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Egypt's President Claims New Powers, Fiscal Cliff Looms in Washington; Larry Hagman Dies in Dallas at the Age of 81; News Electronics Jobs Come to U.S.; Documentary: O.J. Didn't Commit Murders; San Francisco to Ban Nudity; Miracle Baby Receives Heart Surgery; Iraq War Amputee Inspires Disabled Athletes; Growing Number of Female Sports Fans
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Plus, look, we have a long way to go in this country. And I hope you will join me so together we can work for the last heart attack. I'm Dr. Sanjay Gupta, thanks for watching.
MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN ANCHOR: You are in the CNN Newsroom, I'm Martin Savage, in today for Don Lemon, it's very good to be with you. And who played one of television's most mob, and well maybe even hated characters has died. Larry Hagman had a successful acting career even before the mega hit show "Dallas."
Remember , "I Dream of Jeannie." But his portrayal of J.R. going to the TV bad guy role to a brand new level. Larry Hagman died yesterday in the Dallas hospital of complications from cancer. He was 81-years- old. Stay right here because we're live from Hollywood in just a few minutes with reaction from his showbiz friends and family.
Four days after being shot in the head, former boxer champ, Hector Camacho died today after being taken off life support.
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UNIDENTIFIED MAN: My show time.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN: My show time.
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SAVIDGE: In one of his most famous thoughts, that in 1997, Camacho knocked out Sugar Ray Leonard, but he had proven himself in the 1980s, when he won the world title, the super lightweight, even as a junior welter weight. On Tuesday, a gunman shot the 50-year-old Camacho and killed a man who was also seated with him in his car, in a hometown of Bayamon, Puerto Rico. He was survived by two sons, one of them is a boxer.
A shootout in Alabama, has left a deputy sure of dead, and another in critical condition. Deputy Scott Ward was killed yesterday when the deputy's responded to a family dispute at a mobile home in Baldwin County. The gunman, Michael Jansen, also was killed during that confrontation.
Investigators still trying to figure out the source of an explosion that damaged more than 40 buildings in Springfield, Massachusetts last night. The WWLT camera captured the moment of that blast. Eighteen people were injured, mostly emergency workers who have been called to the scene. They had evacuated some of the area after receiving reports of the gas smell about an hour before that explosion.
And now to Egypt, and what is happening right now makes it look like the Arab Spring never ended. We all remember the crowds of protesters. People are demonstrating in Tahrir Square, the showdown between the critics and the supporters of the regime. And it's been un-consolidating and preserving its power. Well, that was then. And this is the scene right now.
Demonstrators back in the streets. President Mohammed Morsi has announced sweeping new powers for himself, ordering Egyptian courts not to overturn a decree law issue since he's taken an office. As the crowd gathers there is been a growing sense of unease over what may happen next.
CNN's Reza Sayah has the latest from Cairo.
REZA SAYAH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Demonstrations continue against the Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi, not the big numbers that we saw on Friday. But certainly, still a lot of people out here, lots of food stands about 30 tents which is an indication that many of these protesters want to be here for a while. It is not clear how long they will going to stay here. But when you talk to them, they seem determined to speak out against Mr. Morsy's controversial decrees.
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UNIDENTIFIED MAN: The beginning of a new era for a tyrants.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN: He is saying that nobody can revise what I say.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN: Right.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN: He is actually throwing the whole system out of the scene, totally.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN: Yes.
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SAYAH: In the meantime, big developments in meeting rooms and news conferences on Saturday, where factions opposed to Mr. Morsi's made moves to put pressure on the president. Of course, a number of his decrees seemed to weaken the judiciary, the judiciary answered back on Saturday by calling for a nationwide judge's strike. Also the Supreme Judicial Council on Saturday made a statement that clearing his decrees on attack on the independence of the judiciary. Opposing factions also called for a one-million man protest and sit-in on Tuesday. What does Mr. Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood group do? They call for a one-million man protest too on Tuesday. Some critical days ahead for this country.
Reza Sayah, CNN Cairo.
SAVIDGE: Elsewhere in the region, there were signs the truce between Israel and Hamas is taking hold this weekend. Palestinian sources say Israel has eased restrictions on Gaza fishermen, allowing them to go up to six miles from shore. The fisherman had been restricted from going more than about three miles into the Mediterranean.
And Palestinian -- has resumed attending along the Israeli border. A Hamas official says Egyptian and Israeli officials are expected to meet Monday to discuss details of the cease-fire.
And another sign, a positive one of recovery after that conflict. Thousands of students have returned to school in Gaza, they did that today. The schools were closed during the Israeli strikes. And some of them were damaged. Students and teachers said, they were glad to be back.
