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Barry Bonds' Record Chase in Criminal Jeopardy?; The Real Face of Jesus?; Amber Alert Canceled For Missing 10-Year-Old Oklahoma Girl; Police Make Surprise Visit to Duke Campus
Aired April 14, 2006 - 20:00 ET
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PAULA ZAHN, CNN ANCHOR: Good evening, everyone. And thank you for joining us.
Tonight, we have some developments in a story we first broke right here on the air. What is one of the biggest stars in baseball saying about reports he's under investigation by the feds?
Will Barry Bonds' run at the record books be wiped out by a criminal indictment?
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BARRY BONDS, SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS BASEBALL PLAYER: You guys, the baseball game is in there.
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ZAHN: Did he tell the truth to a grand jury?
The "Eye Opener" -- seven years after the strongest tornado in recorded history, these people are still trying to get their insurance company to pay up. Is there a lesson here for hurricane victims?
And he's one of the world's most familiar figures, but what was the real face of Jesus? You're probably going to be surprised by what we show you tonight.
We start on this holiday with a bombshell echoing tonight throughout the sports world, the story we broke here last night: the grand jury investigation into whether baseball great Barry Bonds lied to a grand jury in 2003, a grand jury that was investigating a steroids distribution ring.
Bonds is just 48 home runs away from breaking one of baseball's most coveted records. And one of the big questions now is, could this investigation put that quest in jeopardy?
That story is tonight's "Outside the Law."
Ted Rowlands broke the story last night. He joins me now live from Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles, where Bonds and the Giants are playing tonight.
What do you have new there...
TED ROWLANDS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, and no sign...
ZAHN: ... besides rain?
ROWLANDS: Well, no sign...
ROWLANDS: Just started -- no sign of Barry Bonds for the Giants yet here in Los Angeles, and no comment yet from Barry Bonds as to the revelations that this grand jury has been convened and he's facing possible criminal prosecution.
However, in his reality show, he did indicate that he knew that he was still the subject of a federal probe into possible -- and -- and a federal probe, and possible charges against him.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Barry, do you have anything to say about this grand jury investigation?
BARRY BONDS, SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS BASEBALL PLAYER: No.
ROWLANDS (voice-over): Swamped by the media, Barry Bonds had nothing left to say last night, as he left the baseball stadium in San Francisco.
BONDS: They're not supposed to be in the hallway here.
BONDS: You guys can't -- you guys have to go to the clubhouse.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Back to the clubhouse.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We just want to know if you knew that...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's not speaking tonight.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... grand jury.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you, folks.
ROWLANDS: According to two sources familiar with the proceedings, Bonds is the focus of a grand jury probe, because federal prosecutors believe he lied under oath, when he testified during the 2003 BALCO scandal, that he had not knowingly used scandals.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, "BONDS ON BONDS")
BONDS: I'm being crucified by the media.
(END VIDEO CLIP) ROWLANDS: On the ESPN2 reality show "Bonds on Bonds," Barry Bonds appeared frustrated when he acknowledged that the federal government is still investigating him. He also says he didn't lie.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, "BONDS ON BONDS")
BONDS: I am still being investigated by the federal government. So, at this point and stage, they already have my testimony. So, they already know what I stated. And I stand by that 100 percent.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ROWLANDS: When he testified in 2003, Bonds was given immunity, meaning, if he told the truth, he would not be prosecuted.
MARK STARR, SENIOR EDITOR, "NEWSWEEK": The only way you could get in trouble in that grand jury, where all the players had immunity, was to lie. And it appears that Barry Bonds may have courted that trouble.
ROWLANDS: If, indeed, he did, Bonds would not be the first high- profile person to make a bad situation worse.
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WILLIAM J. CLINTON, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I did not have sexual relations with that woman.
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ROWLANDS: From Bill Clinton and Martha Stewart, to rapper Lil' Kim, many people have lied to grand juries or federal prosecutors.
TRENT COPELAND, LEGAL ANALYST: You're Barry Bonds, and you're someone like him, in the public eye, you may very likely be more concerned about your legacy than you are about telling the truth.
MICHAEL RAINS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY FOR BARRY BONDS: Barry Bonds is clean. Barry Bonds is a great athlete. Some people will never accept it for what it is.
ROWLANDS: Bonds and his lawyers have long maintained, he's being unfairly targeted by federal prosecutors, but many legal experts say, it is common for prosecutors to go after high-profile figures, like Bonds.
COPELAND: The core of our judicial system is that people must tell the truth, because if Barry Bonds can be indicted for perjuring himself, then, every guy on the street has got to know that he, too, could also be charged with perjury, if he doesn't tell the truth.
