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Fire at the U.S. State Department; Iconic Television Actor Larry Hagman Dies; Hector "Macho" Camacho Dies; Demonstrators in Cairo Protest President Mohamed Morsi's Edicts

Aired November 24, 2012 - 15:00   ET


FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back to the NEWSROOM. I'm Fredricka Whitfield.

A fire breaks out today at the U.S. state department in Washington. Four people were injured, one them critically. Let's go live now to Washington and CNN's Athena Jones.

Athena, do we know how this fire started?

ATHENA JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Fred. Well, you know, I'm here at the White House just a few blocks from the state department. We know that this fire started around 11:04 a.m. This is according to the D.C. fire department spokesman. It was a flash fire that began in the duct work at the state department. This was happening as construction workers were working there on the premises.

Now, we know that the fire was put out pretty quickly. In fact, it was put out by people there on the scene before the fire department arrived. And as you mentioned, four people were injured, one was in critically. Three of them were taken to the hospital. We have actually reached out to the hospital to try to get an update on their status, still waiting to hear back. A fourth person as far as we know was not transferred. Some questions remain -- Fred.

WHITFIELD: All right Athena Jones. Keep us posted as we learn more.

Meantime in Hollywood, iconic television actor Larry Hagman has died. He was best known for playing one of TV's great bad guys, J.R. Ewing, on the series "Dallas." Off screen, Hagman was known in Hollywood as a larger than life figure. His former co-stars are remembering him as fun, wild, and memorable. Hagman died yesterday of complications from cancer.

Fans and former co-stars of the Hollywood legend have been reacting all morning to his passing. CNN's Kareen Wynter is live at Larry Hagman's star on the Hollywood walk of fame.

What have people been tweeting about, they have been facebooking, they have all kinds of different ways to convey their sentiments about Larry Hagman, haven't they?

KAREEN WYNTER, CNN ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT: They have, Fred. They're spending the day honoring his memory and just remembering the great and incredible work he's been a part of over the decades, really until the very end. I'll get to that in one second.

But, I'm right above Larry Hagman's star, and about an hour from now, the Hollywood chamber of commerce which administers all of the stars here in the Walk of Fame, will be coming out. They will be laying a wreath of flowers here in honor of Larry Hagman, his memory, his star, by the way, is located right next to his late mother, actress Mary Martin. Hagman was honored with the star back in 1981, September 1981.

Fans have just been coming by all day. A gentleman left these showers here a short time ago paying their respects, really reflecting on his incredible career. Let's get to some of the tweets that Hagman celebrity friends have been writing in honor of his memory.

Linda Gray, she tweeted, so sad to lose such a wonderful, dear, bigger than life friend. Larry Hagman was one of a kind and will be with us forever.

Patrick Duffy also wrote earlier today, my friend is taking a break. Pardon my silence. Love Patrick. Although I have to add, Fred, that Patrick did released a more lengthy, detailed statement earlier this morning, in part saying he was a fighter, of course, referring to his late friend, Larry Hagman. Fighter in the gentlest way against his obstacles and for his friends.

And also Barbara Eden, before "Dallas" there was the hit show "I dream of Jeanne." And so Barbara with Larry Hagman's co-star back then in the 1960s. People sometime forget that. You didn't service before it was "Dallas." And so, Barbara wrote, amidst a whirlwind of big laughs, big smiles, and unrestrained personality, Larry was also simply Larry. You couldn't fault him for it. It was just who he was.

So, this is sampling here of the way Hollywood has been showing their support to this great legend who works at the very end. You know, he was filming scenes for the remake or reboot of the hit "Dallas" series, again, from the 1970s. This take was done by TNT, a division of - like CNN, a division of Time Warner and Turner Broadcasting. So, he had been filming scenes, taking as so supporting to He actually taped six episodes, six of the 15. So, he worked until the end doing what he loved, Fred.

WHITFIELD: Sure did. All right, thanks so much. Kareen Wynter there in Hollywood. And coming up in a few minutes, we have one of the last interviews Larry Hagman did before his death.

And Hector "Macho" Camacho, the former boxing champion who beat such fighters as Roberto Duran and Sugar Ray Leonard is dead. Earlier today, his family took him off life support. He had been declared brain dead after being shot in the face Tuesday night outside a bar near San Juan, Puerto Rico. At the bottom of the hour, 3:30 eastern time, we'll look back at the life of Hector "Macho" Camacho.

