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Showbiz Tonight for July 8, 2005, CNNHN
Aired July 8, 2005 - 19:00:00 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
JASON CARROLL, CO-HOST: I`m Jason Carroll.
KARYN BRYANT, CO-HOST: I`m Karyn Bryant. TV`s only live entertainment news show starts right now.
BRYANT (voice-over): Tonight on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, the attack on London, the day after. Why Donald Trump is angry. Does Bono think it will impact Live 8? He goes one on one with SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Plus, cell phones. Their remarkable power to change the way we get the news.
CARROLL (voice-over): Altered reality. Tonight, why some reality shows may not be as real as you may think they are. And why the whole issue may be settled in court.
BRYANT: Summer movies and the video games that inspire them.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know what I want.
BRYANT: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT reveals how game makers are taking control and putting you right there in the middle of the action. So buckle your seat belts.
MICHAEL CHIKLIS, ACTOR: Hey, I`m Michael Chiklis. And if it happened today, it`s on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
CARROLL: Hello, I`m Jason Carroll. A.J. Hammer has the night off.
BRYANT: I`m Karyn Bryant.
CARROLL: From Donald Trump to Jay Leno to Bono, tonight, some of the biggest names in show business are talking about, and shaking their heads at, the deadly terror attacks in London.
BRYANT: Not even Bobby Brown`s new reality show could escape the reality of what happened there. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s David Haffenreffer has been tracking all the latest developments today and is here to bring you up to date.
DAVID HAFFENREFFER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Jason and Karyn, in London, authorities are still trying to sort out the extent of the damage and loss of life from the bombing attacks on the city`s transit system. While that happens, widespread coverage of the tragedy continues to unite the world in both outrage and grief.
ELIZABETH II, QUEEN OF ENGLAND: A tragedy such as these simply reinforce our sense of community, our humanity and our trust in the rule of law. That is the clear message from us all.
HAFFENREFFER (voice-over): Britain`s Queen Elizabeth II spoke for a devastated nation, a day after the rush-hour bombings in London. The morning papers in both London and the U.S. reflected the shock and outrage of a world still reeling from the terrorist attacks which killed more than 50 people.
The bombings cast a shadow over the G-8 summit in Scotland, but rocker/activists Bono and Bob Geldof were still able to declare an important victory.
BONO, MUSICIAN/ACTIVIST: If an Irish rock star if allowed to quote Winston Churchill, I wouldn`t say this is the end of extreme poverty, but it is the beginning of the end.
HAFFENREFFER: Bono and Geldof, the key forces behind last week`s Live 8 concerts, won a pledge from world leaders to double aid to Africa. When SHOWBIZ TONIGHT caught up with Bono in Scotland, he praised British Prime Minister Tony Blair for finding a way to bring hope from tragedy.
BONO: It`s been a very difficult -- it`s an extraordinary week for Prime Minister Blair. And, you know, the excitement of London winning the Olympic bid, the devastation of a terrorist attack in London, and yet, the sense now, the day after, that coming from him, a sense of, we don`t kill people. We don`t kill poor people. We save lives. We don`t waste them the way they were wasted yesterday.
HAFFENREFFER: They were praying for peace back in London, but the wounds from the attacks remain fresh. Rock bands Queen and REM postponed their weekend concerts because of security concerns, and Billboard reports that Snoop Dogg`s upcoming show in Manchester may be scrapped.
SOLEDAD O`BRIEN, CO-HOST, "AMERICAN MORNING": Obviously, the terrorist attacks in London our top story.
HAFFENREFFER: Back in the U.S., Americans remained riveted to coverage of the attacks. So is Donald Trump, who talked to me about it when I caught up with him earlier today.
DONALD TRUMP, REAL ESTATE MOGUL: Well, it`s terrible. It`s just getting worse, and something will be done about it eventually, and hopefully we can extricate ourself from Iraq so we can really go in and stop this terrorism. The terrorism situation is absolutely deplorable.
HAFFENREFFER: Even TV viewers who weren`t watching the news couldn`t escape the impact of yesterday`s attacks.
Last night`s episode of the reality show "Being Bobby Brown" was shot in London. Before the show, Bravo ran a message reading, quote, "Tonight`s episode of `Being Bobby Brown` was filmed several months ago in London. Our thoughts and deepest sympathies are with all those affected by today`s tragic events."
Appearing on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT Bobby Brown shared with us his own personal message.
BOBBY BROWN, SINGER: My heart is out with all the people out there, all the families. And I wish you all the love in the world, and, you know, things happen, and unfortunately, it has to happen this way.
HAFFENREFFER: And between the laughs on "The Tonight Show," Jay Leno injected a serious message.
JAY LENO, HOST, "THE TONIGHT SHOW": You know, we really have no greater friend or ally through war and peace, good times and bad, and especially after September 11. They`ve always been there for us. So I want everyone here in our audience and the stage and all the folks behind the scenes, we just want our British folks to know our thoughts and prayers are with them.
HAFFENREFFER: Other musical acts have been canceling or postponing their shows. They include Sum 41, Prodigy and Queens of the Stone Age.
Jason, back to you.
CARROLL: Thanks, David.
