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Threat of Homegrown Terrorism on the Rise?; Cyber Terror Hunter; Nude Pictures of Heather Mill McCartney Surface
Aired June 7, 2006 - 20:00 ET
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PAULA ZAHN, CNN ANCHOR: Hi, everyone. Appreciate your joining us tonight.
Here is what is happening at this moment.
In Washington, an open battle breaks out between powerful Republicans, as Senator Arlen Specter lashes out at Vice President Dick Cheney. Senator Specter, chairman of the Judiciary Committee, demanded information on the National Security Agency's domestic surveillance program and threatened subpoenas if he doesn't get cooperation.
At Fort Benning, Georgia, the FBI has arrested a Saudi man training as a translator. He has been charged with threatening to blow up an airliner. He allegedly made that threat when he learned he would had been denied security clearance and wouldn't get a job.
In New York, more than two dozen people are under arrest tonight, charged with illegally obtaining hundreds of green cards. The office of Immigration and Customs Enforcement says the group made more than $1 million using fake documents to get those green cards.
We have some breaking news tonight about disturbing new information in the investigation into whether U.S. Marines murdered 24 Iraqi civilians in Haditha last November. Pentagon officials say, so far, the investigation tends to support allegations that the Marines carried out an unprovoked massacre after one Marine was killed by a roadside bomb.
And sources say some of the strongest evidence is a set of pictures taken by another group of Marines who arrived later and helped clean up the scene.
Tonight, for the first time, we can tell you what photographs of the victims show. CNN is the first news organization to get a chance to examine those images.
Senior Pentagon correspondent Jamie McIntyre reports now on what they show.
JAMIE MCINTYRE, CNN SENIOR PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: Paula, CNN has seen a set of 30 digital images shot by a U.S. military exploitation team designed to document the incident at Haditha. The images of men, women and children, according to Pentagon sources, are some of the strongest evidence that, in some cases, the victims were shot inside at close range, not killed by shrapnel from a roadside bomb or by stray bullets from a distant firefight, as Marines first claimed.
CNN was allowed by a source to examine copies of the 30 photographs taken just hours after the killings, which a military official tells CNN match, in both number and description, the pictures in the possession of investigators.
However, the source would not provide the images to CNN, out of concern for personal repercussions. There are images of all 24 bodies, each marked with numbers in red. Some of the numbers, one through 24, are written on foreheads. Others are on the victim's back.
A senior military official tells CNN, in some cases, the numbers may denote the location of bullet wounds -- among the images, a woman and child, possibly mother and daughter, leaning against a wall, heads slumped forward, another woman and child shot in bed, a man sprawled face down with his legs behind him, and an elderly woman slumped over, her neck possibly snapped by the force of gunfire.
All the victims were wearing casual attire. Some had been shot in the head. Some were face down, others face up. The pictures appear to show the locations of the bodies in the houses before the Marine unit loaded them onto a truck and sent them to the morgue.
Pentagon officials say, at this time, there are no plans to release the gruesome images, even after the criminal investigation is complete. Like the images of detainee abuse at Abu Ghraib prison, they say, the Haditha photos would simply serve to incite anti- American fervor and therefore constitute a threat to national security.
Now, the Haditha pictures raise some basic questions about what higher-ups knew and when they knew it. Did the commanders ever see the images? Did they realize that the photographs contradict the official account? Did they seek the truth, or did they just not want to know?
And, Paula, that's what one of two investigations is trying to find out.
ZAHN: Jamie, thanks so much. The story is still developing. Jamie McIntyre will have much more on "ANDERSON COOPER 360" tonight at 10:00 p.m. Eastern. And, on the same program, John Roberts will have a minute-by-minute account of what exactly happened in Haditha.
Now on to the CNN "Security Watch" and alarming new details about an alleged terrorist plot that seems to reach far beyond Canada. As we speak, Canadian authorities have 17 men and boys in custody, and say they were planning a horror that could have rivaled 9/11, bombed buildings, a TV network takeover, even the beheading of Canada's prime minister.
Tonight, we have learned that the tentacles of this alleged plot reach even farther, across oceans and, yes, right here into the United States.
Homeland security correspondent Jeanne Meserve has the very latest, very frightening details.
JEANNE MESERVE, CNN HOMELAND SECURITY CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The 17 arrested in Canada over the weekend are part of a larger web of terrorism, U.S. officials and experts say, that reaches into the United States, Britain, Bosnia, Sweden, Denmark and Bangladesh. It is a web created and maintained over the Internet.
