Thursday, February 02, 2006
Ethics committee goes dark
QUESTION: For all the indictments, investigations and troubling questions swirling around Congress, why have we heard so little, or more bluntly, nothing, from the House ethics committee?

ANSWER: In the mid-1990s, Democrats and Republicans became so concerned that ethics complaints were being used for unfair political attacks on each other, both parties agreed to a truce. Although few will speak publicly about it, the truce is widely acknowledged on both sides of the aisle.

The ethics committee (or as it is properly known, the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct) is made up of five Republicans and five Democrats, so neither party can fairly say the other is keeping the committee silent. People seem to be noticing: A poll in December found that almost half of the U.S. population thinks most members of Congress are corrupt.

Now we're hearing all this talk in Washington, D.C., about lobbying reform. I have no particular affection for lobbyists, but it seems to me that this is like saying, "We have a problem with policemen taking bribes, but we're not going to hold the officers accountable. We'll just come up with new laws for criminals."

Some people will always offer improper favors to people in high places. What we need are members of Congress who won't accept those favors.

So tell me what you think: Should Congress officially turn off the lights and abolish the ethics committee? Will anyone notice if they do?
Posted By Tom Foreman, CNN Correspondent: 4:08 PM ET
  199 Comments
Abolishing the ethics committee will be a tacit acknowledgement that there are no member of Congress with sufficiently clean slates that they might evaluate their colleagues without hypocrisy.

While that may be true, I suspect Congress would balk at admitting it.
Posted By Anonymous Deb Geisler, Middleton, MA : 4:18 PM ET
I believe the Ethics committee is itself a political favor for those who are in the committee. If it were abolished, would the 1/3 of the nation that voted even notice? Nope.
Posted By Anonymous Kyle, Austin TX : 4:22 PM ET
yet another case of how the closet kills! watch Brokeback Mountain for more examples.
Posted By Anonymous Mark Boston, MA : 4:24 PM ET
Does anyone in Congress care that the the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct is still there? Doesn't seem like it.

Who is on this committee?
Posted By Anonymous Linda, Butler, PA : 4:26 PM ET
Ethics among our lawmakers at the federal, state, and local levels is an oxymoron like military intelligence. Ethics went out the window with the baby when they threw the bath water out. It is time men and women of integrity hold office and won't be moved by special interests, money, or power.
Posted By Anonymous Kay, Perry FL : 4:28 PM ET
No one will notice
Posted By Anonymous James Norris,Port Charlotte,Fl : 4:33 PM ET
It's ridiculous to think this Committee had any value in the first place. And it's not just in politics...has anyone else noticed no major CEO or such come out and say that scandals such as Enron are bad? Pretty quiet on that front too.
Posted By Anonymous Sandi, New York, NY : 4:36 PM ET
We need a third party independent ethics committee that is not beholden to any party or congressman. Congress is incapable of policing itself.
Posted By Anonymous Morgan R. San Diego, CA : 4:36 PM ET
Sadly, no. Nobody will notice, at least not the people who can make a difference.
Posted By Anonymous Chris Cargill, Greensboro NC : 4:37 PM ET
If they are not doing anything, let these 10 alone. They can't/are not writing any stupid laws while doing nothing. Vote all incubments out!!
Posted By Anonymous F. B Auman, Spring Mills, Pa. : 4:39 PM ET
Congress is full of greedy politicians and the Ethics committee sitting on their cans doing nothing is nothing new. Where has everybody been?
Posted By Anonymous Carolyn Davis, Watervliet, MI : 4:40 PM ET
Why not do something intelligent, making it a crime to accept gifts or money from registered lobbists, with fines or jail time for those who give AND take? Nah, too sensible. Politicians could not live on their meager salaries,perks and retirement benefits.
Posted By Anonymous Philip, Dallas, TX : 4:44 PM ET
It is time that more "common folk" be admitted into the political arena. People who have been living and breathing the real world, not the world politicians tend to live in. Common folk who know exactly how screwed they have gotten by the career politicians out there. People who still care what their friends, family, colleagues, and co-workers think of them. People who work tirelessly for the few dollars they scrape up each week, and think nothing of stealing, lying, or violating any ethical standards - because they remember what mom and dad taught them. I think many career politicians, just like many wealthy, have the feeling that money is power, and that money can buy you out of any trouble - maybe that perspective should change?
Posted By Anonymous Marko, Champaign IL : 4:46 PM ET
Having an Ethics Committee made up of members of the House is leaving the fox in charge of the henhouse. Every federal agency has a (theoretically) independent Inspector General. Why not a similar office for our elected officials? (I know, I know, because elected office puts one, apparently, above the law.)
Posted By Anonymous Arachnae, Sterling VA : 4:49 PM ET
Would anyone working in congress actually be 'punished' for any breach of ethics? If they don't plan on doing anything about it - why have it. Company employees are fired for less that what some members of congress do routinely
Posted By Anonymous dj Delray Beach Fl : 4:53 PM ET
If it wasn't so expensive to run for office and win Congress members wouldn't have to curry favor with those who can afford to put and keep them in office. It seems that a large majority of federal legislators are very wealthy. If more average folks were in office maybe things could change. But this country seems bogged down right now. I know it could never be perfect, but maybe things could be better.
Posted By Anonymous Annabelle Echo, Chicago IL : 4:54 PM ET
Unfortunately, this committee is probably beyond help. It seems to me that a committee composed of the very people we cannot trust defeats the basic principle of the committee. If Congress really wanted the American people to trust them they would form a non-partisan committee to investigate the happenings at the Capitol. Perhaps CNN should create its own investigative commission to review our politicians.
Posted By Anonymous Kim Miller, Lancaster, PA : 5:15 PM ET
No, Congress should not abolish the Ethics Committee. Enron, Worldcom, this kind of behavior can easily occour with in congress if the ethics committee is abolished. Somebody has to hold the congress accountable for their actions...

I am in favor of the ethics committee.
This is the same reason the FCC is still in place. People was talking about it'z very demise, until, the Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction.