In just a few minutes, we`ll have more of Karyn Bryant`s interview with Bono. The rock superstar/activist talks about what was accomplished at the G-8 summit and what should be done next. You don`t want to miss it.
BRYANT: The attacks in London brought back terrible memories of September 11 for so many people. And tonight a major new movie is planned about the attack on the World Trade Center. But that may do the same and bring back more memories.
Two Hollywood powerhouses are teaming us to make the movie. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT learned today that Oliver Stone will direct the movie, and it will star Nicolas Cage.
The film will be based on the true story of the rescue of two Port Authority police officers at Ground Zero. One of those officers says, as a 9/11 survivor, he never wants people to forget those who died, and the movie will serve that purpose.
Joining us live to talk about it, John Schiumo of the New York cable news channel New York 1. John, in fact, covered the story of the two officers who survived and he hosted a program that focused exclusively on September 11.
John, thank you for joining us.
JOHN SCHIUMO, NEW YORK 1: My pleasure.
BRYANT: So for those who don`t know, give us the storyline of this Oliver Stone movie.
SCHIUMO: Well, first off, it`s just one of the many dramatic stories that took place in the hours after September 11, really in the months after September 11.
These two officers were the last two pulled out -- the last two men pulled out alive from the rubble. They were rescuing a woman named Jamel (ph), and the story rippled through the press lines outside of the West Side Highway afterwards, and it`s really well documented at this point. There`s been -- the story has been told several times on their struggle to talk to each other and to maintain some peace of mind and to go through those final moments where they thought they were actually going to die.
It`s quite a dramatic story. It will be very interesting to see how it`s played out on the big screen. These stories tend to be so dramatic that the film versions and the play versions and the TV versions tend to rub some of the 9/11 victims` family members the wrong way. Why dramatize an already traumatic event? So it will be interesting to see how it takes place.
BRYANT: Right. And Nicolas Cage will be playing John McLaughlin. He is one of the men. And William Jimeno the other officer. You actually know the construction guy who was responsible for pulling him out of the rubble. Is that true?
SCHIUMO: One of many. We were standing on the West Side Highway, and the firefighters and the rescue workers and the construction workers who really don`t get enough credit for the work they did after 9/11, they filed past us on the West Side Highway.
One construction worker walked up to me and said -- said, "Her face was covered with dust and with rubble, and we finally saw her." And it was an incredible moment. And he was talking about her being the angel, and they dusted her off and they pulled her out and, to, obviously, a round of applause.
But it will also be very interesting to know how they -- how they report this. Because reporters were not standing on the pit. We were not -- we were not able to get access to this rescue moment. So it will be interesting to see if Oliver Stone dramatizes this event and has the reporter doing that mock stand-up so close, because we were not close. And any journalist who says that they were right there is simply lying.
BRYANT: Well, how do you feel about the movie being made?
SCHIUMO: I was very happy to find out the two Port Authority police officers endorsed the film. The 9/11 family members are a very powerful and very passionate group, rightfully so. It`s only been four years, but for the 9/11 family members, and I talk to them on a really weekly basis, they`ll tell you it feels like four days in some cases.
So they`re very, very possessive, rightfully so. The two Port Authority officers have endorsed this film, which relieved me, and I`m sure it will be a relief to some, but not all 9/11 family members.
BRYANT: All right. Well, thanks for joining us. You`re John Schiumo of New York 1 News.
SCHIUMO: Thank you.
CARROLL: Despite the pouring rain, hundreds of fans and stars came out to say good-bye this afternoon to Luther Vandross.
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CARROLL: Aretha Franklin, Stevie Wonder, Patti LaBelle and Dionne Warwick were among the stars who came out to pay their last respects at the funeral in New York City.
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DIONNE WARWICK, SINGER: It is with a very heavy heart that I stand before you in memory of a friend, one I considered to be a part of my family. I loved and adored, and still do Luther Runzoni Vandross.
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CARROLL: The multi-Grammy Award winning singer died last Friday after suffering a stroke two years ago. Luther Vandross was 54.
BRYANT: A lawsuit over some of your favorite reality shows and a reality check on how real they are. That`s coming up next.
CARROLL: Plus, see the movie, get the game. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT has the scoop on the summer blockbusters and how you can be the star.
BRYANT: And Bono says he`s going to be a pain in President Bush`s posterior, so to speak. Coming up, Bono goes one on one with SHOWBIZ TONIGHT about his crusade to change the world.
Now tonight`s "Entertainment Weekly Great American Pop Culture Quiz." Which star did not make a guest appearance in season two of "Chappelle`s Show"? Was it Jamie Foxx, Snoop Dogg, Wayne Brady or Stephen King? We`ll be right back with the answer.
BRYANT: Once again, tonight`s "Entertainment Weekly Great American Pop Culture Quiz." Which star did not make a guest appearance in season two of "Chappelle`s Show"? Was it Jamie Foxx, Snoop Dogg, Wayne Brady or Stephen King? Well, it`s kind of a trick question, because Stephen King did make a guest appearance, but it was in season one. So the answer is D.
CARROLL: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Jason Carroll.
Tonight, startling charges about how real those reality shows you watch really are. Reality show writers -- did we say writers? -- are taking the big networks to court. And it might prove what you see is not always what you think you got.