And the FBI nabbed one of its top ten most wanted fugitives. Jose Luis Saenz was arrested Thursday night in Mexico, exactly where, still not known. He now faces prosecution in Los Angeles for the murder of two rival gang members, his girlfriend back in 1998, and another murder ten years later. The FBI had offered a $100,000 reward for information leading to his arrest.

A veteran sheriff's deputy in Alabama is dead, and another critically injured. Deputy Scott Ward and another officer were shot when they were called to a home to settle a family dispute that got out of hand. The suspect, Michael Jansen, allegedly confronted the officers when they arrived and then allegedly opened fire. Police say Jansen was also shot and killed.

Investigators are trying to figure out what caused a massive explosion at a strip club in western Massachusetts. Fortunately, the area was evacuated after someone complained about a strong gas odor. Among the 18 people hurt, firefighters and gas company workers. The explosion leveled the strip club and damaged two dozen other buildings.

All right, moving overseas now, to Egypt. Demonstrators there have taken to the streets in Cairo to protest against President Mohamed Morsi. Morsi expanded his own powers this week and that means no one can challenge his decisions.

Let's go live now to CNN's Reza Sayah who joins us from Cairo.

So Reza, one day Morsi is a hero, having played a major role in brokering the ceasefire deal across the border between in Israel between Israel and Hamas. And then, he's being called a dictator. So what gives?

REZA SAYAH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, the decision he's made domestically has made a lot of people angry. Some of those angry people are still out here. It's 11:00 p.m. Cairo time. The demonstrators are still out there, not the big numbers that we saw on Friday, just a few thousand of them in Tahrir Square. I'm going to carefully step aside and have our cameraman zoom in for a live look at what Tahrir Square looks like at this hour.

We were just out there a short time ago. It's a remarkable scene. You see a variety of sites. There's about 30 tents out there, food stands as people picnicking, engaged in heated debates about politics and political figures. I would say some of the most politically active and engaged people in the Middle East are in that square right now. That's the peaceful site.

Sometimes things get ugly. About 40 minutes ago, we saw a flurry of clashes, a number of protesters. These are the young men looking to cause trouble, seemingly, started throwing rocks. Police responded by firing stun grenades and tear gas, chased them back. You have seen similar clashes throughout the day, and that's what we have seen. These are protesters, very upset with these controversial decrees announced by Mr. Morsi Thursday - Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: And so Reza, you know, while we see these citizens who are making their voices heard, what about the judges? You know, hearing from Morsi that they can't even overrule or enforce any law, overrule Morsi himself?

SAYAH: Yes, of course, one of the decrees essentially dismantled the judiciary, disabled the judiciary, at least temporarily until the parliament is formed. The judiciary responded today by calling for a nationwide judges strike. It's not clear if all of the judges are going to take part in the strike. Remembers, there are a lot of judges who actually support Mr. Morsi. But, if this strike takes into effect and it lasts a long time, it could have a disruptive effect on things again. This is another faction, the judiciary that is not happy with the decrees. This was their response, a nationwide strike - Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: OK. And then this million man march is being, I guess, encouraged next week by whom and why?

SAYAH: Yes. These are the opposing political factions who oppose Mr. Morsi. They have called for a million man sit-in and protests here in Tahrir Square. But, what does Mr. Morsi and his Muslim brother hood movement do? They call for a million man protest as well. Remember, the Muslim brotherhood is a very powerful organization. They have been around for a very long time. They can mobilize very effectively. So what you have is competing protests scheduled for Tuesday here in Cairo. It could make for an explosive situation, some critical days ahead for this country, Fredricka.

All right, Reza Sayah in Cairo. Thanks so much.

Thirty eight days and counting, will America go over the $7 trillion fiscal cliff?

Online retailers are getting a head start this season, competing for your money as well. We'll look at how facebook is joining in on the holiday fun.

And the drug culture of the '60s and '70s is still impacting baby boomers. Some are calling it the generation's hidden crisis. We'll explain.