NED MORAN, TERRORISM RESEARCH CENTER: Anyone from around the world can log on, get the ideology and get the recipes, get the operational plans, and then move forward.
MESERVE: In Bosnia, in October of last year, authorities uncovered the first clues, evidence that led them to London, officials say, and the arrest of Younis Tsouli.
Internet experts and officials believe that Tsouli, a computer expert, was, in the cyber-world, Irhabi 007. Irhabi means terrorist in Arabic. Irhabi 007 created Web sites, including this one for Abu Musab al-Zarqawi that facilitated communication between Arab extremists and English speakers.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He was posting training videos about how to make suicide bomb belts, posting propaganda videos, such as the horrific attack against Nicholas Berg, the American killed in Iraq.
MESERVE: Law enforcement found on Tsouli's computer what appeared to be surveillance video, some possible targets in Washington, D.C., videos that were taken, officials say, by two Atlanta men, Syed Haris Ahmed and Ehsanul Islam Sadequee, who are now in U.S. custody.
Efforts to reach their lawyers were unsuccessful. In addition, U.S. officials say, there is evidence the Americans e-mailed some members of the Canadian group, some of whom, U.S. officials say, used chat rooms frequented by Islamist militants.
And the BBC is reporting that the Canadians had links to two people arrested in Britain Wednesday on terrorism charges. Each cluster of suspects, experts say, was largely self-contained.
JOHN MILLER, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, FBI: What you have then created is a larger number of smaller networks, where they recruit themselves and each other, where they finance themselves and each other, and where they launch their plans with there own wherewithal.
MESERVE: What connects them is their radical philosophy and cyberspace. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: These are terrorists who are using the tools of technology to further their goals.
MESERVE (on camera): Canadian technology officials say that, on any given day, there are about 4,500 active extremist Web sites. If there is an upside, experts say, it is that users sometimes leave clues that help law enforcement track them down.
Jeanne Meserve, CNN, Washington.
ZAHN: It's been nearly five years since 9/11. Has terrorism changed so much that countries need to be more concerned with their own angry citizens than with terrorist infiltrators from the outside?
Joining me now is David Harris, a former official with the Canadian Security Intelligence Service and an expert on terrorism.
Thanks for joining us tonight.
DAVID HARRIS, FORMER CHIEF OF STRATEGIC PLANNING, CANADIAN SECURITY INTELLIGENCE SERVICE: Thanks, Paula.
ZAHN: Was this group capable of pulling off this plot?
HARRIS: Well, of course, nobody has been convicted of anything yet.
But it looks as though, altogether, there had been comprehensive planning done. The extent of this and the hatred underlying it has really been a cataclysmic shock to the Canadian psyche. So, I think it's fair to say that this seems to have held great promise for hideous damage.
ZAHN: When you talk about the hatred underlying all this, we just heard Jeanne Meserve talk about the radical philosophy that seemed to bind them together. What else can you tell us about that?
HARRIS: Well, there seems to be an interweaving, really, phenomena that we're struggling with in Canada and elsewhere.
Part of it is, in Canada, an immigration and refugee situation that is largely out of control, with gigantic numbers, almost incomparable to those taken in by Western countries. And this means that a small strain of certain communities can bring in the opposite of liberal, pluralist and tolerant values.
At the same time, of course, there is the Internet program. And this means that the worst forms of hatred can be propagated to great effect. Beyond that, the whole life cycle of a terrorist and terrorist operation can be facilitated by the Internet.
You see the training. You see the seduction, the grooming of people who might be brought into terrorism, all kinds of things like this adding up, the talent spotting, right on to operational planning and formulae for explosives, martial arts training. It just goes on and on, Paula.
ZAHN: What is the possibility that this group of men and -- and young boys is tied to any sleeper cells here in the United States?
HARRIS: Anything is possible. There have been these indications that Jeanne indicated earlier on, you remember, concerning two people in the Georgia area.
One of the difficulties is that communications is so easy, and the enemy are so effective at undertaking it, that you almost don't know how cross-fertilization is going to work and what could stimulate developments on another continent.
ZAHN: Of course, that's the great fear of all of us watching this as it unfolds.
David Harris, thank you so much for your expertise tonight.
HARRIS: Thanks, Paula.
ZAHN: And we are going to move on now.
More than 18 million of you went to our Web site today. Our countdown of the top 10 most popular stories starts with President Bush in Omaha, Nebraska, talking up immigration reform. Today, he had a message for immigrants themselves, saying they should be sure to -- quote -- "learn the values, history and language of America."