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s Sibila Vargas is live in Los Angeles with the very, very latest for us. Sibila, what can you tell us?
SIBILA VARGAS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Jason, reality TV writers like you said, writers, are taking on some industry heavy hitters for violation of California labor laws. And what`s revealed in the lawsuit may come as a shock, with accusations that reality TV is not as real as it seems.
JESSE PALMER, "THE BACHELOR": This is such a big decision. This is going to be such a big, critical moment in my life. I`m going to need all the help I can get.
VARGAS (voice-over): "The Bachelor`s" Jesse Palmer was talking about how his love life needed help. Now it`s writers from shows like "The Bachelor" who say they need help.
A group of reality TV scribes is now suing eight networks and production companies. They claim they were denied overtime and meal breaks and were ordered to falsify time cards. And they`re also revealing what could be called reality TV`s dirty little secret.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We love this.
VARGAS: Here`s a reality check. Television`s reality shows are often as scripted as television comedies and dramas.
The suit was filed with the aid of the Writers Guild of America West. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT went straight to the organization`s president, Daniel Petrie Jr.
DANIEL PETRIE JR., PRESIDENT, WGA WEST: There is a means of showing the industry they`ve got potential -- you know, enormous liability and, therefore, it would be in the industry`s interest, as well as ours, that we get these storytellers under a union contract.
VARGAS: The suit claims labor violations took place on eight reality shows, including "The Bachelor," "The Bachelorette" and "The Real Gilligan`s Island."
Often called story editors or field producers, the reality writers group alleges they worked in sweat shop conditions, often 80-hour weeks without compensation or breaks required by law.
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT asked J. Max Robins of "Broadcasting and Cable Magazine" for the scoop.
J. MAX ROBINS, "BROADCASTING AND CABLE" MAGAZINE: Situations are set up. They`re set up for dramatic effect. People are cast so there`s going to be conflict. This really isn`t reality.
VARGAS: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT today went straight to the king of reality shows, "Apprentice" star Donald Trump. He told us that on his show what you see is what you get.
TRUMP: We have no writers. This is all reality. This is it. What you see is what you get. There`s nothing written. And maybe that`s why "The Apprentice" has become such a big hit.
VARGAS: But even if actual dialogue is no t written, Daniel Petrie of the Writers Guild says these employees are still storytellers.
PETRIE: I know that dialogue is the least of it. It`s putting characters in situations that are going to be funny or dramatic and creating suspense, creating laughs, creating something that all comes together at the right time. That`s storytelling.
VARGAS: In the end the writers union is simply asking for a reality check so the writers can get even bigger checks.
VARGAS: The networks and production companies named in the suit are keeping mum. But you can be sure SHOWBIZ TONIGHT will keep you updated on what happens when the writers union/reality showdown continues -- Jason.
CARROLL: All right. Very good. Sibila Vargas, thanks very much for that.
BRYANT: So is all this reality really -- hello. It`s very difficult to say. Is all this reality dish reality TV`s dirty little secret? Well, that is the topic of tonight`s "Showbiz In Depth": Reality shows, are they scripted?
Joining us live from Chicago, Jamie Blyth, a former contestant on the first season of "The Bachelorette." Jamie has written a book called "Fear is No Longer My Reality." It`s about his dealing with and finally overcoming a panic anxiety disorder.
Jamie, thanks for joining us. Now I want to get right to it. What are your thoughts on this? Is reality TV scripted?
JAMIE BLYTH, FORMER CONTESTANT, "THE BACHELORETTE": Well, I think it`s a little bit of both. It`s called reality and TV. And these producers and these editors make a lot of money. They`re there for a reason. So I think there is a little bit of both, a little duality.
BRYANT: Well, you should know first-hand, because certainly weren`t there times on your episodes of "The Bachelorette" where they prompted you or perhaps scripted you?
BLYTH: Yes, I think one memorable scene was when I took a shower with Trista on the first date.
BLYTH: Not that I normally don`t do that -- not that I don`t normally don`t do that in real life, right?
BLYTH: That`s protocol. That`s standard. But yes, the producers -- Trista and I were having a massage, and that was hard enough for a first date. And then all of a sudden they said, "I want you guys to go take a shower together."
And I was like, you know, "What are you guys doing to me?" You know? This is terrible.
BLYTH: And so we literally walked to the shower. I`m trying to figure out, what in the heck am I going to say to this girl? I don`t know her. I just met her. My mom is watching, my grandma, my boss. And all of a sudden, I`m in the shower with some girl I don`t know.
BLYTH: And the first thing I did, I just started taking a shower, wash my arm pits, wash my hair. Couldn`t think of anything. A disaster. But the producers dubbed the sound and it made it look kind of sensual. But in reality, it was a disaster.
BRYANT: Were you clothed at all in this shower?
BLYTH: I was wearing my yellow banana sling thong. No, I had a blue bathing suit on, and so did she.
BLYTH: So it wasn`t -- it wasn`t that promiscuous or anything, no.
BRYANT: OK. My goodness. Things were heating up here.
BLYTH: You`re right.
BRYANT: Did they do other things to help create romance on the set. I mean, as far as sometimes you`ll see people kissing. Do they tell you, "Hey, you know, plant one on her"?