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NAHEDA SILMI, HEADMISTRESS, ZAITOUN SCHOOL (through a translator): Today, thank God, we returned to school. The school during the last day is some of the nearby buildings were destroyed because the ministry of interior is in the same neighborhood. All the nearby school buildings had some damage. We tried to renovate the school and keep the students away from the damage. Windows and doors were damaged. We are trying to create a real school day for students after what happened.
MUHAMMAD ISSA, STUDENT: I am happy today because the war has ended and we have a truce.
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SAVIDGE: If you didn't know, Gaza has one of the youngest populations in the world, with more than 50 percent under the age of 18. The schools are often over crowded with some serving multiple ships of teachers and students.
How about this? We're 38 days away from the dreaded fiscal cliff. Congress is ready to get back to work but can they really strike a deal before the clock runs out? We're live at the White House.
And Black Friday. It is not the only shopping day that is cashing in early. Cyber Monday is following soon, we had details on how to find the early on-line deals. Stay right here.
SAVIDGE: An emergency at the U.S. State Department today, fire trucks raced to this State Department headquarters in the foggy bottoms section of Washington about 11 a.m. A flash fire in the ductwork of the building forced everyone to evacuate, and sent three people to the hospital, one of them in serious condition. The good news, not many people were in the building at the time of the -- of course being a holiday weekend.
Over on Capitol Hill, a final deal to avoid that so-called fiscal cliff, well, it's still a bit out of reach. Despite Congressional staffers working through this Thanksgiving weekend.
Let's get Athena Jones in Washington. And Athena, any leaders or do they feel at least that they're optimistic they can find common ground?
ATHENA JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, they say they are, you know, with Congress returning this week, and so far not much public evidence that there has been any real progress in the deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. Folks around here in Washington are thinking and hoping that maybe this week could be a turning point between Republicans and Democrats.
(voice-over) After meeting with President Obama before the Thanksgiving holiday --
PRES. BARACK OBAMA (D), UNITED STATES: I want to welcome the Congressional leadership here.
JONES: Congressional leaders express optimism about reaching a deal to avoid $500 billion in tax increases and spending cuts to set to take effect next year.
REP. JOHN BOEHNER (R), HOUSE SPEAKER: We had a very constructive meeting with the president to talk about America's fiscal problem.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN: We have a cornerstone to work something out.
JONES: Staffers have been working behind the scenes to find common ground. Among the big sticking points, how to bring in more tax revenue and reduce spending on programs like Medicare. But it is not yet clear when lawmakers and the President will meet next. And even if some progress is made this week, a final deal could still be a long way off.
JENNIFER LIBERTO, CNNMONEY.COM: We rarely see the hill and the White House make decisions early. They tend to do better when they have a deadline. So I -- I would be pleasantly surprised to see it -- a deal emerge earlier than the end of the year, but we'll see.
JONES: And Martin, even though there is not another meeting between the President and lawmakers on the President's public schedule, that could certainly change. We know that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said before the break that they hope to have another meeting with the President this week -- Martin.
SAVIDGE: Athena Jones at the White House, thanks very much.
SAVIDGE: President Obama went Christmas shopping today. The president and his daughters Sasha Maliah shopped at an independent book store in Arlington, Virginia. The Obamas are participating in the third annual small business Saturday by visiting likely on store. The White House says, the President bought 15 children's books.
Cyber Monday, well, those deals are no longer just for Monday. Many Web sites posting online deals days before Black Friday. Despite the -- schedule, Cyber Monday is still a key part of the holiday shopping season. Spending on Cyber Monday may reach $1.5 billion this year. So how do you get the best on-line deals if Cyber Monday is starting earlier this year?
CNN Money reporter Laurie Segall takes us inside the changing world of online holiday shopping.
LAURIE SEGALL, CNN MONEY REPORTER (voice-over): Cyber Monday spending is expected to top $1.5 billion this year. That's up from last year but the nature of the day has changed. Like Black Friday, or now Black Thursday, it starts earlier. On-line deals were available every hour of Black Friday on cybermonday.com.
UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: It is so much lot easier to do it on line than it is to go out to the stores directly.
SEGALL: A new play in E-commerce, they spoke. Ahead of the holiday season, the social network got into the gifting game, launching Facebook gifts.
(on camera): This really seems like it is kind of Facebook actually taking a big step into E-commerce, right?
LEE LINDEN, FACEBOOK GIFTS: Well, we think of gifting as a unique form of E-commerce, special, so we give it special attention.
SEGALL (voice-over): Facebook Gifts allows you to send your virtual friends real world gifts.