Number nine -- Chuck Yeager, the first pilot to fly faster than the speed of sound, is suing his four children in federal court. He accuses them of diverting hundreds of thousands of dollars from his pension fund -- numbers eight and seven just ahead.
Plus, we will have some absolutely amazing pictures for you, police officers putting their lives on the line on camera.
ZAHN (voice-over): "Outside the Law" -- desperate fights, deadly weapons, and police car videos of confrontations that will make you wonder, how did they ever get out of this alive?
"Beyond the Headlines" -- in mainstream America, she's a small- town judge, but, in cyberspace, she takes on dozens of different identities, making contact with international terrorists -- all that and more just ahead.
ZAHN: Wandering husbands, beware. The sex spy may be watching you. Coming up, how far will this private detective go to catch men who cheat?
Here's what is happening at this moment. In Arizona, air tankers and choppers fighting a wildfire near the town of Mayer. The wildfire threatens a major power line feeding electricity into Phoenix. And fire near the Navajo Nation has forced evacuations around Window Rock.
Coming home tonight, landing at Andrews Air Force Base, wounded CBS Kimberly Dozier. She remains in critical condition, after being injured by a roadside bomb in Baghdad.
More moves in the nuclear standoff with Iran -- Russian's foreign minister said he hopes Iran will respond by July to the program of incentives to stop its uranium-enrichment program. Iran has said it will resume talks after studying the proposals. The U.S., Russia and China all want Iran to stop its nuclear development program.
We continue now with the CNN "Security Watch" and the ever- changing threats posed by terrorists. This weekend's arrests in Canada got everyone's attention because the alleged plotters were Canadian citizens.
This so-called homegrown terrorism is a new worry, on top of the threat posed by outsiders, like the September 11 hijackers. Yesterday, former 9/11 Commission co-chairmen Tom Kean told a congressional committee that, if it were possible, he would give the government a lower grade than an F in several key areas of national security. And I spoke with him just a short time ago.
ZAHN: What kind of wakeup call do you think the alleged Canadian plot should be to homeland security?
THOMAS KEAN, FORMER CHAIRMAN, 9/11 COMMISSION: This should be a tremendous wakeup call, because it's right across the border. Those people are there. Canada is a country very much like us. It could happen here if it could happen there.
And, if we're not ready, if we don't have intelligence apparatus in shape, if we are not talking to one another, in -- in -- in terms of security, if we're not doing any of those things, we are opening ourselves up to -- to potential attack.
ZAHN: How likely do you think that a plot like we have seen just unfold in Canada could happen here?
KEAN: I think it's happening.
ZAHN: You think it's happening?
KEAN: I would be very surprised if there were not plots right now that were being hatched. The question is whether we can disrupt them.
ZAHN: If you think that there are similar plots being hatched here in the U.S., where is law enforcement in all of this? KEAN: I would hope that, somewhere in the FBI, if, as I suspect, there are some plots being hatched, that there is an FBI agent who knows something about them, that he's doing things that might disrupt them, that somebody is going to get arrested on the way, the materials are going to be found, that something is going to happen, that -- that we are on top of this. I don't know...
ZAHN: But you didn't say if the plot is being hatched. You said, you were convinced planning is going on right now in sleeper cells in this country.
KEAN: I would be very surprised if it were not, and, if certainly not in this country, outside of this country, to do us harm.
ZAHN: With as critical you have been of the Homeland Security Department, the TSA, what you see as a woefully inadequate terrorism watch list, what position do you think the U.S. government is in tonight in stopping a potential plot like this?
KEAN: Not where they should be.
I mean, people have asked me, are we safer today than we were before 9/11? The answer is, yes, we're safer, but we are not safe. We are moving terribly slowly in some of these areas. We have got to move a lot faster. I can give you a list. We made 41 recommendations on the 9/11 Commission.
When we graded those recommendations about six months ago, there were a lot more F's than there were A's. And the grades haven't changed very much in the last six months. So, we're moving at a snail's pace, where we really should be moving very, very fast. And some of these things can be done if they -- if they're on the top of the priority list, instead of on the bottom.
ZAHN: Governor Kean, thank you...
KEAN: OK. Thank you.
ZAHN: ... so much for dropping by tonight.
KEAN: Thank you.
ZAHN: Appreciate your time.
KEAN: Thank you.
