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Latest on the Boston Boming Investigation; New Drug Tunnel Explored; Parents Refuse to Take Sick Child to Doctor; Martha Stewart's Hunt for a Partner

Aired April 30, 2013 - 15:30   ET



BROOKE BALDWIN, ANCHOR, "CNN NEWSROOM": Just in to us at CNN, a fingerprint has been found on the Boston bomb debris.

Investigators now trying to find a match for this fingerprint as well as female DNA also found on the remnants of the pressure cooker bomb.

CNN has also learned out of the 260 people wounded here on Boylston Street two weeks ago Monday, 20 Boston bombing victims remain in the hospital. Not a single one of them listed in critical condition.

How about that? They're all getting better and better.

In fact, we just heard from one of the wounded. He is Jarrod Clowery. As he's recovering from burns and from shrapnel wounds, he talked about the moment after the blast when he was approached by two off- duty police officers.

Jarrod's friends survived, but they too were injured. He still hasn't walked after the bombing because of the shrapnel in his legs, but his doctors are optimistic.

Now to an incredibly tragic story out of Philadelphia. An 8-month-old baby boy is dead. What might have helped kill him? His parents' faith.

"The Philadelphia Inquirer" is reporting that investigators believe Herbert and Catherine Schaible medically neglected their son Brandon and that that couple, according to the paper now, admitted to police that they once again chose prayer over medicine for a dying child.

Let me repeat that. Prayer. And I said once again because this is the Schaibles' second child to die. The Schaibles were guilty of involuntary manslaughter after they didn't take their sick 2-year-old son Kent to a doctor back in 2009.

The couple belonged to the First Century Gospel Church which tells its members this. Let me quote. "It is a definite sin to trust in medical help and pills, and it is real faith to trust on the name of Jesus for healing."

Joining me now, the "Inquirer" reporter who has been investigating this story, Mike Newall. Also with me, criminal defense attorney Midwin Charles.

Mike, first to you, and just kudos on your reporting on this incredibly tragic story here out of the Philadelphia area, but let me just get this straight.

When asked why these parents didn't take this child, this second child who was ill to the hospital, I want you to tell me exactly what the Schaibles told police.

MIKE NEWALL, STAFF WRITER, "THE PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER": Well, they told them that what their religious beliefs were, that they have faith in god, that they have to pray to God to heal the child, that it would be against their religious faith and they didn't believe that the child could be healed if they took it to the doctor.

Only -- it could only be healed in their belief in divine healing.

BALDWIN: So there is a church that basically shuns medicine in favor of prayer and you did an interview with the head of this church, this man by the name of Nelson Clark, who said this to you and your piece.

Quote, "God did not want the Schaible children to die. Instead," he said, "the children died because of some quote/unquote 'spiritual lack' in their lives, a flaw they need to correct to prevent future deaths."

I mean, I read that and I'm thinking, are you serious? What more did this guy say? How is this church -- how is that even legal?

NEWALL: Well, what they believe is that all illness comes from Satan. And that God is a jealous god, so trust in medicine or a doctor is sacrilege.

And they feel that there is a spiritual lacking, that the Schaeubles need to come back to God. They need to repent. They need to find what this flaw is and that is the only thing, not a call it a doctor, not a call to 911 if a child is ill, that will prevent further deaths in their family.

BALDWIN: Wow. Mike, I want to come back to you and you're the legal brain in this conversation, Midwin, because when you read Mike's reporting, the obvious question is where was the department of child services.

We had the first young child that died and now another child and so, apparently, child services didn't get involved because of some kind of exemption in the law, some sort of religious exemption.

Explain that to me.


As you know, the government cannot interfere in religious beliefs and religious practices.

However, a government has a compelling interest to protect children from bodily harm, from injury and, of course, from death.

But what you're talking about here is this exemption that Pennsylvania children services law has where, if a family member has a religious belief and has failed to provide medical care for that child or get appropriate medical care for that child, that they are somehow exempt from a child abuse neglect investigation, not necessarily from criminal prosecution for other charges.

As you know, they were already prosecuted for the death of their first -- of the two-year-old child for involuntary manslaughter.

What I find most interesting about this exemption.

BALDWIN: So, Mike -- yeah, go ahead.

CHARLES: No, I was just going to say this isn't unusual in the sense where it exists in 43 other states.

BALDWIN: Wow, 43 other states have this kind of religious exemption and then you think there are other children here.

This couple has, what, Mike, six, seven other kids who, according to you are now in -- are in foster homes.

What happens to the kids? Where are the parents?

CHARLES: Exactly. And that's what ...

NEWALL: I'm sorry.

BALDWIN: Go ahead, Mike.

NEWALL: They have seven other children. Right now they are placed in temporary foster homes. They have been to the hospital. The court is mandating that they get checkups. They're all labeled as healthy right now.