WHITFIELD: U.S. Congress returns to Washington next week with just over a month to work out a deal to avoid falling over the so-called $7 trillion fiscal cliff. It will trigger a combination of seat across the board spending cuts and tax increases including tax and defense. Expiration of the Bush era tax cuts, expiration of the payroll tax holiday and tax in unemployment benefits, all those things being considered.

So, joining us now is Republican strategist Alex Castellanos. Good to see you.


WHITFIELD: So, before we even get to that fiscal cliff, let's talk about one of the things that they talk about, whether it's raising taxes, revenue; however you want to define it. Republican senator Saxby Chambliss of Georgia actually broke ranks with a tea party activist Grover Norquist and his anti-tax pledge. Chambliss signed that pledge after he first ran in 2008. But here's what he told our CNN affiliate in Macon, Georgia, about his commitment thus far to that pledge.


SEN. SAXBY CHAMBLISS (R), GEORGIA: Times have changed significantly. I care more about the country than I do about a 20-year-old pledge. I think we owe the debt and we got to figure out a way to pay it.


WHITFIELD: And of course, that pledge creator, Grover Norquist, fired back on CNN "THE SITUATION ROOM" just yesterday.


GROVER NORQUIST, PRESIDENT, AMERICANS FOR TAX REFORM: The commitment he made to the people of Georgia was not to me. It was a written commitment to the people of Georgia, that he would go to Washington to reduce government spending and reform government, not raise taxes. If he wants to change his mind and become a tax increaser, so we don't have to reform government, he needs to have that conversation with the people of Georgia.


WHITFIELD: So Alex, you know, the big question is, do you see other leading Republicans calling kind of following Chambliss' suit?

CASTELLANOS: I think so, Fredricka. I think a lot of Republicans believe that elections have consequences, and President Obama was pretty clear during the election if he was re-elected, he was going to let the Bush tax cuts expire on upper income taxpayers. And most Americans seem to agree with him. You know if you ask 99 percent of the American people if you should raise taxes on the other one percent and not them, I think you can guess what they would do. And elections have consequences. That's where we are. I think you will see some other Republicans.

WHITFIELD: This is quite the tight rope for a lot of Republicans. Even John Boehner was reticent in saying, you know, OK, I'm ready to raise taxes. He still is talking about maybe the health care reform act taking some sort of hit. But then therein lies the question that so many Americans, they want to see some kind compromise. What is it going to take? What is going to be the area where either side is willing to compromise?

CASTELLANOS: Well, I think Republicans are going to want to see some real spending cuts. The situation has changed. We are in an untenable situation, spending so much more than we're taking in. Right now, when you look at President Obama's proposed spending cuts, a lot of them are leisure. They're cuts in there, for example, that are already agreed upon. In other words, we already have. So you can't really count those. There are other things he called spending cuts which are for wars we're not going to fight. He's going to save a trillion dollars not fighting wars that we're not going to fight anyway. So that's like me saying I'm going to give you a trillion dollars, no, I'm not. And then imaging that somehow I've got that trillion in my pocket all of a sudden, it's not real money. Most of the money is coming from tax cuts, from letting the tax cuts expire. That's real money. The spending cuts, we really haven't seen yet. That's what Republicans are looking for, is President Obama going to tackle entitlement reform? That's where the real money is.

WHITFIELD: And do you see -- does it seem as though there really is light at the end of the tunnel that both sides are working really hard to beat this deadline, it's not just hyperbole but a real commitment to come to terms and answer to Americans who spoke as loud as they could on Election Day?

CASTELLANOS: You know, I think both sides are trying. But right now, if Santa may bring us a budget deal, but he doesn't know if Washington is going to be naughty or nice over these next 38 days. Before this -- it's going to put a lot of pressure on the economy if we head over the fiscal cliff. You know, we either have to fly or we fall. And if you let this budget - these tax increases expire, and if you get these automatic cuts, you're all of a sudden going to yank a lot of money out of the economy.

What does that mean? It means a smaller, shrinking economy all of a sudden. I think most people would like to avoid that. But, here's the good news. You don't need the Republicans to be unanimous. You only need some Republicans and a lot of Democrats. And that's kind of where we are right now.

WHITFIELD: All right, thanks so much. Good to see you from Washington.

CASTELLANOS: Good to see you.

WHITFIELD: All right, Melissa Stockwell, you may not know her name, but we have a story behind the name. She lost her leg after a roadside bomb hit her convoy in Iraq. But she turned tragedy around and started a new career in prosthetics. Hear her inspiring story.