The citizens will never be able to find out all the details of a congressmans actions. The inner details without a third party watchdog.

iQon!
Posted By Anonymous iQon, St. Louis, Mo. : 5:34 PM ET
Mr. Foreman

Your idea of finding individuals who can represent Congress under the watchog ideals that the ethics commitee should by obiding by to begin with is quite a Utopian view and seems like an indirect call for a new, but reformed Great Compromise. I would suggest that the problem stems from those who are in the position of appointing/electing the 10 officials to form the committee. Which is basically a flawed system in itself. The temptation of political gain through "persuasion" is unavoidable. The rampant participation or on the other side, finger pointing, in regards to questionable conduct involving Congress is an unfortunate part of the game, to the point it has become the norm or so says the polls.
There is no conceivable way, as human nature dictates, especially in this political climate to appoint anyone to Congress who will not succumb to favoring pressures. Unless of course you are willing to farm embryo's and shelter them from the American mainstream whilst educating them on the political sytem until they are eligble age to take a seat. So turn the lights off and turn on the incubators.
Posted By Anonymous FR Scott, Port Perry, ONT : 5:57 PM ET
we should have more serious punishment for officials taking bribes and the like. Ultimately, this is akin to treason, so make the punishment so. Then maybe well get some more integrity in high places. Hell pay em MORE if they actually do us any good, just to make the job attractive.
Posted By Anonymous Brent Norman, OK : 6:00 PM ET
I've always heard that if you want to get to the bottom of anything, that you should "follow the money".
is it unreasonable, considering the reduced privacy that everyday citezens face under the "Patriot" act, that congressmen (and women) be monitered by an independent agency 24/7 to insure that they have no opportunity to accept, or even be offered improper favors without full public knowledge?
Posted By Anonymous Ray, Port Townsend WA : 6:17 PM ET
the Ethics Committee should all be
Independents no Republicans no
Democrats right now the fox is
guarding the chickens
Posted By Anonymous jim sloan hopwood pa : 6:17 PM ET
That depends, who is on this committee and how much does it cost? And the fact that you said they like to keep quiet about it tells me they're doing a whole lot of nothin'.
Posted By Anonymous Courtney, Chagrin Falls, OH : 6:19 PM ET
Ethics in American politics has been neutered by this committee of politicians who no longer realize why they are there in the first place...and we allow them to. We allow them because we are too comfortable to get off of our leather couch while watching our big screen TV, in our designer jeans drinking the latte we just got from Starbucks. Everyone, it is not their fault. It is ours for allowing them to be there. We vote them in again and again and again. That is if you even can even get up and vote.
Posted By Anonymous Mark in Akron, Ohio : 6:21 PM ET
Does it matter if we notice? Nothing is done about it which is why we need independent entity handling this.
Posted By Anonymous Anonymous : 6:24 PM ET
Since Congress are obviously not holding themselves accountable for the culture of corruption that has overcome the house of Representatives, it is the job of every American to hold them accountable at the polls.
Posted By Anonymous Rob, Denver CO : 6:26 PM ET
Bribery of a politician should be a capital crime for the politician taking the bribe. Execute the first politician and the rest will fall in line. The problem will go away after the first occurance and execution. P.S. - the execution should be covered by CNN in gory detail.
Posted By Anonymous William Mathis Hampton Va : 6:28 PM ET
WHAT's the USE ??? The Bush Administration hasn't had any oversight for the past 4 years, so why start now ??? It would be nice to have some of these Corrupt practices investigated, but between the White House and lack of media attention (except for you Anderson), the American people are in the Dark !!!
And this will be a permanent condition, unless we have MORE not LESS
'checks and balances' - Remember the Constitution !!!!!! Whatever happened to government, by - for and -of the PEOPLE !!!!!!!
Posted By Anonymous Brenda in Detroit Michigan : 6:30 PM ET
The fox is in the hen house and the
head hen also is on the same diet, so
the bandaid fix is only window dressing.
Posted By Anonymous DBP, Carlsbad, NM : 6:32 PM ET
Turn on the lights of the Ethics committee and see those caca roachs run.
Posted By Anonymous Mark, Placercille CA : 6:32 PM ET
Etics committee is good. In principle. But I doubt anyone will notice if it is abolished. Well, perhaps except media, who'll have something to talk about for a while. Maybe we should try an ethics committee with members that are from outside the Congress. Or even better, make it 6 to 4, one year 6 from one party, next year 6 from the other party. This way every year some abuses would be at least unveiled.
Posted By Anonymous Matilda, Ann Arbor, MI : 6:34 PM ET
Yes they should abolish the ethic's committee, obviously it is dysfunction anyway. No one will even notice, they don't do anything, anyway. But, I wouldn't look to the supreme court for "justice".
Truthfully, the only way to get a handle on this problem, is to put it to the voter's.
The more politician's ignore each other's corruption , the more unrest and distrust will boil among the public. They are all committing political suicide. The elections, next November will be every interesting to watch. I am predicting a real political storm.
Posted By Anonymous Brenda, Iva, SC : 6:37 PM ET
House ethics committee? You must be joking. Just like the hearings on how oil companies have made huge profits, any question on ethics, truth or integrity is just an excuse for a showpiece for many members of congress. It gives them the perfect stage to create the illusion of "We the people".
Until all members of congress accept that with any amount of power comes responsibility, this country will never be free of the absolute corruption and hypocrisy that is the day to day workings of the United States Congress.
Posted By Anonymous Anthony Steventon. Pagosa Springs. CO : 6:38 PM ET
"... Some people will always offer improper favors to people in
high places. What we need are members of Congress who won't
accept those favors."

Exactly right. But we won't get honest Congressmen just by
voting for people who appear honest. The worst liars and bribe
takers often have the best public faces. We have to create
institutions that discourage betrayal of the public trust.

We need laws that are very strict about what's proper and what's
not, and we have to include a lot of things in the "what's not
proper" category that are currently standard practice in
government.

We also need laws that shine bright lights on congressional,
executive branch, and lobbying behavior and make it hard and
illegal to hide questionable activities.