ZAHN: One more thing from our conversation -- Governor Kean told me that all of the 9/11 Commission members, Republicans and Democrats alike, feel that no one is taking homeland security seriously enough. And Governor Kean is concerned that there may be another terrorist attack here before homeland security is taken seriously enough. In a minute, we are going to meet a secret weapon in the war on terror. And she's the last person you would expect. How does a working mom from Montana, a judge, make contacts with would-be terrorists in cyberspace?
First, number eight on our CNN.com countdown -- in Iraq, nearly 600 Iraqi detainees were freed today. It was the largest release since the U.S. invasion. The prime minister said he hopes this will help end the continuing violence in Iraq.
Number eight, a new report alleging the CIA is behind a web of secret prisons in Eastern Europe. That report comes from the Council of Europe, which also alleges the agency is behind the transfer of terror suspects to other countries -- numbers six and five straight ahead.
Please stay with us.
ZAHN: We have been talking tonight about the alleged Canadian terror plot. And investigators reportedly used e-mail in their case against the Canadian terror suspects.
E-mail is also the weapon used by the woman you are about to meet. She is a working mom in Montana, a judge who, all by herself, is striking back at terrorism.
Her story takes us "Beyond the Headlines" tonight.
ZAHN (voice-over): By day, Shannen Rossmiller is a mother of three, a municipal judge in a small town in Montana. But, when night falls, she fights her personal war against terrorism, and she does it all from her home computer, tracking would-be terrorists who, in some cases, are ready to take action.
JUDGE SHANNEN ROSSMILLER, CONRAD CITY, MONTANA: Basically, what I'm trying to do is to, you know, probe them, to see if they're just a big talker, or if they have access to contacts or information that might be valuable to know, if -- if they are part of any group that might be, you know, in the process of, you know, trying to prepare or conduct any kind of attacks. And, you know, I'm still surprised to this day that I run into that stuff. It -- and it's -- it's out there.
ZAHN (on camera): They are that overt in their communication?
ROSSMILLER: If they feel secure.
ZAHN (voice-over): It was Rossmiller's own insecurity about U.S. vulnerability and outrage after 9/11 that started her on this strange journey from knowing nothing about terrorism to becoming a successful mole deep within its core. (on camera): Shannen, how do you explain that you didn't even start studying Arabic until after 2001 and really hadn't invested yourself in the Middle East cultures until the fallout of what happened on September 11, 2001...
ROSSMILLER: Yes. Right.
ZAHN: ... and here you are, helping solve some really important cases?
I guess I had talents and abilities I wasn't really aware of that I have been able to tap into. And, for me, it was the determination of just trying to, you know, stop this. And it still angers me every day.
ZAHN (voice-over): What started as curiosity soon turned into a passion. She learned Arabic, read history, and ventured online, creating the identities of more than two dozen al Qaeda sympathizers. But Shannen Rossmiller didn't assume just the sympathizer's name.
ROSSMILLER: Every identity that I use, I have a street address. I have a name. I have the mosque. I know the imams. I know as much as I can know about that neighborhood, what's going on there.
ZAHN: Worlds away from her small town in Montana, she started lurking in Internet chat rooms. She learned about what motivates potential jihadists and what frustrates them.
ROSSMILLER: Sometimes, you know, it might be frustration, when it leads to desperation, whatever that be, financial, you know, to get these things going. Sometimes, it's surreal, but I always have that knowledge that, you know, this is -- this is not a game, you know?
ZAHN: To set her traps, Rossmiller's online character offers help, money, logistics, and support. In return, she gets information, how to build a bomb, how to train for a terrorist attack. It's a risky dialogue, a relationship based on false trust. Rossmiller must tread carefully.
(on camera): Over the course of four-and-a-half years, you have assumed the identifies of some 24 different fake males. How do you know that, online, when you're corresponding with someone, that they're not doing the same thing to you?
ROSSMILLER: They very well could be. But I -- I -- I communicate, you know, with the -- the federal intelligence agencies. And -- and they know my identities. And, if that were to happen, if I was to encounter someone, you know, attempting to do that, you know, the communications would stop immediately.
ZAHN (voice-over): When Rossmiller began to realize the information she was gathering could be valuable, she turned it over to the FBI. She says she was surprised to learn that law enforcement agencies were not patrolling in the same cyberspace world she was. (on camera): The FBI is learning from you.
ROSSMILLER: Well, they are getting -- yes, they are getting information and learning from me. And, then, I am from them. So, you know, it's -- it's a give-and-take process.
ZAHN: As you know, there are skeptics out there that say folks like you, who are self-appointed spies, are only emboldening the enemy, and that, in fact, now that your methods have become public, it will harden their motivation to come up with even more duplicitous ways to attack us.
