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X Games Competitor Dies; Beyonce at Super Bowl; School Shooting in Atlanta
Aired January 31, 2013 - 15:00 ET
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BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: Top of the hour, I'm Brooke Baldwin. We begin with the breaking news out of Atlanta, Georgia, another school shooting to tell you about. Let's take a look at some of the pictures as we have some aerial footage from some of our Atlanta affiliates and I'll just tell you what we know.
And let me just be crystal clear. In these kinds of stories, we exercise caution and reporting only what we know to be sure. This is according to our affiliate WSB-TV, according to their conversation with the Atlanta Fire Department, that two people have been shot here at this middle school, Price Middle School in South Atlanta, if you know the area, south of downtown.
A 14-year-old student has been shot and a teacher has been shot. I don't know if the shooter is still active. Don't know if the shooter is still in the school or has been apprehended. Don't know the extent of the injuries. We're working on getting information.
Mike Brooks just sat down to talk to me about another story, but, sir, let me just bring you in. What do you know?
MIKE BROOKS, CNN SECURITY ANALYST: I am hearing from one of my -- two of my sources that apparently they have two in custody, but I have to confirm that just to make sure. But that's the latest I'm hearing from Price Middle School.
Apparently, it was the 14-year-old teacher. One was taken to Grady Memorial Hospital and the other was taken to the Atlanta Medical Center. Unknown conditions right now.
BALDWIN: Unknown conditions right now. As soon as we get more, obviously we will come back here to this shooting situation at this middle school in Atlanta.
Stay with me here because as we hear about this in Atlanta, the final month of a Chicago teenager's heartbreakingly life is now part of this national debate on gun control. And now the city of Chicago is taking a step to try to curb the violence overtaking its streets.
And 15-year-old Hadiya Pendleton performed in front of crowds in Washington just a few weekends ago at the president's inauguration. Flash forward to a week later and she gets shot in her back at a Chicago park. Her father says the honors student and school majorette was so excited to be part of the president's big day.
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NATHANIEL PENDLETON, FATHER OF SHOOTING VICTIM: It was one of the greatest things, that she was so excited. She was really excited to just -- to meet the president and to be there, a part of the inauguration. She had been talking about it way before the inauguration, way before the election.
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BALDWIN: Her godfather tells CNN that Hadiya was mistakenly hit in a gang shooting.
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DAMON STEWART, GODFATHER OF SHOOTING VICTIM: The way he approached, everybody seen this guy coming with a gun, so everyone tried to get away.
This is an ideal neighborhood where this happened. But just like most cities and I would imagine most major metropolitan cities, you have your little niche neighborhoods, and if you go too far, maybe a mile to the left, a mile south, a mile east, you can run into the bad neighborhoods. But where this happened at was an ideal community. This is a place where a lot of people from the South Side would like to live.
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BALDWIN: This 15-year-old apparently has become a victim of a life she tried to stay away from, even pushing others to do the same as this YouTube clip shows.
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HADIYA PENDLETON, 15 YEARS OLD: Hi, my name is Hadiya. This commercial is informational for you and your future children. So many children out there are in gangs, and it is your job as students to say no to gangs and yes to a great future.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BALDWIN: Oh, man.
Her murder is the 42nd in Chicago this month, making it the deadliest January in a decade. And Chicago's murder rate has jumped 30 percent in the last year. Chicago's mayor, Rahm Emanuel, today making a major announcement. He is going to be putting 200 more officers on the street.
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RAHM EMANUEL (D), MAYOR OF CHICAGO: The I.G. issued a report of which I asked immediately my staff to review with Superintendent McCarthy and his staff of an idea of moving an additional 200 individuals who were doing desk work and administrative work and paperwork and move them out on to the street. (END VIDEO CLIP)
BALDWIN: While the mayor hopes the teen's death will convince communities to cooperate with the police, President Obama is hoping her death shows the need to bring nationwide reform to gun control. He said this to Univision in regard to Hadiya's death.
Let me quote this for you -- quote -- "The problem is that a huge proportion of those guns come in from outside Chicago. If you are just creating a bunch of pockets of gun laws without having unified integrated system, for example, background checks, then it is going to be a lot harder for an individual community to protect itself from this kind of gun violence. That is precisely why we think it's important for Congress to act."
That was the president in that interview with Univision.