ROWLANDS: Barry Bonds is very close to passing Babe Ruth to become number two for most career home runs. This should be a wonderful time for the baseball superstar. But, because of speculation that he used steroids and lied about it, it isn't.
ROWLANDS: And, when Barry Bonds takes the field in any other stadium, other than San Francisco, is he booed. That is expected to be his reception here in Los Angeles tonight.
The big question is, this grand jury has been convened. They're hearing testimony, but how long will it take? Most legal analysts say that, when a grand jury is convened on perjury, they usually come back with an indictment. How long will that process take? And, if, indeed, they do come back with an indictment, what will Barry Bonds be charged with? -- Paula.
ZAHN: Ted Rowlands, thanks so much for that update.
Now I'm going to turn to a former Major Leaguer who claims Barry Bonds has used steroids. And he makes those allegations in his book "Juiced."
Jose Canseco joins me now.
Good to see you, Jose.
So, you also admit...
JOSE CANSECO, FORMER MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL PLAYER: Thank you, Paula.
ZAHN: ... in your book, you never personally saw him use steroids. Why are you so convinced Barry Bonds has used them?
CANSECO: Well, there, you're correct. I never spoke to him about steroids, or never seen him use steroids, or ever dealt with anyone that has even seen him use steroids.
It's just the fact that the physical prowess and the numerical increases, I mean, the monster home runs that he actually hit, and his physicality, kind of, to a trained eye, like mine, says he did use steroids.
But, you know, it's a very delicate situation, because he kind of admits that they're in his system, but, then, he says that he doesn't know how they actually got there. I really don't believe that, you know, the federal government is going to come back with any indictment whatsoever.
ZAHN: So -- so, you -- your -- you think Barry Bonds told the truth, or it's a shaded truth, that -- that he might have used steroids...
CANSECO: Well, it...
ZAHN: ... and he simply wasn't aware that is what was being pumped into his body?
CANSECO: It's kind of very vague. It's very vague. I don't think that -- you know, it's like, when Mark McGwire testified before Congress, we would not give an answer. The only thing he would actually say is, let's move on; let's look to the future.
That's a vague answer within itself. It's kind of similar to Barry Bonds' answer.
ZAHN: You have heard what Barry Bonds' attorney said, that he is clean, he has always been clean, and this is nothing more than the government out to get a big superstar in baseball.
Is that conceivable? Do you...
ZAHN: ... buy that at all?
CANSECO: It's definitely conceivable that, obviously, the government is trying to make Barry Bonds the example in this point.
But I -- I think the government has to be very careful. I think Bud -- Bud Selig opened up a big can of worms, when he hired his own investigator to find out what really happened in -- in -- in the sport of baseball, and who was or is using steroids now.
I think, I mean, you have got to be careful if you attack a presence like Barry Bonds. I'm sure, if you do, maybe the NAACP will get involved in this. It's almost like the O.J. Simpson trial, in -- in a sense, whether O.J. Simpson was innocent or guilty, it's -- it's the aftermath that you really have to be very careful about.
ZAHN: Well, we're going to be following this very closely from here.
Jose Canseco, thank you for joining us tonight. Appreciate your viewpoint.
CANSECO: Thank you.
ZAHN: Now we're going to move on to a developing story happening as we speak in Oklahoma tonight, where an urgent search has been going on for a missing 10-year-old girl.
Now, authorities had issued an Amber Alert for little Jamie Rose Bolin. She vanished two days ago, last seen Wednesday afternoon at the library in the small town of Purcell, about 35 miles south of Oklahoma City.
Our Ed Lavandera is following the story tonight. He joins me now -- a bunch of developments.
We're getting bulletins crossing our desk, even as I'm talking to you. The FBI has called off this Amber Alert. And is it true there's a suspect in custody right now? ED LAVANDERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: We have just been told here by the police a short while ago that they do have a suspect here at the police department that they are questioning right now.
The Amber Alert has been called off -- and all of this not good news, because, just a short while ago, we talked to the police chief, who said they are -- quote -- "working good information." When I asked him if Jamie Rose Bolin was still alive, he said he could not answer that, but -- quote -- "The situation does not look good" -- all of this painting a distressful picture.
Just a short while ago -- there has been a flurry of activity over the last couple of hours. In fact, as we were over at the apartment complex where Jamie Rose Bolin lives with her family, we were sitting there shooting some video of the apartment complex, trying to show where it was in relation to the library where she was last seen two days ago.
As we were there, police officers rushed on to -- on to the scene. They have cordoned off that area and put up crime scene tape around that apartment complex and where she lives. Their family was taken inside one of the apartments. And -- and the officers met with them for a few moments. When they emerged from there, many of them came out visibly crying. And they were told to come here to the police department, where they remain right now, at this hour.