BLYTH: Yes, unfortunately, I got the dis kiss. She didn`t kiss me back.
But the producers came up to us. It was a group date. It was Bob Ginny (ph) and myself, Charlie Mother (ph), a couple other people. And there wasn`t any romance. We were, like, driving around in go-carts for our group date, which is a great place to meet a girl, as well, that you might marry.
And a producer said, "Hey, we have to have some sparks here. Somebody`s got to, you know, make out with her or do something." And nobody would do it. And I just said -- because they didn`t feel comfortable in a group setting -- I said I would do it. Kind of knowing that it wasn`t the right circumstance, that it was rushed. And she ended up not kissing me, and that cost me advancing another round.
BRYANT: Well, but then again, Jamie, you would have had to fake things for another, who knows, how many more episodes. So maybe you got off easy.
BRYANT: Thanks for joining us, Jamie Blyth.
BLYTH: Thanks very much.
BRYANT: Now we want to hear from you. It is our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day. Reality shows: do you think they`re scripted? You can vote at CNN.com/ShowbizTonight. You can also send e-mail to us at ShowbizTonight@CNN.com. We`ll read some of your thoughts later in the show.
CARROLL: And coming up, want to be the next "Apprentice"? Casting is under way, and SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is there.
BRYANT: Plus, the summer blockbusters are coming to your living room even before they`re on DVD. Coming up, the movies people see, the video games people play.
CARROLL: And the pictures tell the story. But will cell phones revolutionize the way you get your news? SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with the answers, coming up.
CARROLL: Now, in "The Show`s Biz," "Batman Begins," "Fantastic Four" and "Revenge of the Sith." Three of the hottest movies of the summer are also three of the hottest video games. Fans are lining up to get them while stars like Christian Bale, Katie Holmes and Jessica Alba are lining up to be a part of them.
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s A.J. Hammer has that story.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who are you?
A.J. HAMMER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This summer you can see Batman on screen in movie theaters, and you can be Batman on your video game system at home.
CHRISTIAN BALE, ACTOR: I`m Batman.
HAMMER: The smash hit film "Batman Begins" is just one of this year`s big summer movies that has spawned big video games of their own.
PHILIPPE ERWIN, WARNER BROTHERS INTERACTIVE: I think that the days of the games as being an after-thought are probably no longer the case.
HAMMER: That`s for sure. Americans are spending millions more on video games than they are at the box office. And Hollywood has noticed.
So now, game makers and filmmakers are putting a lot of time, effort and money to make sure that their movies and their videogame spin-offs kick butt.
The guys who made the "Batman Begins" videogame got a front-row seat at the ultra secret "Batman Begins" movie shoot.
ERWIN: We had access to the set. We had access to talk to the filmmakers. We had access to sit down with the set designers, with the stunt coordinators. You name it.
HAMMER: And they had access to the actors.
BALE: Falconi sent them to kill you. You know what I want.
HAMMER: Christian Bale, who plays Batman for the big screen, re- created his role for the video game.
BALE: How do I get next door? We need evidence so Rachel can nail Falconi when I deliver him.
HAMMER: Other "Batman Begins" cast members did the same, including Katie Holmes, Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman, who gave the game makers a little scare during his recording session.
ERWIN: Morgan Freeman started talking in a different voice, in a very high-pitched voice, and all of a sudden we all looked at him and thought, going, "Uh-oh, is this going to be a tough session?" And sort of at the end of the session his voice came back on and he said, "I was just kidding." So that was -- that gave us a little fright. But then everything got back to normal.
HAMMER: "Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith" is also staging a dual assault on the movie and videogame world. The videogame has sold almost a million copies. Like the movie, it`s a full-scale production made with heavy input from the Jedi master himself, George Lucas.
JOHN GEOGHEGAN, LUCASARTS: Creative genius. And he really takes video gaming to heart, and it`s important to him that the game experience lives up and in its own way, you know, dimensionalizes the movie effectively.
HAMMER: Look for a game based on the "Fantastic Four" movie, which will include voice work from Jessica Alba and the rest of the movie`s cast. And "Lord of the Rings" director Peter Jackson, who`s hard at work on the upcoming "King Kong" remake, is also heavily involved in making the companion videogame.
ROB SMITH, "OFFICIAL XBOX MAGAZINE": I think that some directors now are seeing the interactive opportunity as a way of telling more of their story than they`re able to within the constraints of their two- hour movie and their budgets from the studios.
HAMMER: Problem is, games based on movies can be a hard sell. Out of last year`s top 10 selling games, only one was based on a movie, "Spider-Man 2." But that`s a trend game makers hope to buck this summer.
GEOGHEGAN: We don`t want to bring shame on the movie. We want the videogame to be as terrific an experience as the movie is going to be.
ERWIN: I think the lesson to take is, you know, really above and beyond all, try to make a great game.
CARROLL: Again, that was SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s A.J. Hammer reporting.
A videogame featuring the cast of the new movie "Fantastic Four" is actually already out on the shelves. Michael Chiklis, who plays The Thing, tells ZapToIt.com the eight-hour recording session for the game was a tough experience. He says, quote, "The Thing`s voice is not exactly easy on the throat."