ROSSMILLER: I have never called myself a self-appointed spy. I have never called myself a spy or a sleuth or anything. All I'm doing is out there utilizing what I have as gifts, skills, talents, whatever you want to call them, in order to be able to stop these people.
ZAHN (voice-over): Rossmiller says she doesn't know how much she's helping, but her intelligence gathering helped lead to the arrest and conviction of Specialist Ryan Anderson, a U.S. Guardsman about to be deployed to Iraq, and looking to assist al Qaeda.
Her e-mail exchanges with him were used as evidence. He was convicted of treason and sentenced to life in prison. Rossmiller will not reveal information about other cases on which she may have worked. Neither will the FBI.
But now, because of the National Guard case, her cover has been exposed. She's come to terms with that and wants others to know, they can help.
ROSSMILLER: Do I throw the towel in and say, oh, I have been outed; I no longer have anonymity; I'm done? Or do I step up to it and say, OK, well, we will make the best of this and keep going, because I feel it's something important? I know it's important.
ZAHN: In other words, she will still be logging on late at night.
ZAHN: The FBI refuses to comment about Judge Rossmiller's cooperation with the agency.
But a federal source familiar with her work confirms to us she has given the FBI useful information. The source says the testimony she provided and her involvement with another case in Pennsylvania speak to that fact. But the source wouldn't get into any more detail.
We are about to meet a different kind of spy, a private detective who is a real "Eye-Opener." She's beautiful. She's friendly and has all kinds of ways to trap a cheating husband. Does someone you know have a date with the sex spy?
Also, tiny video cameras are everywhere. And, when they're in police cars, the pictures can be astonishing. Stay with us for stories you have to see to believe.
And, a little bit later on, the soon-to-be-ex-Ms. -- that would be Mrs. Paul McCartney is back in the news. Why are we suddenly seeing a lot more of her than ever before? Wait until you see the pictures that aren't crossed out, like that one on the cover of the newspaper.
Now on to number six on our CNN.com countdown -- Senator Hillary Clinton lashes out at conservative author and pundit Ann Coulter, who described a group of 9/11 widows from New Jersey as -- quote -- "self- obsessed and enjoying their husbands' deaths." Coulter's remarks appear in her new book. Senator Clinton called Coulter's comments a mean-spirited and vicious attack. And Ann Coulter, the author, will be joining me here tomorrow night.
Number five -- the Senate today rejected a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage. The vote was 49-48 -- number four straight ahead.
ZAHN: Welcome back. According to a recent Gallup survey, just four percent of Americans say it's morally acceptable for married people to have affairs, which sounds like a no-brainer until you hear that any number of other surveys find that roughly half of adults admit they've cheated. That's why lots of people hire private detectives when they get suspicious about what their mates are up to. But when you see this next story, you may wonder whether one private eye goes a little too far. Deborah Feyerick has tonight's "Eye Opener."
DEBORAH FEYERICK, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Look at the happy couples. Holding hands, kissing. So happy, and so busted. Sandra Hope tails happy couples for a living. She's a private eye, a sex spy hired to catch cheating husbands and boyfriends.
(on camera): The women who come to you, what is it that they want?
SANDRA HOPE, PRIVATE EYE: They want to know the truth.
FEYERICK (voice-over): Lawyers, stock brokers, athletes. She's caught all types having too much fun with women who are not their wives or girlfriends.
(on camera): How many times have you found there was no cheating going on?
HOPE: Never. And it's only because the people who come to me already have suspicions, already have signs.
FEYERICK (voice-over): Sandra got into the spying business 12 years ago after her second marriage ended in divorce. Her company is called Mate Check. And her arsenal of gadgets includes tracking devices that look like cell phones.
(on camera): So they won't suspect that this is actually a tracking device.
HOPE: It's a phone. Exactly, it's a phone. Who knows whose phone it is, but it's a phone.
FEYERICK (voice-over): Video cameras, and binoculars that snap photos.
HOPE: I do a lot of athletes, so I can go to baseball games and basketball games and just be an average Joe.
FEYERICK: But her best weapon, herself. She often goes undercover as a decoy, wiring herself with a tiny camera, changing her appearance.
HOPE: Men aren't really looking at me going, is that a wig? That's not on their mind.
FEYERICK: Hope spends a lot of time with her female clients, getting to know the targets likes and dislikes so she can become the perfect date. She travels to cheating hot spots during so-called business trips. I met her in an outdoor restaurant in Scottsdale, Arizona where she often invites suspected cheaters.