But exact details as to what has been going on right now, we -- we do not know. But the -- the painful headline at this point is that the situation around Jamie Rose Bolin -- quote -- "does not look good." The family is here. And many of them are visibly upset -- Paula.
ZAHN: And we have been told to expect a news conference from some of those authorities about two hours from now. Are you expecting any confirmation of anything else at that news conference?
LAVANDERA: Exactly right.
I think, in two hours, we have been told, at 9:00 Central time, where they have been -- where they will meet with us again to brief us on what has been going on. There has been a shift here. The FBI has been -- had been working and had taken kind of a -- a visible lead in this case.
They are no longer speaking publicly about this case. They say it is a Purcell Police Department Case. They have told us that state investigators are on their way down to help out in this investigation as well -- the FBI taking more -- a little bit more of a back seat now in this case, which, clearly, indicates there has been some shift, and perhaps not the kind of news, in the -- in the shift in news that many people here in this small town were hoping for.
ZAHN: We're sorry to hear that. And we know you are going to stay on this story throughout the night. If anything new develops while we are on the air, we will come back to you.
Once again, the headline out of this story, that authorities are confirming a suspect is in custody tonight -- the FBI also confirming that the Amber Alert that has been in effect for the last two days or so has now been officially canceled.
What all this means, we are hoping to find out a little bit later on tonight.
Meanwhile, police in Milwaukee are frustrated by their lack of progress in an urgent investigation: How could two boys simply vanish? Where have they been for nearly a month? Tonight, we will take you "Beyond the Headlines."
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DAVID MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Police make a surprise return to the Duke campus, asking more questions in the investigation into the school's lacrosse team and an alleged rape.
I'm David Mattingly -- that story coming up.
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ZAHN: Also ahead, what Christians have been wondering for many, many centuries: What did Jesus actually look like? Some possibilities that might really surprise you. You be the judge, when we show you images a little bit later on tonight.
But, first, let's move along to our countdown of the 10 most popular stories on CNN.com. Fifteen million of you went to our Web site today, give or take 10 or 20 of you.
Coming in at number 10, Tom Cruise says he and his family are holding seminars to get ready for the birth of his first child with fiancee, Katie Holmes. And, in a TV interview, Cruise says the baby will not be baptized, even though Holmes was raised a Catholic. The couple now practices Scientology.
Number nine -- in Gaza today, Palestine's prime minister accused the U.S. of trying to undermine his government and the political party Hamas by cutting off direct financial aid. Hamas, as you know, refuses to recognize Israel -- numbers eight and seven minutes away.
ZAHN: Some new developments today in the investigation into whether three Duke University lacrosse players raped an exotic dancer at a wild party. Well, today, we learned that police tried to interview some of the players in their dorm rooms last night.
David Mattingly is working the story. He has the very latest for us from Durham tonight.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) DAVID MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Emerging from early-morning meetings aimed at repairing community ties, after a scandalous rape allegation, Duke president Richard Brodhead seemed surprised that Durham police investigators had returned to his campus.
RICHARD BRODHEAD, PRESIDENT, DUKE UNIVERSITY: I am aware that police attempted to enter those rooms. And I am now about to leave this news conference to learn the whole story.
MATTINGLY: Hours later, a Duke statement revealed, two Durham police detectives entered the university dormitories without search warrants for the purpose of conducting interviews.
Duke states, the detectives notified campus police of their visit in advance, and remained on campus for an hour and 15 minutes.
(on camera): The university will only say, the visit was part of the ongoing investigation into an alleged rape that began with a rowdy party by the lacrosse team in March and resulted in disturbing allegations and an abruptly canceled season.
(voice-over): The detective visit happened in the same complex of dorms where police once searched the room of former lacrosse player Ryan McFadyen. Listed in the Duke program as honored for his academics, the 19-year-old was suspended, after sending an e-mail describing a fantasy about graphic violence toward strippers. The e- mail was reportedly sent a half-an-hour after a stripper claims she was raped by three men at a lacrosse team party.
The Associated Press quotes one defense attorney who says, the detectives, Thursday night, approached some of the lacrosse players. She says, the players contacted their attorneys, who advised them not to speak.
Outside his Durham offices, Bill Thomas, another defense attorney in the case, says he plans to complain to a judge.
BILL THOMAS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: It bothers us a great deal. And we will be before the court on Monday. We are going to be addressing that issue.
MATTINGLY: When asked for comment, the Durham Police Department declined, citing an ongoing policy of not commenting about this investigation.
Duke University says it continues to cooperate fully with off- campus authorities. So far, no criminal charges have been filed against anyone in the case.