BRYANT: Well, I`ll tell you, I had a chance to see "Fantastic Four," and I really enjoyed it. But what will "People" magazine have to say about it? We have that review, coming up in picks and pans.
Plus, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT goes one-on-one with Bono in Scotland. Was Live 8 enough? Will the London terror attacks hurt the cause? So much to talk about with him, and we did today. That interview will be coming up.
SOPHIA CHOI, CNN HEADLINE NEWS ANCHOR: Hi there. I`m Sophia Choi. Here`s your "Headline Prime Newsbreak."
Forecasters are warning people in Florida not to try to ride out the storm as Hurricane Dennis heads their way. Dennis has already killed 10 people in Cuba and five people in Haiti. Dennis remains a strong category-four storm with top sustained winds of 145 miles-an- hour. The National Hurricane Center says Dennis most likely will remain a major hurricane as it moves into the Gulf of Mexico.
President Bush has returns from the G-8 summit. His first stop when he arrived in Washington was the British Embassy where he signed a condolence book in the wake of yesterday`s terror attacks.
Meantime, London`s deputy police commissioner says some of the bombs detonated in the city`s subway system yesterday likely were placed on the floors of the cars. Forty-nine bodies have been identified, and at least 700 people were hurt, and many are still missing. Despite the bombing toll, some commuter trains and buses were up and running again today.
Well, that`s the news for now. I`m Sophia Choi. Now back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
CARROLL: Tonight on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, U2 on the G-8. World leaders make a promise, but is it good enough? More from U2 front-man Bono.
BRYANT: And are the Fantastic Four fantastic? A review of what`s big at the box office this weekend. It`s "People`s" picks and pans.
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IOAN GRUFFUDD, ACTOR, "FANTASTIC FOUR": Hi, everybody. This is Ioan Gruffudd. And if it happened today, it`ll be on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
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BRYANT: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, TV`s only live entertainment news show. It is 31 minutes past the hour. And I`m Karyn Bryant.
CARROLL: And I`m Jason Carroll. Here are tonight`s "Hot Headlines."
BRYANT: Nearly four years after the tragic day, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT learned today that there`s going to be a September 11th movie. Nicolas Cage will star and Oliver Stone will direct the picture. It will be based on the rescue of two Port Authority police officers at Ground Zero of the World Trade Center. And the movie is still untitled, and we don`t know when it will be released.
CARROLL: And tonight, the attack on London is leading to new cancellations. Rock bands Queen and REM have postponed their weekend concerts because of security concerns. And "Billboard" magazine says that Snoop Dogg`s upcoming show in Manchester may be scrapped, too.
Sum 41, Prodigy, and Queens of the Stone Age are also holding off. However, after being dark last night, London theater district is open for business today.
And dramatic images of the attack on London have blanketed the airwaves. But perhaps the most compelling pictures and video came from cell phones shot from the people trapped inside the subways. Tonight, we`re taking a look at how those cell phones are changing the landscape and how we get our news.
Joining me now live from Hollywood is co-editor of the web log Boingboing.net, Xeni Jardin and Chris Marlowe, editor of digital media for the "Hollywood Reporter."
Thank you so much for joining us. First question -- and I`m going to give this to you, Chris -- which is, you know, I think a lot of us saw those images from that cell phone. And I`m just wondering, what type of significance do you think this is going to have? That image went everywhere, all over various news organizations.
CHRIS MARLOWE, "THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER": Well, I think it just shows the immediacy of the experience is something that traditional news hasn`t been able to deliver in the past. You can`t have a reporter everywhere where news breaks. But with advances in technology, the ubiquity of cell phones that are connected, broadband to the Internet even, you can now have people on the street when it happens helping to report the news. It`s really just the digital version of eyewitness accounts.
CARROLL: Xeni, do you agree?
XENI JARDIN, BOINGBOING.NET: Absolutely. I mean, one of the things that`s so strange and ironic about how this played out in this particular incident, London has more surveillance cameras throughout that city than nearly any other major urban area in the world, half a million surveillance cameras.
Each Londoner is caught on camera some 300 times a day, by some estimates. And this is almost like a form of reverse surveillance, if you will, this way of documenting our world. And this is how history is going to be written from now on. It used to be written in books. Now, I mean, people are writing it with cell phones as they go about their daily lives.
CARROLL: You know, Xeni, Chris, I was reading somewhere today that NBC Network may start equipping reporters with these video cell phones. I`m wondering, are we getting a peek of what the future may hold for us?
MARLOWE: Absolutely. There`s no question about it, that news entertainment channels, anyone who`s producing news for the media to transmit, however that may be, is just looking at these as additional -- I usually say like a new color crayon in the box so that they can color their stories accurately and filter them in the appropriate context.
CARROLL: Xeni, I see you nodding your head there.
JARDIN: Absolutely. One of the most profound things about the way this story unfolded on the Internet yesterday, too, is sites like Wikipedia, which is a big, collaborative online encyclopedia, there`s an entry for the London bombings that was edited some 2,800 times yesterday.
And that`s really amazing when you start thinking about the fact that that`s just maintained by volunteers, by people all over the Internet who are just following this story.
So, where on CNN, you might learn about the bomb blast or see the wreckage, here you`ll see the location of the Tube stops, you`ll see history, you`ll see all this other context that we used to have to wait for print media to provide. But here it`s being provided by fellow citizens on the Internet, if you will.