LINDEN: So, right from your newsfeed where you normally click to post on someone's time line for their birthday, you now see a buy gift button.
SEGALL (on camera): Got it.
LINDEN: And so, as easily as attaching a photo, you can attach a gift.
SEGALL (voice-over): Facebook Gifts was designed with the Smartphone in mind.
LINDEN: We build our products to be mobile first actually. SEGALL: Fab.com is one of Facebook's leading partners in gifting.
JASON GOLDBERG, CEO, FAB.COM: The number one top product right now is beardos, we have sold tens of thousands of beardos, you probably saying, what is a beardos? Are you going to put on or you want me to put it on?
SEGALL (on camera): I am going to have you put that one.
GOLDBERG: All right. So, beardos is, like the perfect ski mask and also functions as a beard.
SEGALL: Even one of that hot sellers, focuses on your phone.
GOLDBERG: So, we're carrying around these Iphones or android phones all day.
GOLDBERG: And what we really need is, you know, I don't want to put this up to my ear all the time especially my --
SEGALL: And you can talk like this.
GOLDBERG: So, now you can walk around and talk like this.
SEGALL (voice-over): Your Smartphone has blurred the line between in- store shopping and on-line shopping. Shopping apps like Red Laser enables you to buy products on your phone and pick them up in the store. And even if you're shopping in a store, you're often using the internet.
UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: I am using the app, especially at K-Mart, to see where I can get the best deal.
SEGALL: One company is banking on the idea that you will do most of your shopping on line. Slice is an app that comes through e-mail to track your on-line purchases. It also provides a valuable tool.
SCOTT BRADY, CEO, SLICE: Once the item shifts we can automatically send you a push notification that says, your package just shipped. We can tell you when it is out for delivery. We can tell you when it's been delivered to your door.
SEGALL: So, on this holiday, on-line shopping at your desk gone that first day back on work, well, that may be a thing of the past. Laurie Segall, CNN Money, New York.
SAVIDGE: The holidays can also be an emotionally difficult time for many Americans, especially for the millions who are without a job this year.
Ahead, Wendy Walsh will join me with some tips on how to beat the holiday blues. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
SAVIDGE: The Christmas season got under way in the little town of Bethlehem today. Crowds and worshipers, senior priest and high- ranking Vatican aide, high ranking Vatican -- on hand to kick off the Christian advent season. The word advent means coming or arrival and it spans the four Sundays before Christmas, the number of people visiting the birth place of Jesus has soared in recent years.
The signs of the season, Black Friday, door busters, red lights on the trees, and then those holiday blues. Many mental health experts say that this is the time of year that pushes more and more of us to the edge.
That is one of your nontraditional holiday greetings, and it is only Thanksgiving. There are still 31 days left until Christmas.
Let's bring in now our human behavior expert Dr. Wendy Walsh. And Wendy, you know it is a stressful time for many people, those of us with jobs but especially for those who don't. Unless for our 12 million people who can't find a job. And it must be very tough for them.
DR. WENDY WALSH, HUMAN BEHAVIOR EXPERT: Not only is it tough, it's really dangerous for their health. Because a new study came out this week Martin showing that if you are unemployed, you have a much higher risk of having a heart attack that might even rival the risks associated with say, smoking or obesity or high blood pressure. If you have lost just one job, you had about a 22 percent higher risk than unemployed person. But if you've had four losses or four periods of unemployment in your life, you might have as high as a 63 percent higher risk of a heart attack than someone who is employed. So it doesn't make the holidays fun that is for sure, when you're also dealing with this additional stress.
SAVIDGE: That is pretty amazing numbers there. But even if you have a job there, we know the holidays can be bad for your mental health, why?
WALSH: Well, because the holidays are a big giant time machine. Even when we go back to friends and family, we are zip back and we all become 12-years-old again around the dinner table. While we may have grown up and become mature wise thinking people, we have all these familiar triggers that happened. The sibling rivalry happens. Even though we're now in our fifties, there is a favorite sibling. People compete for who does best parenting or best cooking, and sometimes there maybe have been an abusive childhood that you're still recovering from, that can be pretty painful to witness these people again.
SAVIDGE: Yes. And my own father passed away on Christmas Eve, and of course that something that comes back, as you recollect the holidays, you can't help it, what can you do though to get through the holidays? WALSH: Well, there are a number of things you can do. First of all, if you know it is coming, you can plan ahead. You know, air fare is expensive, and we know, we like to book a week or ten days or sometime away, but if all you think can do are three happy days with your family before its spiral down into fighting and conflict, then do what a shorter trip. Plan ahead on that.