David Mattingly, CNN, Durham.
ZAHN: And a reminder that a grand jury meets in Durham on Monday. It may get the case then.
Nearly a month ago, two boys said they were going to a Milwaukee park. Did they ever get there? Why have they simply vanished?
And the strongest tornado ever hit Oklahoma in 1999. You probably remember these pictures. Why are some people still waiting for their insurance company to pay up?
First, though number eight on our CNN.com countdown -- a chaotic scene in Alexandria, Egypt, after attacks on worshipers at Coptic Christian churches there. Authorities say, a man with a knife killed one person, wounded four others.
Number seven -- the 2005 tax returns for the president and the vice president are in. The Bushes made more than $735,000. They paid nearly $188,000 in taxes. Well, the Cheneys made a whole lot more than that, nearly $9 million. They donated about $7 million to charity and paid more than $529,000 in taxes -- numbers six and five right after this.
ZAHN: So, tonight, police in Milwaukee are no closer to solving the mystery of the two boys who have been missing for nearly a month now.
The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children and "America's Most Wanted" have posted pictures of the boys on their Web sites. You're looking at the young men now. But, as the search continues, and the reward money increases, families, friends and neighbors are asking, how can two kids just vanish into thin air?
Jonathan Freed has been talking with the police and the missing boys' families. He brings us the very latest in tonight's "Beyond the Headlines."
JONATHAN FREED, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): White ribbons stretching into infinity, a sign of the infinite support the families of two missing boys say they're getting from the Milwaukee community.
Twelve-year-old Quadrevion "Dre" Henning and 11-year-old Purvis Virginia Parker disappeared nearly a month ago. They're described as well-mannered kids, good in school, who rarely get into trouble.
(on camera): So, these white ribbons that we see, I mean, everywhere, up and down every street, on every tree, they represent the purity of the two kids?
QUENTIN HENNING, FATHER OF QUADREVION HENNING: The purity innocence of -- of -- of innocence, of youthfulness, of life.
FREED (voice-over): Dre and Purvis were last seen on a Sunday afternoon, as they headed off to play at a neighborhood park, just down the street from Dre's house.
Q. HENNING: The sadness is -- is -- it's overwhelming, because they are gone. They're not home yet. It's frustrating, because we don't have any answers.
FREED: No answers, despite a massive search that lasted for days, and an ongoing investigation involving local police and the FBI.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you.
FREED: The boys just disappeared, and that sparked this community into action.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You are in the miracle business. Perform a miracle tonight.
FREED: A fund-raising event last weekend, filling a concert hall, helping to boost the reward money to more than $75,000.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (singing): Any tips that you have, we ask that you share. They may lead to the return of this precious pair.
FREED: Perhaps are convinced, someone knows something, and perhaps hasn't come forward because of a culture in Milwaukee, and in other cities around the country, called "no snitching," where the idea of helping authorities is taboo.
More than 4,500 children were reported missing by anxious parents in Milwaukee last year and 1,000 so far this year. Police say, the cases are usually not serious and are solved within hours, but this one:
NANNETTE HEGERTY, MILWAUKEE POLICE CHIEF: I would say, it's -- it's one in -- for this city, one in probably 10,000.
FREED: The city's police chief says, the length of this investigation is frustrating her department.
HEGERTY: We all have families. We have children. We have children that we love, you know, and this becomes very personal to a police department trying to find these boys.
FREED: So, the boys' families are forced to wait. But they're comforted by constant reminders the community is behind them, like when our interview with Purvis' mother was interrupted by a knock on the door.
ANGELA VIRGINIA, MOTHER OF PURVIS VIRGINIA PARKER: Thank you so much.
VIRGINIA: OK, thank you.
Yes, the parents that kind of pitch in at the school. They say they will be bringing dinner until Purvis comes home.
GARRY HENNING, GRANDFATHER OF QUADREVION HENNING: And we hope that somebody's heart will -- will become soft, somebody's conscience will become motivated to come forward. That's all we want.
FREED: The ribbons, they say, are not coming down until the boys come home.
Jonathan Freed, CNN, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
ZAHN: And, meanwhile, an anonymous donor has pledged $30,000 to the reward fund, seeking any information on the boys' disappearance. That brings the fund total to $62,000 so far.
It has been more than seven months since Hurricane Katrina devastated the Gulf Coast. Should any of those homeowners be concerned about the way an insurance company handled a disaster seven years ago? Still waiting for their money. We are going to have an eye-opening report coming up.
As we head into this Easter weekend, we ask, can high-tech methods, like the ones we see on "CSI," show us what Jesus might have looked like? You get to be the judge of that a little bit later on tonight.