They won't be returned until the criminal charges, whether the prosecution -- the district attorney's office decides whether to press charges.

So it is going to be a very interesting legal battle as far as what happens to these children and where they wind up.

BALDWIN: Choosing prayer over medicine, Mike Newall, we'll be following your reporting with "The Philadelphia Inquirer."

I thank you and Midwin Charles. Thank you so, so much. Guys, appreciate it.

NEWALL: Thanks you, Brooke.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just come down the elevator shaft. We had to be lowered 12 meters. They tell us that the tunnel here runs about 300 meters in the direction of the U.S. Border. They never knew where it was going to come up on the other side.


BALDWIN: Look at this. Four hundred yards, four feet wide, though, we're taking you inside this elaborate drug smuggling tunnel just discovered there in Mexico.


BALDWIN: So, listen, a lot of people look for love, but you may not think Martha Stewart is the type to look for love on, of all places,

But this 71-year-old says she is looking for Mr. Right and that this time around why not be adventurous?

Alison Kosik joins me from New York with the details.

Listen, sometimes you have to go online. I have a good girlfriend who found her husband online, whatever, if it's Martha Stewart or not.


You know, think about it. Just because you're a celebrity, it doesn't mean it is easy to find love. In fact, Martha Stewart says that, you know what, many people she knows have had luck meeting people online. Just now she wants in on the action.

So she had this big interview with Matt Lauer yesterday on "The Today Show," and in the interview, Martha Stewart was candid about the characteristics she's looking for in a guy.

Listen to them.



MATT LAUER, HOST, "THE TODAY SHOW": Youngish meaning ...

STEWART: Youngish.

LAUER: Come on.

STEWART: Active.

LAUER: OK, but not an age?



STEWART: Energetic. Outdoors-ish. Really smart. LAUER: Successful?

STEWART: Successful is important, I think, just for him.

LAUER: because it would be hard for him if he were not successful to ...



LAUER: Uh-huh. A lot of issues.

So you're actively, you know, this is something ...

STEWART: I'm always looking. Are you kidding? All women are always looking.

LAUER: Do you miss being in a relationship?

STEWART: Yes. I do.


KOSIK: So Stewart has been married. She was married for 26 years. That marriage ended in 1987 and then she had a long-term relationship, on and off until a few years ago.

And then if you listen to the interview a little bit more, she said great details, like she would like to have breakfast with somebody, and she wants to go to sleep with somebody.

Now, Martha is a busy lady, so you know what? Online dating, it may just be the thing for her. It cuts out all the work of going on the date and then only then finding you don't mesh with the person at all.

So online dating can be helpful with that. I don't know how great it's going to be, how worthy it's going to be for her?

BALDWIN: I can't imagine. You know, you're some guy on the website. You're looking for love also, and then all of a sudden you show up at your coffee date and, hello, it is Martha Stewart. You know, I kind of wonder if her picture is up there or not.

Alison Kosik, we wish her the best in the quest for love. Alison, thank you so much.

And it is prom season, speaking of, you know, a little love. But that's not the news here. But it is for one Georgia town.

We talked about this story on the show. This is the first time students in this particular place attended an integrated prom. Folks, it is 2013. We'll hear from students at that historic party next.


CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Prices are hot. May 2006, that's the last time we saw home prices rise like this.

From the CNNMoney Newsroom in New York, I'm Christine Romans. This is "Your Money."

These are the best year-over year gains in high prices since the height of the bubble seven years ago.

According to the S&P Case Schiller numbers, prices rose 9.3 percent, year-over year. And all real estate is local, as you know.

Look at some of these markets. San Francisco, up almost 19 percent. Las Vegas, up 17 percent. Phoenix, a 23 percent gain in home prices from February 2012 to February 2013. Detroit, 15 percent. Atlanta, 16 percent.

If you live in an area like New York, that was the weakest gain, year over year, just 1.9 percent.

What is driving this increase? Well, for most people, really low mortgage rates, very low mortgage rates. Thirty-year fixed rate of 3.4 percent and a 15-year at a new record low, 2.61 percent.

But it is not all people borrowing money for cheap prices. It is also cash buyers and very low inventory.

So in some metro areas, you have to pay up to get the house because there aren't a lot of houses out there to buy.

Now, let's look at where we have come. Home prices are nowhere near the record highs. This is the height of the bubble. This is where we are now.

When we talk about a recovery in home prices, we're talking about a recovery from these lows where you saw a crash. We're still 28 percent below the peak of 2007, so hold the champagne.

We're actually seeing a slowdown, month over month, as well, so be a little careful here as we head into the spring about whether this home price recovery lasts, but for right now, things are looking pretty good, rates are very low, and people are feeling optimistic about the home price recovery.