We need to get behind people like John McCain and Russ Feingold
who care about these issues and want to pass these kinds of laws.
This should not be a partisan issue. Democrats and Republicans
can both support campaign finance and ethics reform and we should
form grass-roots organizations to fight for it.
Posted By Anonymous Alan Meyer, Randallstown, Maryland : 6:43 PM ET
"Enron, Worldcom, this kind of behaviour can easily occour within congress if the ethics committee is abolished"
-iQon, St. Louis, Mo

But those things did happen without congressional intervention with the ethics committee in place. I think there needs to be a stonger emphasis on investigation in important ethics cases like these, but whether that would happen in the near future is pretty doubtful. We shouldn't get rid of the ethics committee, but it usually takes a national scandal like Enron, etc. for there to be any actual work being done. Money and power is more enticing than integrity, and that is quite unfortunate.
Posted By Anonymous Katherine - Anchorage, Alaska : 6:47 PM ET
What are ethics based upon anyway? Does the ethics committee have a consensus based upon the relative beliefs of these 10 congressman? Since there is appears to be an absence of ethical leadership or a standard for ethical behavior, more of the "whatever we can get away with" behavior will prevail in the future. It's only human.
Posted By Anonymous Tommy G., Pasadena, California : 6:53 PM ET
I have to wonder. Are our elected officials so corrupted by power they have replaced our version of ethical behavior with there twisted version. Now we the people have become the problem for trying to effect change to a system that by all historic accounts Isn�t broken, and all this talk about change is only talk and will be quietly swept under the rug with the revelation of some new island kidnapping or cruse ship disappearance. I have yet to meet a person with more arrogance as some in office. They need to come off there high horse and remember they work for us not corporate America. But then I keep forgetting that a corporation has more rights than a person in this country.
Posted By Anonymous Daniel B, San Francisco CA : 6:56 PM ET
When I was a consultant to the Defense Department, the rules were simple. Our clients were not allowed to accept gifts, favors, trips, meals, etc. other than a token souvenir. Even when we provided a buffet lunch as a courtesy during a seminar, some clients felt obligated to reimburse us $5 for their lunch.

If our military personnel can live up to this high standard, why can't our Senators and Representatives and their staffs?
Posted By Anonymous Milt Hess, Santa Barbara, CA : 6:56 PM ET
Members of Congress should accept ZERO gifts, lunches, travel, etc. They are paid well and have excellent benefits. So why can't they pay for their own restaurant meals and travel costs? That's a start toward cleaning up conflicts created by lobbyists and others seeking favors.
Posted By Anonymous Blaine G. Davis Yarmouth Maine : 7:03 PM ET
Yes Congress should.The committee does nothing to punish a bunch of whores gone wild. The Congress of the United States doesn't represent the common people.They prostitute themselves to the highest bidder, which usually is corporate America. Wake up American people when are you going to realize this is no longer our country but a country that belongs to big corporations who care nothing at all about us Americans only how much money they can make for themselves and their stockholders. This country is no longer a democracy it is a dictatorship run by a few. Congress will only listen to you if you buy them like the cheap whores they are!
Posted By Anonymous Jesse, Peoria,IL : 7:03 PM ET
The committee is a pointless waste of time. After all, why have a House Ethics Committee when the House has no ethics to begin with?
Posted By Anonymous S Thomas Minneapolis MN : 7:09 PM ET
What's the point of having a toothless committee if it can't serve any purpose? It has already turned itself off, all that is needed is expunge the name and give the members something productive to do.
Posted By Anonymous Joseph, Houston, TX : 7:10 PM ET
As stated in the original comment, the parties themselves have declared a �truce� of sorts where one party or it�s members won�t �rat out� members of the other party for political gain. With the entire body of people who can get an investigation started now mute (I believe the rules limit originating complaints to the members of the house), there doesn�t seem to be much chance of the committee doing anything productive without a significant change to the status quo.

As long as we have the free press we probably don�t need the committee. Let them continue to expose the Duke�s and Tom�s and the voters (and sometimes the FBI and the Judicial system) will take care of any issues they find (we sure do love to read about them when they are found out). We already have the laws in place to prosecute corruption so let�s just encourage our press to continue to keep our members of Congress honest.
Posted By Anonymous Chuck B, San Diego, CA : 7:16 PM ET
They will not regulate themselves, but they should. So I guess it's up to the voters to throw them out, or basically fire them for not doing an adequate job. Believe it or not the people are noticing.
Posted By Anonymous Pat, Park City, Utah : 7:20 PM ET
I am mistaken or didn't the Repulicans in charge change their committee members when they tried to go after their Republican leaders? Didn't they sanction their buddy three times and then lost their jobs? It seems to me the reason the committee isn't doing anything is because of FEAR for their carreers not the concern for ethics of elected officials.
Posted By Anonymous Maxx Cyberman Detroit, Mi : 7:22 PM ET
The ethics committee is dysfunctional because Congress is just a bunch of good ol' boys who protect each other. If there were TERM LIMITS there wouldn't be the blatant corruption we see now in Congress.
Posted By Anonymous Mary Ann, Tacoma WA : 7:35 PM ET
Congress should completely reconstitute the ethics committee (on Standards, hahahahaha) with all new members, consistently of Freshmen only, who seem to be the only category of Reps with any burning desire to do good.

But, no, if they abolished the committee, I sense that no one will notice they left the building.
Posted By Anonymous Ken Brooks, Mulikteo, WA : 7:46 PM ET
It's time for a new declaration of independence from a government that increasingly has become irrelevant to its people. Throw them all out -- all of them. They all slurp at the public trough.
Posted By Anonymous Dan New York : 7:53 PM ET
Sure, I will notice and I will remind others.I believe it was Thomas Jefferson that said "the free press is our greatest protection from a corrupt government" As I watched Bush in his race to war i was horrified. I wrote and called every news outlet begging them to research his 'reasoning' Then when he declared war I was so dishearted and sad about the direction I could see our country going in. Please do not let anything like that happen again. I want news and we need news. Politicians have to know someone is watching. I have been for 5 years and it is frightening what this administration is doing to our economy,our standing with the rest of the world and our environment. They have used wedge issues to divide this nation and that is how they have controlled us. Divide and conquer.We must learn to agree on the things that we all agree too and then work to compromise on the rest.When I think of our future I think. God help Us. Not God bless us.Power is adictive.
Posted By Anonymous Carol Roop Mitchell ,Indiana : 7:55 PM ET
Many years ago I had read that we no longer have a two party system, rather what we have is one party, the Demopublicans. I beleive most are in it for themselves. They would not abolish the facade that is now called the ethics committee; besides, who amongst them is ethical enough to put forth such an item to a vote??
Posted By Anonymous Robert Musial, Sacramento CA : 8:00 PM ET
The Constitution, unfortunately, gives Congress the power to police itself. That is a mistake that should be remedied. Ancient common law has long recognized that a person shouldn't be a judge in one's own case.

