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Transcripts from video deposition of Lewinsky, Jordan, and BlumenthalJump to the start of individual depositions: Lewinsky, Jordan, Blumenthal [Previous Page][Page S1218][Next Page]
A. Yes. Q. And what did he suggest? A. He said the names of the--he looked at the list of public relations firms and I think sort of said, "oh, I've heard of them, I haven't heard of these people, have you heard of so and so," that I hadn't heard of. Q. Your meeting lasted about 20 minutes? A. If that's what I've testified to, then I accept that. Q. It is, or close to it. I know this is an approximation, but thereabouts. You weren't there all day. A. I had--well, I don't--I don't remember how long it was right now. I know I've testified to that. So if I said 20 minutes, then-- Q. Did you have a conversation with the President on--about a week later on November the 12th and by telephone? A. Yes. Q. And did you indicate there you had spoken with Mr. Jordan about a job? A. Yes. Q. After you met with Mr. Jordan, did you--did you have an impression that you would get, uh--get a job, get favorable results in your job search? A. Yes. Q. Did anything favorable happen to--in your job search from that November the 5th, 1997, meeting until Thanksgiving? A. No, but I believe Mr. Jordan was out of town for a week or two. Q. During the weeks after this November the 5th interview, did you try to contact Mr. Jordan? A. Yes. Q. How? A. First, I sent him a thank-you note for the initial meeting, and I believe I placed some phone calls right before Thanksgiving--maybe a phone call. I don't remember if it was more than one. Q. What--what happened with respect to the job search, uh, through there, through Thanksgiving? Was there anything? I mean, I know he--you said he was out of down, but did anything, to your knowledge, occur? Could you see any results up to Thanksgiving? A. From my meeting with Mr. Jordan? Q. Yes. A. No. Q. Did you contact Betty Currie after you received no response from Mr. Jordan? A. Yes. Q. And did she page you? I think you were in Los Angeles at the time. A. Correct. Q. Okay. What--what did she tell you as a result of that telephone call? A. She asked me to place a call to Mr. Jordan, which I did. Q. And this would have been, again, around November the 26th, shortly--well, around Thanksgiving? A. It was before Thanksgiving. Q. And I assume you found Mr. Jordan. A. Yes. Q. And what did he tell you? A. That he was working on it. Q. Did he tell you to call him back? A. Yes. Q. Did you indeed call him back A. I didn't actually get ahold of him; he was out-of-town that day. I think it was December 5th. Q. Did you try to meet with the President during this time? A. Yes. Q. How did you do that? A. I was a pest. I sent a note to Ms. Currie and asked her to pass it along to the President, requesting that I meet with him. Q. Were you successful in having a meeting as a result of those efforts? A. I don't know if it was a result of those efforts, but yes, I ended up having a meeting with the President. Q. And when would that have been; what day? A. On the 6th of December 1997. Q. Again you are going through Betty Currie; is that, again, the standard procedure at that time? A. Yes. Q. Did you go--I think you spoke also perhaps to Betty Currie on December the 5th, the day before the meeting-- A. Yes. Q. --and this was something about attending the President's speech. Was that when that occurred--or the radio address, or something? Does that ring any bells? A. No. Q. Did--you did attend the Christmas party that day-- A. Yes. Q. --and the White House. And you saw the President? A. Yes. Q. Just socially, speak to him, and that's it? A. Yes. Q. Picture, handshaking, and that? A. [Nodding head.] Q. Okay. That's a yes? A. Yes. Sorry. Q. Prior to December 6th, 1997, had you purchased a Christmas gift for the President? A. Yes. Q. Which was? A. An antique standing cigar holder. Q. And had you purchased any other additional gifts for him? A. Yes. Q. And what were those? A. Uh, a Starbucks mug that said "Santa Monica"; a necktie that I got in London; a little box--I call it a "chochki"--from, uh--and an antique book on Theodore Roosevelt. Q. Was it your intention to, to carry those Christmas presents to the President home that Saturday, December the 6th? A. If I were to have a meeting with him, yes. Q. Did you attempt to have a meeting? A. Yes. Q. Did you go through Betty Currie? A. Yes. I sent her the letter to, to give to the President. Q. And when you went to the White House that day, you also attempted to, to have the meeting through calling Betty Currie and telephoning her; I believe you had to go to-- A. Which day? I'm sorry. Q. On the 6th. A. No. Q. The Saturday. A. [No response.] Q. No? A. I--I attempted to give the presents to Betty, but I didn't call and attempt to have a meeting there--well, I guess I called in the morning, so that's not true--I'm sorry. Yes, I called Ms. Currie in the morning trying to see if I could see the President and apologize. Q. And--were you--did you see the President, then, on the 6th? A. Yes, I did. Q. Tell us about that meeting--that was a long--was that, uh--did you have a telephone conversation with him that day also? A. Yes. Q. And that was the long telephone conversation? A. It--it was. Q. Okay. I think there has been some indication it may have been 56 minutes, something approximating an hour-long conversation; does that sound right? A. Right. That would--that might include some conversation time with Ms. Currie as well. Q. Okay. Was he interrupted by Ms. Currie--could you tell-- did he have to take a break from the telephone call to talk to Ms. Currie, or do you recall any, any-- A. I don't recall that. Q. --do you recall any breaks to talk to anybody else? A. I don't recall that. Doesn't mean it didn't happen; I just don't remember it. Q. What else did you--did you arrange in that telephone conversation, or did he invite you in that telephone conversation to come to the White House that day? A. Yes, he did. Q. What happened during, during that conversation in terms of--I understand that it was again an emotional day, some sort of a word fight; is that right? A. Yes. Q. Could you tell me--he was, uh--again, to perhaps save some time--he was angry about an earlier incident, and, uh, he felt like you were intruding on his lawyer time? A. Uh, he was upset that I hadn't accepted that he just couldn't see me that day. Q. And what was your response to that? A. Probably not positive. Uh, that's why it was a fight. Q. Again, I want to be careful that I don't put words in your mouth, but you were dealing with this relationship from an emotional standpoint of wanting to spend time with him-- A. Yes. Q. --not as President, but as a man? A. Correct. Q. And this was at a point when you didn't feel like you were spending enough time with him? A. Correct. Q. And he obviously felt he had to do other things, too, talk to lawyers and do those kinds of things--be the President--is that right? A. Yes. Q. Okay. Now, was some of this discussion that we term "the fight," was that over the telephone? A. Yes. It was all over the telephone. Q. So by the time you arrived and had the face-to-face meeting with him, that was over? A. Correct. Q. Was that during the time that you exchanged--exchanged some of the Christmas presents with him? A. In--in the meeting? Q. Yes. A. Yes. I gave him my Christmas presents. Q. Did you discuss the job search with him also at that time? A. I believe I mentioned it. Q. Did you tell him that, uh, your job search with Mr. Jordan was not going well? A. I don't know if I used those words. I don't, I don't remember exactly-- Q. If your grand jury testimony said yes--I mean, words to that effect--that would--you could have used those words if they're in your grand jury-- A. If my grand jury testimony says that--if that's what I said in my grand jury testimony, then I accept that. Q. I'm not trying to--I'm not trying to trick you. A. Okay. Q. Did he make any comment to you about what he might do to aid in your job search at that time, if you recall? A. I think he--I think he said, oh, let me see about it, let me see what I can do--his usual. Q. Did, uh, did the President say anything to you at that time about your name appearing on a witness list in the Paula Jones case? A. No. Q. Did you later learn that your name had appeared on such a list? A. Yes. Q. And did you later learn that that witness list had been faxed to the White House-- [[Page S1218]]
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