Secondly, you want to make sure that if there is a family member who you have regular conflict with, you don't try to wait until Christmas Eve to do the repair. Start now, you can phone that family member up. You're a different person, they're a different person, time has passed. You can try to repair ahead of time, very, very important. The other important thing is, when you do finally arrive, try not to regress, remember, you're not twelve, you're not five, you're not ten anymore, you are an adult, you hold a job hopefully, you are a wise person, so try to keep in that personality.
Remember that you are loved and you are loveable. And finally, there are plenty of times where you're just going to have to say pass the potatoes. When you do hear those little digs, when family members are kind of throwing little insults at you. This is the time to have grace, hold your head high, smile and say, pass the potatoes, please.
SAVIDGE: I like that very much, Dr. Wendy Walsh, and great advice. Thanks very much for joining us. We look forward to talking to you through the holidays.
WALSH: Nice to see you, Martin.
SAVIDGE: Thanks. Well, from "I Dream of Jeannie" to "J.R. Ewing" on "Dallas," actor Larry Hagman left a lasting legacy. We'll take you live to Hollywood and the Walk of Fame where people are paying tribute to one of the most memorable actors of our time.
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SAVIDGE: Just a few minutes ago, a Hollywood officials placed flowers on Larry Hagman's star on the Walk of Fame. The legendary television actor died today in Dallas. The city where his most famous TV character came to life.
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LARRY KING, CNN ANCHOR: The chemistry between you two was supposed to be what? Loving or not loving?
LARRY HAGMAN (1931-2012): Loving but love-hate kind of stuff. Yes, she hated me and I loved her. LINDA GRAY, ACTRESS: Oh, stop.
HAGMAN: No, no.
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KING: Larry Hagman, and co-star, Linda Gray, remembering their days on that hit television show "Dallas."
Kareen Wynter is live right now in Los Angeles. And Kareen, Larry Hagman was a Texas man. But he made a big bark in Hollywood, didn't he?
KAREEN WYNTER, CNN ANCHOR: Of course, and I can't tell you how many people have been stopping by, paying honor to Larry Hagman all day, has start here on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and some memories, they say, takes you right back. And some people say, it is quite surreal. They still can't believe that he is gone. And, you know, some of his co-stars here today, probably it's a very difficult day for them. I just heard that little snippet with Linda Gray.
And I just watched a short time ago, one of the last interviews that Linda actually did with Larry and there was only a twinkle in her eye and I didn't see the Larry King video just now. I heard it I bet there was a twinkle in her eye when she spoke about her beloved friend, best friends for some 35 years. And when you spoke of Larry Hagman's death, you know, Linda Gray, she tweeted about her best friend, saying that he was one of a kind, really a larger than life friend.
And that is what we have been hearing all day from people stopping by. And I have to tell you Martin, a couple of people have also mentioned, that they were stunned by this. Because this was a working actor, he was working right up to his death. The new series, "Dallas," which airs on TNT, CNN's Carton Network, he reprised his role as a villain as J.R. Ewing. And he reportedly shot sixth of the 15 episodes. And so, some people are stunned by this news. Here is a little bit more of what they had to say in paying respects of a late actor.
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UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: Everything seemed to be just going so well. And it was exciting that he had an opportunity to sort of reinvigorate his career, and you know, the new show seemed to be doing well. And everyone was just so excited to see all of those characters that they have loved so long back on the show. I mean, it was pretty amazing that they all agreed to come back and do that together. And I'm not sure how it's going to work without him.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN: The recent revival of "Dallas" show, definitely cut those episodes, great stuff, you know, actually even better than ever. You know, I can't believe he was 81 playing that role. You know, so if anyone has a chance to tune in, I guess the season was just renewed the second season.
(END VIDEO CLIP) WYNTER: And Martin, that is something writers of the new "Dallas" will have to rustle it with what to do now because, Hagman was such a crucial, a key figure, a key character in this show. So, you know, that is for later. Right now, Hollywood is mourning one of the great legends of our time. And the star here, it is a little quite now. It's been quite busy the last few hours. And just to think of it Martin, just 31-years-ago, Larry Hagman was honored with the star here in Hollywood, right next to his mom's star, Mary Martin, who was also an actress. A very, very successful actress in her time. So a day of remembering, a day of honoring, a day of reflection for one of Hollywood's great legends -- Martin.
SAVIDGE: All right, thank you very much for that. Larry Hagman will be very much missed. I interviewed him a couple of times and he was always very fun to talk to. A good challenge. Thank you, Kareen.
Half past the hour now, and let's take a look at the headlines.
In Egypt, judges are calling for a nationwide strike over a perceived power grab by the president.