That ethics committee better start doing its job -- or we voters will do it for them! Toss the rascals out!
Posted By Anonymous Don, Portland, Oregon : 8:09 PM ET
Turn off the lights on the ethics committee and hopefully its ten members can instead spend that time
reading more of the laws they are passing.
Posted By Anonymous Matt, Dallas TX : 8:11 PM ET
It is so easy just to establish a committee or have a study done to pacify the folks. Just how naive do those politicians think we are? Just because we lack power to change things doesn't mean that we don't notice how corrupt Washington has become.

I do hope the Democrats develop a little backbone and start standing up to Bush and his "compassionate conservatives" who are neither compassionate (cuts in Medicaid for the poor are evident of that) and conservative (with Bush and the politicians spending money like an inebriated sailor on a 3 day pass) -- running up a debt that our grandchildren will be paying off 50 years from now.
Posted By Anonymous Alice Thomas, Sacramento, CA : 8:21 PM ET
NO, Congress should NOT abolish the Ethics Committee. The Committee should be empowered because our fast-moving cum high-tech-driven lives in this ultra-globalization era create increasingly threatening ethical conundrum. It's not only about Enron and Worldcom etc., but it's about the challenging impact of modern technolgy in many areas of our lives. God knows what will happen with genetic engineering and nanotechnology!
Posted By Anonymous Georgiana, Spring, TX : 8:30 PM ET
Ethics committee who?

I always find it ironic that conservatives/republicans are always anti-government, and rabidly say that "all politicians are corrupt", yet are the first to back Bush & Co. when it comes to policymaking.

They never take into account that those they don't trust actually aren't trustworthy.
Posted By Anonymous Dan, Tampa, FL : 8:46 PM ET
Isn't this the wolf guarding the hen house? Find another way to keep Congress in line.
Posted By Anonymous Daniel Sturgeon, expat in Tokyo, Japan : 9:35 PM ET
The public's respect for our government depends oh the integrity of people in office That respect is at a seriously low level now..
Posted By Anonymous David Lrron, Naples, FL : 9:37 PM ET
How about thoughtfully-staffed, independently-composed ethics review boards, with appropriate processes (complaints, appeals), quarterly reports, and high public accessibility? A true "CEO president" could hardly scoff at this common business approach, nor would a reimbursed employee, public or private.

And yes, at this point, it's magical thinking.
Posted By Anonymous DCH, PhD, State College, PA : 9:39 PM ET
When the corrupt are so guilty that they can't even hide it from themselves, they HAVE to hide it from public view. Time for real patriots to clean OUR House (it does belong to us you know), top to bottom!
Posted By Anonymous Morgana, bigfork, MT : 9:39 PM ET
It might seem somewhat useless for those with no ethics to protect us from those with no ethics. I, however, like to compare it to a basketball player taking a flop to draw a charge. Both teams do it, and it keeps both teams somewhat in check. Now the little kids we call politicians and lobbyists in Washington DC still play shamelessly dirty, but at least their game is somewhat in check.
Posted By Anonymous Rich Schippers, Seattle WA GO HAWKS! : 9:41 PM ET
The absence of a mere committee on ethics does not mean that Congress does not retain the power to impeach, remove, censure, or otherwise condemn the actions of a member.
Posted By Anonymous Eric, Camden (New Jersey) : 9:41 PM ET
"Does anyone in Congress care that the the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct is still there? Doesn't seem like it.

Who is on this committee?"
Posted By Linda, Butler"

Well yes, there are people in congress who care about the House Ethics Committee. Alan Meyer mentioned Sens. McCain and Feingold. As to "who is on this committee?", a more pointed question might be "Who is *not* on this committee?"

One person who is not -- any longer -- on the House Ethics Committee is its former chairman, Conservative Republican Joel Hefley of Colorado Springs, who twice voted to sanction then Majority Leader Rep. Tom Delay for ethics violations.

So where is Rep. Hefley now? Why has he not been invited back? At minimum, why no abject apologies from the "new" House leadership? The past treatment of Rep. Hefley, and his apparent continued "quarantine", speaks volumes of how ethically the entire U.S. House of Representatives takes the issue of Ethics.
Posted By Anonymous Edward Leaver, Denver CO : 9:41 PM ET
The ethics committee should be run by a group of retired judges appointed by the Supreme Court. It should have the power to remove violators from office pending the outcome of a trial on the merits of the charges. Legislators must be held to and must adhere to a higher standard.

You can't have the fox guard the henhouse...
Posted By Anonymous Sam Sternlight Los Angeles, CA : 9:42 PM ET
Perhaps there should be an independent ethics commission for all three branches of government. Appoint a bipartisan panel of ex-judges to the commission and make the appointments permanent. Give the ethics commission the power to subpoena individuals up to and including the President.
Posted By Anonymous Mark, Irmo, SC : 9:43 PM ET
The truly disheartening fact is that there is a NEED for an "ethics committee" at this level of our federal government. Sad, truly sad.
Posted By Anonymous Nathan Pruett, Mount Pleasant, S : 9:45 PM ET
No the Ethics Committee should not be abolished. They should just flip a coin whenever they are faced with an ethical question/problem. Heads they do what they are elected to do, DISCOVERY ETC. Tails they do what they are now doing.
Posted By Anonymous M.T. Tucker, Stanton, Delaware : 9:46 PM ET
Congress has an ethics committee? I thought the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct was just a retirement home for congressmen. Seriously, in order for a committee like this to be effective, it must one, have clout, and two actually use it. If it wasn't around, people would not miss it until something serious happens enough to call for the committee to be reinstated. Look at how many times Delay got in trouble, yet he became House Speaker and was able to hold that position until recently.

Having this committee is a great idea, but as it has been pointed out, who is watching the watchers? Nobody is jumping to punish the people that were dealing with him and gaining favors and if they did, what could they really do? The people elected the official, so they just can not fire them. So like Delay they would only receive a slap on the wrists and sternly tell them not to do it again.

Yes, we need lobbying reform, but why was this brought up only after a lobbyist was convicted and not while he was suspected? Why did everyone give the money they received from him to charity after his conviction and not before? Better yet, why didn�t they give it back to the people that Abramoff worked for? It�s a tax right-off for both parties if donated to charity instead of giving it back. Also, why is everyone trying to cover their tracks? It seems funny that the ones under suspicion are the ones publicly pushing for reform.

