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Texas Fugitive Surrender: Mother of Slain Officer Discusses Capture of Final Two Prison EscapeesAired January 24, 2001 - 7:49 a.m. ET
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LINDA STOUFFER, CNN ANCHOR: We take you back now, though, to our top story today, the surrender of the last two of the Texas fugitives. If I can remind you, what happened in late December, Christmas Eve, as police tell it, those seven fugitives who had escaped from a South Texas prison walked into a sporting goods store in Irving, Texas, that's the Dallas area, and, as police tell it, they took guns, they took money, and they also shot a police officer there to death.
Now we're joined this morning by Jayne Hawkins. She is the mother of that police officer who was killed there, the mother of Aubrey Hawkins.
Ms. Hawkins, thank you so much for being with us today.
JAYNE HAWKINS, MOTHER OF SLAIN POLICEMAN: You're welcome.
STOUFFER: I'm wondering if you can first tell me how you're feeling right about now?
HAWKINS: Well, I feel elated and relieved that -- and safe.
STOUFFER: When did you first hear of the developments overnight, as police located those final two fugitives? and what did you think?
HAWKINS: Well, I'd gotten up so early every morning to do news shows that I was very asleep by 10:30 last night. And so I didn't find it out until a Denver radio station called me this morning and told me.
STOUFFER: And you must have been watching and hearing that unusual television interview that they gave. And both men have complaints about the Texas system, what happens in the prison sentencing. Do you have an ear for any of what they had to say?
HAWKINS: Well, I think they're behind me 100 percent in that the Texas criminal -- Texas prison system is as corrupt as they are. That's one quote, I think Newbury said that.
STOUFFER: In what way? What are your complaints then about the system?
HAWKINS: Well, you don't have enough time.
STOUFFER: OK, what, in particular, struck you though about what they said during that unusual interview?
HAWKINS: Well, I'm not exactly sure which one you're speaking of. The Denver radio station played something for me when I was almost asleep this morning. That's all I've heard. Since then, I've done nothing but talk to news people.
If he's talking about rehabilitation in the prisons and woe is him, you know, he wants all this rehabilitation, then I suggest he go to work and not commit a crime and get in the prison system and expect us to educate them. They can go to work, they can seek financial aid, there are many ways to get an education without expecting the prison system to do it for them.
And, you know, I mean, if they make one mistake and they're able to be rehabilitated, I think our system will take care of that.
STOUFFER: And, Ms. Hawkins, any thoughts on what you hope happens next to these fugitives who surrendered this morning, also the others who are in custody? What do you hope they face in the system from here on?
HAWKINS: Well, my hope is that the state of Colorado will not have to bear the burden of supporting these people until they can extradite them to Texas. Because it is a -- it is a Texas problem. And they need to be removed from Colorado very quickly, stop spending the Colorado people's money, our money, and let's get on with it and do whatever we're going to do with them.
STOUFFER: Jayne Hawkins, thank you so much for your thoughts today. Condolences on the death of your son.
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