As crowds of young people protest in Cairo, a top association of Egyptian judges wants every judge to walk off the job. They are angry because of a decree giving Mohammed Morsi unchecked power. The country's highest judicial authority calls the decree an unprecedented attack.
Thirty eight days now to solve that fiscal cliff. Lawmakers return to work Monday, they are trying to cut a deal. If Congress and President Obama fail to reach a massive deal, and that is on tax hikes and spending cuts, well, it will automatically kick in, in January.
Anti tax crusader Grover Norquist slamming Georgia's Senator Saxby Chambliss, the latest republican to break with Norquist, no tax hike pledge. Chambliss says that he cares more about his country than the pledge.
Super storm Sandy has cost New Jersey more than $29 billion in damage. And that number easily could rise. Governor Chris Christie's office says that the final total will only be known after taking into account, things like next summer's tourist season. New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has already said, people asked the federal government for $30 billion, to help with his state's recovery.
And an Irish newspaper editor resigned today after publishing topless photos of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge. Michael O'Kane was the Irish Daily Star's editor runs photos of Kate in September, the photo showed Kate sunbathing with her husband on a vacation at a private home in France. A French magazine first published the photos, the palace has now confirmed that the couple is seeking legal action.
Was O.J. Simpson actually responsible for Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman's murders? Ahead, details on the new allegations that emerging, suggests that O.J. was not the killer.
But first, were you the one of many who snatched up a good deal on a flat screen TV this Black Friday? You might be surprised to find out that your good-bye may have been made in the old good old US of A.
And Today's "Smart is the New Rich." Christine Romans shows us one American manufacturing company that is bringing back jobs by making TVs.
CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN ANCHOR (voice-over): This assembly line in Canton, Michigan is coming again. It is auto country, but workers like Michael Cox are building televisions. Part of an industry that largely left when manufacturing jobs were out-sourced in the 1970s, '80s and '90s.
MICHAEL COX, ELEMENT ELECTRONICS WORKER: There's lots of thing that went overseas that would be nice to see a lot of that stuff coming up. There are a lot of people here that need a job. And we're willing to do just about anything to work.
ROMANS: Element Electronics has re-shored an assembly from Asia, stateside. The parts are still imported. But large-screen TVs are now assembled, checked and packaged in America.
MIKE O'SHAUGHNESSY, CEO & FOUNDER, ELEMENT ELECTRONICS: As consumers want more large screen TVs, it has created an opportunity to bring that production here to the United States. So what we found is that we can produce, assemble TVs here in United States, and do can do that for about same cost.
ROMANS: And putting these TVs here means better quality control and quicker delivery to retailers like Target, Wal-Mart and Costco.
So far, Element has created a number of jobs here. Across the country, the number for skilled factory jobs is up 38 percent since 2005, suggesting at least some of the millions of out-sourced jobs are making a round trip, helping former auto workers like Shelby Lisiscki get back to work.
SHELBY LISISCKI, ELEMENT ELECTRONICS EMPLOYEE: They closed my plant, so I was out of a job for two and a half years. So it was kind of hard to find something for a while there. But thank god they're here. So stuff is being made in America, so that is good.
ROMANS: Christine Romans, CNN, New York.
MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN ANCHOR: A just-released documentary adds another twist to the murder trial of O.J. Simpson. "My Brother, the Serial Killer," from the "Investigation, Discovery Channel" claims that O.J. Simpson was the mastermind, but not the actual murder. The documentary says that O.J. Simpson hired a serial killer to kill -- or rob, rather, Nicole Brown Simpson. Now, it goes on to say that the killer, Glenn Rogers, stabbed her and her friend, Ronald Goldman, to death in 1994. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He asked me, said guess who am I partying with? Nicole Simpson, Now me -- nobody knew who that was. I thought, well, who is that, Bart Simpson's sister? And he was just joking. He said, no. That's when he told me that was O.J. Simpson's wife. Actually, what told me, he says he said, they got money, they're well off, and I'm taking her down.
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SAVIDGE: Uh-huh, OK, while O.J. Simpson was acquitted of the murders, a civil jury determined that Simpson was liable for the murders.
So let's talk law and justice. Holly Hughes is here. She is a criminal defense attorney.
Holly, how valid is this claim?
HOLLY HUGHES, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY & FORMER PROSECUTOR: You know, I didn't really see it. Martin, I actually watched the documentary, because that is a tantalizing lead.