There is a serious ethical problem in congress and the ethics committee needs to do their jobs, be sterner, and curb this behavior before it gets this out of hand because once the American people find out, we want answers to why this happened and in turn, weakens our perception of the Government being able to represent us.
Posted By Anonymous Adrian, Dallas, Tx : 9:47 PM ET
yes, the ethics committee should be abolished, and it should be replaced by an independent standing commission outside Congress.
Posted By Anonymous aron, lawrence ks : 9:50 PM ET
The only way to fix these problems today is not by committee. A good start would be cleaning the entire Washington establisment out and start over from scratch. That's the only chance we have to survive.
Posted By Anonymous Ron Harris, Lincolnton, N.C. : 9:51 PM ET
I think Our government is on the way to killing the american dream buy spending all our money so they can live it up and get paid for not even doing there job. I don't think the eithics committe does any thing but show up. All in all our government officails are a lost cause and don't care about us after they after elected. They should get paid minimul wage just to see why they realy ran for a seat.
Posted By Anonymous Travis D Alamagordo, NM : 9:52 PM ET
I honestly don't know what the purview of the committee is or was. I don't know if it was effective, but I could certainly see how political opponents could level unsubstantiated charges to harass each other.

Ethics are not the same thing as the law, though we hope they match. However, our own history as a country shows that unethical laws have prevailed (slavery, segregation). This situation seems more an issue of making the laws necessary to encourage (enforce) our politicians to behave ethically.

To me, looking at it simplistically, it should be easy to eliminate the worst offenses (junkets etc). Public officials should publish their itineraries for scrutiny to the public or at least an oversight board. Plus, they should have to disclose travel arrangements. If someone is unwilling to be on record meeting with a public official, it seems more likely there might be something untoward going on.

Also, people should demand corporations not be able to make political contributions. Only voters should be able to support candidates. And even there, I believe there should be limits so that an oligarchical system can be avoided.

I am not surprised, but saddened to see so many angry comments but such apathy. C'mon folks, do you even know who your senator and representative are? Have you reviewed their voting record? Cooper Anderson isn't responsible for keeping you informed, you are! Do something if you're not happy. And not just blogging, though it's a guilty pleasure of mine too...
Posted By Anonymous Morgan, Reynoldsburg OH : 9:53 PM ET
All Elected officials should be held to a much HIGHER Standard. And if they dont then they should be removed.
Posted By Anonymous T. Chester, Lewisville, TX : 9:55 PM ET
I think the commitee was somewhat functional before the majority changed the rules a year or two ago to take any potential heat off of Mr. Delay. Remember, they actually rebuked Mr. Delay 3 times. I believe the outgoing chairman had some critical words for his own party, and the manner in which the rules were changed. I thought this was the party of integrity and reform?
Posted By Anonymous Bill, Phila. PA : 9:56 PM ET
The committee cannot be abolished. Most Americans probably do not even know what it is right now -- if it ceased to exist, the media coverage would have everyone in an uproar.

As for the larger issue of corruption (and the type of people who enter public office)... I believe the problem is that the smartest members of our society have no desire to go into politics. As a student at a reasonably prestigious university, I am appalled by the way my classmates complain about the government, while pursuing careers mostly as investment bankers. Ideally, the best and brightest young Americans should seek public office and make a difference in the system, rather than simply bemoan current politicians. That's my plan, at least....
Posted By Anonymous Theodore, Princeton NJ : 9:59 PM ET
Congress needs to drop the pretext of ethics and do what they do best: sell to the highest bidder. However, the Senate and House should keep up with technology. I would suggest putting each new proposed statute and law up on EBay where the highest bidder could get to write it. This would be capitalism at its purest and eliminate the need for any ethics panel. The proceeds could balance the budget, or more likely, pay Rep. DeLay's legal bills.
Posted By Anonymous Charles Holzer, Las Vegas, NV : 10:05 PM ET
Clearly this "truce" that has been silently agreed to by both parties is merely a way for both sides to keep each other quiet. Sure, the bipartisan nature of the committee prevents one party from dominating, but by silently agreeing to not bring ethics complaints against each other, the parties simply negate each other rather than check each other. That being said, the committee should definitely dissolve. Since neither side is willing to bring ethics complaints against the other, frankly the committee serves absolutely no purpose other than to offer the American people the facade of an oversight committee on ethics. They should stop wasting House resources on a committee that effectively does nothing.
Posted By Anonymous Matthew, Medford, MA : 10:06 PM ET
Is this America today, where some the soldiers who fight for our country and other countries have to live on welfare, while the politicians pad their pockets with as much as they can get...let them live off a common soldier's pay.
Posted By Anonymous Rob, Nashville : 10:06 PM ET
Maybe if we all called our local, state, and national news organizations editors and demanded interviews with the members of these comittee's to explain why there have been no investigations or at least whay the purpose of their comittee is if they intend to continue their boycott, they could get the impression that we care. If they did get that impression my might actually start making progress in giving the members the same impression. I personally am sick and tired of seeing twelve year old's arrested for eating french fries on the subway while our president and congress flaunt flagrant violations of our most sacred laws daily.
How about dish us out some phone numbers Anderson...people are often confused about how to let cnn and other news organizations know what stories we'd like to hear about..maybe even what stories we "don't" want to hear about. Just think we might never again have to endure 18 days of continuous coverage of a Michael Jackson trial....
Posted By Anonymous Corwin7@Juno.com Lakeland Fl : 10:08 PM ET
No one would notice. Since we citizens are uninterested in participating in our government,we can only blame ourselves.
Posted By Anonymous John Carrigy Huntsville, Al. : 10:11 PM ET
Remove all members of the House and Senate. Fire them all. Have new elections.

Anyone who has been in a political position in the last 10 years can not run for any office. They need to get a real job like the rest of us.

Either that or Thunderdrome...
Posted By Anonymous G, Los Angeles CA : 10:16 PM ET
Yes, they're not doing their job. They ignore what is presented to them, hardly meet, and it's simply a waste of time and money. If they did their job, we wouldn't be in half the mess we're in now. Disband.
Posted By Anonymous Jackie, Surprise, Arizona : 10:19 PM ET
Turn off the lights. Since none of our representatives have an ethics, why have a committee trying to regulate conduct. If they still want to have a committee, let's call it what it is- the Unethical Committe for the Representtaion of No One but Ourselves.
Posted By Anonymous Al Pfeltz, Valley Center, CA : 10:19 PM ET
Congress may flounder, as the nation flounders, in one direction or another on the ethical compass...but that does not change the fact that the foundation needs to be in place for the next Mr. Smith who chooses to go to Washington or (for one who is already there) to step up and put those who choose to not follow basic ethical standards to task.