Meanwhile, number six on our CNN.com countdown -- recent immigration reform protests across the U.S. are inspiring some activists in Mexico to join the debate. Some Mexican unions and political groups are calling for a boycott of all American products on May 1.
And, at number five -- Bausch and Lomb is now facing a lawsuit over its Renu MoistureLoc contact lens solution. The suit alleges, the company didn't disclose problems with Renu, even after it learned that users in Asia had contracted eye infections.
U.S. health officials are investigating reports of similar infections -- number four right out of the break.
ZAHN: We are continuing to hear a lot of stories that, seven months after Hurricane Katrina, people on the Gulf Coast are still fighting with insurance companies.
In Mississippi, a grand jury is even looking into whether companies hired to assess damage were asked to change the reports in favor of insurers.
Well, now, here's something to think about: Seven years after the strongest tornado ever hit, some Oklahoma homeowners are still battling with their insurance companies.
Gerri Willis has tonight's "Eye Opener."
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm getting nervous. This is bad. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Look at that. Look at that.
GERRI WILLIS, CNN PERSONAL FINANCE EDITOR (voice-over): May 3, 1999, the strongest tornado ever recorded ripped through the southern suburbs of Oklahoma City. Up to a mile wide, with winds up to 318 miles per hour, it was part of a storm that killed 48 people and left widespread devastation. The tornado roared right by Donna and David Cosper's house.
DONNA COSPER, HOMEOWNER: The f5 tornado came right across the hillside there, where you see the treetops -- came right across there, and then there were two small tornadoes that came off of it, that came, went down through the trees and then hit the back of our home.
WILLIS: Cosper ran for a neighbor's storm cellar. About a mile away, off duty police officer Larry Love was working on his yard.
LARRY LOVE, HOMEOWNER: And a car came around this corner and he stopped and he said, hey, there's a big tornado coming, heading this direction.
WILLIS: Love rushed to take shelter at his mother-in-laws and with his family listened to the police radio.
LOVE: There is an Oklahoma City police officer that said that she was at Southwest 133rd Place and Briar Hollow Drive and that there are homes down, devastated and people trapped. She was just basically right around the corner.
WILLIS: Officer Love spent the next few days searching through rubble and rescuing people. When he finally went into his own home, he saw it was badly damaged.
LOVE: The roof shingles.
WILLIS: Donna Cosper was shocked when she came out of the storm cellar. Houses were reduced to rubble. Somehow her own house was still standing, but was also damaged, cracks in the walls, the house frame twisted so doors wouldn't close and the air conditioning malfunctioned, soon causing condensation and mold inside. Grass even grew out of one wall.
Cosper and Love got in touch with their insurance company, State Farm, to start the repair process.
(on-camera): The Cospers, the Loves and others in this community had been faithfully paying their premiums to State Farm for years. They figured that if the worst happened they'd be protected.
(voice over): But when the worst did happen, they say State Farm became part of the problem, not paying for all the damage.
JEFF MARR, ATTORNEY: We're suing State Farm for the way that they handled the catastrophe claims here in Oklahoma in 1999.
WILLIS: Jeff Marr represents Cosper, Love and more than 70 others in a class action suit against State Farm. He says State Farm hired a firm called Haag Engineering to inspect the homes, but he claims the engineering firm deliberately underreported the damage, allegations State Farm and Haag Engineering deny.
LOVE: They're saying that it was just poor construction.
WILLIS: Larry Love says State Farm first used a different engineering company to inspect his home. That company reported this about the roof, "The ridge beam appeared to be rotated, suggesting that the roof has undergone rotation or racking from the high winds. It appears this rotation caused the rafters to pull out of the beam."
Worried the inspection hadn't found all of the damage, Love asked for a second opinion. State Farm sent out Haag Engineering. Attorney Marr says the Haag report played down the tornado's effect on the house. "It appeared that the primary damage this dwelling received from the storm was from debris impact and interior exposure to weather and rain."
And there was this about the damage to the roof, "The separations were as-built conditions." Haag claimed the problem was there before the storm.
LOVE: I have two engineering reports. They basically took the first one that said that my house was damaged and stuff. They just disposed of that, and they basically told me no, the Haag report is gospel. This is exactly what it is. This is all we're paying, and you're not getting anything else.
WILLIS: State Farm paid Donna Cosper almost $62,000, but that was $30,000 short of what she ended up paying to fix structural damage, damage Haag Engineering said didn't happen in the tornado. Her safety engineer had a different story.
COSPER: He described it to me like the house just took a big breath because the pressure on the front of the house and the pressure on the back of the house, it just made the house suck apart.
MARR: State Farm used Haag to pay less on claims than what it should have, knowing that Haag had a biased in State Farm's favor and against the policyholder.