WHITFIELD: Melissa Stockwell couldn't give up on life after a roadside bomb took her leg in Iraq, but she realized life doesn't stop because of a disability. Now she's a triathlete who is making history, inspiring other disabled people to live out their lives without limits. Her amazing journey in this week's "welcome home."


WHITFIELD (voice-over): April 13th, 2004, is a date Melissa Stockwell will never forget.

MELISSA STOCKWELL, IRAQ WAR VETERAN: It was the last day I ever stood on my own two legs. I was part of the U.S. army. And it was a routine convoy through central Baghdad. About ten minutes into the ride, we went under a bridge and this big boom, this big explosion goes off. The woman in front yelled, IED, IED. We have hit an IED. And I looked down and where my leg should have been, I saw blood. There's a few moments of let why me, why this happen to me, but it is other soldiers that are missing, you know, two limbs, three limbs, sometimes four limbs. And I looked at myself and I just really thought I'm one of the lucky ones. And I kind of made a decision then that I was going to live my life for those who didn't make it back at all.

WHITFIELD: A year after her injury, Stockwell went back to school for a new career in prosthetic.

STOCKWELL: Basically fit amputees with artificial limbs. I didn't know the (INAUDIBLE) until I needed a leg. And then, I thought, that was pretty cool.

WHITFIELD: She was also inspired to fight on a new battlefield.

STOCKWELL: There was a presentation all about the Paralympics and how you could go and represent your country. I dreamed of going to the Olympics as a gymnast when I was younger. And now, it almost a like had a second chance. So, I decided to try in the sports of swimming. Though, it is easy for me to swim. I didn't have to wear not have to wear parts of the foot.

WHITFIELD: In 2008, Stockwell became the first Iraq war veteran to be chosen for the U.S. Paralympics team.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm going to introduce our 2008 Beijing Paralympics team. Melissa Stockwell.

STOCKWELL: The feeling of just everything was supposed to happen, how it did. The whole journey from the streets of Baghdad and now is going to be in the pools of Beijing, just made me feel so alive.

WHITFIELD: Stockwell now hopes to run dare to try, a triathlon club that provides adaptive equipment and coaches for athletes with disabilities in the Chicago area.

STOCKWELL: Being an athlete and knowing what it's like to sit there and wonder if you'll walk again, run again, and to actually have someone not only tell you that you can but show you that you can and actually provide the resources for you to be able do it. You gain so much. That confidence is really takeover into all aspects of life.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let's hear it for Chris!


WHITFIELD: Incredible, inspiration. Dare to try is almost two years old now. The triathlon club allows young people, adults, and injured service members compete in cycling, swimming, and running.

And he defeated Roberto Duran and Sugar Ray Leonard and was one of the best in the ring. We will remember the great boxing champ Hector "Macho" Camacho next.


WHITFIELD: All right, we're following the deaths of two icons. Legendary Boxer Hector Camacho and the TV villain everyone loved to hate, Larry Hagman.

We begin with Hagman. He was best known, of course, for playing J.R. Ewing on the series "Dallas." And we saw J.R was famous as one of the great cliffhangers of television show history.

In one of his last interviews, Larry Hagman and his "Dallas" co-star Linda Gray sat down with Ron Corning in WFAA in Dallas, just a few weeks ago.


RON CORNING, REPORTER, WFAA: Let's talk about you two. Now I sense, and I have read, and I sense that you two are kind of besties, right? Would you say?

LARRY HAGMAN, ACTOR: I would say, I don't know about her.

CORNING: You know don't.

LINDA GRAY, ACTRESS: Is that cool? After all these years?

HAGMAN: He was always a fool.

GRAY: Larry has always been interesting to me, is that he plays the bad guy, but it's always with a twinkle and that little smile that unnerves you. It just tweaks you so he's not the flat bad guy. And he's not mean and he's not evil.

CORNING: He's the most likable villain on television.

GRAY: And the most talented actor.

HAGMAN: Are we recording this?

GRAY: Yes, we are.

HAGMAN: Yes. Thank you.

CORNING: You all seem like you are in this together, like in a real special way. Is that true?