From the CNNMoney Newsroom, that does it for me. Same time tomorrow.


BALDWIN: Now to some of the hottest stories in a flash. Roll it.

First up here, a woman in California is being charged with attempted murder accused of trying to poison bottles of orange juice at Starbucks.

A customer says she noticed the woman acting kind of strangely. She apparently pulled out two bottles of O.J., placed them back on the shelf.

The bottles were found to actually contain what police are calling a, quote-unquote, "lethal dose" of rubbing alcohol.

Police now trying to track this woman down.

And score one for the good guys. I want you to watch what happened when a gunman tried to rob a man on a New Orleans sidewalk early Saturday morning.

The would-be victim turned the tables, grabbed the shotgun and sent the robber running in the opposite direction. Police are still looking for the suspect.

Tony Award time, the 2013 nominations are out and they're getting kinky this year. "Kinky Boots" with a musical score by Cindy Lauper grabbed 13 nominations including the big one, Best Musical.

Also in that category "A Christmas Story," "Bring It On," and "Matilda the Musical."

Actor and actress nominations go to some Hollywood stars, including Tom Hanks and Cicely Tyson.

The 67th annual Tony Awards will be handed out June 9th.

On matters of civil rights America's young people still have a knack for leading the way. Over just this past weekend, high school students in Cordele, Georgia, penned a new chapter in history.

After persuading the local school board to break with tradition they partied down at Wilkose County high school for the first ever integrated prom.


RAYMOND JOHNSON, WILCOX COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD: It's about time. It's about time.

They went through elementary school together and the middle school together, they went through high school together and why can't we have our prom together?

They came to the board with the idea. We did a resolution saying we agree with it and here we are.

ANA GONI, WILCOX COUNTY SENIOR: An they realized, O, even though my parents probably don't stand for this, why don't I take a stand for what I believe in?

People here are changing. They're really improving.

The hearts of people and the minds are growing and all of us being together is just amazing.

LARRY LINDSEY, WILCOX COUNTY SENIOR: It really meant a lot because I didn't really think it would happen. I thought of previous proms. They didn't have integrated so I felt good about it. ALEXIS MILLER, WILCOX COUNTY SENIOR: This is really a great feeling to know we're part of history and that my class gets to be the one to make it happen.


BALDWIN: Good for those kids. Hopefully it's the first of many.

You know it's an amazing glimpse at how far some are going to smuggle drugs here into the United States.

Take a look at this. This is an elaborate tunnel just over the California border into Mexico. It is nearly four football fields in length.

We' will give you this underground tour, next.


BALDWIN: "The Lead With Jake Tapper" is just a couple minutes away, but first wanted to show you this, details of a newly discovered drug tunnel.

Steve Atkinson of our affiliate KGTV went deep into the tunnel for a first-hand look.


STEVE ATKINSON, 10NEWS ANCHOR: Our story begins here in the old time warehouse district of Tijuana, an unsuspecting building just like hundreds of others in the bustling business park, but this one held a deep secret for months, a drug tunnel almost four football fields long with sophisticated engineering, an elevator, electricity, ventilation, and a rail system.

It could have generated millions for the cartel building it, but it was shut down before it ever reached its destination.

The warehouse tunnel was just blocks from the U.S. border. Jorge Nieto, a Tijuana reporter, shows us just how close.

ATKINSON: So the wall is right there.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. The brown one.

ATKINSON: So there is a very good chance they go right up under the wall and reach another warehouse on the U.S. Side.


ATKINSON: Inside, the warehouse still looks very much like it did the day of the seizure, hundreds of bags filled with dirt from the excavation of the tunnel.

Near the front of the building down a flight of stairs, a small closet. Inside was the elevator shaft almost 40-feet deep. We had to be lowered down with a harness because the elevator is now broken.

We were told we would have less than 30 minutes with our cameras because of the heat, humidity, and lack of air.

So we've just come down what was the elevator shaft. We had to be lowered about 12 meters. They tell us that the tunnel here runs about 300 meters in the direction of the U.S. border. They never knew where it was going to come up on the other side.

As soon as you get out of the shaft you can feel the humidity. Without any type of ventilation, you can't imagine what the workers here were put through filling hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of these bags with this dirt. Take it, haul it out, start all over again.

The tunnel was so new the workers only had time to reinforce the first 15 feet of wall with plywood and two-by-fours, just wide enough for a motorized rail system that would haul the bags of dirt and eventually the drugs through the tunnel.

The only light we have is from small flashlights and our camera light. The walls are covered with partially exposed rocks.

As we go further, deeper and deeper into the tunnel, it seems to just get smaller and smaller and hotter. The labor must have been intensive and incredibly claustrophobic.

The tunnel was unfinished and the military has no idea where the exit was targeted.

A total of 17 people were arrested that day and the warehouse was shut down.