WILLIS: Marr points to a 1994 Texas State Supreme Court case that found State Farm hired Haag Engineering, knowing the firm would have a bias in the insurer's favor. In depositions for the Oklahoma case, Haag Engineering denied being biased against home owners.
And in a statement to CNN said the firm does not allow clients to influence the results of its reports. State Farm declined an interview, but in statements to CNN State Farm said it expects objective opinions from outside experts like Haag Engineering. And State Farm said it paid out $4.5 million on 77 claims after the tornado based on Haag Engineering reports.
State Farm did not say how many Haag Engineering evaluated claims were denied or reduced. In this deposition, State Farm's former Vice President proclaims Frank Haines said the company paid what is fair.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What should your policyholders have expected from State Farm following this catastrophe in regard to their claim handling?
FRANK HAINES, FMR. STATE FARM CLAIMS V.P.: They had a policy with State Farm, whether it be State Farm casualty or State Farm mutual housing, that their claim would have been handled as quickly as possible, as fairly as possible.
WILLIS: An Oklahoma court is getting ready to determine whether that really happened after the strongest tornado in recorded history.
COSPER: When I hear that like a good neighbor State Farm is there, it makes me nauseous. To this day it, makes me nauseous.
LOVE: Let me show you back here.
WILLIS: Larry Love still hasn't had his roof fully repaired. Donna Cosper spent $30,000 out of her own pocket to make her house livable. They hope that a judgment in their lawsuit will soon bring their seven-year nightmare to an end.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's moving right at us. We got to get out of here.
WILLIS: Gerri Willis, CNN, Oklahoma City.
ZAHN: And just last week after being contacted by CNN, State Farm's lawyers asked an Oklahoma district court judge to try to force the homeowners' attorney to make CNN return documents and deposition videotapes used to prepare our story. The judge turned down State Farm's request.
We are going to have an update for you on a developing story in Oklahoma at this hour. A lot of people want to know what happened to little Jamie Rose Bolin. She has been missing for two days now.
Ed Lavandera is piecing together many details and he will have them for us coming up.
Also, a newly revealed manuscript is upsetting a lot of people. Even the Vatican is talking about Judas. What's in the newly revealed gospel about the most despised apostle?
On to number four now on our CNN.Com countdown, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld today rejected demands by six retired generals for his resignation. His comments came from an interview with the al Arabiya network. Also, today President Bush issued a statement saying he still stands behind Rumsfeld.
Stay with us. Number three is coming up.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK) ZAHN: I want to bring you up to date on this hour's breaking news. We are getting reports that the body of a missing 10-year-old girl has been found in Oklahoma. There had been an Amber Alert in place for some 48 hours. The FBI now telling us that has been canceled.
Ed Lavandera on the scene in Purcell, Oklahoma. That is just about 45 miles south of Oklahoma City.
What can you confirm for us tonight, Ed?
LAVANDERA: Paula, unfortunately, the worst news, officials here -- and we've gotten this information from two law enforcement sources here in Oklahoma, who say that the body of 10-year-old Jamie Rose Bolin has been discovered.
The worst part of all of this, however, is -- and if we can show you the video of where law enforcement officials rolled up onto the scene of the apartment complex, where Jamie Rose Bolin lived. We understand from the sources that the body was discovered in a nearby apartment, where she lived.
Authorities are under the impression at this point that she might have been there all along, while all this search is going on, literally feet away from where the family has been standing vigil over the last couple of days waiting to get information. We're told by one of these sources that the suspect in this case, who is now here at the police station in Purcell, Oklahoma, and is under questioning, was stopped at a road check, not exactly sure where in relation to the town here but was stopped at the road check and was brought back here to the town of Purcell.
And I'm under the impression at this point at the 9:00 central time briefing perhaps they'll clear up a little bit of this -- where the information is a little bit sketchy -- what might have brought authorities back here to the location, this apartment complex where they did discover the body of 10-year-old Jamie Rose Bolin just a short while ago.
A flurry of activity here over the last couple of hours and everything commencing here. In fact, we've also been told that her father collapsed here at the police department with all of this news. He's been taken to a nearby hospital, so the family in an intense grieving situation here this evening as two days of searching has ended in the worst kind of news -- Paula.
ZAHN: Such terrible news. Are the authorities telling you anything else about this suspect and confirming what kind of contact he may have had with this young girl in the past?
LAVANDERA: No. What we were able to gather so far is that it's not exactly clear. It appears that he might have been living -- I believe, it is fair to say that he had been living in this apartment complex where Jamie Rose Bolin also lived with her family. But what is not clear -- and there doesn't appear to be any indication so far -- and of course this is all just coming into us. It could change here drastically in the next hour or so.