HAGMAN: It's a team effort, that's for sure. Sure, I mean, Patrick Duffy and Linda Gray and are the elder statesmen and the originators of it, and the kids come along, they're our children or wives or mistresses, or whatever they are. They keep changing every other show. And you know, it's nice to see them come along and take over the horns, maybe drag me kicking and screaming into another 13-year series.


WHITFIELD: So that interview with Larry Hagman done just days ago. WFAA's Ron Corning is actually on the phone with us now.

So in the time that you spent with him, Ron, what were your impressions?

CORNING (via phone): My impression, Fredricka, of Larry Hagman is he's a guy who understood and recognized the iconic nature of J.R. and yet he sort of took it with a wink and a nod. He embraced it, but he wasn't defined by it. And what I think struck me most about that particular interview, the occasion in which we were there to interview him was just a few weeks ago for the launch of the Larry Hagman foundation, was that he wanted to give back. He said, to the city that helped make him so famous. And so he launched the Larry Hagman foundation to fund arts programs in Dallas and Ft. Worth for underserved children. And in fact, just this week, was scheduled to go to Dunbar elementary school who need a craft recreation center in the fair park area to give them a surprise grant and was involved with more fund-raising efforts in the spring.

And I want to just say that if you go to, they have a page in memory of him, but his foundation will continue. I spoke with a member of the foundation just a short time ago, and they know that Larry would want to continue it. And they wanted to continue as well.

WHITFIELD: That's good to know. You know, could you tell in your interaction with him that he was sick? I mean, I spoke with Larry King in the last hour, and he knows him fairly well. And he says he didn't even know that he was at a point in his health that he was this sick, that he would die.

CORNING: He was -- he was thinner than he was when he was last year shooting season one, but so robust in personality and so vigorous and passionate about this cause that I have to say that you would not expect when I sat there just a few weeks ago that that would be his last interview. He seemed to be planning for the future, and as you heard him say, thought maybe they would take him kicking and screaming into another 13 years.

WHITFIELD: All right, Ron Corning of WFAA, thanks so much for joining us and sharing that interview, one of it last interviews with Larry Hagman.

CORNING: You bet, Fred. Thanks.

WHITFIELD: And now to Hector "Macho" Camacho, the former boxing champion who beat such fighters as Roberto Duran and Sugar Ray Leonard. Earlier today, his family took him off life support.

CNN's Nick Valencia takes a look at the life of the man and how he is being remembered.


NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Ever the showman during his days in the ring, Hector "Macho" Camacho fought until two years ago. During his 30-year career, the former lightweight champion was known just as much for his flamboyance as he was for his quick hands and feet. The Puerto Rican who grew up in Harlem had fans and battles with some of the best Boxers in history, defeating Roberto Duran twice and knocking out boxing legend Sugar Ray Leonard.

But it was his battles with the law and drug addiction that continues after his boxing career ended. In 2011, he was shot by carjackers but not seriously injured. This week, the southpaw was shot in the face and severely injured while sitting in a car outside of a bar in Bayamon, Puerto Rico. The boxer's childhood friend was killed in the shooting.

Camacho was pronounced clinically brain dead. Saturday, he died after suffering a heart attack and being taken off life support. He was 50 years old.


WHITFIELD: Camacho won 79 fights and titles during his life.

And it's no secret that many people experimented with drugs in the '60s and the '70s, but now it's impacting baby boomers all over the U.S. We will explain how the drug culture of the past is leading to a doctor shortage.

Plus, waiting for those cyber Monday deals online is a thing of the past. We will take a look at how online retailers are getting a head start.


WHITFIELD: Today, a small business Saturday, a day when shoppers are encouraged to support local businesses in their communities. And President Barack Obama was one of those supportive shoppers.

Today, he took his daughters Malia and Sasha to one more page books, an independent book store in the Washington suburb of Arlington, Virginia. The president bought 15 children books, all of them Christmas presents for family members. And you can hear the folks outside cheering. Cheering to see the president and cheering to see him give the small businesses some business.

All right, all this ahead of cyber Monday and the discounts, the discounts actually are no longer just reserved for Monday. Online shoppers no longer need to wait for those deals. Websites launch their sales days before black Friday this year, and our CNN Money reporter, Laurie Segall takes us inside the changing world of online holiday shopping.


