carly Simon has never spilled the beans, though she`s dolled out a few clues over the years.

SIMON: The name the person was about had an "e" in it.

MOOS: She gave us to vowels.

SIMON: An "a."

MOOS: and a consonant.

SIMON: I`m going to add an "r."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And "r" right now.

MOOS: When she released a new version of the song in 2009, British tabloid was sure it had the guy based on barely a whisper.

Played backwards sounded to some like David. Ah-ha, David Geffen, the record producer. Carly shot that one down. At an auction for charity, Carly promised to reveal the secret to the highest bidder. Former NBC sports executive Dick Ebersol donated $50,000 only to whisper the name to her, though he had to sign a confidentiality agreement not to reveal it.

Will Taylor Swift have loose lips?

SWIFT: Who is "You`re So Vain" written about?

SIMON: But I`ve already told you. And I`ve told you never to tell.

So, you know - I just .

I do now know.

MOOS: Cap, James, Warren, Mick. Carly sometimes says who it`s not about.

SIMON: It is not Mick Jagger.

MOOS: Or who it`s not not about.

SIMON: Well, you know what, it`s certainly not not about Warren.

MOOS: But if you have dreams of ever solving this riddle, they`re just clouds in your coffee.

SIMON: You know, I could never solve it. Because if I solved it then no one would have anything to talk to me about.

MOOS: Nothing vain about Carly.


MOOS: It`s just asking that`s in vain.

SIMON: It was (inaudible)

MOOS: What are you talking about?



HAMMER: I don`t want to know. I won`t ask her. That was CNN"s Jeanne Moos for "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT."

All right, we move on now to Justin Timberlake`s brand new plan for global domination. I love this. J.T. revealing today yet another amazing new big video. It`s already getting called the best video of the year. And it is your moment of "SHOWBIZ Awesomeness". This is SBT, "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" on HLN.


HAMMER: And it`s time for "SHOWBIZ Awesomeness." This is when we reveal the most awesome story of the day. And quite frankly, there is nothing more awesome tonight than the premier of Justin Timberlake`s video for its brand new hit single "Take Back the Night." Now, J.T. has been teased in the video with the bunch of little sneak pick, but now he`s finally debuted the whole thing, and I got to say, I think it`s an instant summertime party classic. Take a look and get your groove on.




Great song. Cool video. "Take Back the Night" is the first single after Timberlake (inaudible) coming out in the 20/20 experience "Two of Two" due out in September. Coming up next on "DR. DREW ON CALL," Lindsay Lohan and Amanda Bynes are child stars in trouble, but is show business to blame? Patty Drew joins us at Dr. Drew right now.