CARROLL: Well, you know how the media is, the rush to be first on the air with something. And I`m wondering, with this new type of technology, is there concerns about how you make sure that what we`re looking at is authentic and valid? What about those types of concerns?
JARDIN: That`s going to be one of the big challenges, as all of this begins to become even more popular, and as the rate of this information increases, the issue of trust. I mean, that`s something that we certainly have with conventional media.
But systems of trust, how you go about authenticating this kind of fast information as it`s just coming at us in such a fast barrage, that`s going to be a big issue as time unfolds.
CARROLL: All right. Fascinating story.
MARLOWE: I couldn`t agree more.
CARROLL: Fascinating story, ladies. I want to thank both of you for joining with us, Xeni Jardin and Chris Marlowe, thanks very much.
Karyn, back to you.
BRYANT: Well, tonight, we go one-on-one with Bono about everything going on around the world, from the attacks in London, to Live 8 and G- 8. The U2 front-man took time out today to speak with me from Gleneagles, Scotland, where world leaders at the G-8 summit have pledged $50 billion in aid to Africa by 2010. That is double what it is right now.
I asked Bono if he thought that that was enough.
BONO, U2 LEAD SINGER, ACTIVIST: I`m very excited. I mean, it`s hard to punch the air because there`s so much to do, you know, still to do. But you know, we`ve climbed a mountain today, you know? But you know, as you stand over the top, you realize there are higher peaks on the other side.
But actually, you just got to take pause and look back down the valley and see how far we`ve come. We`ve come an incredible distance. African aid has doubled today. Ten thousand people, they`re saying, who would have lost their lives to AIDS, by 2010 will be on antiretroviral drugs. Whether that`s 8 million, you know, that`s an extraordinary number.
This is amazing. I hope Americans know just what has been accomplished today. As I say, much more to do. I wish there was more American money on the table. But there`s certainly plenty of American skin in the game.
BRYANT: You talked a minute ago about America perhaps not having enough dollars in the game. You know, I know that you`ve been feisty with the Canadian prime minister and, you know, you`ve mixed it up with him a little bit. How much more are you thinking of getting in the face of Bush and getting in the face of American politics to get us to sort of up our percentage?
BONO: Well, you know, we`ve had our disagreements, myself and President Bush. But I understand that, you know, the president of the United States doesn`t have to have an Irish rock star in the Oval Office. I understand. OK, doesn`t have to listen to me.
But guess what? He has listened. And you know, things do get heated. And you know, I was very upset that the AIDS drugs weren`t getting out there fast enough when I was in there 12 months ago, 18 months ago. Well, guess what? The president came through on that.
And now, 230,000 Africans are on anti-retroviral drugs. That is an extraordinary thing, in one year. And the president can be proud of that. But of course, we`re going to -- it`s never going to be enough for me. I`m going to continue to be a pain in his ass, too.
BRYANT: Well, you`ve never been bashful about saying, you know, you love to talk, it`s hard to shut you up, and you`ll get in anybody`s face who will hear you. And I love that. I`ve loved it for years.
But there is certainly, you know, that idea that, well, what can pop stars do to change the world? And I`m sure that, even though there were billions of people watching and listening to Live 8, there were certainly still those cynics who said, you know, "Those pop stars are backstage eating sushi in an air-conditioned room. What do they know about changing the world? How can pop stars change the world?"
BONO: Pop stars can`t change the world. I mean, you`re absolutely right, or rock stars, or hip-hop stars, or film stars. But our audience will change the world. And you know, they`re aged between 18 and 35, our audience.
They`re the floating vote. They haven`t made up their made where they`re going to vote. They`re dangerous at the ballot box. They`re to be watched. They`re an important constituency.
But we have a mandate now. The One Campaign got out there. There`s 1.4 million Americans in this last week -- it came to that figure -- have signed on not just to put their hands in their pocket, because we weren`t asking for them to put their hands in their pocket, but to come work on this with us, 1.4 million. And that will swell to 3, 4, 5 by the next election.
This is important, not just for Africa. This is important for Americans, for Europeans, because it shows the world that we have some values, that we have an integrity.
But in the end, I`m a songwriter. My job is to write songs. President Bush, it`s his job to write history, OK? But now can we have a chapter we can all be proud of? That`s the question.
BRYANT: Bono is also urging people who watched the Live 8 concerts to make sure the leaders stick to their pledges.
CARROLL: And coming up, Conan O`Brien is up to something fishy. We`ll find out what it is in "Laughter Dark."
BRYANT: Also, braving downpours for the Donald. Why hundreds came to the streets for the Trump.
CARROLL: And is "Dark Water" a bright choice? It`s Jennifer Connolly`s new movie. A review coming up in "People" magazine`s "Picks and Pans," next.
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JESSICA ALBA, ACTRESS: Hello. I am Jessica Alba. I play the Invisible Woman in "Fantastic Four." This is our premiere. Welcome to Liberty Island. And I`m wearing Gucci tonight, a Gucci dress, and Richard Shaw (ph) shoes, and some Jacob and Company diamonds.
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CARROLL: And welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Jason Carroll.