LAURIE SEGALL, CNN MONEY TECHNOLOGY REPORTER (voice-over): Cyber Monday spending is expected to top $1.5 billion this year. That's up from last year, but the nature of the day has changed. Like black Friday or now black Thursday, it starts earlier. Online deals were available every hour of black Friday on

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's just so lot easier to do it online.

SEGALL: A new player on e-commerce, facebook. Ahead of holiday seasons, the social network got into the gifting game launching facebook gifts.

This is seems like it is kind of facebook, actually taking a big step into e-commerce, right?

LEE LINDEN, FACEBOOK GIFTS: Well, we think of gifting as a unique form of commerce. It's special. So, we give it special attention.

SEGALL: Facebook Gifts allows you to send your virtual friends real- world gifts.

LINDEN: So, right from your news feed where you would post on someone's timeline for their birthday, you see a buy a gift button.

SEGALL: Facebook Gifts is designed with the Smartphone in mind.

LINDEN: Even n mobile, we build our products to be mobile first actually.

SEGALL: is one of facebook's leading partners in gifting.

JASON GOLDBERG, CEO, FAB.COM: The number one top product right now is Beardo. We have sold tens of thousands of Beardos. You're probably saying, what is a Beardo. Are you going to put it on?

SEGALL: I'm going to have you put that one on.

GOLDBERG: All right. So Beardo is like the perfect ski mask. It also functions as a beard.

SEGALL: Even one of that hot-seller focuses on the phone.

GOLDBERG: So, we're carrying around the iphones or androids all day. And we really need is, you know, I don't want to put it up to my ear all day, especially with my beard on. So, so you talk around talking like this.

SEGALL: Your Smartphone has blurred the line between in-store shopping and online shopping. Shopping apps like red laser enables you to buy products on your phone and pick them up in the store. And even if you're shopping in a store, you're often using an internet.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm using specific apps especially K-Mart to see where I can get the best deal.

SEGALL: One company is banking on the idea you'll do most of your shopping online. Slice is an app that comes through e-mail to track your online purchases and also provides a valuable tool.

Once the item was ships, we can automatically send you a push notification that says your package is shipped. We can tell you when it's up for delivery. We can tell you when it been delivered to your door.

SEGALL: So, this holiday season, online shopping at your desk on that first day of work, well, that may be a thing of the past.


WHITFIELD: Wow, really?

All right, Laurie with us now. So, you mentioned that Smartphones are changing cyber Monday and black Friday. How much more shopping is done through your phone than at that desktop?

SEGALL: Sure, think about it, Fredricka. I mean, think about it, Fredricka. In the past, we went to work on what is called cyber Monday. It was the first time we had access to this high-speed internet. But, that's all changed. A lot of us have access at our homes, and beyond that, think about how much you carry around your Smartphone, your tablet. We have access all the time.

And so, essentially what is happening now is a lot of retailers are putting out the deals earlier and making it easier if you actually purchase items on the phones. So, let me show you these numbers. You can see in the numbers. We took a look at mobile shopping on thanksgiving. So how many people were actually using their phones to shop on thanksgiving, up 66 percent from 2011. So, that's two thirds. That's a lot, Fredricka.


SEGALL: I know, and you have your ipad shopping. So, 11 percent of people are using their ipad to shop, nine percent using their iphones. We actually just got the numbers in from black Friday, also up about two thirds. So, you can see that this is a huge trend, and all these app developers, I talk to them all the time, Fredricka, and they're all developing apps to fortunately or maybe unfortunately make it easy to click a button and shop. We'll show you some of those tomorrow -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: Oh, really? OK. We look forward to thereat. So in meantime, you know, you have gotten facebook, I guess, gifts applications, too. What kind of gifts are we talking about? What are your friends going to get?

SEGALL: Sure. You know, they have rolled this out in the holiday season. And it enables you to go on facebook, buy different gifts for your virtual friends, buys this real world gifts. You can go on, you can buy t-shirts, coffee, you can buy coffee. They partnered up with Starbucks, the You saw in out package there. You can buy all types of items in a couple clicks on facebook and send them to your friends via facebook. It's cool and I hear they might allow you to send wine over facebook. That would be interesting.


SEGALL: I know. So, this has been really delving into e-commerce and really trying to make money off their billion users. WHITFIELD: It's amazing. It is changing so much.