(on camera): And he has no idea that you've been set up to this?
HOPE: Absolutely not or he wouldn't be here.
FEYERICK (voice-over): Some slip off their wedding rings. Others admit they're married, but ready and willing. We spoke to the National Council of Investigation and Security Services. Their spokesman calls the decoy tactics "unethical" and say they amount to "entrapment."
HOPE: I would be talking as we are talking, in this tone of voice. Just like this. There wouldn't be any closer, wouldn't be any touching, it wouldn't be any sex or come on, or anything like that whatsoever.
FEYERICK: Hope has applied for actual jobs and been hired as a bartender, secretary, and financial aid, just to keep tabs on a suspected cheater.
One of clients was Carlina Delgado (ph), who says when it came to one boyfriend, all the signs were there.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He wouldn't come home at night, he wouldn't call me back. I just had gut feelings that something was going on.
FEYERICK: For a while, the boyfriend convinced here it was all in her mind but eventually she hired Hope to find out whether he was lying.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You know, even though I went behind his back and did it, I felt that it was right to find out the truth.
FEYERICK: The truth it turns out, she was right.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I didn't want to just make it seem like it was my fault because then it was like, I was going crazy. I wanted proof.
FEYERICK (on camera): Why is it important for them to have both video and pictures?
HOPE: A lot of my clients like to take pictures and just throw the pictures at them, send them to their friends on e-mail.
FEYERICK (voice-over): Delgado (ph) broke up with the boyfriend, changed her phone number and moved. As for Sandra Hope, she loves what she does and hasn't soured on finding a guy if her own. The one thing she has learned about relationships?
HOPE: It's very hard to cheat. That's why they get sloppy and that's why they get caught. And signs start popping up because it's hard, it's very hard.
FEYERICK: The funny thing is, even with all of that cheating, the majority of her clients, thousands by her account ultimately choose to stay together and work things out, for better or worse. Deborah Feyerick, CNN, Scottsdale, Arizona.
ZAHN: All right, I've got some really amazing pictures to show you now. Just how dangerous is it to be a cop? Wait until you see this video. Shot from police car camera, ouch. No. 4 in the CNN.com countdown, a 22-year-old former New York University student today pleaded guilty into tricking investors into pouring more than $7 million into a fake hedge fund. Prosecutors say he lured his victims by posing as an heir to a wealthy Turkish family. He will be sentenced in September and faces up to 50 years in prison. We'll have No. 3 right after this.
ZAHN: All right, right now I want you to take a look at some amazing video. A 5'4 police officer trying to put the cuffs on a drug suspect who, get this, is nearly seven feet tall. It could have been disastrous if it had not been for a bystander that stepped in to help that tiny officer.
Now, that struggle was caught on tape, something that seems to be happening more and more these days thanks to cameras mounted on dashboards of police cruisers. They're making all of us witnesses to some of the very dangerous work police do, and sometimes the deadly consequences.
Here is Jason Carroll with tonight's Outside The Law.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) JASON CARROLL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): One night an Ohio state trooper pulled over a motorist for driving erratically. The dash camera in the officers patrol car captures how a traffic stop quickly escalates into a deadly struggle.
UNIDENTIFIED POLICE OFFICER: Put your hands up sir. I'm just going to pat you down.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's what I'm doing.
CARROLL: The driver draws a gun but drops it. Both men wrestle for the weapon and with each other for several moments until the officer manages to retrieve his gun. The trooper shoots the driver in the head and kills him. It's a dramatic example of what officers call one of their biggest concerns while out on patrol.
UNIDENTIFIED POLICE OFFICER: Dante, go ahead and undo your belt and step out here.
CARROLL: Routine traffic stops, that turn out to be far from routine. A driver who wants to fight.
UNIDENTIFIED POLICE OFFICER: Don't fight me ma'am.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why not?
UNIDENTIFIED POLICE OFFICER: Because, don't fight me.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm already in trouble. What difference would it make?
CARROLL: Again, a struggle for a weapon. The officer, in this case is eventually forced to shoot the woman. She does not survive.
Michigan state trooper Joel Service says most officers now need to be prepared for just about anything. Service had his own run-in with an unruly driver who led him and fellow officers on a high speed chase. The suspect rammed his vehicle into Service's patrol car, locking them together.
JOEL SERVICE, MICHIGAN STATE POLICE: I don't know, I must have been trained pretty well, because I think I was able to handle the situation pretty well. I didn't lose control. I was able to kind of keep my wits about me.