Tonight, actress Catherine Zeta-Jones no longer has to worry about a stalker who she said made her life a living hell. Dawnette Knight was sentenced in Los Angeles today to three years in jail after pleading no contest to charges of stalking Zeta-Jones and making criminal threats.
Zeta-Jones said Knight sent violent graphic letters, including one that said, quote, "We are going to slice her up like meat on a bone and feed her to the dogs." The Chicago star and wife of Michael Douglas wasn`t there for the sentencing, but in a letter, read aloud in the Los Angeles courtroom, Zeta-Jones called Knight, quote, "evil." The judge ordered Knight to have no contact with Zeta-Jones for 10 years.
BRYANT: Rain didn`t keep hundreds of Donald Trump wannabes away this morning. Hundreds of "Apprentice" candidates braved bad weather in New York City to try out for the fifth edition of the NBC reality show. And of course, America`s best-known boss, Donald Trump, was on hand to greet the hopefuls and so was SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, I think I am nervous, absolutely. I think it would be strange not to be nervous at all. I mean, you want to make an impression, a good one. So, yes, I`m nervous.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How will you impress Mr. Trump today?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I talk with my hands a lot. I`m Italian. And I`m a high school football coach, so not a lot to do with business, but I know how to run teams.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I actually am a speaker and a presenter. That`s what I do for a living, along with being a professional tri- athlete. And I really feel like I have the poise and the confidence to get up there and really hit a home run this morning.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`ll definitely give him a two-minute commercial on my background, and I hope that my sheer personality will also win him over.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What kind of boss is Donald Trump?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What kind of boss? Well, from what I can see, I think he`s a tough boss. But I think he`s fair. And I think you learn a lot from someone like that.
BRYANT: The fourth season of "The Apprentice" premieres in September.
So what do you think about reality shows? Well, we`ve been asking you to vote on our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT "Question of the Day." Reality shows: Do you think they`re scripted? You can keep voting at CNN.com/showbiztonight and write us at SHOWBIZTONIGHT@CNN.com. Your e- mails are coming up at 54 past the hour.
CARROLL: Time now for "Showbiz Guide," where throughout the week we help you decide where to spend your dollars on movies, music, DVDs and more. Tonight, "People" magazine`s "Picks and Pans." New movies, "Fantastic Four" and "Dark Water" are out there in theaters today.
Joining us live in New York City is "People" magazine movie critic Leah Rozen. Let`s first start talking about -- if I can say it -- "Fantastic Four." I`m just wondering, you know, these superheroes, a lot of hype about this movie. But I`m just wondering, does this movie have enough to take over "War of the Worlds"?
LEAH ROZEN, "PEOPLE" MAGAZINE: It may beat it at the box office, but this is less than "Fantastic." We`re talking the "Fatuous Four." This is a superhero movie, basically cheesy. It`s aimed at 12-year-old boys.
You know, 12-year-old boys who love the comic, they might be interested. Twelve-year-old boys at heart, and we know they`re often older than 12, they might love it. But this is just in no way -- this is not "Spiderman." This is not "Batman." This is a far less interesting film.
CARROLL: But what about the hard-core fans? I mean, do you think the hard-core fans are going to enjoy this?
ROZEN: Yes, they`re going to go. And they`ll go. I mean, hardcore comic book fans, because, yes, there are those heroes they`ve read for 20-something years on the screen. But anyone else, this does not transcend the page of the comic book.
CARROLL: It`s going to take more than 12-year-old boys to make it at the box office.
Let`s talk about something for the adults. "Dark Water," thriller, that`s going to be out in theaters as well. This is a movie that you were telling me initially the writer from "The Ring," very successful thriller, is involved in with this, as well.
ROZEN: This is a remake. Hollywood is now remaking Japanese horror films. Same guy who did "The Ring," same guy who did "Dark Spirit" -- or was that what it was called? This is another one of his films.
It was made in Japan as "Dark Water." They`ve remade it. They`ve set it in New York City. It`s creepy. It`s not jump-out-of-your-seat scary. I would say it`s creepy, but you really have a sense of a lot of very talented people making a minor vehicle.
CARROLL: What about Jennifer Connolly, very quickly? This is sort of a departure for her.
ROZEN: Jennifer Connolly is a terrific actress, but she should be working on material probably better than this.
CARROLL: So her review on this is sort of so-so?
ROZEN: My review on this is mixed. Good people, but unless you`re a horror film fan, you don`t have to go to see this one. Sorry.
CARROLL: All right, Leah Rozen, thanks very much for that. Tough week. Leah Rozen, thank you very much.
For more "Picks and Pans," check out the new issue of "People" magazine out on newsstands now.
BRYANT: Well, I may not be a 12-year-old boy, but I liked "Fantastic Four."
It is time now to get your laugh on in "Laughter Dark." As we do every night, we bring you the late-night laughs you may have missed. In the spirit of summertime, Conan O`Brien felt the need to put a twist on a favorite late-night character.
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CONAN O`BRIEN, HOST, "LATE NIGHT": Finally, in the past year or so, soda manufacturers have scored a big hit by adding lime to their products. There`s Coke with lime. There`s Pepsi with lime, and many, many more.
Well, our next character is the latest variation on soda with lime. Here`s "Vigoda with Lime."