But I am not under the impression right now that Jamie Rose Bolin's family knew who this person was, even though he did live in the same apartment complex.
ZAHN: I guess, Ed, what's so confusing about this story tonight, we were originally led to believe, even by some law enforcement authorities, that this girl was last seen leaving the library, getting into a van with very specific license numbers. Now, they're saying it's conceivable that she never even left this apartment complex?
LAVANDERA: That's what we need to wait and try to weed through, if you will. She was last seen at this library, which is essentially about 200 yards away from her home here in Purcell, just around the corner from where she lives. We talked to the manager of that library earlier today who says she did see Jamie Rose Bolin in the library there Wednesday afternoon.
And police also said they had several witnesses who said they did see Jamie Rose Bolin leave the library in this dark Chevy Tahoe with the Fox lettering across the back windshield, but there did not appear to be any signs of struggle. We are told that she had gone there on her bicycle, but that the bicycle wasn't anywhere to be seen, leading authorities to believe that perhaps it was in the truck.
So they're still trying to figure out exactly at what point she left, if she did leave this area entirely, or has been taken somewhere else and then brought back.
ZAHN: Ed Lavandera, thank you for trying to make sense of these often conflicting details. Once again, the headline is authorities confirming a body has been found, also confirming a man is in suspect tonight -- a suspect is in custody tonight. The news I think everybody was dreading, as we followed this story. We'll be right back.
ZAHN: And tonight Pope Benedict is presiding over his first Good Friday observances. The pontiff led the way of the cross procession around the ruins of Rome's Coliseum commemorating Christ's passion and death.
But during this holy week, the story of betrayal that led to Christ's crucifixion is now being challenged. An ancient document, the so-called Gospel of Judas has just been translated, and it claims that Christ himself asked Judas to betray him. Well, a Vatican official today denounced that gospel as an alternative view to traditional Christian teaching. So will Judas remain infamous forever?
Here's our faith and values correspondent Delia Gallagher.
DELIA GALLAGHER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): He's one of the most reviled men in history. His name synonymous with betrayal, condemned by Dante to the inferno, but has Judas gotten a bad rap?
MARVIN MEYER, PROF. OF BIBLE AND CHRISTIAN STUDIES: Generally speaking he is portrayed as a negative kind of figure in the New Testament to be sure because it is said that he is the one who turned Jesus over, betrayed Jesus to the authorities and is thus responsible in a way for the arrest and the crucifixion of Jesus.
GALLAGHER: But now a 1700-year-old document offers another view on this event. The Gospel of Judas discovered in Egypt in the 1970s has been translated and made public. Marvin Meyer, an expert in ancient text, was part of the translation team.
MEYER: He was the one disciple who, according to this gospel, knew Jesus best and understood Jesus best of all the disciples.
GALLAGHER: The Gospel of Judas was not written by Judas. The Gnostics, a group whose members believed the physical world was evil, wrote this gospel in the third or fourth century. The translation for the first time depicts Judas' side of the story. It says Jesus told Judas to betray him that this would fulfill a divine plan and put Judas above the other apostles, saying, "You will exceed all of them, for you will sacrifice the man who clothes me."
MEYER: Jesus says you will exceed all of the others, that is all of the other disciples. You will sacrifice the person who clothes me, that is to say you will turn over the body so that the true spirit of Jesus can come to complete expression.
GALLAGHER: James Robinson is the author of a book called "The Secrets of Judas." He believes the Gospel of Judas has little historical credibility because it was written a century after Jesus died.
JAMES ROBINSON, AUTHOR, "THE SECRETS OF JUDAS": It doesn't have any valid records of what went on in 30 A.D. and therefore doesn't change our reconstruction of what we think did happen in 30 A.D.
GALLAGHER (on-camera): You think it's just a story?
ROBINSON: It's just mythology, yes.
GALLAGHER (voice over): So does it change anything? Will Christian churches change their teachings? Some say a second century bishop has already revealed the Judas Gospel as false.
FR. DONALD SENIOR, CATHOLIC THEOLOGICAL UNION: The wager of most of Christian tradition is that the gospels, the New Testament gospels, present a generally reliable account, so that's why I think early on, someone like Irenaeus, the bishop of Lyon, and around 180 says that this gospel is erroneous. These claims are erroneous and really should be of no interest to Christians. I think that still basically stands today.
GALLAGHER: Will these findings bring Judas a new image? Could they cleanse him of his bad rap? MEYER: The jury is out when it comes to Judas, and this provides us with the occasion then to reopen discussion and to find out what we really want to conclude.