Despite the multitude of indecencies commited by our elected officials in the last decade, the difference is now that we hear about them, constantly, whereas before it was easier to choose not to. The way we interact and learn is different. But the ethics should not be. Keep the committee alive. One day, it will serve it's purpose (I hope we all live to see that day).
Posted By Anonymous Greg Siers, Valencia, CA : 10:19 PM ET
Ethics, Politics. Damn. It's so hard to use the two words in the same serntence.It's almost like ,"Military Intelligence.
Posted By Anonymous Wayne D . Burkett, Mobile, Al : 10:25 PM ET
What a mess, the more money, the lower
the quality of representation. Someone
suggested raising their pay,some of these people would work for just what
they could steal. We have a tendacy to
lump all of them together, then I see John Murtha, then I know that is wrong.
Posted By Anonymous E. caldwell, Lawton,OK : 10:26 PM ET
I think the ethics committee should be given greater punitive powers such as the death penalty.
Posted By Anonymous Regicide, Deadwood Nevada : 10:27 PM ET
Dear Sir:'
The present system is not working, we need an independent group to monitor any abuses. This way it would be nonpartisan and would be more likely to keep people in line. As to our present problems with corruption, if your not happy with your congressman or woman then vote them out. A much better answer would be for states to adopt limits people can serve. Say two terms for the Senate and maybe three for the House. The founding fathers never looked at serving to be a lifetime job but of course they never dreamed all the perks that would thought up over the years. Where else can you give yourself a raise you don't deserve. If it were tied to performance they would owe us.
a very disgusted voter
Posted By Anonymous sandra wilton, Erie, Kansas : 10:30 PM ET
I think the Ethics Committee should remain in existence, but be someohow obliged to come up with a monthly bi-partisan report on anything going on that should concern them.

Let them make it as bland and impossible to read as they like, but let them be obliged to come up with it. They shouldn't be allowed to stand around pretending they don't notice the logs in eachother's eyes.

Either that, or an "Ethics Committee on the Ethics Committee" needs creating.

By the way, you really should get more sleep.
(just kidding)
Posted By Anonymous newyorkette, NY, NY : 10:31 PM ET
Congress should abolish the ethics committee tomorrow. It's painfully obvious that there's no sincere effort to investigate and/or police themselves. I'm reminded of the phrase "the fox guarding the hen house."
Posted By Anonymous Ralph Rose, Richmond, VA : 10:32 PM ET
Why not just do away with Congress?

They don't do anything after they are elected and go to Washington anyway do they? Seriously, most of them are retirement aged relects of ages gone by without any foundation in the realities of common people.

You indicate almost half the US population thinks the members of Congress are corrupt. I'm not suprised the other 50% are the lobbiest who don't want to ruin the scam they got going.
Posted By Anonymous M.E. Columbus, Ohio : 10:32 PM ET
In my opinion, no one will miss what is already silent! Put those political gurus doing something usfull for the people and the country!!!!!!
Posted By Anonymous John Rolls- Mound Valley- Kansas : 10:33 PM ET
An ethics committee only works when you're dealing with ethical people. That pretty much eliminates congress, the senate, government officials and other office holders.
Posted By Anonymous Gene Scala, New Castle, PA : 10:35 PM ET
Since Republicans are in charge of the Senate and the house and are unwilling to hold hearings on the Iraq war lies. What makes you think that they are willing to police themselves. Whatever happened to the "Contract with America"?
Posted By Anonymous Alex, Wichita KS : 10:36 PM ET
The ethics committee was useless the moment they chose to police themselves. Checks and balances can only be effective when it's outside the influence of those being monitored. That will never happen as none of them have the political fortitude for real reform. However, we should see the lowest incumbent retention in a long long time. The only real checks and balances remaining.
Posted By Anonymous John C, Panama City, FL : 10:36 PM ET
Most of the congress members get by the committee by making inside deals anyway. The comittee of eithics board is useless as long as it is headed by the congress members. It should be ran by impartial party without connection to one side or the other.
Posted By Anonymous Neal, Sacramento California : 10:37 PM ET
Why think in terms of "Throw Away" Committies? Are we not Americans? Its' broken?... Fix it!
Posted By Anonymous Billie Moscow Idaho : 10:37 PM ET
Congress has placed its head in the sand to avoid witnessing the massive corruption that it going on in its ranks. Isn't odd that they spend millions of dollars trying to get elected to a job that only pays them a few cents on each dollar they spend running for office. Are we stupid or do we have our heads in the sand too?
Posted By Anonymous R.J. Sbordone, Laguna Beach, Ca : 10:38 PM ET
There�s an Ethics Committee?

Both sides of the isle are now calling for new and improved rules. I wonder what makes them think that if the guilty parties didn�t play by the old rules, coming up with new rules will fix the problem? Until you remove the corrupt, the corruption will continue regardless of what the rules are.

Although the latest rounds of corruption allegations seem to be falling on the Republicans, I do not believe for one second that the Democrats are innocent. What �We the People� need to do is to vote anti-incumbent. I know that we will lose a few good legislators (very few), but I think the overwhelming result will be a much more effective and less corrupt government. I know this is wishful thinking, but stranger things have happened - I think.
Posted By Anonymous JW, Holt, Michigan : 10:39 PM ET
There are two problems to solve: 1) keeping the committee from just being a whitewash unit as we have seen in the last few years, and 2) to keep it from merely being a forum for harrassment as we had seen before. To address the first, the Ethics Committee should be restructured so that each major party (one holding 5% or more of the seats in the House) has the same number of members on it (say 4), and each and every member has the power to introduce items on the agenda and supoena power. To address the second, their rules should no accusaton, investigation, or interview becomes part of the public record until there is enough evidence of violation to reach a majority or deadlocked vote. Leaking information would be, itself, a violationn.
Posted By Anonymous David Porter, Mountain View, CA : 10:41 PM ET
No, the ethics committee has done a lot of good things in the 80s and the past. I think, rather than abolishing it, it just needs to find a spine, quite frankly.
Posted By Anonymous Sam, Austin, Tx : 10:45 PM ET
Obviously the committee is just for show. We need several, full time special prosecutors whose job it is to put elected officials in jail. Give them a large budget. It will save us all money in the long run and will likely give us a better country and world.
Posted By Anonymous S.R. Raybell, Republic, Washington : 10:45 PM ET
Most of the posts here seem to express cynism, hopelessness, or ideas about how somebody else can fix this problem. The real solution to corruption and ineffective politicians in a democracy is for individual voters to stay informed about the doings of the people they elect and vote out those who are not ethical or effective.