SEGALL: I know.

WHITFIELD: All right, Lurie Segall. Thanks so much. Appreciate it.

SEGALL: Thanks.

WHITFIELD: So, does all this gift buying, visiting, quite stress you out this holiday season? It's not supposed to, but it does happen. How about those in-laws? I shouldn't say it like that. We're supposed to be happy to see them. Well, I'm going to talk to not one but two psychologists who will give some practical advice on how to cope with family this holiday season.


WHITFIELD: All right, feeling stressed out this holiday season? Well, maybe you're worried about not having the money to cover everyone on your gift list or you feel like checking into a hotel just to get away from the family. You're not alone.

A poll by the American psychological association found eight out of 10 Americans expect to get stressed out during the holiday season. And 44 percent of women and 31 percent of men feel more stressed out this time of year than at any other time.

Joining me now to talk about how to cope are two great psychologists, Jeff Gardere and Robi Ludwig.

Good to see both of you.

JEFF GARDERE, PSYCHOLOGIST: Great to see you, Fredricka.


WHITFIELD: OK. So Jeff, let me begin with you. You know, you say there are different kinds of stress, particularly this time of year that we need to try to get a handle on. And let us say it's self- imposed, right?

GARDERE: Yes. I would say that probably is the number one stress that is -- that we deal with, the stress that we put upon ourselves because we have this whole idea from everything we hear in the media, and we love the media, of course, but they're telling us we need to be perfect. We need to go out and get the gifts if we truly want to show our love and especially for the women. You saw the APA poll. It shows more women are stressed out than men. That's because women are the hostesses with the mostesses (ph). And they feel they have to do everything for everyone and everything has to be perfect at the dinner table.

WHITFIELD: OK. So, if it's mostly self-imposed, Robi, that means you have to look within to try to manage the stress, right? You have to talk yourself out of saying I have to do or be everything for everyone? LUDWIG: Absolutely. I mean, I think when we fall into this mythic idea that families all get along great and everybody is handling this holiday stress better than we are, that's when we can be really tough on ourselves. So part of it is taking really good self care. Make sure you're getting your rest that you're eating well. You're not drinking too much. Because once we treat our bodies badly, we have less emotional resourcefulness.

The other thing is really important to take back control. Sometimes when it comes to the holiday season, we feel we have to see people we don't want to see. We have to spend money that we don't have to spend. So it's really important to say to ourselves, you know what? Why are we doing what we're doing? And if it's not making us happy, if it's not something we have to do, maybe we don't need to go that route. And so once people give themselves choices again, take back that control, they feel much better about the holiday season.

WHITFIELD: So, it sounds like it's really the power of no. Sometimes, you know, we feel so compelled to say yes, I can do that for you. Yes, I can make that happen, but you just need to say, you know what, I have reached my personal limits and the answer is no. And I should feel OK about that.

GARDERE: You know, there is a very easy way to say no. And that's just by letting people know that you're doing the absolute best you can, and you can't go that much further. If you're giving them your heart and soul, then that's what matters. And you don't have to go beyond that point. So it's not about saying no, I refuse to do this. It's just saying, listen, I have done a lot. Maybe you can help me do a little bit more, or you could take over or do some of this. And that's why I love delegating as much as possible, especially if you're putting together these holiday parties and these get-togethers.

WHITFIELD: So that really kind of lays out some of the things where you may have some control. Then there are other circumstances around the holiday season where maybe, you know, the holidays kind of symbolize that loss of a great friend or a loss of a loved one and it's just difficult to get through it. And you know, you see everybody around you that are celebrating, Robi, but then you feeling, you know, you have blues there. And that, too, kind of heightens the stress level. What can one do?

LUDWIG: You know, the holiday season reminds us sometimes of who is not around. It reminds us in some cases of what the same, and what not the same. And sometimes we're not going to feel our best during the holiday season and for good reason. But that's why it's really important to give yourself permission to have whatever reaction you have, and to put yourself in a really supportive place. Put yourself around supportive people. And if for some reason you have very complicated family relationships and you feel that the family is not the ideal place to be for an extended period of time, go donate your time. But the most important thing is to be kind to yourself and realize some years are not as great as other years. That's OK and that there's still hope for better years to come.

