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Another reason to leave Iraq. How can we support a gov't that allows "honor killings"? I thought we were helping set up a democracy. I don't care if the practice is steeped in the Iraqi culture. Seems to me the people of Iraq don't know the meaning of the word. They don't deserve another American death let alone the thousands that have died already.
Posted By Tom Tarka Lake Placid NY : 11:18 AM ET
RE: Romney Scores...

I totally agree with Romney, as long as the illegal's can keep renewing these proposed visas indeffinately they are getting amnesty! Why would they try to become legal when they can slip in the back door and still get all the perks!
Posted By Cynthia, Covington, Ga. : 11:32 AM ET
Re: Specter:'No confidence....

I think Specter is wrong on this. Nothing is going to make Gonzales leave...especially not any vote. The only way he is going to leave unfortunately is when he is kicked out by the Pres. I don't see that happening any time soon!
Posted By Cynthia, Covington, Ga. : 11:36 AM ET
Did Gonzales do what he was asked to do? If yes, then he shouldn't be fired. If he was told to do it and didn't fire them, then he would have been replaced or fired. He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

And hasn't this been done before by the Clinton administration? If yes, then he shouldn't be fired. Precedent was set at this time, so why the big issue now?
Posted By Em, Toronto, Ontario, Canada : 4:21 PM ET
In my opinion, contrary to Fratto's statement, I found Former President Carter's statements to have carried a great deal of relevancy.

I applaud his courage, forthrighteousness and concern for his Nation. I am sure many share his views. And I am also sure that as a Nobel Peace Prize Winner he could provide much insight to the attainment of Peace should this administration decide to make Peace their Priority.

The billions of dollars this administration has poured into this war thus far with no results to date, would have fed every hungry child around the world for at least three years, rebuilt New Orleans and/or restored at least half of the Mid East! How does this speak to relevancy?

President Bush's Second Veto on the War Funding Bill seems to send a clear message. It also seems President Bush has forgotten that it is not only the US who are supporting this War effort. Nato Allies are also supporting this war and have endured losses as a result. But, they too appear to be irrelevant. As are the millions of voices pleading in unison around the world to end this war.

The Daily news reports from Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel, Palestine, and now Lebannon clearly confirm that this war will NOT BE WON by military force. This War as Bill Clinton, retired Generals, Gravel, and many more have stated will only achieve success through International diplomacy and discourse. I totally agree, while being totally aware of my irrelevancy.
Posted By Tricia Charlottetown, PEI : 6:35 PM ET
Blogger Tom Tarka doesn't think Iraqis know the meaning of democracy.


I agree with that. We in the U.S. are idealistic, but arrogant to think that people who have been living under a dictatorship will know what to do with freedom when they get it! I think some people look for a "big brother" when that's all they have had in their lives. The avg. American can't conceive that there are people who don't know how to think for themselves and may resist any change to begin democracy into their life.
Posted By xtina - chicago IL : 12:12 PM ET
You know I was thinking the exact same thoughts - and I agree explicitly with T. Tarka and Xtina.
I too feel this is one important reason to pull the troops out of Iraq. With maybe one difference?

I do not feel another Nation has the Right to impose their Laws/Politics/Beliefs/Way of Life on another Nation/Country for any reason.

Iraq has never lived in a Democratic Society and I don't feel they know what Democracy means. I really don't believe you can teach a Nation Democracy in four years or forty. We were born/bred and fed Democracy. Big Difference.

And if Iraq is steeped in this sort of behaviour (honour killings) and/or these beliefs than that is their perogative and right and in many cases their inherent nature. Another country dictating to them won't make it happen.

You can lead a Horse to Water but you Can't Make Him Drink. I feel this is exactly the case with Iraq and the Mid East. Dictating won't change inherent nature. Demonstrating by good example the benefits of Democracy may spark their interest.

However, I wouldn't say our present tactics will serve as a good example but rather as an example of Democracy at it's worst. Not a good selling feature.
Posted By Tricia Charlottetown PEI : 1:10 PM ET
President Clinton did not do the exact same thing - what Gonzales and Bush did was unique, and a complete corruption of our Justice department.

Every new president, Bush included, appoints new prosecutors at the start of his term. They are confirmed by Congress, and expected to act for Justice, not to deliver one type of justice to democrats, and another to republicans, or to pick and choose who to prosecute. They are only released for performance reasons - normally. The exceptions - two: President Nixon, and this is part of why he had to resign; and President Bush's firings of prosecutors who were either investigating Republican corruption (remember, these same prosecutors were hand-picked by Bush's team - we're not talking liberals here!), or had dismissed groundless cases against democrats.

President Clinton, Bush Sr, Reagan, Carter, etc. - did nothing like this.
Posted By Lisa, Bothell, WA : 3:27 PM ET
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