Such a solution would require people to spend time learning what their politicians are doing. Unfortunately most people would rather spend that time doing more important things, like watching American Idol. Thirty-five million people watch American Idol. How many people in this country do you think spent at least 30 minutes last week learning what their senators and representatives have done recently? In reality, most voters don't want to be responsible for holding their leaders accountable, and then they act indignant and betrayed this week when the people they were happy to ignore last week are found to have done something wrong.

You can't have it both ways. If you don't care enough to stay informed about the people you elect, don't whine when they don't always do what you want them to do. I know it shouldn't be that way, but it is, and no amount of whining about how it should be is going to change anything.
Posted By Anonymous Larry, Chapel HIll, NC : 10:46 PM ET
If we abandon Congress will anyone notice?
Posted By Anonymous Jeff Haynes, Arlington, VA : 10:51 PM ET
You're right on the money, Larry of Chapel Hill, NC.

The only problem is most of America is too busy taking in American Idol right now to digest your comments on this blog.
Posted By Anonymous Stacy OC CA : 10:54 PM ET
Ethics is a word thrown around, but no one in government seems to know the meaning. Maybe it's time for the American people to stand up and vote them out of government.
Posted By Anonymous Jean Peoria IL : 10:56 PM ET
we need term limits as after a time all the politicans think they are the elete and can do no wrong as they are above the electorate in knowledge and intelligence...They are not in touch with the real world or main stream in any way...
Posted By Anonymous Ron Pruitt Quincy, Il. : 10:57 PM ET
It seems incredable that it would even be an option, sort of like getting rid of the filibuster, given the current state of things. You would think that elected officials would have to be accountable to someone other than themselves, considering that they serve by, and theoretically for, the will of the people. However, givin the cozy relationships this administration has with corporate interests (i.e. Enron, the drug companies writing the medicare program, energy companies deciding the energy policy, chemical lobbyists working at the EPA, and so on)it should be no surprise to anyone (not to excuse them)that an environment of corruption and hypocrisy has been fostered in our nations capital. I believe we, as a country, have reached a new all-time low, when it is even up for discussion to get rid of the ethics committee!! Shame on them, but more importantly, SHAME ON US as a society for allowing our comfort, greed and self-interest to leed us into this situation in the first place!! There is no better time then the present to start to clean house (no pun intended, house get it?) and restore some credibility to our country.
Posted By Anonymous Joshua Walker, San Francisco CA : 10:57 PM ET
The only thing that wil keep them honest is people like you.They can not do it by themselves. The media needs to be the third estate like it should be not let them manage the news. I so appreciate your reporting.
Posted By Anonymous Ann Oliver Cheney, Wa : 10:59 PM ET
The U.S. should do what they do in Vermont.

Abolish political contributions and/or reduce them down to essentially nothing.

Let people find out about candidates on their own rather than via candidates running ads.

The ads are so obtuse these days that you don't get any sense of who a candidate is anyway.

We need more INFORMATION about politicians, who pays them, how they have voted, and a hell of a lot less ads.

Ban political contributions and fund more disclosure related to who they have relationships with, what businesses they own, and how they have voted in the past.
Posted By Anonymous Kyle, Atlanta, GA : 11:01 PM ET
Ethics seem to apply to everyone but Congress.
Posted By Anonymous David Hannigan, Newport, RI : 11:07 PM ET
Ethics, the Republicans have been sabotaging the Ethics committee for years. Yes, there is a 5/5 split but the Republicans want to keep an unfair advantage by packing the committee with their own in key positions so as to derail any true hearings. This is the epitemy of corruption that they have come to be infamous for. It is rotten and corrupt from the top on down with coverup after coverup. When will the public react and get rid of these corrupt politicians.
Posted By Anonymous Paul, San Diego, Ca : 11:14 PM ET
Proper oversight of Congressional ethics can only be done by an independent, nonpolitical branch of the government. For example the Judicial Branch... er, uh, OK, it can't be done. Just forget about it.
Posted By Anonymous Jason, New York NY : 11:16 PM ET
honestly, nobody will notice if the ethic committee is abolished so they may as well do it. however, that is not the way to go about things, because abolishing the committee is NOT going to solve the problems of corruption in Congress. Ethics NEEDS to be incorporated in our government, but i'm not so sure that it will ever happen again...
Posted By Anonymous susan, north hollywood, ca : 11:20 PM ET
Brilliant idea - moreover, the time and money saved in abolishing the useless committee might equate to some sort of tax break..?
Posted By Anonymous Rita Hagen, New York NY : 11:22 PM ET
Keep the ethics committee and improve upon it.. Start anew if need be, tear it down and rebuild it with a true and honest foundation, a new committee to seek the truth, to seek justice!
Posted By Anonymous Aaron Orlowski Salt Lake City, UT : 11:24 PM ET
ther is no such thing as ethics in Washington so why have a committe there are a joke.
Posted By Anonymous Lee Brydge,Lyndhurst,Va. : 11:24 PM ET
Yes they should get rid of the ethics committee. Since they already made a truce, what would it take to investigate someone or do something productive? Maybe they could disassemble and apply themselves to something that would actually benefit the American people. How about something useful like keeping up the President's baseball field?
Posted By Anonymous Brad, Three Rivers, Michigan : 11:25 PM ET
What does it matter anymore? Lobbiest now write our Laws. Corperations determine the Vote Counts, and now despotism is the only form of Government in the "The Homeland" suitable for us, and what we had once known as "The Republic", is just a diminished echo of the past.
Posted By Anonymous Chris, San Diego, CA : 11:25 PM ET
The question is, why should Congress be in charge of their own ethics investigations? Isn't that like a murderer investigating itself? Why doesn't the checks and balances system cover this? A third party isn't neccessary, but the executive or judicial branch should be in charge of this.
Posted By Anonymous Adam Didech, Long Grove, IL : 11:26 PM ET
Ethics in politics, or Politics in ethics. Depending on the view, those two words can have diverse meaning. However, if politicians would hold themselves above the "below the belt" strategy than the criteria for ethics in politics would be taken more seriously. The future of politics in the United States is going to call on higher educated individuals who have a globalized perspective and knowledge comparative to broarder horizons. In this era of transnational corporations and neoliberalism politicians need to learn to be more pragmatic or, selective in the importance and relevance of the topics at hand.
Posted By Anonymous Devon Cochran, Baton Rouge, LA : 11:26 PM ET
No, certainly do NOT abolish the Ethics Committee;rather figure out a way to give it more teeth. Perhaps this could be done by a random rotation of its members ,rather than having them selected by the parties for their timidity. Perhaps more restraints on lobbyists would make the members of this committee more vocal.
Posted By Anonymous John Samet : 11:31 PM ET
Hmmm, a truce on congressional ethics. On top of that, a self governed Ethics committee. In essence I see this committee as an oxymoron.
Posted By Anonymous Jodie Boseck, Minneapolis MN : 11:32 PM ET
Abolish it? NO

