Transcripts from video deposition of Lewinsky, Jordan, and Blumenthal
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[Congressional Record: February 4, 1999 (Senate)]
In the Senate of the United States Sitting for the Trial of the Impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton, President of the United States
Excerpts of video deposition of monica s. lewinsky (Monday, February 1, 1999, Washington, D.C.)
SENATOR DeWINE: If not, I will now swear the witness. Ms. Lewinsky, will you raise your right hand, please? Whereupon, MONICA S. LEWINSKY was called as a witness and, after having been first duly sworn by Senator DeWine, was examined and testified as follows:
SENATOR DeWINE: The House Managers may now begin your questioning.
MR. BRYANT: Thank you, Senator. Good morning to all present.
Examination by house managers
BY MR. BRYANT:
Q. Ms. Lewinsky, welcome back to Washington, and wanted to just gather a few of our friends here to have this deposition now. We do have quite a number of people present, but we--in spite of the numbers, we do want you to feel as comfortable as possible because I think we--everyone present today has an interest in getting to the truth of this matter, and so as best as you can, we would appreciate your answers in a--in a truthful and a fashion that you can recall. I know it's been a long time since some of these events have occurred. But for the record, would you state your name once again, your full name?
A. Yes. Monica Samille Lewinsky.
Q. And you're a--are you a resident of California?
A. I'm--I'm not sure exactly where I'm a resident now, but I--that's where I'm living right now.
Q. Okay. You--did you grow up there in California?
Q. I'm not going to go into all that, but I thought just a little bit of background here. You went to college where?
A. Lewis and Clark, in Portland, Oregon.
Q. And you majored in--majored in?
Q. Tell me about your work history, briefly, from the time you left college until, let's say, you started as an intern at the White House.
A. Uh, I wasn't working from the time I--
Q. Okay. Did you--
A. I graduated college in May of '95.
Q. Did you work part time there in--in Oregon with a--with a District Attorney--
Q. --in his office somewhere?
A. During--I had an internship or a practicum when I was in school. I had two practicums, and one was at the public defender's office and the other was at the Southeast Mental Health Network.
Q. And those were in Portland?
Q. Okay. What--you received a bachelor of science in psychology?
Q. Okay. As a part of your duties at the Southeast Health Network, what did you--what did you do in terms of working? Did you have direct contact with people there, patients?
A. Yes, I did. Um, they referred to them as clients there and I worked in what was called the Phoenix Club, which was a socialization area for the clients to--really to just hang out and, um, sort of work on their social skills. So I--
Q. Okay. After your work there, you obviously had occasion to come to work at the White House. How did--how did you come to decide you wanted to come to Washington, and in particular work at the White House?
A. There were a few different factors. My mom's side of the family had moved to Washington during my senior year of college and I wanted--I wasn't ready to go to graduate school yet. So I wanted to get out of Portland, and a friend of our family's had a grandson who had had an internship at the White House and had thought it might be something I'd enjoy doing.
Q. Had you ever worked around--in politics and campaigns or been very active?
Q. You had to go through the normal application process of submitting a written application, references, and so forth to--to the White House?
Q. Did you do that while you were still in Oregon, or were you already in D.C.?
A. No. The application process was while I was a senior in college in Oregon.
Q. Had you ever been to Washington before?
Q. Obviously, you were accepted, and you started work when?
A. July 10th, 1995.
Q. Where--where were you assigned?
A. The Chief--
Q. Physically, where were you located?
A. Oh, physically?
A. Room 93 of the Old Executive Office Building.
Q. Were you designated in any particular manner in terms of--were all interns the same, I guess would be my question?
A. Yes and no. We were all interns, but there were a select group of interns who had blue passes who worked in the White House proper, and most of us worked in the Old Executive Office Building with a pink intern pass.
Q. Now, can you explain to me the significance of a pink pass versus a blue pass?
Q. Okay. Is it--is it access?
Q. To what?
A. A blue pass gives you access to anywhere in the White House and a pink intern pass gives you access to the Old Executive Office Building.
Q. Did interns have blue passes?
A. Yes, some.
Q. Some did, and some had pink passes?
Q. And you had the pink?
Q. How long was your internship?
A. It was from July 'til the end of August, and then I stayed on for a little while until the 2nd.
Q. Are most interns for the summertime--you do part of the summer or the entire summer?
A. I believe there are interns all year-round at the White House.
Q. Now, you as an intern, you are unpaid.
Q. And tell--tell me how you came to, uh, through your decisionmaking process, to seek a paid position and stay in Washington.
A. Uh, there were several factors. One is I came to enjoy being at the White House, and I found it to be interesting. I was studying to take the GREs, the entrance exam for graduate school, and needed to get a job. So I--since I had enjoyed my internship, my supervisor at the time, Tracy Beckett, helped me try and secure a position.
Q. Now, you mentioned the pink pass that you had. So you were able to--I don't want to presume--you were able to get into the White House on occasion even with a pink pass?
A. The--do you mean the White House proper, or--
Q. Yes, the White House--
A. --the complex?
Q. Yes. Let me be clear. When I--I tend to say "White House"--I mean the actual building itself. And I know perhaps you think of the whole complex in terms of the whole--
A. I'm sorry. Just to be clear--
A. --do you mean the West Wing and the residence and--
A. --the East Wing when you say the White House?
Q. Right. The White House where the President lives, and works, I guess, right.
A. I'm sorry. Can you repeat the question?
Q. Yes, yes. I mean that White House. As an intern, you had a pink pass that did allow you to have access to that White House where the President was on occasion?
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