BAND (singing): Vigoda with lime. Vigoda with lime. TV`s fish is now more delish with a tangy twist of lime. Vigoda with lime. Vigoda with lime. Vigoda with lime.
O`BRIEN: That was so stupid, we may be arrested.
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BRYANT: Very funny. Tonight on "Late Bight," Conan welcomes Dan Aykroyd.
And earlier this week, rapper Lil` Kim was sentenced to prison for perjury. On last night`s "Tonight Show," Jay Leno took some shots at the rapper`s little situation and even found out her new nickname.
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JAY LENO, HOST, "THE TONIGHT SHOW": What a crowd. You sound like one of the guards at the prison when they heard Lil` Kim was coming.
You know about that? Grammy winning-rapper Lil` Kim sentenced to a year in jail. I didn`t even know she works for the "New York Times." It`s amazing.
No, she was fined $50,000 for lying to a federal grand jury. Now she`s going to prison, or as rappers call that, "good career move." Give you that street cred is what you need.
Actually, she`s the first major female rap star to go to prison. In fact, you know what her prison name is? Anybody know? Martha Stewart.
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BRYANT: Tonight, Jay welcomes "Wedding Crashers" star Owen Wilson and the "Dancing with the Stars" winner Kelly Monaco.
CARROLL: And there`s still time for you to sound off in our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT "Question of the Day." Reality shows: Do you think they`re scripted? Vote at CNN.com/showbiztonight or write us at showbiztonight@CNN.com. We`ll read some of your e-mails live, coming up next.
BRYANT: Hang in there, Jas.
Well, it is time now for the "Entertainment Weekly" must-list. Here are five things "EW" says you have got to check out this week.
First, throw on your cowboy hat and saddle up for the second half of the "Into the West" series. It`s sure to be a thrilling ride. Next, "Entertainment Weekly" says you should develop a healthy obsession for "Monk: Season 3." It is new on DVD. I love "Monk."
Then check out Silentbobspeaks.com. It`s Kevin Smith`s online diary about Hollywood. And this Silent Bob is definitely not silent when it comes to Tinseltown. And from Hollywood to Bollywood, new on DVD, musical film "Bride and Prejudice." It`ll have you smiling and singing in no time.
And finally, they say invade your nearest theater and check out "War of the World" for some frightful fun.
For more of the must-list, pick up a copy of "Entertainment Weekly" on newsstands now.
CARROLL: Throughout the show, we`ve been asking you to vote online on our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT "Question of the Day." Reality shows: Do you think they`re scripted?
Let`s take a look at how the vote is going so far. A whopping 93 percent of you say yes.
CARROLL: Hello! You think they are scripted. And only 7 percent of you say no, they aren`t.
And we`ve gotten some e-mails, as well. Damian from Arizona writes, "Anyone would be a fool to say they are not for the simple fact that the writers are constantly coming up with trashy shows."
But Jennifer from Maine disagrees. "Morally, they can`t be scripted. It would be wrong to call it `reality television.`" She`s living in a dream world.
And Norma from Nevada has this to say. "They are about as far from reality as the Earth is from the moon." You can keep voting at CNN.com/showbiztonight if you want.
BRYANT: Well, it`s time to see what`s playing on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT next week.
CARROLL: And we hear the Marquee Guy has something really special to say.
MARQUEE GUY: Get ready to do the time warp because it`s "Showbiz Flashback Week." We`ve got your favorite music stars right here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT: `80s teen queen Tiffany, Jefferson Starship`s Grace Slick, and `70s heartthrob Donny Osmond. Take a stroll down memory lane and find out what they are all up to.
But, wait. There`s more. Order before midnight tonight and you`ll get an ice crusher. No, just kidding. You`ll just have to come back for "Flashback Week," all next week on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
This is the Marquee Guy, and I`m having a flashback to when I was the Marquee Boy.
BRYANT: Goodness. That`s a good one.
Well, Jason, thank you joining me here all week.
CARROLL: Thank you for having me. It was a blast.
BRYANT: It`s been a pleasure.
CARROLL: A lot of fun. And that`s SHOWBIZ for tonight, I`m Jason Carroll. This is it.
BRYANT: And I`m Karyn Bryant. Stay tuned for the latest from CNN Headline News.
SOPHIA CHOI, CNN HEADLINE NEWS ANCHOR: Hi there, I`m Sophia Choi. Let`s get to your "Headline Prime Newsbreak."
Police in London are warning the death toll may continue to rise from yesterday`s mass transit bombings there. So far, 49 bodies have been identified, but crews are still working to recover victim`s remains.
Above ground, relatives and friends of the missing spent another anxious day visiting hospitals and handing out photos of their loved ones. And despite the wreckage, service on the city`s subways did resume today.
People in southern Florida are bracing for the already deadly Hurricane Dennis. The killer storm is expected to move up Florida`s west coast this weekend and hit the gulf coast sometime Sunday. It reportedly claimed the lives of 10 people in Cuba and five in Haiti.
And there`s speculation that the long-awaited retirement announcement may come soon from Supreme Court Chief Justice William Rehnquist. TV news crews waited three hours in the rain outside his home this morning, but Rehnquist said nothing.
Well, that`s the news for now. I`m Sophia Choi.