HUGHES: Oh, somebody else killed them? But to me, this man has been convicted of five different murders. He is sitting on death row. The execution is pending in Florida. So I think it is an attempt -- multiple things going on here. Number one, he wants to prolong the execution, because if he does have information, the California authorities might say, hey, give him the stay in Florida, let's find out what he knows. Also, it is an additional 15 minutes of fame. If you watch the documentary, it's very full of his brother and his sister and the family members. They're sort of all jumping on this bandwagon. So I am not sure there is a lot of credence. It does not match. The evidence just doesn't match any of the other murders that he committed. And the other murders he committed were all women that he was involved with sexually, either that he just met -- he was not a robber, per see. He just was a cold-blooded killer. And these particular murders, they don't fit that pattern.
SAVIDGE: What about authorities though? Are they just looking into it at all or are they just totally dismissing it?
HUGHES: Oh, no, they have to look into it because they want to do the responsible thing. So they said, he's made claims. He claims he took a gold angel pen off of Nicole after he killed her, mailed it to his mother, and asked his mother, wear this during one of my murder trials. So of course, they're going to go back and interview people, hey, did she have a pen on that night when she left the restaurant? There were pictures taken from the trial. People snapped photos of her that night? They will look for any kind of physical evidence that will corroborate this story. He also claims now that he was partying with her and he went in there to paint her house. They will interview anybody and everybody that was hired. They can track all those financials. Who did she pay in the painting company? They will look through all that. I think what we'll find, this is just a desperate grab at prolonging the execution, and he had nothing to do with it. And you know what?
SAVIDGE: Yes, but a lot of people tune in.
HUGHES: Of course, they will. We're talking about it, aren't we? It's a big thing. But interestingly enough, what this serial killer does say is, well, O.J. Simpson planned it. He told me, you might have to kill the "B" -- and we won't go into the language. So even if that is true, O.J. Simpson would still be guilty of the murders. So even what this serial killer alleges, doesn't absolve him. Under party to a crime and being the mastermind, he would still be guilty of the murders.
SAVIDGE: All right, before we run out of time, I want to talk about nudity, because who doesn't?
Switching gears, San Francisco's board is about to ban public nudity, officially, next week. When the board gave its initial approval of the ban this week, some protesters immediately got naked. Of course, you would, because you can. And we have heard all about the nude beaches and things like that. But I thought it was already against the law to be nude in public. And I didn't know you needed an additional law.
HUGHES: In California, that is not true necessarily. They do have something called indecent exposure. But there is what we call elements of a crime. And any time the prosecutor wants to find you guilty of a crime, have the jury find you guilty, they have to prove certain things. With California's indecent exposure law, the third element says you have to be naked and exposing your genitalia for the purpose of either sexually arousing yourself or somebody else. So, Martin, if you are just walking down the street, commando, going I just like to be free in the breeze, guess what, that is not necessarily indecent exposure. So you can be naked all you want, as long as it is not for that horrible purpose that meets element number three.
SAVIDGE: So what does -- is it limiting my free of speech in a way to protest without clothing?
HUGHES: Well, I don't think so.
There is speech and then there's just letting it all hang out. So what these folks are saying, well, "I have the right to express myself by being completely naked." And the city councilman is saying no. Oddly enough, the reason he proposed the legislation, is because when the naked people sit on public benches, they don't put a towel or a newspaper under them. So I think he --
No, I'm not kidding. This is great stuff, isn't it? Nude in San Francisco.
HUGHES: There is a headline. But he should have gone up under like public health or safety. Hey, you're sitting down and you could be spreading disease and that kind of thing, because you're not necessarily a clean person. His big problem with the nudity was, you all are not putting a newspaper or towel under you. That is why he wants to ban it in San Francisco city limits.
HUGHES: But right now, if that is not for that indecent purpose, you can walk into the supermarket --
SAVIDGE: Something like this could take off nationwide.
HUGHES: -- naked as a jay bird.
SAVIDGE: Nice to see you again.
HUGHES: Absolutely. Great to be with you, Martin.
SAVIDGE: Thanks very much.
The naked truth.
Well, she is called a holiday miracle. A baby born with her heart on the outside of her body. It beats the odds and it is stunning doctor. We'll hear about her story, coming up, live, next.
SAVIDGE: This holiday holds a particular meaning for one Texas family. They are giving special thanks for their newborn, who just had heart surgery. The baby girl was born with part of her heart on the outside of her body.
Kristi Meyers from our Houston affiliate, KTRK, has the story.
And a viewing note. Some of what you are about to see shows graphic images of the girl's medical condition.
ASHLEY CARDENAS, MOTHER OF ADRINA: Look how little she is.