UNIDENTIFIED POLICE OFFICER: Good morning.
UNIDENTIFIED POLICE OFFICERS: Good morning, trooper.
CARROLL: Teaching recruits about the hazards of traffic stops is a major part of the training program for Connecticut state police. It goes way beyond the classroom.
UNIDENTIFIED POLICE OFFICER: Sir, I clocked you for 77 miles an hour in a 65 miles an hour zone.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think that's impossible.
CARROLL: Thanks to dashboard cameras and cop shows on TV, most recruits have already seen how real-life situations like this one can become dangerous in a hurry.
UNIDENTIFIED POLICE OFFICER: You're going to 1000, sir you'll stop. Whoa. Drop the gun. Drop the gun.
CARROLL: Eventually, this woman gave up and was taken into custody.
(on camera): When the recruits come in, are they asking, do you find are they asking better questions, having seen some of that stuff out there in the media?
STAN TERRY, CONNECTICUT STATE POLICE: They ask better questions. They're very familiar with police tactics.
CARROLL (voice-over): Because dash cam video is now so prevalent, most drivers who are stopped these days almost certainly know they're being taped. That doesn't always stop them from becoming violent.
UNIDENTIFIED POLICE OFFICER: I place you under arrest. I'm not going to let you go back to that vehicle.
CARROLL: Not even this driver's children can convince him to stop punching the officer.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILDREN: Dad, no. No, dad.
CARROLL: Some state troopers say all of the dramatic dash cam tapes might give a false impression.
(on camera): Are people worse now than they were many years ago when you were patrolling?
TERRY: I don't think so.
CARROLL: Are we seeing it more because of the dash cam?
TERRY: I think the dash cam is adding a lot more to public awareness of what's going on out there. I don't think people's behavior changed drastically.
CARROLL (voice-over): Even show, Michigan state trooper Joel Service has this advice for recruits about traffic stops.
SERVICE: Beware of the fact that it could happen, and it does happen. At some point in time in an officer's career, it is going to happen to him. He needs to be ready for it when it does.
CARROLL: In this kind of work, it's very dangerous to think that anything is routine.
Jason Carroll, CNN, Meridian, Connecticut. (END VIDEOTAPE)
ZAHN:: Terrible. It's time now for us to take a quick break from all of that. In our BIZ BREAK, a third straight day of losses on Wall Street. The Dow closed just below 11,000 for the first time since March. The Dow dropped about 71 points, the Nasdaq was down 10, the S&P seven.
Oil prices fell almost two dollars a barrel as inventories grew. The energy department said U.S. crude oil stocks gained a million barrels. Gasoline inventories were also up. But, former federal reserve chairman Alan Greenspan told a Senate committee that American households are struggling with rising gas prices and that that's beginning to effect economic growth.
Coming up next, what the heck is going on. The McCartneys, as you heard are parting ways and suddenly, the tabs are full of pictures of Mrs. McCartney, in compromising positions. Not what you're seeing here on the screen. You'll see a little bit later on.
Also, if you've had a job interview nothing went right. Then you're going to sympathize with a guy that's named Guy. He ended up on live TV, but it turned out he was the wrong guy. He was just there for a job interview. How did he make that mistake and what has happened to him since then?
For that and number three in our CNN.com countdown. American idol runner-up, Katherine Mcphee scores her own record deal. Two of the songs she performed on the show will be released later this month.
Number two on our list is right after this.
ZAHN: Check this out. We have incredible pictures coming in right now of some very rough weather in Central Arizona. Right now, Phoenix is getting socked by a severe thunderstorm. The wind is kicking up a huge cloud of dust; 50 mile an hour winds have grounded all planes at Phoenix's Sky Harbor Airport. Hope you weren't headed there tonight.
Some very different pictures are causing a dust-up in England. They are nearly nude, some say pornographic, pictures of the soon-to- be ex-wife of Paul McCartney. Timing is very interesting. The former Beatle and Heather Mills are getting divorced. A chunk of McCartney's billion dollar fortune may be on the line. It looks like its going to be a really nasty fight. The latest tonight from entertainment correspondent Brooke Anderson.
BROOKE ANDERSON, CNN ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT: Mere weeks after Sir Paul McCartney and Heather Mills announced they're ending their four year marriage, another bomb shell. Nude pictures of Mills surfaced this week in the British tabloid, "The Sun" and on its Web site. In the explicit photos, Mills is either nude or partially clothed. Posed with an unidentified man in the shower, covered with baby oil, sometimes with whipped cream or champagne. In one she's seductively eating a strawberry, in others she's holding a whip or wearing handcuffs.