Guns and gun control in the spotlight across the country. Is there a solution to America's gun problem? Join Anderson Cooper. He is looking at this controversial debate in "Guns Under Fire," an "A.C. 360" town hall special. It airs tonight. Set the DVR. Watch it live 8:00 Eastern right here on CNN.
And a 5-year-old boy is now in his third day being held hostage by a stranger who snatched him from a school bus and dragged him in this homemade bunker. This is near Midland City, Alabama. We are hearing some reports today about the man who is holding the child. Neighbors identify him as Jimmy Lee Dykes. He is 65 years of age.
We know he is a retired trucker, a Vietnam War veteran. And I want to you listen here to Mark Potok. He tracks hate groups and others who are on the fringes of society for the Southern Poverty Law Center. And he talked with a lead investigator in this case.
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MARK POTOK, SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER: He said that officers after speak to neighbors and acquaintances of Jimmy Lee Dykes described him as being very strongly anti-government in his views, as you said, anti-America, whatever that may mean. And he also described him as a survivalist.
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BALDWIN: Dykes has allowed police to send coloring books and crayons into this bunker for the boy. Apparently, they also send out some medication for the boy which he needs each and every day, because he has Asperger's syndrome and ADHD.
Mike Brooks is here from HLN. He is a law enforcement analyst from our sister station HLN.
Obviously, the fact this guy, the 65-year-old, is allowing crayons and coloring books into this bunker, that has to be a great sign. BROOKS: It's a great sign, because he is not going to allow anything without a negotiation.
As a former negotiator and former SWAT operator, I can tell you that's the way it usually goes. We don't know of any demands he is making, though, Brooke. What is the motive for this? Was it because he was supposed to be in court yesterday for a menacing charge from back in December when he fired at one of his neighbors with a handgun?
We don't know. But as a former negotiator, I can tell you as long as it's ongoing, as long as there is a dialogue, as long they are allowing the boy's medication in, coloring books and crayon, that's a great sign as far as I'm concerned.
BALDWIN: Look, obviously we're not there, we're are not in on the specifics of the negotiating, but put yourself in the police shoes. Right? This is day number three of the kid being held down there in the bunker. What might police in a situation like this be asking for?
BROOKS: It depends.
Number one, you want to make sure that that little boy is safe. They say there is no sign so far that he is being harmed in any way. Some people ask me, how do they know that?
Let me just tell you they wouldn't say that unless they thought it was true. If they thought that little boy is being harmed, they would have an emergency assault plan and they would go in and try to end the situation and bring the little boy out.
But as long as you have got dialogue going, time is on your side. But they are monitoring very closely exactly what's going on in that bunker. A lot of people say he has got to sleep. But keep in mind this is a bunker. It's underground.
There is probably one way in and way out. They know they have food. Apparently there is electricity and I'm also hearing the little boy can watch TV. So, some people say, no, yank the electricity. You don't want to do that. You don't want to exacerbate the situation. Just keep the dialogue going.
BALDWIN: Why a 5-year-old? I know you don't have the answer to that, but have you ever heard of situations like this, when somebody has a 5-year-old as a hostage?
BROOKS: No. He went on that bus and he wanted to try to get two children, but the brave bus driver stopped it. Apparently this boy fainted so he was able -- no resistance from the little boy -- he was able to pick this little boy up and take him with him.
BROOKS: But as long as dialogue is going, to me, that's a good sign. BALDWIN: OK. Mike Brooks, let's talk quickly here if you are just joining us about the situation at least now we are hearing -- I'm talking about the Atlanta school shooting at Price Middle School in South Atlanta and this according to a police source in Atlanta to CNN.
We now know the shooter is in custody. We know that two people -- this is according to the Atlanta Fire Department via WSB-TV -- that two people have been shot, a 14-year-old student and a teacher.
Quickly, you had information on where they went?
BROOKS: Yes. One went to the Atlanta Medical Center and one went to Grady Memorial Hospital. We don't know the condition of the 14-year- old boy or of the female teacher.
BALDWIN: OK. As soon as we get more information, we promise we will let you know. Mike Brooks, thank you.
BALDWIN: Now more than a week after the snowmobile maneuver that left him clinging to life, X Games competitor Caleb Moore has died. He was competing in Aspen just last week.
And just before we show you the video as far as what happened leading up to this, you may want to turn away. You don't have to watch. But he was trying to do this backflip when he couldn't rotate his snowmobile enough before the landing. Here he went. The skis dug on the snowmobile dug into the ground and that snowmobile 450-pound machine hit him, slammed into his chest and into his head.