KRISTI MYERS, CORRESPONDENT, KTRK (voice-over): Ashley Cardenas sees her new baby for the first time after extraordinary surgery to put her baby's heart back inside of her chest. Little Adrina was born with a third of her heart lying on her stomach, beating outside her body. It was stunning thing to see, even for the heart surgeons there to repair it.
DR. CHARLES FRASER, TEXAS CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL SURGEON-IN-CHIEF: It was like the heart was pinched in the middle.
MEYERS: This condition was picked up on an ultrasound, and it's usually fatal. But Ashley made the difficult decision to continue her pregnancy, and pray for the baby's healing.
CARDENAS: I had to come with the belief in him and belief in faith that there is a reason she is here.
MEYERS: In a six-hour surgery, Texas Children's heart surgeons and plastic surgeons reconstructed her chest to make space for the heart inside, and gently stretched her skin to cover the hole.
FRASER: The baby probably will have to have other operations in the future. Her sternum is about half formed. But these are things we can deal with.
MEYERS: Now five weeks old, Adrina is doing well. She still has a small hole inside her heart, but doctors say it may heal on its own.
CARDENAS: They have no idea how thankful I am. If it was not for them, as well as the grace of God, she wouldn't be here.
SAVIDGE: Wow. What an amazing story. That was Kristi Meyers reporting.
Experts say that eight babies out of every one million are born with this condition and 90 percent are stillborn or die within the few days of birth. So little Adrina is proving to be exactly a miracle.
A Paralympics' athlete's journey to the medal stand wasn't an easy one.
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MELISSA STOCKWELL, TRIATHLETE & PURPLE HEART RECIPIENT: It was a routine convoy through central Baghdad. About 10 minutes into the ride, we went under this bridge, and this big boom and this big explosion goes off. The woman in front yells IED, IED. We've hit an IED.
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SAVIDGE: So how this soldier is now fighting a different cause right here at home.
And don't forget, wherever you go, we're right there with you. You can watch CNN live on your computer while you're at work or even on your Smartphone. Head to CNN.com/tv. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
SAVIDGE: If you're good at solving puzzles, we have one for you. British spies are stumped. The skeleton of this pigeon dates back to World War II. It was found in a chimney in England, carrying a coded message in a canister attacked to its leg bone. British intelligence, the intelligence agency known as GCHQ, has sent the bird to the pigeon museum -- who knew -- hoping to trace its origin. Though the agency is disappointed it hasn't been able to read the message as yet, officials say it is a tribute to the codemaker's skills. About 250,000 carrier pigeons were used during World War II, delivering messages from mainland Europe back to Great Britain. Stay tuned.
A roadside bomb in Iraq may have changed an army veteran's appearance, but it did nothing to change her fighting spirit. Now a triathlete, Melissa Stockwell, a Purple Heart recipient, inspires other disabled people to live their lives without limits. Her amazing journey in this "Welcome Home."
UNIDENTIFIED CNN CORRESPONDENT: April 13, 2004, is a date Melissa Stockwell will never forget.
STOCKWELL: It was the last day I ever stood on my own two legs. I was part of the U.S. Army and it was a routine convoy through central Baghdad. About 10 minutes into the ride, we went under this bridge and this big boom and this big explosion goes off. And the woman in the front yells "IED, IED. We've hit an IED." I looked down and where my legs should have been, I saw blood.
There was a few moments of, like, why me, why did this happened to me. But I see these other soldiers are missing two limbs, three limbs, sometimes four limbs, and I looked at myself and thought, I'm one of the lucky ones. And I made a decision then that I was going to live my life for those that didn't get back at all.
UNIDENTIFIED CNN CORRESPONDENT: A year after her injury, Stockwell went back to school for a new career in prosthetics.
STOCKWELL: Basically, you fit amputees with artificial. I didn't know the field existed until I needed a leg and I thought that's pretty cool.
UNIDENTIFIED CNN CORRESPONDENT: She was also inspired to fight on a new battlefield.
STOCKWELL: There was a presentation that was about the Paralympics, and you could go and you could represent your country. I dreamed of going to the Olympics as a gymnast when I was younger. And now it's like I have a second chance. I decided to try the sport of swimming. It was easy for me to swim. I didn't have to wear a prosthetic leg.
UNIDENTIFIED CNN CORRESPONDENT: In 2008, Stockwell became the first Iraq War veteran to be chosen for the U.S. Paralympics team.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm going to introduce our 2008 Beijing Paralympics team. Melissa Stockwell.
STOCKWELL: The feeling of just everything was supposed to happen how it did, the whole journey from the streets of Baghdad, now into the pool, made me feel so alive.