GALLAGHER: Nearly 2,000 years after Judas and Jesus walked the earth, discoveries are still being made. Tales about one of the most intriguing relationships in Christianity are still being told.
Delia Gallagher, CNN, New York.
ZAHN: And the Vatican didn't just denounce the Gospel of Judas today. The Vatican official also spoke out against the book "The Da Vinci Code," calling it pseudo-historic art.
Well, images of Jesus are all around us. How close do any of them come to what he really looked like?
And at the top of the hour, two faces you are sure to recognize, Barry Manilow's and Larry King's.
Before that, though, numbers two and one on our CNN.com countdown.
ZAHN: There are a lot of things in life we can't be absolutely certain of. But it is a pretty good bet that a movie coming out this fall will be controversial. You can already find previews of it on the web. "Color of the Cross" intentionally portrays Jesus as a black man, which is very different from the images you'll find in most churches, particularly over this holiday weekend.
And this weekend CNN presents "The Mystery of Jesus." It explores what he could have actually looked like and it may end up surprising you. This report is narrated by Liam Neeson.
LIAM NEESON, ACTOR (voice over): Trying to figure out what Jesus really looked like has preoccupied Christians for centuries, and legions of artists have stayed busy trying to supply the answer.
But the difficulty in trying to flush out the image of Jesus is that his contemporaries considered his message, not his looks, all important. Also Judaism forbids the worship of images and idols, especially of someone claiming to be God. Of course, that did not stop Christians from imagining how Jesus looked.
He was first depicted as a triumphant sun god, like Apollo. Since then Jesus has been reimagined by every generation, and movies have never tired of portraying him, from "Jesus Christ Superstar" to the brooding artist in "Jesus of Montreal" to the smiling buddy Christ of the film "Dogma." PROF. AMY-JILL LEVINE, VANDERBILT UNIVERSITY: Jesus is not, as far as I can tell, historically the blonde blue eyed version or Jeffrey Hunter, who we get from the movies.
REV. THOMAS FITZPATRICK, PONTIFICAL BIBLICAL INSTITUTE: I think he would have looked very much like what we know by the term hippies.
NEESON: Now we may be able to literally put some flesh on the bones of centuries of guessing. That's what the noted medical and forensic artist Richard Neave did when biblical scholars gave him a copy a the skull from the first century, found in present day Israel. They wanted to get an idea of what a man of Jesus's time and place might have looked like.
RICHARD NEAVE, MEDICAL & FORENSIC ARTIST: It's a strong skull, and to live satisfactorily, especially the kind of life that Jesus led, you are going to have to be a fairly tough, rugged kind of fellow. You know, he walked miles. He carried his staff. He could be flogged. He could carry his cross. I mean, you know, that takes a lot of physical strength and determination. And so he is not a wimp.
NEESON: Neave spent nearly 30 years reconstructing the heads of mystery people, anonymous murder victims, ancient archaeological finds and suicides. But how would he approach a recreation of a face from 2,000 years ago?
NEAVE: It's done in exactly the same way as you would handle a forensic case. There's absolutely no difference except that in this case a nice clean, prepared cast rather than the original skull. And you make a copy of that, and that's mounted onto a metal stand. Pegs are inserted into the skull at specific anatomical points. And these indicate the average thickness of tissue that you're going to get say there or there or there.
NEESON: Neave's skull was rendered into an image by the BBC, but further developed by the artist Denotto Gin Cola (ph) with the help of Neave and biblical scholars. The result is a startling image, nothing like the Jesus that history has imagined.
NEAVE: The nose is quite prominent, the full mouth, a youngish face, between 30 and 40, I suppose.
NEESON: Neave stresses that his Jesus head is not the Jesus head. At best it represents a face that Jesus himself might have seen or had and still it attracts debate.
NEAVE: I've had one or two comments from people suggesting that it doesn't look anything like Jesus, which of course doesn't surprise me. And they actually some of them do go on to say they know exactly what Jesus does look like because they took a photograph of him only three weeks ago.
NEESON: Even though science has given us a better idea of what Jesus might have really looked like. Jesus's face wouldn't matter were it not for what he said not what he did, and the gospels tell us in a surprisingly short time, just three years. What was the message of this carpenter son from Galilee and why did it get him killed?
ZAHN: All fascinating questions we will be pondering for a very long time. They are a pair of "CNN Presents" this Easter weekend at 7:00 p.m. on Saturday and Sunday you can see "The Last Days of Pope John Paul II" from the people who were around him as he was passing away. "The Mystery of Jesus" is the source of the report you just saw tonight. It is on at 11:00 p.m. both Saturday and Sunday.
That wraps it up for all of us here. We hope you have a very happy Easter, and we will be back again with you Monday night. Have a great night.
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