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Transcripts from video deposition of Lewinsky, Jordan, and BlumenthalJump to the start of individual depositions: Lewinsky, Jordan, Blumenthal [Previous Page][Page S1230][Next Page]
best way to explain how I feel what happened was, you know, no one asked or encouraged me to lie, but no one discouraged me, either." Q. Okay. That--that statement, is that consistent in your view with what you've testified to today? A. Yes. Q. Okay. Look at page 234, which is right below there. A. Okay. [Perusing document.] Q. Beginning with the--your answer on line 4, and read down, if you could, to line 14--4 through 14. A. "Yes and no. I mean, I think I also said that Monday that it wasn't as if the President called me and said, You know, Monica, you're on the witness list. This is going to be really hard for us. We're going to have to tell the truth and be humiliated in front of the entire world about what we've done, which I would have fought him on, probably. That was different. And by him not calling me and saying that, you know, I knew what that meant. So I, I don't see any disconnect between paragraph 10 and paragraph 4 on the page. Does that answer your question?" Q. Okay. Now, has that--has your testimony today been consistent with that provision? A. I--I think so. Q. Okay. A. I've intended for my testimony to be consistent with my grand jury testimony. Q. Okay. And one final read just below that, line 16 through 24. A. "Did you understand all along that he would deny the relationship also?" "Mm-hmm, yes." Q. And 19 through 24--the rest of that. A. Oh, sorry. "And when you say you understood what it meant when he didn't say, Oh, you know you must tell the truth, what did you understand that to mean?" "That, that, as we had on every other occasion and in every other instance of this relationship, we would deny it." MR. BRYANT: Okay. Could we have just--go off the record here a minute? SENATOR DeWINE: Sure. Let's go off the record at this point. THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We're going off the record at 1459 hours. [Recess.] THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We're going back on the record at 1504 hours. SENATOR DeWINE: Manager Bryant, you may proceed. MR. BRYANT: Thank you, Senator. BY MR. BRYANT: Q. Ms. Lewinsky, I have just a few more questions here. With regard to the false affidavit, you do admit that you filed an untruthful affidavit with the court in the Jones case; is that correct? A. I think I--I--yes--I mean, it was incomplete and misleading, and-- Q. Okay. With regard to the cover stories, on December the 6th, you and the President went over cover stories, and in the same conversation he encouraged you to file an affidavit in the Jones case; is that correct? A. No. MS. SELIGMAN: I think that misstates the record. BY MR. BRYANT: Q. All right. On December the 17th. Let's try December 17; all right? A. Okay. Q. You and the President went over cover stories--that's the telephone conversation-- A. Okay--I'm sorry--can you repeat the question? Q. Okay. On December 17th, you and the President went over cover stories in a telephone conversation. A. Correct. Q. And in that same telephone conversation, he encouraged you to file an affidavit in the Jones case? A. He suggested I could file an affidavit. Q. Okay. With regard to the job, between your meeting with Mr. Jordan in early November and December the 5th when you met with Mr. Jordan again, you did not feel that Mr. Jordan was doing much to help you get a job; is that correct? MS. SELIGMAN: Objection. Misstates the record. BY MR. BRYANT: Q. Okay. You can answer that. A. It-- Q. Let me repeat it. Between your meeting with Mr. Jordan in early November and December the 5th when you met with Mr. Jordan again, you did not feel that Mr. Jordan was doing much to help you get a job; is that correct? MS. SELIGMAN: Same objection. THE WITNESS: Do you mean when I met with him again on December 11th? I don't-- MR. BRYANT: The-- THE WITNESS: --I didn't meet with Mr. Jordan on December 5th. I'm sorry-- MR. BRYANT: Okay. THE WITNESS: --am I misunderstanding something? MR. BRYANT: We're getting our numbers wrong here. THE WITNESS: Okay. BY MR. BRYANT: Q. Between your meeting with Mr. Jordan in early November and December the 11th when you met with Mr. Jordan again, you did not feel that Mr. Jordan was doing much to help you get a job; is that correct? A. I hadn't seen any progress. Q. Okay. After you met with Mr. Jordan in early December, you began to interview in New York and were much more active in your job search; correct? A. Yes. Q. In early January, you received a job offer from Revlon with the help of Vernon Jordan; is that correct? A. Yes. Q. Okay. With regard to gifts, regarding the gifts that were subpoenaed in the Jones case, you are certain that Ms. Currie called you and that she understood you had something to give her; is that correct? A. That's my recollection. Q. You never told Ms. Currie to come pick up the gifts or that Michael Isikoff had called about them; is that correct? A. I don't recall that. Q. Regarding stalking, you never stalked the President; is that correct? A. I--I don't believe so. Q. Okay. You and the President had an emotional relationship as well as a physical one; is that right? A. That's how I'd characterize it. Q. Okay. He never rebuffed you? A. I--I think that gets into some of the intimate details of--no, then, that's not true. There were occasions when he did. Q. Uh-huh. Okay. But he never rebuffed you initially on that first day, November the 15th, 1995? A. No, sir. Law Offices of Plato Cacheris, Washington, DC, February 2, 1999. Re February 1, 1999, Monica S. Lewinsky deposition transcript. Dear Ms. Jardim and Mr. Bitsko: Upon our review of the videotape and transcript of Monica S. Lewinsky's deposition transcript, we have noted the following errors or omissions:
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19..... 14 The oath and affirmation are not transcribed.
24..... 9 "second . . ." should replace "2d"
44..... 6 Comments by counsel are not transcribed.
61..... 11-13 Delete quotation marks. These are not direct quotes
in this instance.
62..... 23 "town" should replace "down"
63..... 17 "called" should replace "found"
63..... 23 "after Thanksgiving" should follow "back."
63..... 24 Insert following line 23:
A: Yes I did.
Q: What did he tell you then?
65..... 21 "tchotchke" should replace "chochki"
65..... 24 "on" should replace "home"
66..... 20 The line should read:
"see if I could see the President. I apologize,"
not
"see if I could see the President and apologize."
75..... 1 "needed" should replace "need"
90..... 5 "the" should replace "some"
116.... 16 "said" should precede "list"
128.... 9 "that's" should replace "of"
154.... 5 Delete quotation marks.
156.... 6 "Seidman" should replace "Sideman"
161.... 15 "Fallon" should replace "Phalen"
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Provided these changes are made, we will waive signature on behalf of Ms. Lewinsky. We understand from Senate Legal Counsel that copies of this letter will be made available to the parties and Senate. Thank you for your assistance.
Sincerely,
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