UNIDENTIFIED CNN CORRESPONDENT: Stockwell now helps run "Dare 2 Try" a triathlon club that provides adaptive equipment and coaches for triathletes with disabilities in the Chicago area.
STOCKWELL: Being an athlete myself, and knowing what it's like to sit and wonder if you'll walk again and run again, and to actually have someone not only tell you can, but show you can and actually provide the resources for you to do it, you gain so much. That confidence can take over into all other aspects of their lives.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let's hear it for Chris.
SAVIDGE: Very nice.
It's taken the Internet by storm --
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SAVIDGE: Who does not love that? Details of a new milestone for gangnam style.
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SAVIDGE: Professional hockey players will have more time on their hands, at least through mid December. They'll be attending news conferences like this one, maybe a few labor talks, but they will not be on the ice. Their season, now cancelled through December 14th. The NHL has also called off January's all-star game. More than a third of the season has now been lost. Players and owners are still in a standoff over how to split more than $3 billion in revenue.
The stereotype of the armchair quarterback is getting an update. Turns out the fans in the stands or shouting in the living room may not be a he. A growing number of them are women, tuning in and buying tickets, and pro sports leagues are definitely taking notice. Here is CNN's Nischelle Turner.
NISCHELLE TURNER, CNN ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): She is a mild-mannered makeup artist Monday through Saturday. But for you're Yuriko Bondies, on Sunday --
YURIKO BONDIES, SPORTS FAN: That's not good.
TURNER: -- on Sunday.
BONDIES: That's my guy.
TURNER (on camera): There's your guy.
(voice-over): -- it's how about them Cowboys?
(on camera): Who is your favorite?
BONDIES: Demarcus Ware. That's my guy.
TURNER: Yuriko's (ph) story is one the sports world has seen sky rocket in the past two years. The story of the female fan-addict.
(on camera): When did you first figure out I love football?
BONDIES: Probably when I met my husband -- back then, boyfriend -- because he was always watching football Sundays. So if I didn't watch with him, I couldn't see him. Because he didn't want to see me if I don't watch the game.
TURNER: So if you said, if I can't beat them, join them.
TURNER (voice-over): Here are some stats. Nielson's numbers show, in football alone, the number of women viewers have skyrocketed, growing by 1.5 million in the past five years, which, according to Nielson's Steven Master, is a big win.
STEPHEN MASTER, SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT, NIELSEN: If they could just even do better with women, they're going to really increase their viewership and take the numbers they have and grow them and grow the pot.
TURNER: Oh, it's growing. According to market research firm, Sports One Source, all together, for baseball, football and basketball, licensed apparel for women topped $330 million. This information now has advertisers licking their chops.
MASTER: Brands like Tide, Febreze, things that traditionally have been more targeting the female audience, they're using the NFL as a vehicle to reach households, because they feel that the NFL has done a really effective job of not just reaching that male audience, but reaching the entire household. TURNER: But the sports world hasn't always welcomed the female fan with open arms.
HOLLY ROBINSON PETE, ACTRESS: I'm #crazy football mama on Twitter. And I will flood your timeline with football tweets.
TURNER: Actress Holly Robinson Pete is married to retired NFL quarterback, Rodney Pete. In 2005, she wrote the book "Get Your Own Damn Beer, I'm Watching the Game," and she meant it.
ROBINSON PETE: For years, even when my husband was active in the NFL as a quarterback, I tried to convince the NFL how many women were watching, and it was a little over 45 percent of the viewing audience for Super Bowl, especially, are watching. And they're not all watching for the commercials. They're watching because they understand the Xs and Os. They know the games. We have the wallets so we spend the money.
TURNER: And the time.
(on camera): You started liking them back in the days of Aikman, Michael Irvin.
TURNER: That's when you really fell in love with the team?
YURIKO: About that time I was just watching it because they were really winning every time.
TURNER: America's team.
I am more into the team now than I was back then. Now I know all the players, and I go to the training camp and I actually see them train and practice. So I'm so much more into it. But they don't win.
TURNER (voice-over): Even if their team is struggling.
TURNER: Touchdown eagles.
(voice-over): Nischelle Turner, CNN, Hollywood.
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SAVIDGE: It has finally happened. South Korean rapper, Psy, has just bested the Bieb. Psy's sensation "Gangnam Style" has taken over Justice Bieber's "Baby" as the most-watched YouTube video of all-time. That according to the search engine marketer, Wordstream. "Gangnam Style" reached 805 million views. Did it today Wordstream says it's watched 4,000 times every minute and the video should reach a billion views by December. Go and enjoy it.
I'm Martin Savage. I'll see you back here one hour from now.
"THE SITUATION ROOM" with Joe Johns is coming up right now.
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