CNN's Brian Todd has been following this story for us.
Brian, the family, your hearts just go out to them here. This is a young, young guy and I know they are thankful for the support from his fans.
BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: They are.
They issued a statement today thanking the fans for support. His injury lingered for several days, as you mentioned. Caleb Moore's family sending us word a short time ago that the 25-year-old freestyle snowmobiler has died as a result of that injury at the X Games. He is now the first athlete ever to die as a result of an injury at the X Games.
Brooke mentioned it was just a week ago today that Moore's 450 pound snowmobile came crashing down on top of him as he attempted to land the backflip with the vehicle. He was diagnosed with a concussion and then doctors noticed bleeding around his heart. He had emergency heart surgery, but after that complications from the surgery apparently led to a brain injury.
We contacted ESPN, which organizes and televises the X Games. The network issued a statement saying that it is saddened by Moore's passing and that their thoughts and prayers are with his family. But we have to mention here ESPN and others involved in these so-called extreme sports events have come under some criticism recently.
Many people are saying these events are too dangerous. Sebastian Landry, a filmmaker who specialized in snowmobiling features told us -- told "The New York Times" last year that injuries in the sport made him lose interest in filming saying that it seemed like every time they went to the mountain, someone went to the hospital.
Well, here's ESPN's statement reading in part: "We will conduct a thorough review of this discipline and adopt any appropriate changes to future X Games. For 18 years, we have worked closely on safety issues with athletes, course designers and other experts. Still, when the world's best compete at the highest level in any sport, risks remain. Caleb was a four-time X Games medalist attempting a move he has landed several times previously."
Brooke, had extensive discussions with ESPN a couple of days ago when we were reporting on the accident and they are taking a lot of pains to make sure people know they are trying to make the games as safe as possible.
BALDWIN: Brian, something I wondered about, because when you watch the video after the crash, you see that he gets up. Right? He gets up and he walks around and seems like he is OK. What happened?
TODD: He did get up.
He was lucid, at least briefly, lucid enough at one point to ask his brother what had happened.
TODD: Now, in our reporting, I spoke to a trauma surgeon at MedStar Washington Hospital Center, Dr. Christine Trankiem, and I described all this to her. She said this injury could have been similar to the one suffered by that actress Natasha Richardson a few years ago.
You will remember she was in a skiing accident and got called what's called an epidural hematoma and she got up and she was lucid right afterwards and she walked and she spoke. Now, Dr. Trankiem says people who get these injuries have intervals where they do seem fine, but then blood starts to gather between the covering of the brain and the skull and the bleeding and the pressure become too much for the brain to handle.
This could very well be what happened to Caleb Moore the other day.
BALDWIN: Brian Todd, thank you.
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Plus, cash, prostitutes and a raid, a powerful senator facing serious accusations involving sex.
And live some time next hour, Beyonce could address the saga over her lip-synching. We will take you to her Super Bowl news conference.
BALDWIN: Here's something you may not have ever seen before. Take a look, tumbleweed after tumbleweed rolling around here. This is south of Midland, Texas, blocking a road. That's how many tumbleweeds were out there. My producer actually grew up in that part of West Texas. She says she has never seen so many tumbleweeds at one time. This is just another example of this wacky weather across the country.
BALDWIN: We want to get you an update here as you have been watching and tweeting on this breaking news story out of Atlanta, Georgia, this middle school that had been under lockdown after a student and teacher had been shot.
Here's what we know right now. Let me just read this to you verbatim. This is for immediate release here the Atlanta Police Department.
"Around 1:50 p.m. today, Atlanta police responded to reports a person shot at Price Middle School in southeast Atlanta. On arrival, officers discovered a student had been shot outside the building. The student has been transported alert, conscious, and breathing to Grady Hospital."
This is a hospital in downtown. "A suspect tentatively identified as a student has been taken into custody. All remaining students are safe at this time. Atlanta public school officials are on hand to ensure an orderly dismissal while police investigate the circumstances of the shooting. Further information may be forthcoming at a news briefing."
That's the latest in Atlanta, this student shooter in custody and this person shot en route or at a hospital right now. We do have our correspondent Martin Savidge. He is en route to the scene. As soon as we get him up and get him up live with some information, we will bring that to you here on CNN.
We will be right back.
