Bush, McCain lock horns in GOP debate
January 6, 2000
Web posted at: 10:19 p.m. EST (0319 GMT)
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DURHAM, New Hampshire (CNN) -- Texas Gov. George W.
Bush and Arizona Sen. John McCain met one another
head-on during Thursday night's GOP presidential
debate in New Hampshire.
Joined onstage by the other four Republican candidates
at the University of New Hampshire's Johnson Theater
in Durham, the two men dominated the debate, locking
horns on tax cuts and Social Security.
With the Granite State's primary only a few weeks away
and McCain running even with Bush in New Hampshire
polls, both men jockeyed for position while candidates
Steve Forbes, Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch, Alan Keyes and
Gary Bauer appeared to fade in the background,
emerging only to break the tension with bits of humor.
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The prime-time debate, the second in a series between
now and New Hampshire's February 1 primary, followed
on the heels of Wednesday night's contentious debate
between Democrats Al Gore and Bill Bradley. Sponsored
by MSNBC, the debate was moderated by NBC's Tim
Russert.
Bush came across as a stronger candidate than in
previous matchups, making a pledge not only not to
raise taxes but to cut them even in the face of a
recession.
"I have laid out a plan that not only encourages
economic growth, I have laid out a plan that is more
fair than the current code because it knocks down the
toll both to the middle class," he said.
"Is this 'no new taxes, so help me God?' " asked John
Mephisto of the Manchester Union leader, referring to
former President George Bush's pledge not to impose
new taxes if he won re-election.
"This is not only 'no new taxes,' this is 'a tax cut,
so help me God,' " Bush replied.
McCain said his tax plan seeks to "take the surplus
and put it into Social Security and pay down the debt.
We ought to pay down the debt, and we also ought to
make Social Security solvent."
In a heated response, Bush said, "Here's my problem
with the kind of Washington mindset with this. It is a
huge leap of faith to assume that Congress will not
spend the money. I think Congress will spend the money
and so therefore to make sure they don't, let's pass
it back to the taxpayers."
"No one is suggesting we pass the entire surplus back
to the taxpayers," Bush said. The Texas governor said
his plan doesn't call for that.
"Yes, it does," McCain retorted.
"No, it doesn't," Bush insisted.
"We've gotten a lot more nasty," Hatch chimed in to
audience laughter.
"We haven't gotten nasty at all," Keyes said.
Forbes, in one of his only pointed statements of the
evening, took a shot at both Bush's and McCain's tax
proposals. "You cannot be a moderate on the tax
issue," Forbes said.
He emphasized that he was the only true Reagan
Republican: "I'm the one Republican that talks like Reagan on the
tax issue. ... That's why I think I'm going to win at
the end of the day."
McCain, chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee, came
under some fire for the December 10 letter the senator
wrote to the FCC on behalf of Paxson Communications, a
company that owns 73 TV stations.
The company has provided McCain with the use of a
private jet -- a legal practice under FEC rules -- but
also may have coordinated up to $20,000 in campaign
contributions for the senator.
When asked whether his actions seemed hypocritical,
given that he is such an ardent proponent of campaign
finance reform, McCain said, "All this money washing
around Washington and all of these contributions taint
all of us."
Emphasizing that it is his job as Senate Commerce
Committee chairman to "make the bureaucrats work for
the people," McCain added: "We are all under a cloud
of suspicion." He vowed to continue working for true
campaign finance reform.
Bush appeared to give McCain a pass on the FCC issue
but nailed him on campaign finance reform.
"Is he walking the walk? Yes, I think he is," Bush
said. "My objection is that he's supporting campaign
finance reform that's going to unilaterally disarm the
Republican Party."
"I trust your judgment," Bush said to McCain, "but I
don't trust the plan you are outlining. It is bad for
campaigns, and it is bad for the conservative cause."
As for social issues, the candidates discussed the
separation of church and state, gays in the military
and abortion.
Thursday night, all the GOP hopefuls vowed to
either keep the current policy on gays in the military
in place, or to outright ban their participation.
"I'm a don't ask, don't tell man," Bush said. And
McCain asserted that he would "not change a policy that is working."
As promised, Bauer continuously attacked Bush on his
no-litmus test pledge for judicial appointees and
stuck to his anti-abortion, social conservative
agenda.
The Associated Press contributed to this report, which was written by Amy Paulson.
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