NATHAN BRACKETT, ROLLING STONE: It seems like almost every model/actress has something from 20 years ago that they're probably ashamed of.
ANDERSON: Eighteen years ago in this case. The pictures are featured in a 1988 German sex book called "The Joys of Love." A spokeswoman for mills admits Heather did appear in the book, but explains, quote, "This is a lover's guide, not hard core porn and Heather did not have sex with the man in the photos."
According to "The Sun"'s official Web site, the book contained no words at all and more than 100 pages of images so explicit they couldn't print them all.
Since they announced their split, Paul McCartney has defended his estranged wife, posting regular messages on his Web site, including, quote, "One of the worst aspects of going through what Heather and I are currently going through is the malicious spreading of rumors and made-up facts."
When we contacted the former Beatle spokesperson to get the star's reaction to these explicit pictures he had no comment.
(on camera): The release of these pictures comes at a time when custody of the couple's young daughter is in question. Both Heather and Paul deny any decision has been made over two year old Beatrice.
(voice-over): It's just not clear if Heather's pictures from the past will in any way effect that decision in a British court. Brooke Anderson, CNN, Hollywood.
ZAHN: We'll soon see. Jeannie Moos has an update on a case of mistaken identity. What happened when a man went for a job interview ended up on TV by mistake and is now famous.
At the top of the hour, "LARRY KING LIVE" live inside California's notorious San Quentin prison.
No. 2 on our CNN.com countdown, authorities in South Carolina says a registered sex offender has confessed to the rape and murder of a Clemson University student. Tiffany Souers was strangled with a bikini top. Investigators also say the suspect has admitted to attacks in two other states.
And a much lighter story is the most popular item on CNN.com. Why is everyone interested in stargazing?
ZAHN: So, imagine becoming world famous for being the wrong guy. You might remember the story a couple weeks ago, a man who went into the job interview at the BBC and ended up thrown on the air live because somebody mistook him for a talk show guest. What has happened to him since then? Our Jeanne Moos has the answer.
JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: This is one face you don't forget.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Guy Chunie (ph) is the editor of the technology Web site --
MOOS: Actually, he was Guy Goma. He came to the BBC to interview for a job in information technology. They mixed him up with another guy named Guy and threw him on the air live being interviewed as an expert in trademark law.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hello, good morning to you.
GUY GOMA, WRONG GUY: Good morning.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Were you surprised by this verdict today?
GOMA: I'm very surprised to see this verdict to come on me.
MOOS: Guy became an overnight global sensation. His deer in the headlines expression plays continuously on the Guy Goma fan site. He's even had poetry written about him. "He's obviously no choker at life's game of poker." And everyone asks the same question.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you get the job?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Have you got the job?
MOOS: Now we know, he didn't. Despite a petition with over 5,000 names on it at guygoma.com.
(on camera): The BBC won't say why Guy didn't get the I.T. job, but he has gotten lots of other things.
For instance, his very own entry in the online encyclopedia, Wikipedia. He's gotten his very own celebrity P.R. rep, he's appeared on a big time British comedy show. A company that supplies free-lance TV technicians hired him to do an online commercial.
Don't adjust your sound. Guy plays a hapless technician who forgot to put a mike at the end of his poll. The company said it took a lot of takes to recreate the famous expression, but will Guy ever find the right job? In the meantime he's auctioning off his lucky blue shirt for charity, the one he wore during the surprise guest appearance. Bidding is up to more than $190.
P.S., Guy notes, the shirts has been worn a couple of times. Actually, we've seen it practically every time Guy's been in the public eye. Fans have put Guy's expression to music, even his words. A group called The Sex Bishops has sexed up Guy's delivery. Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.
ZAHN: Can't believe the BBC didn't give him a job after all that. His fan Web site, guygoma.com, is averaging about 20,000 visitors a day. Now on to number one on our countdown.
Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt making their first public appearance since the birth of their daughter, Shiloh. Meanwhile, "People and "Hello" magazines have launched legal action against two Web sites that have released pictures of the couple's baby before the magazines published them, and they paid a pile for those pictures. You can imagine how angry they are. That wraps it up from all of us here tonight.
Thanks so much for being with us. We'll be back same time, same place, tomorrow night. Hope you join us then. Have a great night. "LARRY KING LIVE" starts in about two seconds.
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