WHITFIELD: All right -- GARDERE: And that's why I think we should really celebrate the memories of those people who aren't there with us because they would want us to be happy, and what a tribute to them that we have been able to move on with our lives and be able to share the greatest memories we have had about we have had around -- about them around the dinner table and around the celebratory times.

WHITFIELD: Great advice from both of you.

Doctors Jeff Gardere, Robi Ludwig. Thanks so much and happy holiday season.

LUDWIG: Same to you.

GARDERE: Same to you, Fredricka. Great to see you.

WHITFIELD: All right, thank you.

All right, talk about traffic going right through your front yard. Take a look at this building in China. A highway literally building around it after an elderly couple simply refused to leave that building.


LUO BAOGEN, FARMER (through translator): What can I do? I was born here. It is fine if the government buries me here. I won't move, if they only give me 260,000. How can I rebuild a house like this, with only 260,000?

ZHAO MIAOOIN, VILLAGER (through translator): This building being in the middle of the road is a threat to people's safety so I think it needs to be demolished, but when they knock it down, they should give reasonable compensation to ensures basic livelihood so that it can build a new home. They need to be more reasonable. The government needs to consider the interests of the people.


WHITFIELD: Oh, my, well, the local government built the road for access to a new train station. But tougher laws in China meant that they couldn't just evict the couple when they refused to move out.

All right, some baby boomers spent their college year's kind of experimenting with illegal drugs. Well, we will show you how the drug culture from the '60s and the '70s is creating a hidden crisis for the boomer generation.


WHITFIELD: All right, if you were born between 1946 and 1964, you are one of the more than 80 million Americans who can officially call yourself a baby boomer. Well, quite a few of them spent their early adult years experimenting with drugs that are still impacting them years later.

Casey Wian reports on some are calling the hidden crisis of the baby boomer generation.


CASEY WIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Jefferson airplane's lyrics captured the experienced of millions of baby boomer like Von Era (ph).

VAUGHN HARRIS, BABY BOOMER: You know you had Timothy Lirington (ph) thing, you have Woodstock, the hippie generation. You know, I came up doing all that.

WIAN: 66-year-old Harris started to experiment with marijuana and LSD in the 1960s.

HARRIS: Even with girls, I was a little shy, you know, and when I started to use different substances to gain that false courage.

WIAN: He graduated to heroin, seven intensive prisons, most for stealing to support his habit.

HARRIS: I liked the life-style. You get it naked to the lifestyle.

WIAN: 12 years ago, the 12-step program helped Harris leave that life for a steady job at a glass company. Then, came a series of personal crisis, the death of his wife, recession-related cutbacks at work that reduced his income and health problems that inflated his medical bills.

HARRIS: Things started to happen. And I finally went to specialist and he said, you know what, some of the things that you're suffering from is stress.

WIAN: Harris stayed clean, but was diagnosed with depression. His case is an example of what the future could hold for millions of baby boomers.

DOCTOR DREW PINSKY, HLN HOST, DR. DREW: I have been seeing it for a while, older people who have a problem with addiction. But, it is not just prescription drugs. It's alcohol, it is illicit drugs and they are extremely difficult to treat. The brain is less plastic as we age, because it is harder to make change.

WIAN: Compounding the difficulty, the United States is expected to face a severe shortage of mental health professionals, to treat what Dr. Dan Blazer of Duke University calls "hidden crisis".

DOCTOR DAN BLAZER, DUKE UNIVERSITY: We're seeing a group of (INAUDIBLE), that is a group of persons aging out, these are the baby boomers who have used all sorts of drugs a lot more than the previous co-horts (ph) have. And so that is one reason the substance abuse problem is great. Somewhere between five and eight million people today are suffering from mental health or substance abuse problems. That number is going to increase significantly as the baby boomers age.

WIAN: Grief, when friends and loved ones die, declining physical health and reaction to medication, can all contribute to a need for mental health care. The Institute of Medicine recommends a re-design of Medicare to guarantee coverage for mental health conditions and substance abuse. Harris says his depression is under control, thanks to treatment, but worries about the others of his generation.

HARRIS: What happens if they don't have access to it? Then what happens? They keep doing what they're doing then, they end up dead or end up doing something. So it is extremely important.

WIAN: Casey Wian, CNN. Los Angeles.

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