BALDWIN: As you know, we are just a couple days out here from Super Bowl XLVII. And I know a lot of people are looking forward to seeing the Ravens and the 49ers. But there is a certain someone special I know a lot of music fans and perhaps non-music fans are excited to see performing in this big halftime show. And that is Beyonce. So, as we are a couple days out, we are expecting. In fact, we have got the two-minute warning to be hearing from Beyonce about a minute ago. So, stay with me as we're going to dip in live and listen, because keep in mind this is the first time we have heard publicly from Beyonce since that whole lip- synching flap during the presidential inauguration in Washington just a couple of weekends ago.
Stay with me, because we will have a big discussion about this. And I want you to weigh in. Send me a tweet @BrookeBCNN.
So, as we talk Beyonce and if there is anyone who knows Beyonce on a personal and artistic level, it is my next guest here sitting in the studio with me, the legendary music mogul Michael Mauldin.
MICHAEL MAULDIN, CEO, ARTISTIC CONTROL GROUP: Thank you, Brooke.
BALDWIN: He is the man who is responsible for signing and for developing the career of Beyonce and the ladies of Destiny's Child.
We could go through -- I read this big resume of yours, sir, today, this long list of famed artists whose careers you have directed. But today we will tell you he has worked with the great Alicia Keys, the Fugees, Lauryn Hill, Maxwell. Here she was the to night -- I was there in the room -- singing Obama is on fire when they slow-danced.
And even his own son, mega, mega-producer here Jermaine Dupri.
So, Michael Mauldin, the former president of Columbia Records and current CEO of Artistic Control Group, joins me now. Welcome.
MAULDIN: Thank you.
BALDWIN: As we await Beyonce here, you were the head honcho at Columbia when you guys first signed Destiny's Child, when Beyonce was -- how old was she?
MAULDIN: Right. If I'm not mistaken, Beyonce was around 15 years old.
BALDWIN: Well, 15 years old. Tell us about the Beyonce you knew back then.
MAULDIN: Well, obviously, she's very sweet. Being from Texas, she just had this real Southern kind of flavor and still to this day that's who she is.
And even right now, if you just walk to B., she is just so just natural. She treats you like she has been knowing you forever, even if she doesn't. And if she has, she really reaches out to you, but just an amazing talent. Always was. And I think she always will be.
BALDWIN: Amazing talent. The way you talk about it, it almost sounds like she is authentic.
MAULDIN: Very much.
BALDWIN: She's the real deal. But here's the thing. You know this whole story line that has percolated over the last couple of weeks, Michael, this whole -- the fact that she wasn't singing live with the Marine Corps Band, right, and standing up there right on the west front of the Capitol a couple weekends ago.
BALDWIN: Did that bug you?
MAULDIN: Not at all.
Just knowing how it goes, in today's world, there is a lot of major vocalists that use auto-tune and does different things. I wasn't even watching the performance there singing the anthem. Me being as abreast of it as I am and knowing those ins and outs of that, I didn't know that she was lip-synching by no means.
And I even went back and looked at it several times. And even when she took the ear monitor out, it basically gave all the evidence in the world that she was actually singing it live. And if she was lip- synching, she did a really, really good job.
BALDWIN: Let me just ask you just simply, why do this?
MAULDIN: There is a lot.
It was cold. I could easily see it. I was thinking about it earlier. If you had to be in front of that audience, the television audience or was billed the way she was as being there, if she was hoarse or if there was some reason that she may not have felt that she was going to be at her best performance, an ideal scenario would have done that.
I don't know if I was managing her if I would have said, oh, I think we should cancel today because you are not going to be able to sing live.
BALDWIN: But here's the but. Kelly Clarkson, James Taylor, they did just fine singing live.
MAULDIN: Yes. Yes. They did, and it could have very well have been that particular day.
I don't believe, just me knowing her or knowing of her -- and again I don't work with her every day now or anything -- but I don't believe that's a natural thing for her, particularly on that type of song. She is a very strong dancer. So, I can imagine she -- from time to time, she does use tracks.
BALDWIN: But she wasn't dancing. People say she wasn't dancing.
MAULDIN: That's very true.
BALDWIN: She was just singing that, looking lovely.
MAULDIN: That's very true.
BALDWIN: And a lot of people were wishing she was singing live.
I have more for you, including how she should respond, because you know these reporters, they are going to pepper her with questions today.
MAULDIN: Oh, yes.
BALDWIN: We have got to get a quick break in. We're going to see Beyonce. We're going to continue this.
MAULDIN: OK. Looking forward to it.
BALDWIN: Michael Mauldin, be right back.
MAULDIN: All right.