Isn't letting a crime occur just as bad as helping committ it? We need to bring the 10 committee members up on Federal charges.
Posted By Anonymous Wade Myers, Knoxville, TN : 11:33 PM ET
There should be an independent comitee made up of non politicians to oversee all ethics investigations. The government is always saying that the private sector does it better than the government so let it be from outside of the government.
Posted By Anonymous Jason,Wichita Falls,Texas : 11:34 PM ET
The Ethics Committee should be made up of Citizens and their reports should go to the Justice Department and all press outlets.

The politians cannot police themselves.

Legislation should be introduced by the Ethics Committee and must be passed by Congress, that if an elected offical of any capacity and for any office in the United States is found guilty of a crime, then they have committed this crime as a elected official and a citizen and they should be subject to double the penalty for the crime and lose any governmental retirement or pension rights from holding that or any other elected office.

Those who are elected to Congress can hold that or any other office no more than 7 years.

It is time to stop politians from taking money from taxpayers and lining their and others pockets.
Posted By Anonymous Woodie D. Goodspeed San Antonio, Texas : 11:34 PM ET
Using the terms "ethics" and "government" in the same sentence is ridiculous. No one has noticed that those officials who lied about WMDs are STILL there governing us for a SECOND TERM! If WE don't care about their "ethics", why should THEY? It's time WE took back OUR government and ENDED their LIES!
Posted By Anonymous Ted Cherochak, Jessup, PA : 11:39 PM ET
The Ethics Committee, as is, doesn't do anything. But abolition isn't the answer either. Instead, have an independant committee.

Also, the current rules say that only members of Congress can refer other members of Congress to the Committee. What sense does that make? There are many, many, many ethical violations that should be taken up by an Ethics Committee, but because of this rule, none of it can even see the light of day. If this truely is a government of the people, by the people and for the people, the populace should be able to determine what happens. Otherwise, we'll just have more bribery, more K Street Projects....more business as usual.
Posted By Anonymous Steven in Santa Clara, CA : 11:40 PM ET
I admit, I am one of half of the US population that thinks congress is corrupt in one form or another.

The Committee on Standards of Official Conduct has been handcuffed and silenced for years, and now we are talking about its silent death. No one would notice if it went away, but the result would be felt long term: The more that people that believe that Congress is corrupt, the less faith they have in the system which would make more people believe it was corrupt, and so on (downward spiral).

Who really cares if it is used for political attacks on each party? Aren't people smart enough to determine that? IF the committee were actually doing something, then maybe, just maybe, it would be less than 50% of the US population believing that Congress is corrupt.

Hey, those 10 members of the committee are collecting a paycheck for their "service". We should make them actually DO something for that paycheck (I know my employer does!).
Posted By Anonymous Rich, Southern NJ : 11:40 PM ET
Ethics is a dead issue in Congress these days. The very people we trusted to lead us are stacking the deck for themselves and their political bedfellows. Question is, when will we as a people stand and do something about it. What ever happen to "The Power of the People" can change anything if we work together for a common good..."US"
Posted By Anonymous Lynn Douglas, Atlanta GA : 11:41 PM ET
If it isn't being used then shut it down. There is no lack of problems Congress can be spending their time on. However I believe you miss an opportunity. Why not look at the usefulness of the federal government it�s self. We have 50 duplicates of the US government and 50 copies of anything are too many. If we are going to start shutting down and stream lining like the corporations have had to do then lets shut down all but the Fed, Military and anything doing with foreign affairs. We don't need a Supreme Court that is being stacked in favor of one view or another we have 50 Supreme courts. We have highway commissions and everything in between. The time for large central governments and their cost are over. Lets cut the lobbyist AND the "protect your own crowd� out and then stream line the entire country to 5 states. Let�s just get serious and put everyone�s ethics and loyalties on trial. Do you want a future or are you so selfish as to only want to save your job. This is the question that should be asked and answered by Congress.
Posted By Anonymous Raymond Brusstar, San Jose Calif : 11:41 PM ET
Yes it is hypocritical to have an Ethics Office, when it is clear no one in Congress has even a single
ethic. I say abolish the Office
Posted By Anonymous Chaz Nordhaus, Oshkosh, Wi : 11:45 PM ET
It is obvious to me that Congress and other government agencies are incapable of regulating themselves. I think non-partisan citizen groups with supeona power should be appointed to oversee ethics in government.
Posted By Anonymous Martin Pratt, Mission, TX : 11:45 PM ET
There has to be some mechanism for exposing corruption in the Congress. I think that every dollar a lobbyist gives to a congressman means a dollar less influence that a citizen has. But how do you make it an effective body is it is populated by some of the people it is supposed to oversee. Perhaps there should be a special prosecutor subordinate to the Supreme Court.
Posted By Anonymous Mike, Gig Harbor, Washington : 11:48 PM ET
Take away the money and you take away the corruption and attraction to corrupt(able) politicians. Outlaw lobbyists. Period. And PAC's. Lobbyists are bottomdwelling denizens of backroom dealmaking and are influence peddlers without conscience or accountability. Get rid of them. The only ones who would object to this are the ones who would be deprived of the opportunity to buy-off a politician, or the receipient of the buy-off. We can afford to lose both.
Posted By Anonymous John Drexler, Arkansas : 11:52 PM ET
yes...we should keep the committee...and as friend told me the other day when we were talking about this...maybe teach it in school as a required class.
Posted By Anonymous dick engstrom, gold bar, wa : 11:56 PM ET
Congress has proven that it can not enforce its own rules, it is time for a radical new approach.

The ethics committee should be run by retired judges